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So how many of you have actually been to the dyno?
In the latest thread asking how much HP your car has, I got thinking. With the exception of 2-3 people, almost everyone is posting the "rated" hp or what they think thier car will make... So who here has actually dynoed thier car?
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I've dyno'd my MR2 NA 9 or 10 times...I'm keeping charts for the gains from each mod, and I was the dyno tester for a prototype intake. I'd increased the old motor from the stock 104.9 rwhp to 119.7 rwhp. Who knows how that will translate to the new motor (stupid catastrophic rod bearing failure, grumble grumble)
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I'm dynoed at 148 rwhp... and 253 ft/lbs ;)
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Many years back, a friend worked at a car tuners.
They regularly dealt with the popular Sierra Cossies, Escorts, Celica GT-4s, etc. etc. They even modded the bosses brothers Bentley. Friend put his car on it - 82/83 model Ford Sierra 2.0 Ghia Auto. We had always thought it felt chronically underpowered. Rated out of the box at 100brake. Actual power? Just under 50. It ran like a total dog. |
MIne is 172, I took it into my auto tech school, So me and a few friends were checking out my car.
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I will do a rear wheel dyno once I get my car assembled. I would like to do an engine dyno but it's really not worth pulling the engine out after break in.
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I would love to go to a dyno, but I don't think there is one in town here!
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280HP 1996 2.5RS
PT no use dynoying the Daytona, just joking man |
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I took my Ram a few weeks after I bought it. Got 247 rwhp, 299 rwtq, but there's issues with the run that make those numbers suspect (too low).
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Kurant, you beat me to it :D
Your "hemi" is in a front engine, rear wheel drive truck, therefore your powertrain and drivetrain loss will be greater than that of say a front engine front wheel drive honda. And no offense, but the amazing "Hemi" is a helluva lot of hype. Just another engine..... but I wont even get into that. |
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I've dynoed alot of times. 267whp was my best.
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Pretty much all 4-valve engines have hemispherical heads, as do many others. My mom's Kia is a "Hemi". Doesn't mean it can get out of its own way! :lol: |
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And actully, there is a shop up here called Hales Tech that dyno'd a Hemi witht he 20" wheels on it, it was 228rwhp. Can't remember the rwtq number but I remember the HP number, the dyno sheet was posted online, I'll see if I can track it down.
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There's no way I'm going to deal with the embarassment of driving in to dyno a stock Buick Century. Maybe if I do something to the engine.
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Two dyno runs: $50 The sudden realization that you're going 147mph on S-rated tires: Priceless |
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My 401 AMC Spirit GT with a Richmond 5-speed and a 2.87 gear was built for street and some road racing. It has been dynoed twice, in 2000 at 302 hp.and 390 ft.lb. at the rear wheels and at the 2003 Bristol Bash with a fresh engine,a better high torque cam and the new Air-Gap intake it showed 323 hp. and 410 ft.lb. at the rear wheels. This means at the engine SAE net = 372 hp. and 471 ft lb.
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I make my living fixing things and troubleshooting using a dyno. You know the truck/car is running well when you have to chain it down.
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1987 Volvo 740 Turbo (b230ft Kblock bored to 2.5L)
272 hp at the wheels with 19lbs boost 251 lbft torque Air Intake ceramic ball bearing turbo Greddy waste gate Greddy ProFec Greddy Blow-off valve Custom built 3" downpipe to Random Technologies 3" cat 3.5" exhaust all the way back port and polish head work copper gaskets new injectors (can't remember what flow #'s) Spearco Intercooler Greddy Rebic IV (Sub-Injector Controller) Under Drive pulleys and don't say that motors can be weak because of cylinders or displacement, this was an in-line 4..... fun car, damn ex-wife made me sell it when we were broke...the next guy fixed the alternator for 50$.... |
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I haven't really heard of too many people modding that engine. There isn't much available for the naturally aspirated 3.8 (they made an SC version but everything down to the block and heads was beefed up to handle the power), plus V8/supercharged V6 T-Birds/Cougars/Mark VIIIs are cheap and easy to come by. |
287 rwhp that was a 99 cobra. don't have the car anymore. don't remember trq. was pretty close the same like 291 i believe. just had a few bolt ons almost stock.
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I dyno'd my car twice.
First time slightly moded, my stock clutch started slipping at 360rwhp so I stopped, went home, saved money for a heavy duty clutch, went back a few months later, dyno'd 435rwhp/455rwtq. I've been to lots of dyno sessions just to participate with local car club members and help out but I won't need to dyno again until I perform further substantial mods and I want to confirm results or tune under conditions difficult to maintain on public roads ...like tuning a fuel control computer at full throttle at high boost ...it's not responsible to go 170+mph on public roads. Disclaimer: or call it responsibility claimer or justification of absurd dangerous behaviour: on public roads I drive very responsibly, residential areas I go speed limit or slower, but I race on race tracks a few times a year and hammer it on open highways when nobody is anywhere in sight and I want everything in my car to work properly. |
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This is a hemi:
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/hemi-diagram.gif This is a pentroof head: http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/hemi-pent-roof.gif One thing that a hemispherical head will never have is four valves per cylinder. The valve angles would be so crazy that the head would be nearly impossible to design. Having only two valves per cylinder is not an issue in drag racing or NASCAR because racing engines are limited to two valves per cylinder in these categories. But on the street, four slightly smaller valves let an engine breath easier than two large valves. Modern engines use a pentroof design to accommodate four valves. Another reason most high-performance engines no longer use a HEMI design is the desire to create a smaller combustion chamber. Small chambers further reduce the heat lost during combustion, and also shorten the distance the flame front must travel during combustion. The compact pentroof design is helpful here, as well. taken from :http://auto.howstuffworks.com/hemi5.htm |
a hemi is a hemi is just another engine design is a hemi
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I dont know why everyone loves to hate the hemi but its actually a pretty nice engine. My truck weighs over 6,000 lbs and the not so exciting engine you guys are talking about makes my truck seem like it weighs nothing. Anybody who is interested in trucks might also take note of a quote off the Kenne Bell site. "The Hemi made more power than any naturally aspirated stock truck engine we ever dyno tested. And the mighty Hemi lived up to it's legacy by easily producing over 500HP with the Kenne Bell supercharger kit." Now I will agree with you guys that the commercials were laughable and dodge jipped us on a computer but I would hold off on dismissing the hemi as just another engine until we get some tuners out for it.
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