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Shauk 12-03-2003 02:44 PM

TIP, GOD! JUST TIP!
 
Alright so I deliver pizza, and if you think we like using our cars and putting wear and tear on it for 5.15 an hour (minimum wage in idaho) you have got to be kidding.

I've had people write me checks for the exact amount, take the pizza and shut the door leaving me standing there with so many bad things on the tip of my tongue.

is it that hard to exercise the common courtesy of tipping? I dont care if its a DOLLAR, but jesus, just tip, its not like that dollar means that much to you. if you cannot afford the extra dollar for a tip, then you cannot afford to be spending your money on pizza, quite simply put.

now im not saying everyone should only tip a dollar, thats just the minimum. on average I get 2-4 $ for tips on my runs.
but theres no worse way to put yourself on my shitlist than to stiff me.

I con understand stiffing someone for bad service at a resturaunt, but I get these pizza's to people in less than half an hour after they CALL to make thier order.

blah, i just had to rant, I got stiffed like 4 times last night and some guy gave me a nickel for a tip, I about wanted to shove it down his throat and tear his head from his sholders, what a prick!
"oh wow my order is 16.95, here let me write the check for 17, you can keep the rest."

god I wish it wasnt endangering my job to put these people in thier place.

raaaawr.

another pointless rant.

yournamehere 12-03-2003 02:56 PM

Not exactly pointless.
I can understand your frustration - getting stiffed is not fun, especially when there's only a few opportunities per hour.
I always tip the pizza guy well - I don't want any "extra' toppings on my next order.

But, I lived on tips for quite a few years myself, so I've always been a good tipper.

Truth be told, when it comes to pizza delivery, I'm sure there are a lot of people that just don't know better - they may think your employer compensates you for the gas and mileage.

Tipping a nickel is just wrong, though - that jerk was probably just too lazy to subtract $16.95 from his check register.
I would have given him 5 asspennies change back.

SabrinaFair 12-03-2003 03:23 PM

Yeah, I've waited tables, which makes a person a more patient customer and a much better tipper. I hate when people tip based solely on the percentage of the bill...I think quality of service should be added on top of that, especially if its above and beyond the call of duty. Then again, I've only worked in inexpensive family type resturants, so I'm probably a little biased.

water_boy1999 12-03-2003 03:40 PM

I am with you brother. I have been in your shoes, not pizza, but similar situations where people are just cheap ass biatches! Don't takt it personally. Just realize that their next order might come with above said "extra toppings".

phaedrus 12-03-2003 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by yournamehere
I always tip the pizza guy well - I don't want any "extra' toppings on my next order.
Same here, I also never send food back at a restaurant.

laconic1 12-03-2003 04:23 PM

I'm usually a good tipper, 15-20 percent based on service at restaurants, 2 bucks when I get my haircut, but the first time my roommates and I ordered delivery they gave me the money to pay. I didn't know I was supposed to tip the pizza guy because I had never ordered delivery before. I felt like a complete bastard later once I realized I was supposed to. Poor guy, counting out exact change, probably wanting to kick my ass. We didn't order out from that place again, so no "extra" toppings came out of that deal.

bparker805 12-03-2003 05:09 PM

Move to my town and you'll get good tips when you drop off a pie at my house. Ive worked a long time in food service. I worked in a retirement home dining room where tipping was discouraged... Even though I gave my residents the best service possible. Ive also been a bartender and dealt with good and bad tippers both. One guy in particular comes to mind. He orders two bottles of Dom Perignon (we're talking about $300 worth of champagne) and tips out $5! And this was on new years eve! My folks took my friends and I out for dinner one time to celebrate my graduation and the service was fucking horrible. I did not tip the "added gratuity for parties of 7 or more" and this fucking idiot of a waiter hits me up in front of my family and friends for more money! That guy was lucky to go home with his head on his shoulders. But to make a long story short, tipping isnt required. It is a gratuity. My advice would to you would be to find a job where you dont have to depend on the tips as additional income. Start robbing banks or something.

djtestudo 12-03-2003 06:15 PM

I worked at Safeway as a courtesy clerk (read: bagger, grocery hauler and cart collecter) for a while and they actually make it a point to tell you that you cannot accept tips. Of course, I later discovered that if you are pleasent and help people they will tip you no matter what you tell them. I had people who would slip money into my hand, physically put it in my apron pocket, even drop money on the ground for me to "find".

And FTR, I ALWAYS make sure I have enough to add a tip, even if it's only a dollar or so, when I get delivery.

forseti-6 12-03-2003 06:24 PM

Move to my town, it's actually considered rude not to tip here. Was hanging out with some high school friends over thanksgiving break. And I paid the dinner bill with CC when they paid with cash, and they were wondering why they had to pay $24 when their meal was only $19. I said "it's the tip." And one of my friend was saying "15% is only $3." And that sorta made me mad. I just told him "sorry but these waiters and waitresses don't make a lot of money as it is, you better tip well."

It really is amazing how cheap some people are. I usually tip a minimum 20%, more depending on service. Heck I even tip the gas station attendants when it's freezing or raining (I get my gas in NJ). Give it to those that earned it.

Mephisto2 12-03-2003 07:55 PM

I tend to tip a lot.

But I live in Australia where tipping is uncommon. Maybe a little in a restaurant, but certainly not delivery guys, taxi men, bar tenders, cafes etc. I'm absolutely in the minority when it comes to this.

A lot of my friends (both Irish and Australian) say things like "Why should I tip? They're only doing their job" etc.

On the other hand, I appreciate that tipping is assumed or expected in the US, so Americans who don't tip are probalby just being pains in the ass.

Mr Mephisto

Randerolf 12-03-2003 08:47 PM

I just want you to know that I feel your pain amigo. I am a waiter and I've seen the good and the bad.

I SWEAR TO GOD WE'LL UNIONIZE ONE DAY! :)

Evil Milkman 12-03-2003 09:29 PM

A nickel for a tip? That guy has balls!

Shauk, I hope the best for you and people start tipping you like you apparently deserve. Good luck!

rogue49 12-03-2003 10:00 PM

I always tip well (15 to 20% or more)

2 years as a Domino's driver, baby :)

Shit, I'll even tip the Subway sandwich maker a buck
because I'm a picky SOB. ;)

Shauk 12-03-2003 10:18 PM

heh im a dominos driver, its a fun gig. I like my job, its just the people who stiff me when im standing in the raid being crotch raided by thier dog and pestered by thier kids (getting hit in the leg over and over with metal tonka trucks is a little annoying)
eh, as always, I like my jobs, as long as there are not people involved.

diddagirl 12-03-2003 11:20 PM

I never stiff on the tips..whether its a delivery guy, resteraunt, or hairdresser. Stingy people who dont tip make me ill to my stomach. *shivers*

Peryn 12-04-2003 12:00 AM

i guess i take the approach that a tip is earned, not a right. Just cause you took a lousy job, and did it correctly, does not mean i should pay you extra for your lack of interest. If you get my pizza to me in a timely manner, hot, and not upside down in the box, you get tipped. If you take an hour and its cold and crappy, you did your job, nothing more. So i will pay you nothing more. If you go out of your way to be good at what you do, and make it an enjoyable experience for the customer, and make me want to go there again, you get a reasonably sized tip. Because you did more than you HAD to, you got a bonus. If your that fast food guy that wont even look at me when you throw my food out the window, you have done the minimum job requirements ONLY, so thats all you deserve to get payed. If im at a restauraunt, i dont care how nice or expensive, and the waiter never comes by to ask me how the food is or offer to refill my drinks, then he has not earned a tip. I dont care if i spent 1,000 dollars on dinner, or 2 bucks at Jacks... if im not worth the effort to you, then your lack of effort certianly isn't going to cost ME money. Im not gonna pay extra for nothing.

I am not stingy when it comes to tips, but i have no quallms about stiffing you on your tip if you dont do anything to deserve it. It even kinda angers me that these days people see tips as a right...not a bonus you get when you do your job well, rather that doing the crappy minimum requirements.

oberon 12-04-2003 01:27 AM

Do pizza delivery guys really not get comped for their gas?? That sucks!

I always tip at least $1 on pizzas (which is usually pretty close to 15%). Usually I prefer not to deal with coins in an order, but I think I'll grab a handful of coins from my coin jar in addition to that if it's not close to 15%. Hope the dude won't be offended... :)

Mehoni 12-04-2003 05:56 AM

In my country tipping is not usual.. people earn enough not to need tips to make it.

I tip when the service has been extra good. Once me and a few guys I went to dinner with tipped $80...

People with low income jobs like cleaner, garbagemen, janitor etc seems to make around $1500/month here. That's including waitresses.

aurigus 12-04-2003 07:02 AM

Shauk,

I would be working my ass off to find another job. It's good to work in a situation like that so you know what its like, but its enough to know you don't want to do it for too long. That sounds like a rip that they dont pay for the use of your own car; I would definately find another place of employment.

I usually tip pretty well. The web site http://www.stainedapron.com/ will have some funny stories for you if you work in the waiting or even the pizza delivering industry. They have some funny stories on there, also it makes you not want to rip off your waiter/delivery guy.

Dano069 12-04-2003 07:55 AM

We always tip, even if he pizza guy is late, which, by the way, is happening more often.

I've had too many friends over the years struggling to make it and a brother who delivered pizzas for a while.

sailor 12-04-2003 08:42 AM

I always tip the delivery guy, usually 3 or 4 dollars. The only time I didnt was when it took him two hours to get it to me.

madcow 12-04-2003 03:44 PM

http://www.coronaproductions.com/tp/...ervoir_dvd.jpg

Mr. Pink has a pretty interresting view on tipping and I kind of agree with him. Tipping should be something people add on for good service, not because it's expected. The problem is that companies in America factor in tips to their employee's wages, and decide that they can pay them less. Thus people expect tips to bring them up to the wage they deserve, and since that always doesn't happen, they get frustrated.

I'm not saying that I don't tip, I tip pretty well actually, but the American system of tipping is inherently flawed. :|

On a side note: I'm assuming you get compensated for gas/mileage in someway?

Bobaphat 12-04-2003 08:52 PM

You chose your job. Tipping is never required and should be grateful those who do choose to give you one do. Tips aren't to be expected, they are to be earned. Put a little more effort into it and maybe you'll be rewarded, but even if you're not, the customer is in the right it is their money and their choice.

anleja 12-04-2003 09:02 PM

I deliver pizzas part-time, and have noticed that people in the richer neighborhoods don't usually tip worth a damn, and usually the big tippers are people who don't seem like they would be good tippers, based on how I perceive their financial situation to be.

I don't know why this is, or if anyone else has noticed this. Maybe the people who have lots of money have lots of money because they are stingy with it ;)

I usually try to not let it bother me when I don't get a tip. I figure if I have a bad attitude towards them, then I have just lowered myself to their level!

ReggErving 12-04-2003 09:21 PM

I work for tips now and it amazing me how cheap some bastards are, when the pizza guys comes it is usually 4 to 5 bucks. I believe that you pay for service and when I order a pizza it gets there pretty quick and hot.

yournamehere 12-05-2003 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bobaphat
You chose your job. Tipping is never required and should be grateful those who do choose to give you one do. Tips aren't to be expected, they are to be earned. Put a little more effort into it and maybe you'll be rewarded, but even if you're not, the customer is in the right it is their money and their choice.
With that kind of attitude, I would guess, "No - that wan't a mushroom."

cj22009 12-05-2003 09:06 AM

I used to be a bartender I know how hard it is to work off tips and low wage but I look at it this way to iff the service sucks you dont get a good tip end of story iff i get good service ive been know to leave a 20 dollar tip on a 40 dollar meal which isnt a bad tip as you all know I had a guy meet me at the door one day saying somthing because of the tip but when my drink sits on the table empty for 10 or 15 minutes I dont think that deserves a tip and thats what I told him jmho on that

amonkie 12-05-2003 11:25 AM

I was a pianist in a restaurant for three years, and I was paid pretty decently by the restaurant ~ $12 an hour. I ended up putting a tip jar up because people would just come lay money on the piano, and that just looks tacky. I took tips to be a gauge of how they enjoyed my performance. The nights i've earned successive $20 bills tells me that I'm doing my job right :)

dmoney778 12-05-2003 01:51 PM

tipping is essential at all times when anyone does any service for you at all. I just had a guy fix a chip in my windshield of my car and when he was finished, I tipped him. Even though I'm paying for the service, I still tip and I think that is the right thing to do always. sorry about the bad tippers and the stiffers, i feel for ya.

Corneo 12-05-2003 02:39 PM

Yea I can feel for ya. I know how hard it is to survive on minimum wage and use that to pay for gas and car fee's.

Finchie 12-05-2003 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by anleja
I deliver pizzas part-time, and have noticed that people in the richer neighborhoods don't usually tip worth a damn, and usually the big tippers are people who don't seem like they would be good tippers, based on how I perceive their financial situation to be.

I don't know why this is, or if anyone else has noticed this. Maybe the people who have lots of money have lots of money because they are stingy with it ;)

I usually try to not let it bother me when I don't get a tip. I figure if I have a bad attitude towards them, then I have just lowered myself to their level!

Yeah, I've noticed this too. Maybe it's because a lot of rich people are born with money and have never held any service level jobs in their life. They have no idea how much pizza boys, waiters, etc. depend on tips. Middle and lower class groups are more likely to have worked these types of jobs and can empathize. Obviously, this is just a generalization, but I've noticed it before.

Soggybagel 12-05-2003 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bobaphat
You chose your job. Tipping is never required and should be grateful those who do choose to give you one do. Tips aren't to be expected, they are to be earned. Put a little more effort into it and maybe you'll be rewarded, but even if you're not, the customer is in the right it is their money and their choice.
I wish I had those Resevior Dogs quotes. Basically though it comes down to not everyone can enter this magical high paying job. A single mother with little education and a child to feed working at some restaraunt can't just take off a year and attend some community college to further her education, unless she plans on having everyone starve. In a general sense of the idea, yeah you pick your own job. Just don't believe that everyone has such freedoms though. You know why everyone isn't retired at the age of 35 and is earning a hefty pension? Because the world isn't perfect and those crappy jobs that some dont' want are the life blood of others. If you've ever been in a financial hardship, you know would know how goddamn stressful it is to have to worry about your mortgage and feeding your children etc.

Dilbert1234567 12-07-2003 01:48 AM

that sucks dude, i try to tip 15-30%

basicly waht ever is the change and a few bucks

the worst payment ive given for pizza (dont think that you sicko) was $25 in quarters and dimes not a single peice of paper in it. i apologiesed for it and he got a $5 tip in quarters as well.

slimshaydee 12-07-2003 04:21 AM

Like Mr Mephisto I live in australia, so its not expected that we tip because employers actually pay well enough for the person to not have to rely on tips. I've never tipped anyone.

Flesh 12-07-2003 05:31 AM

I have a question... when you guys tip your pizza guy, and say the price is 8 bucks, and u wanna give him 2 bucks tip.. and you have all singles.. do you just give him the 10 bucks together and let him sort it out? or do you seperate the tip?

Harshaw 12-07-2003 06:51 AM

I was a bagger for a local supermarket. We weren't allowed to take tips, but I only took two. The first one was from a lady, I don't think she was making much more than I was at the time. She was really sweet and actually helped me load her car. I didn't want to take her tip, but at the same time I felt it would be rude to refuse.

The second guy had three carts worth of food, he didn't help with a single cart. I had to pull two of them behind me. He didn't help load or anything, as he left he offered me a dollar. I didn't want his fucking money, so I said no thanks. He threw it at me as he drove off... I almost keyed his Lexus the next time I saw him there.

Ratman 12-07-2003 06:32 PM

I now live in a no-tip country. It is so nice to not see a tip jar on the counter of every freaking place of business from 7-11 to the dry cleaners. Not even at Starbucks here. The service is uniformly good. You don't feel the staff sizing you up when you walk in the door and deciding what kind of tip you will probably leave and then what kind of service they will give. Your address isn't catagorized by the delivery people. I got tired of the feeling back home that every Tom, Dick and Harry had their hand out. This is how it ought to be.

Edit: I didn't want this to sound like I begrudge those that legitimately could earn tips, like waiters, pizza guys, cab drivers, etc. As long as you provide the level of service that merits a tip you'll get one from me when I'm home. My point was more that here they pay service people a living wage, so they don't have to rely on tips to survive. This is how it ought to be.

Stare At The Sun 12-07-2003 10:04 PM

I'm poor now, so i can't tip, if i get a pizza, it's a treat...(im in college) but later in life i'll tip well, I promise!

Litespeed 12-07-2003 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by aurigus
Shauk,

I would be working my ass off to find another job. It's good to work in a situation like that so you know what its like, but its enough to know you don't want to do it for too long. That sounds like a rip that they dont pay for the use of your own car; I would definately find another place of employment.

I'm with aurigus about searching out another place to work. Face it, there's not much future in delivering pizza.

An intelligent guy like you can do better-- just get out there and show a few people that you'd be a quality employee and you're set.

Even if you don't think you know anything worthwhile, don't have a degree, or don't have any marketable skills... all employers want is someone who is willing to learn things quickly and follows directions well. After delivering pizza for so long, you deserve something better.

Journeyman 12-07-2003 11:20 PM

As my family being a regular of a pizza delivery joint and a personal customer to a couple other places, I can honestly say that we're in the habit of tipping well enough. And the product comes out good, and if it comes out a little better with a nice smile and more checks on refills because I tip, so be it.

But that you guys got me thinking that I should tip to keep from getting my food sneezed, spit, or jizzed on...

Sigh. What countries are you guys in that don't have tipping for the norm...?


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