Why Is Avril Lavigne So Damn Popular?
 

Really? What's the deal? She's got a few good songs, but the majority are utter crap. Now all I see is stupid teenage girls running around wearing ties and trying to dress like her.:rolleyes:

Discuss. =\

teenage. girls. buying power.

Actually, it makes me a little happy cause she keeps her breasts in her shirt, and wears pants that fit.
Not that I mind looking at half-naked pop stars, but they do tend to be role models for young girls, and well, thats not right.

So maybe, in that context, not so bad a thing.

Ya, i agree with gov. Shes not as "fake" as all the other teen popstarts. Not to mention shes canadian :D

Girls see that guys think she's hot, so they emulate her to attract guys. Easy as pie.

And in case you didn't get the memo, you can apparently be "punk" nowadays without actually <i>listening</i> to punk music. It's so neat.

I'm hoping the Tatu look catches on myself.

She is a poser. She IS as fake as the other teen popstarts she is just not the cliche fake. At any rate I don't find her any more anoying then Britney Spears but I still rather not listen to her.

I don't think I've ever heard a single one of her songs...whatever.

don't know, don't care.... but i do find these infamous pics of her very amusing

http://www.deansplanet.com/avril_lav..._makeup_01.jpghttp://www.deansplanet.com/avril_lav..._makeup_02.jpghttp://www.deansplanet.com/avril_lav..._makeup_03.jpghttp://www.deansplanet.com/avril_lav..._makeup_04.jpg

lol, w3rd. She looks like a rat without her 4lbs of make-up >_<

I will give Avril all the money in my bank account if she goes to Africa and hides out there for the rest of her life. This means no more music Avril.

I don't think she'd do it for $8 ;););)

bleh made me laugh. thanks.

Oh... my .... god ... I could have gone the rest of my life without seeing that. I had heard she was dog ugly without makeup but didn't want to ruin by actully seeing any pictures

Never heard of her. I must be getting old.

what i find interesting is that when avril was asked to announce grammy nominees, she pronounced david bowie's name wrong, and later confessed that she didn't even know who he was. arggh. stupid teen pop people.

Its just a new way of advertising the music, its a new 'package' that they put her in to make her look appealing.

I personally think her music isn't all that bad. Her publicists suck though. They're marketing her as an image rather than a musician. I think they dropped all the BS, she could possibly have staying power. She has a good voice, but doesn' t utilize it good enough. She writes good songs that stick in your head. But like many teen pop idols, she probably won't last more than 4 years max and that's a shame.

mediocre music but I kinda like the sass a bad girl from CANADA for gods sake whats not to at least amuse you!

Best Musicians From Canada: Tegan and Sara. Hands down.

All I know is, she once tried to do a cover of Chop Suey (the system of a down song).

the result was perhaps the most painful 90 seconds of my life.

look for it on kazaa, if you have the balls. you won't be the same afterwards. *cringe*.

Whoa, that is... bad. I'm going to jump out the window now.

Avril Lavigne... wow.
A friend of mine supposedly got her AIM screen name.

Funniest. Conversation. EVAR.

Her music is horrendous, although I must say I'd rather have my (hypothetical) daughter turn out like her than like Christina Aguilera...

there is one thing about avril that does bother me
i knew some chics that dressed like that way before her
and then she came around and they were called avril wanna bes so they kinda had to drop the style
and well they looked alot better wearing that stuff
so in one way she sorta ruined a fashion

I'd still do her like there was no tomorrow.

I'm a Sk8trBoy

I think she aint bad little like Alanis morissete bad spelling something like that

Wow, that's really...REALLY sad.

I've got to say though, as someone else said, if I had to choose between my (non-existant) daughter ending up like her or Christina Aguilera, it would be her hands-down. So, let's all just be happy there's something different out there other than Britney and Christina.

I'm not a big fan but at least she has some talent in the singing catagory which says lots more for her than Britney.Give it time though and the cycle will change and we may be bombarded with worse.Like Vanessa Carlton or something.

It's Sk8er Boi. You have to retard yourself down a little more if you want to get with Avril.

I like a couple of her songs ...and hey she has talent ...and she doesn't have to get practically naked for people to buy her album.

whats that i hear in the distance? is that Macey Gray calling???

Its Sk8r bo1 you just got to retard yourself a little more killeryoda....... and you call yourselves Avril Lasagne fans bleh.

she has a really great voice, but thats about it. I cant stand posers. She really cant play guitar and just relies on the guitarist to play it all. theres more to being punk than dressing like one and skating.

Heheh. You guys are funny. :)

Hey at least she co-wrote all of the songs off her album. That's more than most pop teen artists can say.

I think some of her songs are good like "Nobody's Fool" and "Things I'll Never Say." However, that being said, I've seen her perform "Complicated" live on some dumb MTV thing and she SUCKS live.

I think the appeal lies in her catchy tunes and of course, her "punk" image. While being a punk used to be ill-favored in the eyes of society, now it is widely accepted because of artists like her that soften the image's rough edges. But yeah, I think she's a poser. lol.

There will always be someone worse.

Packaging a less than talented person is NOTHING new.

You have done a wonderful job of listing some current guilty parties...but it's been done.

John Travolta had a hit song.
So did Starsky...or was it Hutch?
Kristy McNichol recorded an album.

Am I showing my age?

It's been done and it will be done again...and again....and again.

Girls are nothing without makeup, what do you expect?

And Britney Spears didn't know who Yoko Ono was..... OK, BAD EXAMPLE because they're are the same scale. But hey, both are not even past the age of 23 + there teens for Christ's sake. You can't judge their intelligence yet.

Wanted to add: Not ALL of her songs are bad on her debut 'Let Go' album. I prefer: Complicated, I'm With You, Losing Grip, and Too Much To Ask - as my top choices. Its not many albums that I listen to every single song. When I dl a song (LIKE YOU DON'T), I only get singles. Great new example being "Can't Stop" by RHCPeppers. But, with 'Let Go' I listen to just about all of the songs.

id still hit it. wait...how old is she again?

What do you mean 'new'?

People have been doing this for thousands of years.

In short, Avril Lavigne sells because:

1. She's quite attractive.

2. She has a very well-paid team of producers and hitmakers. They may say she writes her own songs, and I don't doubt that she does, but... she doesn't know shit about recording/mastering/etc. Her bosses have a lot of leeway as far as that's concerned.

3. She's a very carefully calculated product. After all the boybands and shit kinda fizzled out, record companies realized that the little girls who had bought all those CD's were now a few years older; they wanted something with a guise of 'edginess'.

4. The little girl can, in fact, sing. And her songs aren't the worst thing ever...

All this is IMHO, of course.

EDIT: I just thought of this.

I don't think I've ever once seen her claim to be punk. It's probably just more of the clever marketing, but... try not to dislike someone because they don't live up to the labels that you made for them.

-D.S.

You, sir, are correct. She is only punk because others label her as punk, she even say it herself.

I consider her genre to be more 'guitar driven' pop. I would like to say rock.... but I can't.

Teen girls are adopting her attitude.
Trying to be a funny bitch when they actually are annoying.

I was only mildly annoyed when I first heard her music. Another pop songstress that could easily be ignored.

I got pissed when she came out talking about punk and saying she didn't need to listen to anyone who came before her.

I wanted to drop her in a vat of broken glass when she mispronounced the name of one of the most influential voices in rock, David Bowie.

Hey, if you care enough about music that you make it your career, would you mind learning something about it before getting packaged up and sent out into the world? Tie wearing freak.

How did she pronounce the amazing Bowie's name? I'll kill her!!!

She didn't write any of her songs either, they were ripped apart and co-written by people she's never met before.

ok, so it's not too terrible... until you have to ride in a car with a 9 year old girl who can't sing. just recite the lyrics to lithium by nirvana and you'll be fine

I also forgot to mention that I do hate her for making that whole tie-wearing thing "the new cool."

Silly as it may sound, I was doing that years before she started. Damn it.

BTW, how many 17 year old girls do you know that know who Bowie is? I mean really know, not just having heard his name.

She's not playing country music, or classical. Whatever it is she's screaching is, in some respects, rock and roll. Therefore, if you're going to go out into the world to play rock and roll, I expect you to at least know the names of those who rocked hard before you.

And I'm not saying she needs to memorize his whole catalog either. Basic information about someone as influential as David Bowie is fine:

His beginnings as Ziggy Stardust

The titles to a few of his songs.

And how to pronounce HIS FREAKIN' NAME.

i dunno, i read this and thought

"Lets get, to the point
Lets ROOOOOOLLL another joint
No you don't know how it feels
No you don't know how it feels
to be FREEEEE"

I dunno....she is popular because sex crazed guys follow the sexy girls, who for some reason, think she can show them fashion pointers?

ROFLMAO! Oh my god. That had to be the funniest thing I read all day.

As for Avril.. Well, I don't hate her, but I don't really vibe with her music, because her voice isn't the easiest for me to personally deal with.

About Christina Aguilera.. I would have to say she is less like Spear Britney now than she was when she first came out. And it's okay if everyone disagrees with me, but the girl -can- sing. I personally don't give a damn about her image and what she looks like. She's got a good set of pipes.

What the fuck is wrong with Avril Lavigne?
I'd be slammin and jammin her skinny ass and flooding the innermost depths of her fuckhold with hot seed.
I like fucking skinny hussies like that. You could fuck her for 6 hours flat out.

She seems like a cute girl to have a picnic with. A little young for me, tho.

I don't mind some of her songs, She is a cutie though & I would hit it:D

It seems that every so often the music industry chews up some teenage blonde-haired bimbo and spits her out at us in an attempt to sell us on looks. In the past several years we’ve been “graced” with the wonderful talents of Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Mandy Moore, Jessica Simpson, and countless, nameless clones of them. The formula has always been simple: Take a blonde haired girl with a half-decent rack, a Monster Booty, and a voice that can break glass, add in some lyric writers and a few uglier chicks who can dance (and a few gay little men) who wear matching clothing, and POOF – you have an overnight musical sensation.

To make matters worse, pop isn’t going away quite yet. We now have American Idol which most of you people out there watch, not realizing that you are contributing to the pop music era’s lifespan and ensuring plenty more LIKE Britney, Christina, and other stupid bitches for years to come. If you want a British guy to insult you and tell you you’re worthless then my UK friend Deerokus’ AIM screen-name is deerokus1 and I’m pretty fucking sure that he’ll insult you or another person’s musical talent or lack thereof for free. Anyway, the music industry realizes that pop is a temporary novelty that will eventually die, especially being that Christina Aguilera looks like she hasn’t bathed in centuries and Britney Spears’ has more fake parts inside her than Johnny-5 of Short Circuit fame.

CEO 1: What ever shall we do? We’re running out of stupid blondes to exploit!
CEO 2: I have a plan B… Something more sinister! We’re going to take over rock music!
CEO 1: Yes, but guys just don’t dig Nickelback and Creed. They have dicks and sing about morality. What shall we do?
CEO 2: Trust me.
CEO 1: We better do it fucking quick then; those fucking Russians have us corned on exploiting lesbians to sell records…

Now, Avril is allegedly “different” from Britney Spears and Christina, or at least that’s what we’ve been told by MTV. What makes Avril different? Read the Avrilifacts below...

---She carries a skateboard and wears a fucking tie because she is “punk.”
---Her hair is dirty blonde as opposed to blonde.
---She’s shorter than the other chicks, with slightly smaller tits.
---She has a really bad attitude towards everyone else alive.
---She’s fucking hot if you’re into that sort of look.

Thus Avrilmania began. 12 year old chicks love this girl, because they think she’s different and extreme and hardcore. Guys love her because she doesn’t dress like a normal pop singer. Me? I’m stuck in limbo. Let me explain to you…

Her music sucks, but I’d damn sure fuck her.

Still, the fact that she’s bitchy simply makes me want to fuck the bitch out of her despite the fact that such a task could take years. There’s something about her rage and her angst and her attitude problem that makes me want to adjust it by beating her in the face with my dick until she learns to comply and obey.

Eh, big deal... I have nothing but respect for Bowie, but isn't this just evidence of the natural progression of things? People are forgotten, and it's not a shame... it's just the evolution of society. And if you don't like it, that doesn't make you superior... it makes you a dinosaur.

To answer the original question, I think people like her music because it's innocuous and catchy (at least the song I heard was). Let kids have their fun... Did none of you h8rs listen to lame music when you were in junior high? (I sure did - although it's probably the same stuff half of you would be proud of.)

Damn, I was so close. As a punishment, I won't go to Hot Topic today.

Bowie is God and most of todays (good) music wouldn't've happened without him! U2 and NIN alone have said Bowie's album 'Low' was one of their greatest influences, in fact Trent Reznor said he listened to it everyday he was writing and recording 'The Downward Spiral'.

To not know who Bowie is and to work in the music industry at the same time is downright blasphemous.

Thank you Mr. Deflock! This is the only reason Lavigne even registers on my radar screen. She stands head and sholders above her pop star, here-today-gone-tomorrow brothers and sisters because she so blantently flaunts her complete ignorance of punk music and rock in general. If you don't understand the history of your chosen profession, how can you attempt to learn, expand and grow?

Answer: You don't. You churn out a few poppy hits that make your record company some money then do a quick fade. We'll see her again in a few years when she poses nude for Playboy.

I think what I hate the most other than her crappy music.. is the fact that she says she's not commercial and she's doing her own thing. Bullshit!! She's as commercial as they come. If you're going to be commercial you could at least look like Brittney.. damn she's hot..can't sing but who wants to sing while you're having sex? Oh and it's been said in this thread already but if you haven't heard Avril's cover of Chop Suey go d/l it.. I almost killed myself.

Avril is a highly successful Canadian girl, due mostly to the genrerous wallets of the American public. I love her for it.

She has an average-pretty voice. She has some musical inclination, i.e. took a stab at writing some of her own songs, and she's got savvy marketeers behind her. It'll be mildly interesting to see if she goes the route of Alanis...

eh, she perfectly fits that idea of the "bad pop princess" and her music is a palpable example of that pop punk crap that is so...um..popular right now. damn redundancy. and it's all just ridiculous because all of these new Blink wannabes sound exactly alike.

Once she ages, will you remember her, and if you do, will you give a shit?

EDIT: Thanks Troublebot for subtly fixing my typo where you quoted me :)

guccilvr, just listened to the Avril version of System of a Down's Chop Suey, never have I heard anything so sad... that bitch has NO shame.