Hyundai Getz: Would you have one for *free? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

jwoody · 11-23-2005, 08:02 AM

I've been offered a company car but I'm undecided whether to take it or not. It would be nice to have a vehicle with no innitial financial outlay but there's a lot more to it than that.

I've had company cars in the past and one particular incident left a sour taste, which may be clouding my judgement. This clerical error at my previous employer meant I was left with humongous tax bill which took years and a lot of hardship to pay back.

Another aspect to consider is that, if I was choosing a car, the Hyundai Getz wouldn't be anywhere near the shortlist.

Then again, it isn't every day you're offered a life of carefree motoring.

Talk to me please. I've got until Friday to make a decision one way or the other.

_________________________

I'll save between £30 and £40 per month on insurance.

I'll save £100 per month on fuel costs.

I'll save £125 per month. The cost of replacing my current vehicle. I had planned to spend roughly £1500 on a banger which would, hopefully last 12 months.

I'll save roughly £20 per month in servicing and repairs.

Total: + £280 per month.

I'll lose between £106 and £136 per month in taxes.

I'll lose between £75 and £100 per month in 'expenses'.

Total: - £207 per month.

MooseMan3000 · 11-23-2005, 09:33 AM

So you get paid (about) 73 pounds per month to drive a car. (In expenses saved)

The problem is that you don't like the car, right?

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Originally Posted by jwoody

I had planned to spend roughly £1500 on a banger which would, hopefully last 12 months.

Which would you prefer having: a shitty used car or a shitty new (free) car? The decision seems fairly obvious to me. Call me crazy, but I'd take the Getz.

Jinn · 11-23-2005, 09:39 AM

Take it, and read all of your contracts and state your concerns explicitly. If you avoid the tax-rapage that you felt last time, this looks like a win-win situation.

Redlemon · 11-23-2005, 09:41 AM

One big disadvantage to a company car - if you get laid off, you don't have a car, and that makes the job hunt more difficult.

Oh, perhaps you could get two of those Getz, one for each foot?

Jinn · 11-23-2005, 09:41 AM

And yea, it's not exactly a sexy sports car..

http://www.autoexpert.bg/free/graph/...tz_2002_02.jpg

But it's not really UGLY.. like a sporty-ish station wagon..

Charlatan · 11-23-2005, 10:24 AM

Take the car... put the money you saved into an account to save for the car you want. Pay cash.

jwoody · 11-23-2005, 11:12 AM

Hmm. I think agree with the general consensus here.

The way I was, sort of, looking at it was: I'll be paying (via tax) for a car I don't really want without factoring in the money I'll be saving on owning my own car.

I think I'm going to..... take the car.

Thanks for the comments, your opinions are all very helpful.

Charlatan · 11-23-2005, 11:19 AM

Now... jwoody of Newcastle, England... do you want to keep the car or trade it for what's behind door number three?!!?

Daoust · 11-23-2005, 11:24 AM

DOOR 3!!!! DOOR #3!!!!!!!

(just kidding. take the car, you silly bunt.)

jwoody · 11-23-2005, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MooseMan

The problem is that you don't like the car, right?

That's the general gist of it.

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Originally Posted by MooseMan

Which would you prefer having: a shitty used car or a shitty new (free) car? The decision seems fairly obvious to me. Call me crazy, but I'd take the Getz.

I think you're right.

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Originally Posted by JinnKai

Take it, and read all of your contracts and state your concerns explicitly. If you avoid the tax-rapage that you felt last time, this looks like a win-win situation.

I hate the tax man for what he done to me. Hate him, passionately. Every time I look at my pay note, a little piece of my heart will turn to coal.

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Originally Posted by Redlemon

One big disadvantage to a company car - if you get laid off, you don't have a car, and that makes the job hunt more difficult.

So long as I don't fuck up, my job is safe until at least 2012.

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Originally Posted by Redlemon

Oh, perhaps you could get two of those Getz, one for each foot?

I'd better 'Getz' used to comments like this one.

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

Take the car... put the money you saved into an account to save for the car you want. Pay cash.

I hadn't thought of that at all, and with the money I have now I could get myself a decent summer car.

cyrnel · 11-23-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

Take the car... put the money you saved into an account to save for the car you want. Pay cash.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Scorps · 11-24-2005, 10:21 PM

Why are european car so damn ugly?

Willravel · 11-24-2005, 10:53 PM

Would I? Hell no. Should you? Hell yes.

cyrnel · 11-24-2005, 10:59 PM

What do you want in exchange for 49 quid and a bus pass? Anyway, it's not European, it's a Hyundai. All the S. Korean econos look like shoeboxes.

Dragonknight · 11-25-2005, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by willravel

Would I? Hell no. Should you? Hell yes.

Exactly!! save up and get a better car when you need one. Don't let a free ride pass you bye.

Charlatan · 11-25-2005, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pain Train

Why are european car so damn ugly?

umm.... Hyundai is a Korean car maker.

Fly · 11-25-2005, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

Take the car... put the money you saved into an account to save for the car you want. Pay cash.

bingo!!!!!!!!

good luck buddy.

silent_jay · 11-25-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pain Train

Why are european car so damn ugly?

As Charlatan already said they're Korean, and it really isn't that ugle when you consider the hatchbacks we have here. Matrix, Swift, Mazda 3, Echo RS. The getz is far better looking IMO than any of the cars I mentioned.

I'd take the Getz.

jwoody · 11-25-2005, 12:20 PM

The Getz was ordered today. I should have it on Monday or Tuesday.

The tax I'll pay is based on a percentage of the car's value relative to the carbon emmisions (grams per kilometre, or something like that). The Getz is possibly the cheapest car there is and it has the lowest emmisions, therefore the lowest taxation.

I intend to plant trees with the money I save and single-handedly save the planet.

Either do that, or spend it on drink.

I'll update the thread with a review once I've had a good go.

Scorps · 11-25-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

umm.... Hyundai is a Korean car maker.

Yes I know, I forgot still ugly and gunk!!

silent_jay · 11-25-2005, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pain Train

Yes I know, I forgot still ugly and gunk!!

I'd hardly call them junk (I think thats what you meant to type) Hyundai has come a long way since the days of the Pony. If I'm not mistaken they're one of the top 5 automakers now.

At least they have some kind of choice in their line, rather than the same car only rebadged, much like the American automakers seem to like to do.

merkerguitars · 11-25-2005, 11:41 PM

Looks like a good cheap reliable car, hell people would kill for a car that got that good of gas mileage over here. Hell $355 in savings a month is WELL worth it.

rideough · 11-26-2005, 09:33 AM

I'd take a Korean or European car over any of the crap produced in North America. Seriously they've been pumping out hideous monstrosities like the Malibu since the mid 70's and I've yet to see any of them stir any passion in me.

oane · 11-26-2005, 10:45 PM

Take the Getz but read the paperwork properly.

MSD · 11-29-2005, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rideough

I'd take a Korean or European car over any of the crap produced in North America. Seriously they've been pumping out hideous monstrosities like the Malibu since the mid 70's and I've yet to see any of them stir any passion in me.

[Insert generic blanket dismissive response to generic blanket hatred of American cars here]

Charlatan · 11-30-2005, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct

[Insert generic blanket dismissive response to generic blanket hatred of American cars here]

like it's any different from the blanket hatred of so-called foreign cars...

By the way, jwoody did you getz your Getz yet? We want a review!

Ishmal · 12-02-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

By the way, jwoody did you getz your Getz yet? We want a review!

i second that...

jwoody · 12-03-2005, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan

By the way, jwoody did you getz your Getz yet? We want a review!

Because I can't do my job without a car, and because I still have a load of holiday to take bafore January, I've had a week off work.

I'll be picking the car up on Monday morning.

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11-23-2005, 08:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
jwoody Shackle Me Not Location: Newcastle - England.	*Hyundai Getz: Would you have one for free? I've been offered a company car but I'm undecided whether to take it or not. It would be nice to have a vehicle with no innitial financial outlay but there's a lot more to it than that. I've had company cars in the past and one particular incident left a sour taste, which may be clouding my judgement. This clerical error at my previous employer meant I was left with humongous tax bill which took years and a lot of hardship to pay back. Another aspect to consider is that, if I was choosing a car, the Hyundai Getz wouldn't be anywhere near the shortlist. Then again, it isn't every day you're offered a life of carefree motoring. Talk to me please. I've got until Friday to make a decision one way or the other. _________________________ I'll save between £30 and £40 per month on insurance. I'll save £100 per month on fuel costs. I'll save £125 per month. The cost of replacing my current vehicle. I had planned to spend roughly £1500 on a banger which would, hopefully last 12 months. I'll save roughly £20 per month in servicing and repairs. Total: + £280 per month. I'll lose between £106 and £136 per month in taxes. I'll lose between £75 and £100 per month in 'expenses'. Total: - £207** per month. __________________ . Last edited by jwoody; 11-23-2005 at 08:52 AM..

11-23-2005, 09:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	Take it, and read all of your contracts and state your concerns explicitly. If you avoid the tax-rapage that you felt last time, this looks like a win-win situation. __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel

11-23-2005, 09:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	One big disadvantage to a company car - if you get laid off, you don't have a car, and that makes the job hunt more difficult. Oh, perhaps you could get two of those Getz, one for each foot? __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

11-23-2005, 09:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	And yea, it's not exactly a sexy sports car.. http://www.autoexpert.bg/free/graph/...tz_2002_02.jpg But it's not really UGLY.. like a sporty-ish station wagon.. __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel

11-23-2005, 10:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Take the car... put the money you saved into an account to save for the car you want. Pay cash. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

11-23-2005, 11:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
jwoody Shackle Me Not Location: Newcastle - England.	Hmm. I think agree with the general consensus here. The way I was, sort of, looking at it was: I'll be paying (via tax) for a car I don't really want without factoring in the money I'll be saving on owning my own car. I think I'm going to..... take the car. Thanks for the comments, your opinions are all very helpful. __________________ .

11-23-2005, 11:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	Now... jwoody of Newcastle, England... do you want to keep the car or trade it for what's behind door number three?!!? __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

11-23-2005, 11:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
Daoust "I'm sorry. What was the question?" Location: Paradise Regained	DOOR 3!!!! DOOR #3!!!!!!! (just kidding. take the car, you silly bunt.) __________________ I have faith in a few things - divinity and grace But even when I'm on my knees I know the devil preys

11-24-2005, 10:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	Why are european car so damn ugly?

11-24-2005, 10:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Would I? Hell no. Should you? Hell yes.

11-24-2005, 10:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	What do you want in exchange for 49 quid and a bus pass? Anyway, it's not European, it's a Hyundai. All the S. Korean econos look like shoeboxes. __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195

11-25-2005, 12:20 PM	#19 (permalink)
jwoody Shackle Me Not Location: Newcastle - England.	The Getz was ordered today. I should have it on Monday or Tuesday. The tax I'll pay is based on a percentage of the car's value relative to the carbon emmisions (grams per kilometre, or something like that). The Getz is possibly the cheapest car there is and it has the lowest emmisions, therefore the lowest taxation. I intend to plant trees with the money I save and single-handedly save the planet. Either do that, or spend it on drink. I'll update the thread with a review once I've had a good go. __________________ .

11-25-2005, 11:41 PM	#22 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Location: Wisconsin...	Looks like a good cheap reliable car, hell people would kill for a car that got that good of gas mileage over here. Hell $355 in savings a month is WELL worth it. __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=26985 Last edited by merkerguitars; 11-25-2005 at 11:44 PM..

11-26-2005, 09:33 AM	#23 (permalink)
rideough Insane Location: Ottawa...the greatest city in Canada...down the road from silentjay!	I'd take a Korean or European car over any of the crap produced in North America. Seriously they've been pumping out hideous monstrosities like the Malibu since the mid 70's and I've yet to see any of them stir any passion in me. __________________ i may or may not be on acid right now....

11-26-2005, 10:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
oane Insane	Take the Getz but read the paperwork properly. __________________ Make me Mad. Make me Sad. Make me feel Alright.