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Bill O'Rights 11-22-2004 09:16 AM

Are you video gameless?
 
This post http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...34&postcount=4
In this thread http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=76579
made me smile. For, you see...I also do not allow video games into my house. Of course, my daughter believes me to be Torquemada reincarnated, as we have to be "the only family on this planet that doesn't have at least a nintendo." So, this new development now begs the question...how many others out there do not own, or allow, video game systems? I know that we've got to be the minority, to be sure...but I'm just curious as to how many there are.

Ustwo 11-22-2004 09:37 AM

My PC is part video game system, so does that count?

lpj8 11-22-2004 09:43 AM

When I was a kid, my parents didn't like buying video games, but they eventually caved when I turned about 12. Of course, I wanted every system to ever come out, but my parents would usually make me chose one every few years. When I hit college, I pretty much bought them all, which ruined my freshman year. Some video games, although the minority, are very educational. I think we underutilize video games for instructional purposes. Having video games in a house with kids can be very beneficial and harmful. On one hand, the video games can be used as a powerful reinforcer for good behavior (All homework finished before 7:00pm). In the past I have worked with children with ADHD, and the promise of 5 minutes of video game time was the best way for me to get the kids to work for 15 minutes.
On the other hand, if not adequately supervised, kids can play video games for days at a time.

f6twister 11-22-2004 09:56 AM

I have a few different systems but they are all old. The newest system I have is the N64. I'm still working on a few games which I never finished. After I got married and my son was born, I find myself lacking time for video games.

tropple 11-22-2004 09:58 AM

I bought two for my daughter.

I don't like consoles and can't be bothered playing unless she asks (infrequently, thank goodness).

I have better ways to spend my time (re: porn addiction thread elsewhere on TFP) ;-)

Paradise Lost 11-22-2004 10:06 AM

Other than the computer, I don't even play Console video games anymore. Especially up at school (this thing wastes all my time for me, I don't have anymore to waste on games.) Besides, I haven't really been interested in Console Games since Goldeneye 64.
Books are my video games now.

So most likely when/if I get a family, etc, I'll allow computers, but stress books more.

asshopo 11-22-2004 11:18 AM

I voted "I've got a few different systems." because I have my PS2 and my PC.

For the most part my oldest isn't ready for video games yet, she's only 5. My other girl is 2 1/2 and doesn't know what shes doing, but she likes to try. They play educational games (Blues Clues, Dora, Nick Jr's site) on the PC and the 5 year old also plays on "doll dressup" sites. I have no problems with video games as long as it doesn't take over your life in any way. As in, I won't go GTA on the freeway.

The scary thing is, the 5 yr old just asked me the other night when she could have a computer for her desk :)

Stompy 11-22-2004 11:18 AM

I've had everything. NES, SNES, Gameboy, PSX... PC, you name it.

My brother (lives w/ my mom) has PS2 and Gamecube with tons of games. I encourage video game use. The majority of people grow up fine, it's up to the parent to limit playing.

If I didn't have video games, I wouldn't be the successful programmer I am today.

I did nothing but play video games growing up. When I became a teenager, I was curious as to how they were made - from there, taught myself programming, got a career at 17, and today, at 23, I'm doing quite well.

Putting myself through college, bought a house. Everything is great - all because of video games.

My aunt was a nutcase who refused to get a TV in their house. God forbid your kids have some fun... "When I was a kid, we had fun playing with STICKS AND STRING!" - your kids must do the same cuz it worked for you!

skier 11-22-2004 11:57 AM

While stompy may have done well with video games in his house, it was pretty much the opposite for me. I would level up characters for hours every day on my computer- playing video games was an escape from reality for me. In the end I realized how foolish it was but it did take up a lot of my time when i was young.

thriolith 11-22-2004 12:27 PM

I've never had any video game systems. At least I have my computer though.

Redlemon 11-22-2004 12:36 PM

I had an Atari 2600 back in the day, but it didn't get that much use. I don't get much out of twitch games. I have solitare/puzzle type games on my Palm handheld. My son is 2, so it hasn't come up yet; I'd prefer not to get him a console system.

In summary: 'other'

The Prophet 11-22-2004 01:05 PM

No video games and no television service (satelite, broadcast or cable), though we do have broadband internet, and we do own a Television set and a VCR. We use internet daily (though not to excess), and watch maybe a dozen movies a year (mostly classics, a few new releases.)

I don't know how anyone has time to play games or watch TV. Considering the shit that is on TV these days, I don't know why anyone would want to watch TV. My 17-year-old daughter has never bitched about not having a game system and has never asked for one. I told her when she leaves she can take the TV/VCR with her and she declined.

We spend time (the little we find) reading or writing. And with the huge number of excellent literature already written, I don't see my situation ever changing.

SaltPork 11-22-2004 01:14 PM

Nothing other than the computer and that's fine. The only games we buy for the kids are educational...of course, the games I buy for myself are also educational, like Doom3, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, NFS Underground 2 :)

lukethebandgeek 11-22-2004 01:21 PM

[QUOTE=The Prophet] My 17-year-old daughter has never bitched about not having a game system and has never asked for one.QUOTE]

That's because she's a girl. :lol:

I love videogames. I love them lots. But I also love film and books. And every once and a while, South Park is really funny. When one isn't studying, there isn't much more to do as a college student.

Life_Force 11-22-2004 01:25 PM

I own a P2, Sega Saturn, and several PC games.

I got my first Atari at the age of 11 and have been playing them since.
My mom was the coolest growing up because she would get involved and play them with us. It was good quality time and not a bad tool for sharpening the hand eye coordination skills.

My daugter is now 13 and we play all sorts of games together.

LoganSnake 11-22-2004 01:44 PM

Out of curiocity, why don't you allow video games in the house?

I got my first system (NES) when I was 7 years old, as a present for getting straight As in the first grade. It did not hinder my social life in any way, as I preferred friends to videogames anyday, nor did I slump down on my grades. I continued getting As. If social and educational are your reasons for not getting your kids a videogame system, then you're just depriving your kids of mindless fun, and often education material, that they could be having with their friends or alone.

Of course, I am not questioning your parenting, just stating my opinion. I'd still like to know why you don't allow them in your house.

Right now I own a NES, SNES, N64, PS2, and a PC.

tiltedbc 11-22-2004 01:45 PM

These things are like crack cocaine. I'd love to spend all day playing games. That's the problem.

Bad enough I've got the internet and all that it serves up for free.

RolandGilead 11-22-2004 01:47 PM

When I was a child my parents never allowed me to have a console, except a gameboy.
Now I am 22 and in the last 4 months I bought a NES, a SNES and a Gamecube!
Of course I own the GBA SP, too.
So much about "I won`t let my child play with this brain-destructing rubbish";
I don`t have time for my studies now, since I have to play all these old games now.

ratbastid 11-22-2004 02:26 PM

I have an XBox and an N64. And no kids. I'm pretty much the gamer in our house--and I'm not even very hardcore. lurkette's into Zelda titles, but she doesn't care enough to get a gamecube.

amonkie 11-22-2004 03:40 PM

Growing up, we had the original Nintendo, and the following rules for use: We could only use it on rainy days. Now, I live in Arizona, where it's sunny about 360 days of the year. And when it DOES rain, it doesn't last for very long. My brother ended up winning a PS2 at a New Years Eve thing last year, so that's the only recent videogame addition we have.

present_future 11-22-2004 05:43 PM

I've got a PS2, but I hardly play it. When I do, it's usually sports games.

MooseODV 11-22-2004 05:52 PM

I have a PS2, SNES, and NES. However, just about the only one I ever play is Tetris on the NES. Right now though they're all in a box gathering dust.

MSD 11-22-2004 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
For, you see...I also do not allow video games into my house

You are evil and negligent as a parent :p :D

/me looks at his box containing no less than 400 games fore the original Nintendo alone, plus the stacks of Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, Playstation, PS2, and computer games strewn around the room.

powerclown 11-22-2004 07:44 PM

Oh hell no, I'm not videogameless.
Wasn't it Al Franken who once said, "Video games are proof that God loves Us, and wants Us to be happy"?

LIMilf 11-22-2004 09:50 PM

Right now I just have my PS2 and I play mostly sport games on it. I like the playing people online feature. Hell of an advance considering 10 years ago I was blowing in my nintendo cartriges to try to get them to work.

Grancey 11-22-2004 10:30 PM

I am soooo video gameless. When my niece and nephew come visit, they have to bring the whole shebang with them.

I cannot relate, because I was not raised that way. I read books, not cheat codes. I played whiffle ball and basketball until dinner time, and when my mom wasn't home I bounced tennis balls off the side of the house.

I just don't get it. These kids have no outdoor activities. They don't read books. They have no social skills. It's all about the video games. I've worked in media and computer technology for years, so I am aware of the attraction and the addiction. But we have to provide and enforce diversity for these kids today.

ibis 11-23-2004 12:35 AM

I think their a waste of time. I used to love them when I was younger... now they just make me dizzy.

Prince 11-23-2004 01:14 AM

Don't worry, you're not the only tightarse out there. I used to know one dad who would not even allow a television set in his home. Then again he was a religious nut, you cannot expect any sensible behaviour from them anyway.

I don't agree with your values, but as such I try to respect them. Personally, I'd never go that far. Mobile phones, computers, video games, television, Internet...all of these things are "bad for kids", depending on which source you listen to. But they are also a very strong part of our culture, and it is only natural that your children display an interest in these things. Completely prohibiting the incorporation of such things in their lives seems rather inane to me.

Each to their own, of course.

LoganSnake 11-23-2004 05:36 AM

Not to be rude or anything, but it is the fault of a parent, and not of a child, that they play videogames all day without going outside or reading books. You've got to set the rules and appoint appropriate punishments. Completely leaving your kids without a console to pass free time on is pretty weak. I mean, I've already brought myself as an example. If your kid is active, has lots of friends, likes to play outside, then bringing a videogame system into the house (or a TV *sigh*) is pretty harmless. I'm really glad I didn't have some of you as parents (no TVs, damn).

Evil Milkman 11-23-2004 08:09 AM

I've got a few systems, only play them once in a while.

ARTelevision 11-23-2004 08:33 AM

I have no interest in using technology for this sort of thing.

Zeraph 11-23-2004 11:12 AM

Video games, drinking, drugs, they can all be abused. Shielding your child from them will not make a better person, if they would abuse drugs and they don't have access to them then they will abuse something else.

Though I'm not saying not to structure your children's lives or give them discipline. Limiting their TV watching is OK, and probably good. Having no TV at all is not OK.

And FYI I fall under the "I have one system, and that's plenty." Which happens to be my PC. I've been playing video games since atari and some of the first real :) computer games (Doom, Wolfenstein 3D) and I've learned a lot from them. There can be quite a bit of skill and strategy involved that you just can't learn in many other places. As well as them being a cheap, non dangerous activity I can turn to just about whenever I need stress relief or have some time to kill.

EDIT: And oh, to drive my point in more, I turned out OK I think. School wise I've gotten straight A's since 7th grade (on my 2nd year of college now). Physical wise I'm fairly active, never been over wieght, played sports, am a martial artist, hike, paintball, ski, etc. And of course the only thing that really matters is that I'm happy. Again my point is, it's the person that makes the person, not video games, drugs, etc. It's not what you do, but how you do it. OK I think I'm done now... :)

StephenSa 11-23-2004 12:07 PM

I have an SNES, N64, a Playstation, Playstation 2, and three computers. I used to be quite addicted to gaming but now often go for months without playing. For me it was never really a problem. It filled the time and was better then hitting the bar and drinking. As long as it doesn't get in the way of school work or other responsibilities its fine. Of course ita also perfectly alright to have none. To each his own...

Rodney 11-23-2004 02:23 PM

Never, nor any computer game that is very complicated. To me, a game is something to fit into a five-minute break while working, for a change of pace. And for that, I usually play a simple Flash or Java game off the web: Squares 2, Bookworm, things like that.

An evening spent with video games is a waste, worse that watching sitcoms.

dbc 11-23-2004 02:29 PM

I play a lot of video games, I know people think they are a "waste" but I don't really think anything has much of a point. Video games help the time pass.

Tracybrian 11-23-2004 02:30 PM

The one and only reason I have no playstation is because I waste will waste all of my waking hours consumed by it. I think that when we retire we will be the first seniors to take advantage of video games and free time. I plan on playing GTA3 well into my 90s

spindles 11-23-2004 08:36 PM

I'm assuming you aren't talking PC games. I do that, but don't have a console and don't want one. The type of games I like (RTS, RPG) are just not that good / not going to work well on consoles.

Consoles are (IMHO) focussed on shooters which I hate and driving games which I'm hopeless at :)

jizzmasterp 11-23-2004 08:57 PM

I've got an xbox and my laptop running in my dorm room.

quadro2000 11-24-2004 08:39 AM

During those "formative" years (maybe 9-12) when everybody in town had Nintendo, my parents (mainly my father) wouldn't allow it. I was pretty pissed at the time. Eventually, around 14 or 15, they let me buy a Game Boy but were somewhat strict about how often I could use it.

However, because I never really became "addicted" to video games as a kid, eventually the interest waned. I would play linear games (like the first few Mario Bros) at friends' houses, but it was never much fun because they were so much better than I was. After a few years, I stopped using the Game Boy as well.

I'm really happy, looking back, that my father limited my usage of it. My brother had it a little easier - he has a PS2 now but he doesn't use it to excess at all. I have a SuperNES in the house but I almost never hook it up. While I do think it'd be fun to have an outlet like that, I don't understand how my friends sit up and play all through the night. Just not my thing. And it obviously saves me a lot of money in games.

The Internet, on the other hand.... :rolleyes:

jimk 11-24-2004 09:57 AM

i got nothin'
 
i've got a 5-year old, so i'm holding off the inevitable for as long as i can.

Stiltzkin 11-28-2004 10:12 AM

Videogames are actually useful if played responsibly. For example, just by playing lots of Squaresoft RPG's I have increased my vocabulary (because they tend to throw out lots of obscure words in the dialogue of those games) and I actually pause the game, grab my dictionary to look up them words, then resume the game with a better understanding of what's going on.

Also, if your child is not athletically inclined, playing a first-person shooter might keep them from losing all their reflexes. I realize most people don't see videogames this way, but I know for a fact that I would be less of a person today if I had never played videogames, ONLY because I know how to be responsible with videogames, meaning I don't get addicted to games and let them get in the way of my studying or other important parts of my life.

When I have kids some day, I'll definitely introduce them to videogames and how to be responsible videogamers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tracybrian
I think that when we retire we will be the first seniors to take advantage of video games and free time. I plan on playing GTA3 well into my 90s

I've set aside a "videogames trust fund for after retirement" already for this exact reason.

:thumbsup:

JustDisGuy 11-28-2004 02:24 PM

We bought an XBox in no small part to keep the kids that visit us from wanting to install and play games on our computer. They get their games, and I get a computer that's relatively reliable. :)

Of course, once we got it I had to play with it and now I'm afraid I spend a bit too much time playing around with it. Not playing games on it mind, but playing with the system itself. It's actually basically a computer that you can do all sorts of things with, including loading and playing all the old arcade roms on, or playing your MP3 collection over your stereo. It's kind of addictive... ;)

FngKestrel 11-29-2004 12:31 AM

I don't think it's fair to demonize all video games. Video games are a form of media and entertainment that you can't hide from, so I feel that it's better to expose your children while you still have some sort of direct interaction with them and can give them a chance to understand your perspective on things and decide for themselves, tempered with your attitudes towards it. On the flipside of things, it's not appropriate to desensitize your children towards things like violence and swearing, which more and more video games seem to be embracing.

It's similar to things like movies. Would you let your kids go see an R film? How much do you know about the movies that they go see? How much do you know about the games your kids are playing?

merkerguitars 11-29-2004 01:01 AM

I have a PC but actually don't use it alot for gaming...every once and awhile I'll be a hardcore gamer for about a month and then back off for about a couple of months. Last console I owned myself was a Sega Genesis. Every once in a while i'll end up playing ps2 at cause my roomates nephew spends the night to hang out with his uncle and play games for awhile or end up playing Xbox at a LAN party.

Baron Opal 11-29-2004 02:39 AM

I have my computer, no need of a console. Plus, I don't really have time to play said games. I have one that I am interested in, but it doesn't perform well on the computer that I have. next year sometime I'm going to upgrade, and then I'll be able to play my game.

keyshawn 11-30-2004 02:15 PM

my video game console Timeline:
NES ? - 1993/4
genesis - 1st Communion [2nd grade, 95] - 97 [literally, my dog urinated on the console, and it ceased to work....all of my friends think that's the funniest thing ever].
PS1 1997-2001
PS2 2001 - ?
Dreamcast Yesterday - ?
[PC 1996 - ?][Though until junior high it was limited to educational software and pac-man]

A healthy balance between video games and outdoor activity seem to be quite rare nowadays for adolescence, according to the fellow posters. Growing up, I think I've received a good balance and continued to do so. [18 here] Nor do I think it's that difficult to have one.
I recall days of playing whiffle ball by myself all afternoon in the summer, riding bike with friends and spending a majority of the afternoon outside; yet still occasionally playing video games.
Fortunately, my parents were somewhat frugal with the new video game technology, and was forced to spend my own money for them, save for a christmas gift.
During high school, my video game time has decreased quite a bit, and usually I wait until about 9 months or so after the game's release to buy it. The value of a video game to me, now, is probably only worth $15-20.
The dreamcast, I just received yesterday [bought it online last week] to play the more unique games that it has [jet grind radio, rez, and many more]. I'm frustrated that the video game community hasn't matured as much as I expected or hoped. More titles like 'beyond good and evil.' would help the gamers whose tastes have become more refined, to stay with video games for entertainment.

Coppertop 11-30-2004 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
This post http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...34&postcount=4
In this thread http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=76579
made me smile. For, you see...I also do not allow video games into my house. Of course, my daughter believes me to be Torquemada reincarnated, as we have to be "the only family on this planet that doesn't have at least a nintendo." So, this new development now begs the question...how many others out there do not own, or allow, video game systems? I know that we've got to be the minority, to be sure...but I'm just curious as to how many there are.

Regarding the post you linked to, I always loved books. I've read more books than anyone else I know. I also played outside everyday when I was younger and the weather allowed. I had a bike I'd ride with my friends. We'd explore all over my neighborhood. We played baseball and football in the street. I would go swimming in my pool in the summer. I also played video games. Hell, I play them now. My kids will play them too most likely. And I am a (reasonably) well adjusted adult.

Besides, video games like Splinter Cell can teach you the best place to hide the bodies! :thumbsup:

MooseMan3000 11-30-2004 02:28 PM

I had a Nintendo as a kid, and I loved it. My mother hated it. My dad bought a few games, but she never did. She hated the fact that I enjoyed playing Nintendo. After that system broke, she refused to get another one. So what happened? I became a video game junkie. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, it's just the truth.

When I went to college, I built my own computer and have (roughly) 20 or so games installed, several others laying around. Last summer I bought a GameCube and have since bought maybe 20 or so games for that. My favorite way to spend a Saturday night is at a LAN party, or at a friend's house playing Soul Calibur.

Despite my mother's constant attempts to make me adopt her lifestyle (read: newage quasi-hippy massage therapist mountain bike addict), the simple fact is I enjoy other things. I have nothing against mountain biking, and I rather enjoy rollerblading, but my lifestyle is not hers, no matter how hard she tries. Ultimately her refusal to hav video games in her house made no difference to me.

Sbudda 12-01-2004 10:28 AM

Let's see.... I've had An Atari 2600, the NES, the Super NES, the Nintendo 64, the PlayStation, the PlayStation 2, the Gamecube, the Dreamcast, the Gameboy and the Gameboy Advance. I think that's it. Oh yeah, and more computers than you can shake a stick at (for a total of 6 PC's and 2 laptops over the course of my life).

Despite all of this I still played sports, I did very well in school (and when I did poorly it was due to women, not games), and have gainful employment. In fact, when you have all of these systems and your parents only bought one of them (ahh 1986), being gainfully employed was the way that I was able to accumulate these systems. It taught me the value of a dollar (most of my systems are pawn shop systems), the value of hard work, and the value of getting everything done that I needed to get done before I started playing.

At the same time, it gave me something to play with my parents - my father was pretty old and couldn't really play basketball with me, but we had a great time playing Double Dribble back in the day. The old NES version of Jeopardy! was a good family game too.

Now I've had my share of marathon sessions trying to beat the latest Final Fantasy, and up until a few months ago I was part of a gaming clan that competed in FPS games that took up a few hours a week. But never was it a problem, I simply played while my wife watched 7th Heaven (I hate that this is allowed in my house).

My hand eye coordination is amazing. There was a study that proved that surgeons that played at least 6 hours a week had fewer mistakes with endoscopic surgery. The Army uses a number of FPS games to teach the value of squad manuver and command structure. As a person who was always interested in figuring out how things worked, playing games got me interested in game development, and later enterprise level computer programming - which is what I do now.

It is my opinion that people who choose to shield their children away from different aspects of life are doing the children a great disservice by not allowing them to find a moderate position when they make decisions on their own. I would never suggest that games are the end all be all solution for people - but I wouldn't suggest hiding it as if it were a bad thing either. I was forbidden to watch horror movies as a child, but my wife was forced to watch them all when she was a little kid. Guess who still gets scared at those movies today (that would be me).

Right now I live far away from my parents, but every now and again I can still pop in Tiger Woods and play a game of golf with my Dad over the Internet. I would think this would be a difficult thing to do had we not bonded over games like this in my early childhood.

Don't you hate it when you get quite far in your post and forget what the origonal poster was talking about? Ah well, this should be my cue to stop then.

Sbudda 12-01-2004 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keyshawn
The dreamcast, I just received yesterday [bought it online last week] to play the more unique games that it has [jet grind radio, rez, and many more].

If you've just gotten a DreamCast, you might find this site extremely interesting.
http://www.dcemulation.com/

The idea is you can burn old NES games (and other old console and arcade games) to a disk and play them on your DreamCast. This includes all of the classic games, translated versions of foreign games, and hacked versions of games like Super Afro Bros (a mildly amusing version of SMB). It will also play movies and MP3's and all of that good stuff - including Linux.

My wife particularly enjoyed played Rygar on it. The origonal version had no save or password feature, but when playing the game on the DreamCast, you can save the state of the game to the memory card and come back anytime to continue. The DreamCast is a modder's delight.

See what playing games can teach you? :rolleyes:

FngKestrel 12-01-2004 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sbudda
My hand eye coordination is amazing. There was a study that proved that surgeons that played at least 6 hours a week had fewer mistakes with endoscopic surgery. The Army uses a number of FPS games to teach the value of squad manuver and command structure. As a person who was always interested in figuring out how things worked, playing games got me interested in game development, and later enterprise level computer programming - which is what I do now.

There's a mailing list I'm on that tries to explore more educational uses for games and looking at the applications that promote that. America's Army developed by the Army has been one of the more effective promotional tools to come out.

Serious Games if you're interested.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sbudda
It is my opinion that people who choose to shield their children away from different aspects of life are doing the children a great disservice by not allowing them to find a moderate position when they make decisions on their own. I would never suggest that games are the end all be all solution for people - but I wouldn't suggest hiding it as if it was a bad thing either. I was forbidden to watch horror movies as a child, but my wife was forced to watch them all when she was a little kid. Guess who still gets scared at those movies today (that would be me).

Hear hear!

Lebell 12-01-2004 11:00 AM

The last console system I got was an Atari 2600...and I still have it. All my gaming since has been on PC. Still, they kids have a Nintendo around here somewhere, but obviously I don't play it.

Lefty04 12-01-2004 12:59 PM

My kids had a Playstation, then went to X-Box. After two X-Boxes died (couldn't read the disks), we went back to Playstation 2.

Sbudda 12-01-2004 01:15 PM

this might interest you

http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/dvd_drive.htm
(how to repair a bad DVD drive on an xbox)

Jonsgirl 12-02-2004 04:13 PM

Several systems. We now own 2 ps2s. and A Gamecube. And the computer. At some point after I get home (March 05) we'll pick up an X-box.

Kalnaur 12-02-2004 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill O'Rights
This post http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...34&postcount=4
In this thread http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=76579
made me smile. For, you see...I also do not allow video games into my house. Of course, my daughter believes me to be Torquemada reincarnated, as we have to be "the only family on this planet that doesn't have at least a nintendo." So, this new development now begs the question...how many others out there do not own, or allow, video game systems? I know that we've got to be the minority, to be sure...but I'm just curious as to how many there are.

So my question is why do you not want video games in your house? I ask this because I am aiming my carrer at the video game field, perhaps even starting my own game company, and want to know why the "no thanks" demographic says "no thanks".

Tidus 12-02-2004 10:26 PM

Got a PS, PS2 and a PC.^_^

Ganguro 12-07-2004 10:04 PM

I finally bit the bullet and got an xbox after seeing one for sale at under a hundred dollars and having a birthday come up. I got my ps2 free with my cellphone, and bought the gamecube for a xmas presnt for my parents a few years ago, then stole it from them. Heck my girlfriend just bought her mom a gamecube and mario kart:DD for her birthday.

As long as I can remember I've been raised and encouraged to use entertainment technology responsibly. My parents were big videogame nuts when I was a kid and I can remember getting up in the middle of the night seeing mommy play centipede on the Atari 2600, or 5200 and dad beat Ms. Packman over and over again. I remember fondly as a family sitting around playing duckhunt, mario, and pictionary on the NES. I remember how proud my parents were when I made a wheel of fortune knock off on our old 286. I remember playing Oregon Trail and learning about history and fur trapping in the first grade and wanting to read about these things after playing the game. I remember retoring old arcade cabinets in the garage with my dad. Gaming has been good to me and my family. My parents are near 60 and will play DDR with me at on holidays. The entire family (even my grandma who is over 85) will sit down and play bomberman after a good Xmas or thanksgiving dinner.

As long as I live, and as long as there are good games out there I will always support gaming and other entertaining technologies as ways to bring people together.

jon_264 12-08-2004 12:34 AM

I've only got one console (PS2) and would definitely consider buying an XBox if I had the time and money to make it worthwhile. I don't seem to get as much time to play the PS2 as I'd like as I have a young son who takes up a lot of my time.

Slavakion 12-08-2004 03:40 AM

NES, Genesis, PSX, N64, PS2, GC, GBC, Game Gear, PC. I like video games, yes. But i don'tplay them as often as I used to. Every now and then something will absorb my attention for a few weeks. Other than that, it's spotty.

splck 12-08-2004 06:26 AM

Don't own any... never have, never will.
I find them boring.

TexanAvenger 12-08-2004 05:03 PM

While I've played a few games, the only system I own is my Atari 2600... Well, up until I found that text-based game thread in Tilted Nonsense anyway...

DeterminedPower 12-08-2004 08:58 PM

1.) Started off with the Pong paddles that you hooked to the TV
2.) Atari after that
3.) TI (learned to program on this pup)
4.) Commodore 128
5.) DOS based PC, did a lot of gaming on that
6.) Sega
7.) Now, I just use a PC and play mostly online poker and some FPS

Looking at getting a XBox or a PS2. I miss playing Madden NFL Football that I got addicted to on Sega.

piesen 12-08-2004 09:24 PM

I just have a pc and that is enough for me, play mostly FPS games and poker

omega2K4 12-11-2004 10:55 AM

I've got too many video games systems to list. When and if I have kids, we're definately going to game together.

Xenomorph 12-12-2004 09:24 PM

Some games can be used to great educational and/or practical effect. A lot of people are under the impression that video games are still essentially what they were 20 years ago...tests of reflexes that rewarded the ability to make your little character jump at the right time, or hit the A and B buttons in the right combination to make him do a super punch. This isn't the case.

Some very educational stuff slipped under my radar and got into my brain. I wouldn't touch anything as obvious as "Reader Rabbit" after I was 6 or 7, but games set in historical contexts sometimes managed to be educational. Play "Civilization 3" or "Rome: Total War" for a few hours and try not to learn something. I've forgotten about the strategy game itself in Civ 3's Civilopedia feature, which gives a little 2-page informational blurbs on all sorts of historical figures, technological advancements, military units, significant events, civilizations, and so in. The real Rome, for example, seems much more interesting after you've been playing as the digital one for a few hours.

Text-based online games are a good way to improve both writing skills and typing speed. Some of them are just timesink roleplaying games about playing 12 hours a day until your elf wizard is level 100, but some are creative and even literary. Elendor, a Tolkien-based MUSH at www.elendor.net, has helped me improve my writing ability quite significantly. MUDs and such have been around for a while. My parents were caught off guard when my 7th grade keyboarding teacher said I was the quickest in the class, and it wouldn't have happened if I was booted outside every day until I was 13.

I do acknowledge that it can be a serious distraction, and I've seen most of my fellow gamers dodge school and work-related responsibilites for a bit more gaming time. I've done it myself. I've even seen some people get very seriously addicted to those games that can be played for literally days on end without coming to any sort of a conclusion. I've seen people fail out of college playing poker, watching TV, and drinking, too. The argument that games are potentially addictive isn't enough to stop me from playing them any more than it would keep away from a night of cards, a good show, or a couple beers.

I play a bunch of games and I hope if I have any kids I'll be able to enjoy them with the little buggers in the same way that I will playing catch or kicking a soccer ball around.

Suave 12-13-2004 01:52 AM

I personally believe that denying a child something that is considered normal to have by other children is a negative thing, even if it is a video game system. It may seem superficial, but things like that can lead to marginalization of the children, and no matter how awesome or special your child is, what they want and what is least stressful for them is to fit in. Besides, if you give them a system of some type early, and train them from a young age not to overuse it, they're more likely to listen.

CityOfAngels 12-13-2004 03:47 AM

Here is a list of the videogames systems I've ever owned:

Intellivision (Dad sold it at a yard sale)
Atari 2600 (Dad sold it at a yard sale)
Nintendo (I have three of these. Two are the old versions that don't work anymore, and the other is the top-loading version that's hooked up to my TV right now)
Super Nintendo (Stuffed in my closet. Broken)
Game Boy (Packed away and inoperable)
Game Boy Pocket (Gave it to my friends, who were portable-game-less)
Game Boy Color (Remains in the bathroom, with only Tetris inside it, unless my brother comes over, when he puts Pokemon in)
Game Boy Advance (Currently Playing Dragon Warrior on this)
Sega Master System (Bought this PAL version about a year and a half ago. Was never able to operate it on my NTSC tele)
Sega Genesis (Stopped playing it because it now emits a buzzing sound whenever I operate it)
Sega CD (Stuffed in my closet, connected to my Sega Genesis)
Sega Game Gear (My dad shoved his pocket knife inside it and farked up the screen. Trashed it)
Sega Nomad (Traded this online for my Top-Loading NES system)
Sega Saturn (Stuffed in my closet. Needs some repair, maybe just a replacement connector)
Sega Dreamcast (Stuffed in my closet. It resets at random, so I gave up on it)
Sony Playstation (I went through two of these. My last one I traded in to EB for my Game Boy Advance. Seemed like a rip off then, but it's a deal now)
Sony Playstation 2 (I'm on my third one of these. Currently hooked up to my TV, alongside my top-loading NES)
PC (750 MGHZ Intel Celeron, 19 GB storage, li'l over 200MB RAM, virus/torjan/spyare-filled piece of crap. Typing this message with it now)

I've been playing videogames all of my life. I remember my Uncle giving me my Intellivision, and my favorite games on that were Burger Time and the Dungeon-Hack-style Dungeons and Dragons game. I was too young to know where my Atari came from, but I remember my favorite game on that was (believe it or not) Strawberry Shortcake. My first brand-new system was my first NES, given to my older brother and I on Christmas morning when I was (I think) four years old. I remember thinking that it came with Zelda packed inside for quite some time, because when my parents wrapped the system, they stuffed Zelda in the NES box.

Ah...the memories. I, for one, do NOT planning on depriving my future kids of the joy of videogames. I plan on playing videogames with them, just like I always wished my father would do with me.

P.S. This thread just gave me an idea. Can anyone say, "TFP Halo 2 party"? Not that we all have to play Halo 2, but any sort of videogame party would be kinda cool.


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