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runawayfetus 02-22-2004 04:45 PM

Some qustions on Marijuana..?
 
hey all, i dont know if this is the right forum, but here goes.

im worried about marijuana. Can you overdose on it? is it easy to do and dangerous?

Im worried because i got alcohal poisening a while ago, and so im concerned about smoking too much or taking too many hits in too short of a time. Is it safe to smoke a lot? averagely i take like .. i dono 10 decent hits, it gets me prety high but i dont think i experience the best of what marijuana can do.

Any help on any of this is appreciated.

thanks

maynard0012 02-22-2004 05:06 PM

You can't overdose on weed, unless it's laced with something. Many times I've smoked until I could physically smoke no more, with no adverse effects. Smoking too much makes your short term memory worse, but a week or two after you stop, it goes away.

Bob Biter 02-22-2004 05:11 PM

The only thing smoking too much pot does is increase your dry cleaning / laundry bills.

I've always favored people who grew it themselves, because I knew where it was coming from and the process they used. I never grew it myself, though, because I'm a lazy bastard (naturally lazy, not because of pot...).

runawayfetus 02-22-2004 05:39 PM

hah k thankss

Rodney 02-22-2004 06:21 PM

In my limited experience, the only way to get so much marijuana in you that you're basically nonfunctional is to take it in brownie form. Everybody makes the same damn mistake the first time: they eat one and nothing happens (because THC when ingested takes longer to take effect), so they have _another_ one. Ten minutes later, both hit at about the same time and BAM.

You do want to know where your weed is coming from; as maynard said, it could be laced with something. Years ago somebody offered me a joint and said it was special in some way. I turned it dowwn. Turned out to be laced with PCP, and everybody who toked off it was seriously sorry that they did.

bigbad 02-23-2004 02:20 AM

Another thing you might have to watch for is smoking resin, I've done it twice and the first time I had to be carried/dragged to the car because I couldn't even walk. The second time they managed to convince me it was the combination of beers and resin that did it, still fucked me up big time though.

sprocket 02-23-2004 02:30 AM

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis.shtml

Read up! If you choose to use drugs, I definately encourage you to know the facts. Erowid has a "slight" bias towards drug use, so view what you read with skepticism. Same goes for government sponsored drug information sites (they just have the opposite bias). The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

The_wall 02-23-2004 11:34 AM

trust me, erowid is far less biased then the government sites.
Government sites are a complete joke.

Nanz 02-23-2004 11:42 AM

You cant die or OD but if you pull a whitey you will feel like shit and probably feel like your dieing but after 15mins or sleep you will be fine.

Long time chronic use can put you in a position worse than death fucking your brain up serverly but thats only if you smoke some ridiculous amount.

runawayfetus 02-23-2004 03:26 PM

ok thanks all

krwlz 02-23-2004 05:44 PM

In the end, I doubt you can smoke enough to permanently fuck your brain up. You will find at some point that each bowl smoked increases your high less and less, and at that point, it no longer becomes worth it.

Jim Kata 02-23-2004 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nanz
Long time chronic use can put you in a position worse than death fucking your brain up serverly but thats only if you smoke some ridiculous amount.
Thats BS!! I smoke all the time and I aren't burnt. :lol:

Dragonlich 02-24-2004 10:32 AM

My brother used to smoke weed for years, and he's seriously fucked up. Not necessarily because of the drugs, but it didn't help his situation at all.

Perhaps weirdos are more likely than "normal people" to use drugs, which leads to the general population seeing drug users as having weird problems because of the drugs. :)

moonstrucksoul 02-24-2004 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim Kata
Thats BS!! I smoke all the time and I aren't burnt. :lol:
how can you say that? Dude your eyes are bleeding, http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/avatar....ine=1068575497

02-24-2004 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dragonlich
My brother used to smoke weed for years, and he's seriously fucked up. Not necessarily because of the drugs, but it didn't help his situation at all.
Perhaps weirdos are more likely than "normal people" to use drugs, which leads to the general population seeing drug users as having weird problems because of the drugs. :)

lol, no offense but I have to laugh here. First of all, you are perhaps right about the drugs not being why he is fucked up. Weed alone can't fuck you up unless it's laced or you are doing other drugs with it.
But wierdos and normal people? lmao. There is no such thing. There are people with issues and people without issues. Those with issues are the ones we call fucked up, but we can't blame them, although they can choose to get out of the rut they are in, but sometimes their issues are deeper than bones, but never deep enough to get out of.
I smoke weed almost every day, once a day, and I have no issues. I have a wonderful family, great husband, and a beautiful son. Life is alright, I am happy, I choose to smoke to let loose at night, but I don't depend on it. Does this make me a wierdo? Nah. Just a person with no issues who enjoys the gonja. ;)

MSD 02-27-2004 11:10 AM

Smoking 6 pounds in an hour won't OD a 180lb male, you'll be fine. A friend of mine tried with his bowl that can hold 1/4lb, because he wanted to test the theory that an OD would require smoking your body wieght in an hour.

Laced with other stuff, you're going to be fucked up.

saltfish 02-27-2004 07:57 PM

Laced, what a joke. If you have ever found someone who sells the nuggets that would be willing add something else in with your nuggets, that's just an added expense. A wise businessman would never consider this practice.

Lacing weed is just another pot-head urban ledgend. You'd be suprised how each different strains of pot can contain different amounts of canabanoids, these can cause differing stimulant/depressant/hallucinagenic effects.

If you've ever grown a quantity of ganga, and have had different indica/sativa strains, you know how they can be wildy different.

The same goes with strychnine in acid and heroine/pcp in ecstacy. It's all urban ledgend.

-SF

floydthebarber 02-28-2004 02:53 AM

I have to agree with saltfish.
I've never seen or heard of anybody buying or consuming laced weed in over twenty years of .....being around people that smoke:cool:

Rodney 02-28-2004 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by floydthebarber
I have to agree with saltfish.
I've never seen or heard of anybody buying or consuming laced weed in over twenty years of .....being around people that smoke:cool:

Well, I have -- but I must admit, it was in the 70s. Maybe we were wild, crazy kids.

The_wall 02-28-2004 12:05 PM

Well I've heard of someone having to go to the hospital because she smoked a lot of weed she didn't know was laced. However thats the only story I've heard around here of laced weed. So pretty much I agree with you saltfish.

xim 02-28-2004 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nanz
You cant die or OD but if you pull a whitey you will feel like shit and probably feel like your dieing but after 15mins or sleep you will be fine.

Long time chronic use can put you in a position worse than death fucking your brain up serverly but thats only if you smoke some ridiculous amount.

EDITED BECAUSE IT WAS TOO MEAN

Crunchy Nipple 03-01-2004 01:54 AM

I have been offerd to buy pot that reeked strongly of amonina. The odor was strongest on the inside of the sack. I was told this was to keep the drug dogs from sniffing it out. Sounds like bullshit to me.
Anyway.

-J

jay-g 03-01-2004 02:50 AM

Yeah, you cant overdose on weed. Like everyone has been saying, as long as its not laced. If you drink alcohol and smoke, thats the only way you can get really messed up (hospital messed up). Worst case scenario? You will smoke sooo much, then pass out. Then wake up and eat everything.

Cynthetiq 03-01-2004 11:14 AM

watch the movie GRASS it's been playing on the Sundance Channel lately.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0214730/

runawayfetus 03-02-2004 09:35 PM

hah k willdo

agball 03-10-2004 11:04 AM

Dude, 10 hits is more than enough unless you want to fall asleep. Weed comes in many different strenghts & varitey. If you get the real good stuff all you need is 2 or 3 hits. If its the Schwag (dirt Weed) you might need 10. I have never heard of anyone OD'ing on weed.

kutulu 03-10-2004 11:21 AM

I've smoked almost every day for almost 10 years with no adverse effects. There can be some dependancy issues if you stop after long time use. I stopped for a week for a DT once and had headaches, night sweats, and I generally felt like shit. Once I took the test (and passed, thanks to stuff from the local headshop) I started smoking again and everything was fine.

Since then I've stopped for a couple weeks at a time and had no side effects so maybe quitting had nothing to do with it.

tim2shady 03-10-2004 12:22 PM

can't OD on weed, but combine other drugs and you may find yourself in trouble......like duh n' shit....

rothman 03-10-2004 05:20 PM

yup, ive never heard of any one having effects other than short term memory loss... nothing too serious tho...

Fenton-J-Cool 03-11-2004 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by saltfish
Laced, what a joke. If you have ever found someone who sells the nuggets that would be willing add something else in with your nuggets, that's just an added expense. A wise businessman would never consider this practice.

Lacing weed is just another pot-head urban ledgend. You'd be suprised how each different strains of pot can contain different amounts of canabanoids, these can cause differing stimulant/depressant/hallucinagenic effects.

If you've ever grown a quantity of ganga, and have had different indica/sativa strains, you know how they can be wildy different.

The same goes with strychnine in acid and heroine/pcp in ecstacy. It's all urban ledgend.
-SF

Word. Cocaine is literally 7-10x more expensive than marijuana. (1g of coke is $80 cdn in my town, 1g of dope is $10.)

Why the hell would anyone do that? No profit boost, and likely no repeat customers from what the PCP/Coke will do to them.

It's like you, a jeweler, selling someone a bronze ring.. but the joke's on them! You melted some gold in it!

Jim Kata 03-12-2004 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rothman
yup, ive never heard of any one having effects other than short term memory loss... nothing too serious tho...
Smoking it is bad for your lungs for sure. Any kind of smoke in your lungs is bad. But other than that I would have to agree with ya rothman.

runawayfetus 03-12-2004 03:17 PM

yea u get to a point where u just dont need to smoke anymroe.. tahts my experience now atleast. The more i smoke the less amount of hits i need to take to get high. and yea its a lot about the quality too

stevie667 03-13-2004 11:36 AM

if i remember correctly, you need to smoke around 32 times you body weight of 15% (high strength weed, low strength skunk/bud) THC ganja to overdose.
however, long before you reach this point, you body initiates poison control measures, making you throw up, urinate and excrete loads, and general lay around feeling like crap. of course, this does nothing for you as the THC is ingested through the lungs and not through the digestive system, but try telling your body that...

it all depends on strength, at the moment there is some 30% THC (thats the kind of stuff that would put bob marley under the table) ganja floating around here, and it is seriously bad for your mental health, along with your lungs.

personally, i'd advise if smoking anything more than your bog standard weed to do it with friends, or watching something funny, because the last thing you want to do is have a harsh trip on cannabis (trust me, when you become that paranoid, you can't even move without having a perfectly clear understanding everything wants to kill you), or throw up (because thats just embarressing).

stevie667 03-13-2004 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrSelfDestruct
Smoking 6 pounds in an hour won't OD a 180lb male, you'll be fine. A friend of mine tried with his bowl that can hold 1/4lb, because he wanted to test the theory that an OD would require smoking your body wieght in an hour.

Laced with other stuff, you're going to be fucked up.

what kind of shit stuff was he smoking?:p
not only must it have been shit for him to get thru it, but he must have lungs the size of zepplins to take it:crazy:

runawayfetus 03-13-2004 12:21 PM

hmm interesting

tekaweni 03-14-2004 04:03 AM

Nah you definitely cant OD on weed.. worst that can happen is you get paranoid enough to *think* you have (especially if you eat it), but like most of your perceptions while stoned - you'll be wrong.

But if you need 10 hits to get high, consider finding a better quality source...

stevie667 03-14-2004 09:08 AM

actually, i say if your not battero within one spliff, you need a better source, 'aint got a fucking clue about all this hit shit.

macmanmike6100 03-20-2004 09:26 AM

you can't overdose per se on marijuana, but make sure that whatever you get is from a "trusted" (whatever that means) source. laced pot could hurt you so watch out for suspicious looking stuff. still, in the couple years i've been doing it, have never gotten a laced ounce.

have fun with it!

orange monkeyee 03-20-2004 10:28 PM

laced bud means your hookup is shadey , if you have a good friend to hookup with, its not gonna happen ( laced shit costs too much money)

blaze on brothea

kalashnikov 03-20-2004 10:52 PM

just dont mix weed and booze...you probably won't die, but you'll feel like you will

orange monkeyee 03-21-2004 07:47 PM

drink a six pack after you get real stoned. Then just wander around your house, amused by everything around you. It makes entertainment out of TV or a piano.

crewsor 03-25-2004 06:00 PM

You will not overdose on weed. You may become dependent enough on it to fuck your life up because you worry more about partying than taking care of what you should be doing. But that holds true for most things, be it alcohol, cocaine, x or whatnot. The big problem is that you won't know if you can handle recreational use untill its too late and then you're screwed. Its your choice and only you can make it. As long as you can do things in moderation, great. But beware, because you could have an addictive personality. Then even a seemingly benign high such as pot can mean trouble.

And as far as it being laced, you probably won't be sold weed thats laced with something stronger or more dangerous, but if you are at a party or something and stuff is being passed around theres certainly no guarantees thats its straight weed. I've seen many a joint spiced with pcp or worse.( sherms)

So bottom line, if you are sure you can handle it responsibly have fun. But do use caution and good sense.

st33lr4t 03-28-2004 07:59 AM

i agree with weed laced with something is pretty much an urban legend. and dont think you will ever OD from smoking pot. in 5 plus years ive gone through my days of smoking copious amounts of marijuana and never had an incedent. only had one friend start tripping out but thats cause he was a nervous kid that had panic attacks.

bermuDa 03-28-2004 11:11 AM

one thing that's not a myth is sprayed weed. Some dealers will spray their product with something like lysol to make it more crystallized. you can smell the difference between sprayed and unsprayed weed. I don't know about the long term effects but I wouldn't be surprised if it was bad for you.

kl0pper 03-29-2004 05:41 AM

they might spray it with raid to add weight
thats bad for you, obviously

The_wall 03-29-2004 01:15 PM

Yeah I think I bought weed sprayed with raid or something, unfortuneatly at the time I hadn't done much reading about drugs and didn't know people did such a thing so I just figured it was bad tasting weed.

splck 03-29-2004 03:45 PM

crap! Where do you guys buy your weed? Perhaps it's time to up your standards and buy some quality smoke or at least grow your own.

I have a hard time believing the spraying Raid for weight story. How much does sprayed Raid weigh?
Sounds like your government hard at work spewing lies yet again.

orange monkeyee 03-29-2004 07:31 PM

i'd like to try and see how much i can toke before I pass out, heh, probably take an hours worth of bong rips and maybe add a forty along with it. hehe

kl0pper 03-30-2004 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by splck
I have a hard time believing the spraying Raid for weight story. How much does sprayed Raid weigh?
Sounds like your government hard at work spewing lies yet again.

i dont know how much it adds
but i know it does happen
just get your stuff from a reputable source and everything should be fine

iamtheone 03-30-2004 10:31 AM

best thing. get all baked and jam on the guitar. Truley inspirational

matthew330 04-02-2004 10:33 AM

...and don't do what I did back in college. If you find a bowl lying on the street don't think "Hey, that'll work much better than my toilet paper roll wrapped in aluminum foil." Or at least clean it first. I know the weed was clean, but the bowl definately had something a little funny in it, luckily we could tell the difference after the first hit.

Jizz-Fritter 04-04-2004 12:04 PM

One of the advantages of living in a rural state is that more times than not, you know who grew it and where. Marijuana feels a lot safer in Kentucky.

BigTruck1956 04-07-2004 10:56 PM

People laced weed all the time back home ususally with PCP and now a days crank so they could cut it without "sacraficing" the trip... stayed away from that shit....

MrSelfDestruct, my jaw literally dropped. I canno even concieve smoking a pound, let alone 6, in one sitting.....

Jim Kata 04-08-2004 05:02 AM

Wouldn't you be able to tell if the weed was laced because of the price? What kind of drug dealer is gonna give you more drugs than you want for free? That makes no sense....or maybe this post doesn't make sense.

jay-g 04-08-2004 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by :::OshnSoul:::
lol, no offense but I have to laugh here. First of all, you are perhaps right about the drugs not being why he is fucked up. Weed alone can't fuck you up unless it's laced or you are doing other drugs with it.
But wierdos and normal people? lmao. There is no such thing. There are people with issues and people without issues. Those with issues are the ones we call fucked up, but we can't blame them, although they can choose to get out of the rut they are in, but sometimes their issues are deeper than bones, but never deep enough to get out of.
I smoke weed almost every day, once a day, and I have no issues. I have a wonderful family, great husband, and a beautiful son. Life is alright, I am happy, I choose to smoke to let loose at night, but I don't depend on it. Does this make me a wierdo? Nah. Just a person with no issues who enjoys the gonja. ;)

But you do have to admit, smoking weed does give you short term....ummm...what was i saying?

floydthebarber 04-08-2004 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim Kata
Wouldn't you be able to tell if the weed was laced because of the price? What kind of drug dealer is gonna give you more drugs than you want for free? That makes no sense....
That's kinda what I think. I'm going to sell you some lead, but before you buy it I'm going to sprinkle a bit of silver on it. WTF?

I still say laced weed is more of an urban legend started by a government lie. I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

Jim Kata 04-08-2004 05:46 AM

I think when they talk about laced weed they mean that the growers put some sort of feeders or chemicals on them to make them bigger and better looking. But I think a lot of growers love the plants so much that they only use organic products with it.
So smoke em if you got em.

stevie667 04-08-2004 06:06 AM

laced gear is usually only an occurence when dealt by people looking to make a quick buck.
buy a few grams of cannabis, bulk it up with mixed herbs and god knows what else, sell it at 10x the price you bought it at, and hope you don't get beaten up.

nate_dawg 04-09-2004 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevie667
if i remember correctly, you need to smoke around 32 times you body weight of 15% (high strength weed, low strength skunk/bud) THC ganja to overdose.
however, long before you reach this point, you body initiates poison control measures, making you throw up, urinate and excrete loads, and general lay around feeling like crap. of course, this does nothing for you as the THC is ingested through the lungs and not through the digestive system, but try telling your body that...

it all depends on strength, at the moment there is some 30% THC (thats the kind of stuff that would put bob marley under the table) ganja floating around here, and it is seriously bad for your mental health, along with your lungs.

personally, i'd advise if smoking anything more than your bog standard weed to do it with friends, or watching something funny, because the last thing you want to do is have a harsh trip on cannabis (trust me, when you become that paranoid, you can't even move without having a perfectly clear understanding everything wants to kill you), or throw up (because thats just embarressing).

have a harsh trip on cannabis? weed isnt much of a hallucinogen, so i'm not too sure about that.

i think if you're THAT paranoid when you toke, then maybe you've got some other issues, or you're consuming other substances.

its just weed dude, start something serious then tell me about being paranoid

junglistic 04-09-2004 12:23 PM

I can see where the stevie's coming from. This may of been the main reason ive given up that sweet mary j (along with the vast array of substances ive enjoyed at one time or another).

I think we can all agree, drugs induce a change in perception. Well what happens if you've recently really hated this new perception. It may open your eyes to things that may not be true, but at the time, you may not know any better. It came to a point where it was no longer a social enjoyment.

So, after 5 years of good times.. i still love the mary j, but not as much as i love pussy.

(half baked, remember?)

Karm 04-10-2004 05:25 PM

Smoking weed leads to stomach/thigh weight gain. The demand for "muncies" and the "zoned out" time i.e. no exercise. Leads to unwanted weight gain. Stay home if getting stoned. The stores and drive-thru's will attract your hard-earned dollers if you are in the "zone". Or pay strictly with cash at the grocery store. Its amazing how much stuff ends up in the cart. Especialy the cookie and ice cream sections.
You have been warned!

newmanator 04-16-2004 08:07 AM

I loved smoking weed until I had a bad trip from ayahuasca, and shortly after that smoking induced a flashback that left me with HPPD, PSTD and perpetual anxiety. As I was addicted, I tried smoking again six months later and a mere hit gave me a flashback / panic attack.

Stompy 04-16-2004 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nate_dawg
have a harsh trip on cannabis? weed isnt much of a hallucinogen, so i'm not too sure about that.

i think if you're THAT paranoid when you toke, then maybe you've got some other issues, or you're consuming other substances.

its just weed dude, start something serious then tell me about being paranoid

I used to hallucinate on weed constantly. For instance, got real stoned one night and thought my bed was a boat on some quicksand (the color of the carpet looked kinda like sand).

Another instance, I dropped a thumb tack and was trying to find it so I wouldn't accidentally step on it. Each move I made, I thought I accidentally stepped in it because I felt this pain as if I stepped on a tack (at the time I was stoned, I thought I did).

Maybe I have an overactive imagination, but... each and every time I got stoned, I hallucinated. I also smoked with people who knew their stuff, and they would've mentioned if it was laced or not.

I can't smoke weed anymore. I don't know why, but everytime I do, I feel like I'm gonna die. It feels like my heart is gonna explode out of my chest and I feel as if I can never get enough air. Then I get VERY paranoid, like any second the cops are gonna bust down my door or .. as if I'm being watched.

I don't have any issues, so it's not like I'm mentally psycho or anything :D

Anyone know how to stop the paranoia?

SixEdxMia 04-16-2004 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kutulu
I've smoked almost every day for almost 10 years with no adverse effects. There can be some dependancy issues if you stop after long time use. I stopped for a week for a DT once and had headaches, night sweats, and I generally felt like shit. Once I took the test (and passed, thanks to stuff from the local headshop) I started smoking again and everything was fine.

Since then I've stopped for a couple weeks at a time and had no side effects so maybe quitting had nothing to do with it.

Very Me too.

.Anyone got any papers?
I've seemed to lost mine...Did anyone post about memory loss? I forget if they did.

skinnymofo 04-20-2004 09:29 PM

Quote:

Wouldn't you be able to tell if the weed was laced because of the price? What kind of drug dealer is gonna give you more drugs than you want for free? That makes no sense....or maybe this post doesn't make sense.
freshmen year of highschool i knew a guy who would give quite a bit of weed for 10 bucks because he would steal it from his parents. one day i gota fairly large sized nug and smoked the whole thing, the rest of that day everyones eyes i looked at were glowing yellow and just a black dot for the pupil/ colored portion ( i forget what thats called). after school that day i saw the guy i bought it from and he mentioned that the weed hed sold me was a little less quality than usual but there was far more pcp in it than usual. Since that day though ive yet to see anything laced or added with weight although ive seen some of the "ghetto" kids spray smelly shit like strawberries or blueberry scent and try and hock their stuff as blueberry weed. every once in a while youll also find someone whose paranoid that their parents will know they deal and spray some kind of cologne or perfume to disguise the smell, but not often if you know where your getting it from.

stevie667 04-21-2004 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixEdxMia
Very Me too.

.Anyone got any papers?
I've seemed to lost mine...Did anyone post about memory loss? I forget if they did.


bah, i solved the problems of skins ages ago, just bought myself 2 boxes, one for at home, and another to take to parties:D

TawG 04-24-2004 11:04 AM

uhm... i smoke hash mostly, only had my hands on some real weed when i was in russia ;) hell, they even had home made tobacco to roll with :D good times :)

but i think we will see the first overdoses of cannabis not long from now, the buds are getting stronger every year, and someday it has to become a healthrisk to smoke too much.

The_wall 04-24-2004 12:25 PM

Weed isn't stronger today then it was in the 60's and 70's like the DEA wants you to think. Some arse holes just add chemicals and stuff to it to make it stronger. No one will ever OD on pure weed, ever.

sam95519 04-24-2004 12:47 PM

OD is not going to happen. As with all drugs your reaction to it as compared to mine might be different.
After over 30 years of off and on usage the last "laced" pot that I can recall..( I think)... was in 1975 and that was with the full knowledge that is was in fact laced with PCP.
And if you can do 10 hits in a row than you are smokeing some pretty sorry shit. Anthing that takes more than 1 or 2 hits to get a nice high is not worth it....of course I'm spoiled...Humboldt County, Calif.


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