Scorps

Well A buddy of mine has one of these that he is selling for 1600. I'm buying I just want to know what all you guys think of it?

it has a little spot of rust on both back fenders....so small and I got a friend that can fix it for dirt cheap, the main problem is it needs a engine rebuild to pass emissions. Now I was thinking of doing all 4 pistons. Is that a good idea or should I go for a full engine over-hall?

Im getting a bank loan for 3000 dollars so that leaves me 1400 for the engine im hoping thats enough!



These pics are not th car...but looks just like it:
http://www.auto-enthusiast.com/shelbydodge/daytona/Pictures/2002

It has the T-Roof and di

DEI37

Seems a little pricey, especially if the engine needs to be rebuilt. That's a good bit out of line, if you ask me.

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silent_jay

DON"T DO IT, stay away, there's a reason that everyone of them needs major body work, and the engines sound like someone threw sand inside, STAY AWAY. The uh Shelby name on that thing is going to cause Mr. Shelby to roll over in his grave when he eventually passes, poor man has to have his great name associated with this POS. Just an opinion.

Search the Auto Trader there will be something better than this thing.

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CrazySaturn

Get it. Those things make great little sleepers. That and, with proper loving care, those cars should last a while.
Take it to a local mechanic and ask him what he thinks.

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irseg

$1600 for a rusty K-car with a blown engine?! Uhhhh... I'd pass on that one.

3 years ago I bought an 88 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe with 74k miles, excellent in & out, no rust, drivetrain in perfect shape (just needed a tuneup and a few sensors) for $1200. I still have it now, running great at 105k. Keep shopping around, you can do a lot better than that pile.

Boo

Price out a complete long block. Then see if it is still worth it. I think you will find that there are much better deals out there.

Chrysler and Dodge are lower than Gremlins and Pacers in my scoring.

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Stare At The Sun

Yeah, you could get a lot better of a car for 3,000 dollars total.

What do you want out of this car?

merkerguitars

I would check around to see if you can find a good engine from a junkyard and then it might be worth it. I'm not to knowledgable on those cars.....

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silent_jay

Do cars not need to be fast, and subtle before they can be considered sleepers, what is this thing going to race a Nissan Micra? And with all the ugly plastic it isn't being very subtle about whatever it is it's trying to do, and the fast part must of got lost somewhere. From what I see around my town they may last but the years aren't kind to any part of these things, no amount of TLC will save them

Just because it says Shelby on it doesn't make it good, remember that.

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WarWagon

No way in hell that car is worth $1600. Honestly. Those 2.2's can fly when you build them right, but ask yourself, is this car worth $1600 without a motor in the engine bay? No way. MAYBE if the rest of the car was MINT.

Plus the upkeep on the turbo setup, plus injectors, etc etc. Oh yea, and insurance companies somehow get off calling it a sports car, so that'll do a number on your rates. If you want the performance, you can get one of the 2.2 turbo sedans for next to nothing.

billege

The only way I'd consider that one a sleeper is because the train of thought is:

That POS can move? foreward even?

By the time the average driver has recovered the k-car is ahead by five carlengths.

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Scorps

well out of 10 posts one person is with me on this, my parents don't even want me to get it, but they don't know shit about cars, they just don't think I have to money!



My buddies mechanic said 800 that is the rings for the one piston that needs work and valve seals, but I need to ask my mechanic how much it would be to have all the piston rings done!

silent_jay

And then when the piston rings are new, a new problem will come up and need to be fixed at X amount of dollars, and then from more newer parts more things are going to fall apart at X amount of dollars, realistically man the car's going to be a money pit that's all, your parents may not know anything about cars, but listen to them on this one, also only 1 person has said this is a good car, don't listen to him.

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irseg

Yeah, tearing down the whole engine to replace one ring set would be pretty halfassed. If one went bad, the others won't be far behind.

Most of us are against it because $1600 for a rusty 80s Chrysler with a bad engine is an absolute ripoff.

Scorps

I know if you put new parts in the old ones will fail, thats why Im going to talk to my mechanic about what parts to change! I got 1400 to spend on a rebuild. I found a website that is based on the Daytona. This car would still have a engine that runs fine....if my buddy would have let the Turbo warm up and cool down!

silent_jay

you're still going to have the same problem wether or not you talk to your mechanic about what parts to change, the new ones will still cause the old ones to break.

Seriously man take your $3000 and find a different car this thing is only going to piss you off because you squandered your money on it, do you really want to be paying off a bank loan for a car that you can't drive?

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Scorps

I got into this same problem if my Dad....maybe thats why I don't talk to my parents anymore.....but this is going to be a driveable project car! As the years go by I will do more and more to it!

irseg

Not letting the turbo will cool off can cause the turbo to wear out prematurely, but it won't kill the rings or make your valve seals leak.

Ever notice when the light turns green and the car in front of you engulfs you in a cloud of oil smoke, it's almost guaranteed to be an 80s/early 90s Mopar? They had a lot of problems with that..

And the new parts won't necessarily break the old ones, but I can assure you they won't have any problems crapping out on their own. The alternator will go, or the clutch (I hope that car has a manual, Chrysler slushboxes are terrible!). A brake caliper might seize.. Or you'll try to get it aligned only to find that the front end is worn out. Trust me, I've owned a lot of fixer-uppers, and at that age anything and everything can break. A few hundred bucks here and there adds up fast, and in the end you still have an old rattletrap.

laconic1

You can put all the new parts in the engine that you want, but then other stuff will go wrong. Electronic parts, CV joints, hubs, transmission, clutch, suspension parts, accessories. There is a reason there aren't many '80s and even early '90s Chrysler vehicles on the road anymore. They are serious money pits.

Ilow

Pain, I can't help but agree with most of my fellow posters on this one. That car might not be worth $1600 mint, never mind with engine probs. Everyone loves a project, but think long and hard about this one. If you like mopars, get an older one. Maybe you're trying to be different than the import or the pony car enthusiasts, but you'd probably have more luck and more fun with an '87 mustang or something. I don't know much about those turbos, but knowing that Chrysler was barely afloat financially at that time leads me to believe they cut corners on most everything like oil and water jackets and intercoolers. Maybe we're all wrong, but even if you're right, you'll have a nice '87 DAYTONA!? good luck either way.

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cr25ovet

i would get it. click link
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/507333
even if you don't invest a lot of money in performance parts you probably will smoke most cars. especially those teenager with those stupid hondas with a fart can. i say go for it!!!

bodypainter

I won't tell to run away because any car you buy could turn into a turd. If you like the car, well that's really important.

But I think you should try to convince your friend that he's asking too much for the car. Seriously, in running condition it should be more like 1000 USD. You don't have to steal it, but it's not too much to expect a fair price.

silent_jay

What do you consider most cars, like chevettes and things, or actual SCC, RSX T-S's, and the like, because yes it could beat the Chevette, but the RSX T-S not a bloody chance, in fact I think that most cars could beat this, the one you showed had so much money invested in it he could of bought a real car and still had money left over to do mods, like I and everyone else said before STAY AWAY.

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MarkeyMarc

um yeah you know what you're talking about.... hell, a stock Shelby-Z with stock boost produces 175hp and 200 ft/lbs torque (you know what torque is Mr. RSX?) and weight about 2700lbs.
Any of these Turbo Dodges with T2's can fuckin' haul ass son. You would be surprised.

As for the guy buying the car $1600 is abit much for the condition its in.

check out the TD forums
http://www.turbododge.com/


also
http://www.thedodgegarage.com/

silent_jay

alright fiest off starting a sentence with "uh yeah you know what you're talking about isn't the way to start off on a good foot I notice you have 1 post and you fucked that up, try (if you can) and come across with a little class when you post, don't show up here like you know everything, maybe you should go and read the rules that might help, oh yeah and I'm not your fuckin son.

Yes I know what torque is and my name isn't Mr. RSX jesus I hate newbies like this god damn know it alls, alright they HAD 200lbs of torque but after rednecks get their hands on them it's all gone, and the only way I'd be surprised by these cars is if they actually didn't die, you go check out your fancy dodge fourms and links I don't want to waste my time.

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Scorps

See I don't want to mod the shit out of it, but my buddy beat the pants off the local street racer in a drag with that thing running on 3 pistons!

the guy he raced had a Prelude with a turbo Intake and all kinds of stuff...I find it hard to believe, but after driving that thing I believe him now!

cr25ovet

believe me you can make those things really fast. i lost to one and that was when i had my 99 cobra. and i walked wrx and evos with that cobra. but lost to the shelby in my area.

cr25ovet

at least the newbie has some brain. silent jay how old are you? you worked on any cars? you raced cars? what car do you have? you ever raced against a shelby dodge?

Scorps

Ya no one does know what car he does drive...but I bet I could beat it with only 3 pistons

irseg

Yeah, gotta watch for those rednecks and their torque-depleting powers. Just the other day an old pickup truck with a gun rack and a Confederate flag drove by, I must've lost a good 50 lb-ft!

BTW, an RSX Type-S isn't exactly the gold standard of sports cars. It runs high 14's in the 1/4 mile. Meaning under perfect conditions it'll just barely edge out my 4000-pound '93 Lincoln or a 15 year old Taurus SHO. I'm sure Corvette and Viper owners are shaking in their boots.

silent_jay

Alright (I'll edit myself to save the mods time) I've stated what I drive before but seeing as brains are not the hot thing amongst some people here I drive a 1996 Subaru 2.5RS with the 22B engine, is that good enough for ya, try to beat that with 3 pistons jesus use your head man, buy your POS Daytona and listen to these (edit myself)
And cr25ovet yes I do work on cars, my age has nothing to do with it, so that is irrelevant, yes I have raced and beat a Daytona so what would you like to know next what I had for breakfast this morning? And who the hell are you to judge if I have a brain or not? absolutely no one. try focusing on the topic of the forum instead of personal attacks, Isn't it comical that the rookies always come in insulting I know I did the same thing, grow up guys.

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silent_jay

read the post try to get some understanding I was talking about rednecks that pound the piss out of their cars and don't maintain them, I'm soon going to start drawing some pictures for you guys. I hope you aren't calling the Daytona the Gold standard of sports cars, do you know what this thread is about? reade it sometime.

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Scorps

are you saying I'm a Redneck?....Well I'm NOT!, I don't drive the piss out of my cars....ya from time to time I drive them hard but who doesn't!

My buddy was 17 when he first bought this Daytona, and didn't know what type of damage a Turbo could do to the engine!

If I could find one without a blowin engine I wouldn't probably buy it....I want this car because I like to fix cars up and these new cars are damn computers now and you can't do shit with them unless you have a 300 dollar hand held diagnostics computer.

silent_jay

Holy misunderstanding READ the posts jesus PT I never said you were a redneck did you read that no there settled, the people I was talking about are the kind of people that drive the shit out of their cars and don't maintain them and then still claim they have the same specs as when they were new, the pictures are coming soon this is terrible reading comprehension is a wonderful thing try it

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irseg

Which engine did it have? The base models only had like 100 horsepower.

And where did I say the Daytona was a good or even somewhat decent car? It's just a reworked economical family car with a hopped-up engine (in some cases). Much like the glorious Civ..err..RSX you love so much.

cr25ovet

silent jay i never said you have no brain!! read my post please!
age has something to do with experience so i think its pretty important.
and no don't want to know what you had for breakfast.
thanks and have a good day!

qtpye4u84

My dad always drove Shelby's
He wrecked(rolled) a red with silver racing stripe, Shelby GT turbo the ones that have the hatch back. He had a black one too but he traded it in for a family car.

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Peryn

So's punctuation...


What you said :
What you meant :
Its pretty easy to see where the misunderstanding comes from when you look at it...



Anyway, the Shelby-Z CAN be a very nice car, pretty quick and decent handling. But the price you payed (or are going to pay?) is just a little too high. If it were running well, then it would be an ok price, given the condition you said its in...but needing a rebuild? You got taken if you paid $1600, even if it is in Canadian money.

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MarkeyMarc

HYPOCRITE, practice what you preach..."OmG!!! dis cArz iz SloW Styz AwAy!!111 NE CaRz FaSta diS POS CaR!!11!one!!11"
after reading this one topic you seem to spit more shit then my asshole son.

I was just stating some FACTS about the car...i'm sorry that you got your panties in a bunch about it.

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silent_jay

First off I'm not your god damned son, if I spew more shit than your asshole maybe you should try some Ex-Lax or Metamusil, or Prunes they always work, second this
isn't stating an opinion about the topic this is an attack on me, what does this have to do with a car nothing

I don't think punctuation is what you are looking for here, because my punctuation was fine
And if age is so important I am 26
I don't know it had the fancy lines up the hood and the roof that make it go so fast, I guess it was the turbo or whatever their special edition was, not that it mattered it didn't have a prayer against my Subaru, I mean come on do you know the power that engine produces? And I never said I loved the RSX, I was using a car as a comparisson, but I do like the RSX Type-S

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