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Cat Hunting
I have to admit, I'm torn on this one. I've had a couple pet cats I was very fond of but I've also battled the cat overpopulation problem. They use my yard, garden, flowerbeds, and even sidewalks as their litterbox. They walk on whatever, getting things muddy, scratching paint, spraying things that oughtent be sprayed, leaving dead birds around, etc. My family has always wondered why they are treated differently than dogs. (leash, strays, etc) I wouldn't go hunting them but I haven't hesitated to set up sensors and water traps to send the strays scurrying. Yes, now and then I forget and give myself an accidental shower. :D
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Fine with me.
I don't like cats at all though. |
I always hated the fact that people let their cats roam & pollute other peoples yards. Nothing smells worse than cat urine & what a mess they make of flower beds.
I leash my cat when I take him outside. I don't want my cat to be the disdain of the neighborhood, and I certainly don't want to subject people to his feces. I don't want poop in my yard, I'm sure noone wants it in theirs. I guess some pet owners just don't get it. |
I'm all for it.. Cat's are the worst animals on the planet. They don't do anything useful *unless* they are around for controlling other pests. That's quite rare in todays society. Kill em all I say.
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What about a proposal to kill free-roaming dogs as well? Not a week goes by that I don't read about another "wonderful pit-bull family dog" that has gotten out of the pen and attacked or killed another child or adult. But it's much more important to have proposals to save the birds than to save the people. Next thing you know these guys will be complaining about the bird population. They're all a bunch of quacks.
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let's not turn this into a "dog attacks" thread.. there are plenty of those around..
The propopsal in all honesty is pretty stupid. Unless the cats start thinning the population of birds out to a dangerous number then it shouldn' t be much of an issue.. |
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........typical |
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at least explain how it's typical. It's no secret that I hate cats. However I do think there should be laws for all pets..including dog's. SO I'm not completely biased in that sense. If you want to go over the other ideals then we should take it to PM so that this thread can stay on track. |
Seems to me that this planet would be a lot better off if some PEOPLE turned up missing, not innocent animals.
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How did I know you'd weigh in on this ;) I agree. It's not the cat's fault that its owner is a dipshit who lets it wander all over. Instead of hunting cats, I'd advocate hunting for their owners and slapping them with penalties that would hurt. I'm talking jail time. Letting an animal wander loose where it could get hurt by any number of things is cruelty to animals, plain and simple. I bet if you could go to jail for turning your animal loose on the neighborhood, there'd be a lot fewer strays running around. |
back when i was with my last g/f, who lived in a redneck farming town, one of the things the kids down there did for fun was go out past the city limits with their .22's and thin the racoon/skunk/stray cat population. not something i approve of, but i know that it happens. kind of sad how people can stoop to doing something that low. i guess it would be too hard for them to use their brains to think of a better solution to stop the cat problem. what a waste of a human brain.
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The only diffulculty would be identifying wether it's a stray, or not.
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I say make it a healthy competition and shoot the birds instead, and see who wins.. The cats or the People.
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Or you could just head out and try to catch the little buggers by hand. See how many "useless" cats you can pick up then. My guess would be none.
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I was hoping for more talk than emotion, but I suppose it is a harsh subject. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to study the bird/cat problem and determine if the cats are truly a hazard? And wouldn't corrective action start with live-trapping vs. execution? I'm no fan of strays but this seems a little extreme unless some bird species are nearly extinct because of the cats.
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Okay, here's one for cat lovers. Reminds me of those Gary Larson deer hunter/hunted cartoons:
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I live in WI and this had become quite the topic of coversation in the past few days. It boils down to cats which irresponsible or non caring owners have tossed out reproducing and surviving like any other animal. Problem is that cats are very efficient hunters and have really damaged natural popluations of game animals in the area. I work nites and do a lot of driving in rural areas, in the summer I'd be willing be bet there is rarely a night I don't see 15-20 cats along the roads. I see way more cats than I do skunks or racoons.
The problem I see in the present law is that a person can be charged with cruelty to animals for shooting a cat, even if it is done in a humane manner. They should be seen as more of a nuisance animal and treated the same. Beleive me, I'm not into shooting your pet, I have dogs and can relate to how one gets attached, but I have to monitor what they do and where they go. |
And exactly how bacd can it be in Iron County, MI, that you need to arm yourself for cooking??? thats messed up.
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Though I dislike cats, i think that just shooting them is 'an easy way out' of the cat problem. Other things could be done to control their population, and the effects they have on the environment.
As well, I agree that owners should become more responsible of their pets... |
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But we also have serious programs, city- and county-wide, for spaying domestic animals and capturing and adopting strays. As a result, we don't have much of a stray cat problem. As Memalvada says, owners should be responsible for their pets, but the real good gets done when the community takes care of the responsibility. Communities that don't, well, they just turn a blind eye and let Cousin Jethro and his .22 and six-pack take care of the problem. That's a lazy, immoral, and cruel solution. |
I don't think that hunting cats is a viable solution, as we've seen in this thread there are some strong emotions behind both sides, so I can imagine the "revenge" actions and/or legislation. I believe that it should be mandatory to have pets fixed to avoid the surplus that we are seeing now. Special permits could be given to breeders and those who have proven themselves to be responsible pet owners.
Too many people get pets on a whim, that is the problem. They don't have the slightest idea about pet care or even about selecting a pet that would be a good fit for their home, personality or budget. |
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In my neck of the woods, a local mountain lion takes care of stray cats and small dogs. If you let your pets run free, the mountain lion sees them as dinner. It just comes with the territory. Maybe we just need to export a few to Wisconsin?
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as far as shooting an animal as being crule, if i had anyanimal that was not going to live i would put it down with one shot. i would not wit untill morning and take it to the vet.
I grew up aroung the whole farm scene, and somethings you just have to deal with. SOME FARMERS used catch the cats and wrap rubber bands around their nuts.... other farmers would shoot them. i live in pennsylvania, but if i lived in wisconsin and these cats were taking over MY property killing my pets or livestock (whatever) or even crapping on everything i would take care of it. trapping and relocating is not an answer. if you see kittens fine take them to a shelter, but older cats that lived outside will never be indoor cats |
Can I shoot the mailman too? I hate bills!
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then sure go ahead |
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i shot him with a bb gun to warn him, but i told him next time i better not catch him crapping on my car or scratching at it
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