Detroit Lions Sign Troubles - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

thingstodo · 12-05-2005, 04:16 PM

You may have heard about how lousy the Lions are - this year - again. But the point of this thread is to open discussion on certain behaviors and possible rights of free speech.

This past weekend, many fans at a Lions game showed their displeasure at and interest in the firing of Lions GM & CEO Matt Millan by holding signs that said "Fire Matt", etc. Security had them remove these signs. They even had a guy that wrote the same thing on his t-shirt cover the shirt or leave. One fan running with his sign was tackled (that security officer should be on the Lions defensive line!!).

What's up with that?

So, what are your thoughts on signs at sporting events like football games and how far should security be able to go if the signs aren't profain, etc.??

Psycho Dad · 12-05-2005, 04:26 PM

Who owns the Silverdome? If city property perhaps there may be a case for free speech. If the Lions own it, they should be able to have some control over what gets put up and what doesn't.

maleficent · 12-05-2005, 04:27 PM

I was a season ticket holder for the ny giants... there's a no sign policy at the stadium, no matter what the sign says, and security will remove them... Which is fine.. In the icebox that is giants stadium... in years where they couldn't beat a powder puff team... the chants from the crowd calling for the heads of certain coaches would get pretty funny. There was one game, during the Ray Handley year... where the chants of Ray Must Go were so loud, a television time out was taken to get the crowd to settle down...

Signs at games are stupid... most of the time they really say nothing, except for someone looking for their 5 seconds of fame...

Gilda · 12-05-2005, 08:33 PM

When you go onto someone else's property, in this case a football stadium either owned or leased for the particular event by the Lions, you have to follow their rules. A ticket admits you to the game, it doesn't give you carte blanche to act as you please.

The first amentment applies solely to the government restricting free speech. Private institutions are free to do as they like.

To sum up: Thier house, thier rules. If you don't like it, don't go.

Gilda

Redlemon · 12-06-2005, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maleficent

Signs at games are stupid... most of the time they really say nothing, except for someone looking for their 5 seconds of fame...

And they block the view of the people behind you. Signs are stupid.

maleficent · 12-06-2005, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon

And they block the view of the people behind you. Signs are stupid.

Giants stadium even has a no umbrella rule... because it blocks people

thingstodo · 12-10-2005, 07:26 AM

Just an update...they do allow other signs. Also, to them size doesn't matter as one guy was ejected for sign written on a brown paper bag. I can see many benefits of a no sign (or umbrella) rule. Selective enforcement is what is troubling.

12-05-2005, 04:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	Detroit Lions Sign Troubles You may have heard about how lousy the Lions are - this year - again. But the point of this thread is to open discussion on certain behaviors and possible rights of free speech. This past weekend, many fans at a Lions game showed their displeasure at and interest in the firing of Lions GM & CEO Matt Millan by holding signs that said "Fire Matt", etc. Security had them remove these signs. They even had a guy that wrote the same thing on his t-shirt cover the shirt or leave. One fan running with his sign was tackled (that security officer should be on the Lions defensive line!!). What's up with that? So, what are your thoughts on signs at sporting events like football games and how far should security be able to go if the signs aren't profain, etc.?? __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.

12-05-2005, 04:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Psycho Dad Mulletproof Location: Some nucking fut house.	Who owns the Silverdome? If city property perhaps there may be a case for free speech. If the Lions own it, they should be able to have some control over what gets put up and what doesn't. __________________ Don't always trust the opinions of experts.

12-05-2005, 04:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	I was a season ticket holder for the ny giants... there's a no sign policy at the stadium, no matter what the sign says, and security will remove them... Which is fine.. In the icebox that is giants stadium... in years where they couldn't beat a powder puff team... the chants from the crowd calling for the heads of certain coaches would get pretty funny. There was one game, during the Ray Handley year... where the chants of Ray Must Go were so loud, a television time out was taken to get the crowd to settle down... Signs at games are stupid... most of the time they really say nothing, except for someone looking for their 5 seconds of fame... __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

12-05-2005, 08:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Gilda 32 flavors and then some Location: Out on a wire.	When you go onto someone else's property, in this case a football stadium either owned or leased for the particular event by the Lions, you have to follow their rules. A ticket admits you to the game, it doesn't give you carte blanche to act as you please. The first amentment applies solely to the government restricting free speech. Private institutions are free to do as they like. To sum up: Thier house, thier rules. If you don't like it, don't go. Gilda __________________ I'm against ending blackness. I believe that everyone has a right to be black, it's a choice, and I support that. ~Steven Colbert

12-10-2005, 07:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
thingstodo A Storm Is Coming Location: The Great White North	Just an update...they do allow other signs. Also, to them size doesn't matter as one guy was ejected for sign written on a brown paper bag. I can see many benefits of a no sign (or umbrella) rule. Selective enforcement is what is troubling. __________________ If you're wringing your hands you can't roll up your shirt sleeves. Stangers have the best candy.