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Toaster126 06-18-2009 08:15 PM

What covers do you think are better than the original?
 
I was thinking about the dynamic of a musical group/artist performing a song by another artist, and the different kinds of covers there are. Some covers are reimaginings of the originals, while others are more of a tribute/mimic.

What covers do you think are better than the original? Why do you like them better?

For me, the three songs that immediately come to mind are , covered by The Killers - originally from Joy Division, , covered by Grand Duchy - originally from The Cure, and , covered by the late Johnny Cash, originally performed by Nine Inch Nails.

I personally love the Killers sound and think most of Joy Division is somewhat annoying, so the first is a no brainer. I love the vocals of the songstress of Grand Duchy, and the effect with the lyrics and musical sound is kinda haunting. Hurt just should have been done by Johnny originally - even Trent Reznor said so. Not exactly a revolutionary opinion.

Zodijackyl 06-18-2009 10:27 PM

In Flames' cover of Genesis' "Land of Confusion". The song is well written, but In Flames brought a different degree and type of intensity to the song, I think the style fits the song much better than the original. Anders Friden's vocal style at this time fits is perfectly, it does bring a bit more of a chaotic feel to the song, but not excessive as his former death metal style would have. Disturbed butchered the song shortly after the IF version was released, it was pretty awful.


jewels 06-19-2009 03:43 AM

Although Badfinger was, in some ways, ahead of its time, O'Sullivan's rendition was classic, haunting and timeless. Although I'm not a huge fan of Mariah Carey, when I first heard her version, I was amazed at what she was able to bring to the song. Chills, baby.

Original:


1st Cover:


2nd Cover:


Baraka_Guru 06-19-2009 05:41 AM

The most poignant one in my mind is Big Sugar's cover of BTO's "Let It Ride." If you haven't heard that cover, it will blow your mind. The difference is that Gordie Johnson's take uses that fusion of blues/rock/reggae that made the band famous, but it really comes down to his soloing, which is simply blazing. The cover is bolder and more meandering than the original, which, by comparison, sounds too straight-ahead.

vanblah 06-19-2009 06:17 AM

Susan Marshall's cover of Steely Dan's "Dirty Work" blows me away. Actually, anything she covers is amazing.

Dave Cousar (local guitar player) does a cover of Prince's "Little Red Corvette" that I can't get enough of. It's possible that he will have a recording of it in our lifetime.

John Cale's version of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah"

7 Seconds' version of Nena's "99 Red Balloons"

Gary Jule's version of Tears For Fears' "Mad World"

Baraka_Guru 06-19-2009 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vanblah (Post 2654327)
John Cale's version of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah"

I like k.d. lang's.

vanblah 06-19-2009 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2654332)
I like k.d. lang's.

Also awesome.

Leto 06-19-2009 07:25 AM

Let's spend the Night Together" by Bowie:



roachboy 06-19-2009 07:59 AM

nico's cover of the doors song "the end"


CinnamonGirl 06-19-2009 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanblah (Post 2654327)
John Cale's version of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah"

Awesome song, no matter who does it... but I really, really like Jeff Buckley's version.


I'm also a big fan of the Bangles' cover of "Hazy Shade of Winter" (Simon & Garfunkel originally.)

Jinn 06-19-2009 11:30 AM

Well I was going to say Cash's Hurt, but that was solidly covered by the OP.

So I'll go with Alien Ant Farm's "Smooth Criminal":



I think MJ did some great songs, but Smooth Criminal was always really flat. His voice was uncharacteristically wispy and flat, and there was almost no bass/environmental affect to the obviously snythesized main line. AAF backed it up with some solid guitar and and a little bit more depth of voice in the lyrics.

It's worth nothing that AAF did almost nothing good after or before this cover, though. :)

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Originally Posted by Zodijackyl (Post 2654233)
In Flames' cover of Genesis' "Land of Confusion". The song is well written, but In Flames brought a different degree and type of intensity to the song, I think the style fits the song much better than the original.

I actually like Disturbed's version a lot better, for the same 'intensity' without the screaming and thrashing of a guitar that I dislike about most heavy metal.

Glory's Sun 06-19-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CinnamonGirl (Post 2654434)
Awesome song, no matter who does it... but I really, really like Jeff Buckley's version.


yes Jeff Buckley's version owns the rest IMO.

anyone who covers Dylan. that's *always* an improvement.

telekinetic 06-19-2009 12:00 PM

A whole thread without mention of the Renegades cover album by Rage Against the Machine? I made a playlist with each song back to back with what it was a cover of, and in 80-90% of the cases, I like the RATM cover better.

Punk.of.Ages 06-19-2009 12:14 PM

As a rule, I usually don't like covers that much. I can't think of a single one I would call better than the original...

Though, when I was about 15 I stumbled across a cover band by the name of Me First and the Gimme Gimmes. The only reason I checked them out is because Fat Mike (lead singer and bassist for NOFX, my favorite band) plays bass for them. I wouldn't say any of their covers are better than the original, but I think the concept of this band is really fun and I enjoy just about every cover they've done.

One other cover I've heard that I enjoyed:


FoolThemAll 06-19-2009 12:18 PM

I haven't heard Cale's version, but I have a lot of contempt for the kd lang and rufus wainwright covers of Hallelujah. Completely unnecessary - Buckley already did that version. Plus, I just hate lang in general. Along with "Helpless", she has a track record for sucking the life out of others' songs.

I'll enter the necessary cliche of Hendrix and "All Along the Watchtower".

I'll probably be contested here, but I prefer the Foo Fighters version of "Baker Street".

And I'll give a vote for A Perfect Circle's hybrid cover, "Diary of a Lovesong".

vanblah 06-19-2009 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll (Post 2654461)
I haven't heard Cale's version, but I have a lot of contempt for the kd lang and rufus wainwright covers of Hallelujah. Completely unnecessary - Buckley already did that version. Plus, I just hate lang in general. Along with "Helpless", she has a track record for sucking the life out of others' songs.

By his own admission Buckley was covering John Cale's version of the song.

CinnamonGirl 06-19-2009 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages (Post 2654460)

Though, when I was about 15 I stumbled across a cover band by the name of Me First and the Gimme Gimmes. The only reason I checked them out is because Fat Mike (lead singer and bassist for NOFX, my favorite band) plays bass for them. I wouldn't say any of their covers are better than the original, but I think the concept of this band is really fun and I enjoy just about every cover they've done.


I love Me First & the Gimme Gimmes! The fact that they're a cover BAND negates any bad feelings I have towards covers. "One Tin Soldier" & "Mandy" are probably my favorites.

Totally need to dig that CD out now...

vanblah 06-19-2009 01:24 PM

I was just looking at the "What are you listening to now" thread and Squeeb mentioned he was listening to Bauhaus' cover of "Ziggy Stardust." I'd completely forgotten about that cover. It's better than the original ... it takes a lot for me to say that because I am a die-hard Bowie fan.

I also think that the 1000 Homo DJs cover of Black Sabbath's "Supernaut" is better ... especially the one with ogre singing instead of Trent Reznor.

God of Thunder 06-19-2009 02:41 PM

I think it goes without saying the best cover ever is probably Jimi's version of "All Along the Watchtower". I think it was even debated on this board a while back.

My favorites are Earth Wind and Fire's version of "Got To Get You Into My Life"

and Stevie Ray Vaughn's "Update" of Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)

LoganSnake 06-19-2009 03:28 PM

Children of Bodom's cover of the Ramones Somebody Put Something in My Drink is sooooooooo much better.


I also like 311's version of Love Song better.


Derwood 06-19-2009 04:16 PM

Foo Fighters - Baker Street
Cake - I Will Survive

Martian 06-19-2009 04:18 PM

There's very little Stevie Ray did that I don't enjoy, and while I certainly appreciate his interpretation of Slight Return, I don't see it as being superior or indeed even equal to the Experience.

It's my opinion that in order to be fully appreciated, Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) needs to be consumed within the context of Electric Ladyland. On it's own it's a happenin' track, but as a part of the whole it's so much more.

I feel almost compelled to record my own version of Hallelujah. It's not that I think I could do it better or even as well as it's been done already, but more that I have an inexplicable urge to add my voice to the chorus. It feels almost like a rite of passage.

There's another track that's been covered ad infinitum. The most famous version is probably that of the Beatles, but I've always felt that Buddy Guy imparted a passion to it that was unrivaled by any of the other performers. To be fair, Buddy Guy seems to approach all of his music with that passion, which I sometimes think must be exhausting:



Naturally opinions vary. This is mine.

EDITED to add this one:



There's something compelling about Jack Johnson singing about drugs and desperation.

EDIT the second:

Now that I've started I keep thinking of others.

Reel Big Fish are a bit sophomoric, but this is one of the few cases where I think the cover really is unambiguously superior to the original.


squeeeb 06-19-2009 05:21 PM

in addition to many of the songs already listed.....

everything me first and the gimme gimmes have done.

metallica's version of whiskey in the jar'o

every cover social distortion ever did

and mike ness' version of don't think twice


and him's version of wicked game


Punk.of.Ages 06-19-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeeb (Post 2654657)
and mike ness' version of don't think twice

I forgot about this one. Good choice...

noodle 06-19-2009 05:46 PM

i've never been able to find a hard copy, but Eric Johnson's live cover of Hendrix' "Waterfalls" actually made me step outside myself once. Of course, I was listening to it live, wrapped around my SO, to be able to stand up straight, but it was spectacular.

Jimellow 06-19-2009 06:21 PM

HIM's cover of Wicked Game is great.

One of my favorite covers by a non-mainstream musician is Carlos Vamos playing Little Wing on an acoustic guitar.


I wouldn't say it's better than the original, but instead pleasantly different.

ShaniFaye 06-19-2009 06:27 PM

Smash Mouth's cover of I'm a Believer

mixedmedia 06-19-2009 07:04 PM

I like Nina Simone's cover of Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues



I'm a huge Dylan fan, most folks know that, but I enjoy this version more than Dylan's original.

thespian86 06-19-2009 07:13 PM

Jeff Buckley - Hallelujah


MGMT - This Must Be The Place (Talking Heads) [this is a bad live version from YEARS ago]



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Somewhere Over the Rainbow - Israel Kamakawiwo'ole


jewels 06-20-2009 02:15 AM

A classic:


And this ...


Leto 06-20-2009 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaniFaye (Post 2654704)
Smash Mouth's cover of I'm a Believer

Now that you say that, I really dug Bram Tchaikovsky's cover of that Neil Diamond tune.



http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...0fallbackd.jpg

Music here:


Bram Tchaikovsky - I'm a Believer / MP3 & Music Blog Song / The Hype Machine


But then I liked everything Bram did...

squeeeb 06-20-2009 07:29 PM

shatner's version (with joe jackson) of common people. beats the shit out of the pulp version


edit: i changed the vid, cause this one is better. watch it, it's worth it.

squeeeb 06-22-2009 12:21 PM

ooh, and jane's addiction's version of "ripple."

Redlemon 06-23-2009 07:03 AM

I hate the Cash/Hurt cover. Just because it has deep "meaning" and background doesn't make it a good performance.

In general, I love covers. Everyone posting in this thread needs to subscribe to the podcast Coverville. 3x a week, about a half-hour each, all covers, tremendously put together.

For cover improvement, I'll have to go with the song "Metro" originally by Berlin. I couldn't stand it in the 80s as a teenager. However, System of a Down kicks it. Great stops, great chunkiness, and the intro is awesome.

fresnelly 06-23-2009 06:06 PM

I like the Shins' cover of The Postal Service's We Will Become Silhouettes. They're both so different that they are excellent companions:




Kind of reminds me of Toad The Wet Sprocket's cover of Kiss' Rock n' Roll All Night:

JumpinJesus 06-23-2009 06:55 PM

Originally performed by Roy Orbison.



The Cramps never received the full attention they deserved.

thespian86 06-23-2009 07:10 PM

Good call on the Shins/Postal Service cover. I forgot a favorite of mine:


of this postal service song


Manic_Skafe 06-23-2009 10:48 PM

I'm not much of a deadhead but Sublime's cover of Scarlet Begonias destroys the original. Seriously one of my favorite songs ever:


siogo 06-24-2009 07:24 AM

Zakk Wylde.......Going To California. Hard to track down, but well worth it.

Strange Famous 06-24-2009 11:29 AM

99 Problems - Jay Z


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