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mcbain415 06-29-2003 12:53 PM

shroomin'
 
hey all.
i'm thinking about trying mushrooms for the first time. i was wondering if anyone would care to give me some advice on the subject. I've been trying to read up on the effects and what not of taking them and I think I'm ready to go for it. If anyone has any suggestions or stories to tell please do so here. thanks.

BoCo 06-29-2003 01:41 PM

Stupid idea. Just find some new friends and do something better with your time.

cheezhead 06-29-2003 02:02 PM

Sorry can't offer advice on shroom's.
Just stick to pot and beer! A little coke once in a while is good too.

rockzilla 06-29-2003 03:27 PM

Check this thread out for some really good advice :

http://tfproject.org/tfp/showthread....threadid=11538

Quick summary : Be someplace safe with people you trust. Don't do more than you're comfortable doing (1 gram is more than enough). If you find yourself getting nervous/paranoid, take a few deep breaths, sit down, have some water and keep in mind that you might have some problems telling the difference between reality and a hallucination. Try to keep your wits about you, don't try to drive or fly, or jump into oncoming traffic. Just keep yourself in the most pleasant surroundings possible, sit back and enjoy the ride.

phredgreen 06-29-2003 04:12 PM

Quote:

<i> as seen here: http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/drugmisc.html#mushrooms</i>

<b>Magic Mushrooms</b> ('shrooms, mushies, liberty caps)

Magic mushrooms are a powerful, naturally occurring hallucinogenic.

There are about a dozen varieties of hallucinogenic mushrooms found growing in the wild in the UK, the most popular being the 'Liberty Cap' (Psilocybe Semilanceata). The harvesting season is between September and November. After picking, mushrooms are usually eaten raw, cooked, made into a drink, or dried for later consumption. They are usually sold loose in bags or crushed into tablets.

The effects of mushrooms are very similar to acid, although some report a more 'natural' high sometimes with a feeling of being detached. Small doses can bring on excitement and euphoria, while bigger doses (30 mushrooms or more) can bring on shape and colour distortions and vivid hallucinations.

<b>Side effects</b>: Much the same as acid. Some users complain of nausea, dizziness, vomiting, diarrhoea and stomach pains. Like all hallucinogens, how good or bad your trip will be can be affected by who you are with, where you are and how you're feeling at the time. Some people also report flashbacks. It is important to be in a safe environment as some people can panic and get confused.

Like all drugs, the exact nature and strength of the effects doesn't just depend on the amount of mushrooms taken: the body weight, tolerance levels, and general physical health and mental state of the user all have parts to play.

<b>Health risks</b>: Little research has been done into the long-term effects of mushrooms. There are no serious problems such as dependence and withdrawal associated with the drug, and as the body quickly develops tolerance, continuous use is unlikely. The hallucinatory effects of the drug can make people at risk of accidents, while the biggest risk is of people mistakenly picking and consuming poisonous mushrooms - make sure you know what you're taking. If in any doubt, don't take them.

<b>The Law</b>: Possession and consumption of mushrooms is not an offence unless they have been processed or prepared for illicit use (i.e. cut, sliced, dried, pressed into powder etc. Psilocybin is contained in many hallucinogenic mushrooms (including the liberty cap) and is a phosphate of psilocin, which is a controlled drug. This raises complex legal issues with regard to magic mushrooms; generally, prosecution brought against people for possession of untreated mushrooms alone is likely to fail.
that is a compltely unbiased article on them. to be fair, my own opinion is that you should stay away from drugs, but you have to make your own choices. just be careful.

asudevil83 06-29-2003 04:29 PM

yeah man...the biggest thing is to be in a comfortable situation with people you feel comfortable with. also, this is very important...be in a good state of mind. if your day has gone bad or your just not in the mood THEN DONT DO THEM. and if with friends who are feeling the same way, its best not to do them either. you'll end up worrying about the and your trip will be terrible. any emotions that you feel at the time of your trip will be amplified ten fold.

other things to remember...

your trip will last a while. a good 5-6 hours is probable. and this is not something that you can snap out of either. be somewhere where you dont have to leave in a few hours, because you wont be able to.

also...have something fun planned. this may sound a little stupid, but try to stay outside. if at all possible be around "nature." trees, plants, water, grass all have a positive effect on my trip. stuff like concrete, city traffic, and strangers all tend to make me feel bad. try going to the park or something and playing football. just be a kid for a while. your worries will fade and you'll have a blast.

indoors can be also bad, especially if its a dark and dreery place. it will totally mess with your emotions (make you feel claustiphobic and depressed.) if you do get stuck inside though be active. sitting around doing nothing, like watching a movie, tends to bring down my trip.

one other thing that you may want to concider...what part of the shroom you eat. eating the caps tends to bring about more hallucinations. colors become more vibrant, things swirl. you may find yourself staring at shit for a good long time and be totally amazed. eating the stems tends to give you a more emotional trip. your feelings will be more easily influenced and amplied by eating more. i personally like eating more caps than stems. something like 60/40 or 70/30.

just so you know, this drug is pretty strong and can easily mess with your mind. i personally probably wont ever do it again. their are way to many factors that can send you the wrong way and ruin your time.

just remember to be careful. and i'd suggest not doing them unless you are good and prepared.

MacGnG 06-29-2003 07:16 PM

FOR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT DRUGS:
http://www.erowid.org
then click on the specific drug (shrooms)

mcbain415 06-29-2003 07:25 PM

thanks a lot for all of your input, people. i am still considering trying it or not. for the most part i think i can handle it and if i do go through with it i will be with people who have done them before and know how to have a good trip. thanks again for all the help!

zfleebin 06-30-2003 12:16 AM

Things you might think about
1. if you eat a bunch right away you will trip for an hour or two and then have a strong peak(intense hallucination period)
2. If you start with a little(1 gram or 3/4 of a gram) it will let you get the gist but keep you from peaking too hard.
3. You need at least a friend who you can trust with you because it can be quite intense
4. Once you open your mind you will look at the world differenlty and it doesnt wear off(for me this was a good thing I have become a very open minded individual)

butthead 06-30-2003 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacGnG
FOR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT DRUGS:
http://www.erowid.org
then click on the specific drug (shrooms)

Also if you have any questions about drugs, www.dancesafe.org has great forums for asking.

Ho-train 06-30-2003 09:12 AM

I say for your first time its good to eat about half an eighth, or 1.7 grams. I have yet to eat an entire eighth at once and all of my trips (about 4) have been awesome. Just make sure you're in happy places. Also, changing environments alot is one way to keep yourself from having a bad trip. It gives your mind more to focus on that whats really going on in your head. If you ever start to feel nervous, scared, or otherwise...just remember that the trip will be over eventually and you won't stay like that for the rest of your life (this happened to me my first time tripping and it wasn't as enjoyable as it could've/should've been).

clavus 06-30-2003 12:06 PM

Avoid a common mistake.

An hour or so after you eat the shrooms, you may decide that they aren't that strong. You may feel a little. You may feel nothing yet. At this point, I would advise you - DO NOT EAT AN MORE MUSHROOMS.

Be patient. They will kick in.

Slims 06-30-2003 07:32 PM

Edited. Old, bad advice.

QuasiMojo 06-30-2003 08:35 PM

If you decide to take mushrooms...
You may understand that the earth IS INDEED Flat.

jump up in the air
get the joke
laugh like a Motherfucker

realize that all all those lightning bugs are SUPPOSED to be there.

see all of your epiphonys illustrated in the next days Sunday Newspapers comics section(most notably "The Family Circus")

have fun!!!

*edit* Oh by the way...if you can be near large groups of trees it may be helpful.

vermin 06-30-2003 09:11 PM

Be prepared to giggle.

Slims 07-01-2003 12:02 AM

Edited.

boredjerk 07-01-2003 12:18 AM

giggle and yawn and have fun. I've tripped probably over a thousand times (only twice in last 2 years though). Nothing bad ever happened. Helps to have a little pot. Don't give up after a half hour of nothing and go somewhere else.

sportsrule101 07-01-2003 07:11 AM

Is a particular reason you need to try them, or are you really that much of loser. That you can't find anything productive, or fun to do.

obelix 07-01-2003 10:53 AM

i have tried mushrooms a couple of times and didnt find them to be anything particularly outstanding. most of the time, i was rather energetic and was running around not making much sense. another time, i did them at night when i was quite tired after a starting work at 5am and i ended up passing out. i havnt really experienced any negative effects with them thus far. i would prefer to smoke pot anyday however.

Slims 07-01-2003 11:22 AM

Edited. College

clues_blues 07-01-2003 12:40 PM

greg700 - boone, eh? now i understand your shroomin' knowledge.

shrooms were very intense for me. we used to boil half of the dose into a tea, and eat the other half. that helped with speeding up the onset.

if you are going to do them (and please understand that i am not encouraging you to) listen to the aforementioned advice: be in a safe place with people you trust. have some activities in case you want something to do. err on the low side of your dose.

be careful and respect the power of hallucinogens. if you are manic depressive you should never take them.

c_b

Ace_of_Lobster 07-01-2003 02:39 PM

random tips
I used to love shrooms, but eventually I went off them.

1. avoid sugary foods and drinks (or if you are not enjoying your trip, eat sugary foods and drinks like orange juice)
2. turn off the tv
3.if you smoke, be sure to have plenty on hand. <--very important
4. if you smoke weed you may find it necessary to smoke a joint to sort of jumpstart your trip.
5. kleenex is good to have around too.

boredjerk 07-01-2003 08:35 PM

what's the kleenex for?

bermuDa 07-02-2003 12:16 AM

you should definitely trip with a few choice friends, shrooming in a crowd is bad idea. Take 1/16th of an ounce for your first trip; that's what I took and it was very mellow. an 8th (3.5 grams) would give you a very intense trip, but it can make you freak out. consider your body weight when choosing a dosage. Also know that the caps will give more hallucinations and the stems more of a body high.

A few times I've tripped I got very introverted. The last time I took a whole 8th I sat completely motionless for four hours straight, aware of what was happening around me, but my inner monologue was going full blast. My friends thought I was comatose and threw a ball at me, which I caught and scared the shit out of all of them :lol: the moral here is if the shrooms are good, you don't need a lot of them. Too much of a good thing can definitely give you a bad trip. smoking weed is fun on shrooms, and in my experience helped clear my head wheni was coming down.

Another tip: Shrooms taste like SHIT. You do NOT want to taste them. Have a good thick chaser like a milkshake or smoothie handy, plug your nose with one hand, and use the other to shovel shrooms and pour the chaser in your mouth. The more you chew them the quicker they'll kick in. Keep your nose completely plugged untill you've gotten all the little bits out of your teeth. The cleaner your mouth is before you unplug your nose, the less you'll taste the ass flavor. Somy of my friends say it's the pussy way to eat them, but they can go ahead and enjoy eating dehydrated shit. You'll probably feel a little nauseated for a while after eating them, but you won't throw up (maybe some dry heaves at the worst)

Just remember, it's all just a trip. It may make you think about things in a different way; but the world hasn't changed, just your perspective. If you're worried about freaking out (which can happen if you let it get to you), go to a local GNC or equivalent beforehand and pick up some niacin (vitamin b3). If you start to freak out and want to bail, 250-500mg of niacin will have you feeling more normal within 20 minutes or so.

I'm not one to condone illegal drug use, but it's your decision to make, and I'd feel much better about it if you had the benefit of other's experiences and knowledge before you take your first step into a bigger world. Go forth and have fun! :D

edit// and yeah... what's the kleenex for??
2nd edit// Also, going for a walk with your friends can be pretty fun, just remember where you're going! I've gotten lost a couple times :lol:

QuasiMojo 07-02-2003 05:07 AM

Q. what's the kleenex for??

I imagine to wipe the tears from your eyes. either from laughter or crying. (emotions experienced while shrooming can run the gamut)

Snakeyes 07-04-2003 08:50 PM

www.shroomery.org

By the way... for god's sakes no matter how hard your gag reflex freaks out (shrooms taste awful) do NOT barf them up, or else it's time and money down the toilet. Or all over your floor.

Well like everyone else said, be in a quiet, calm surrounding, with someone you trust.

Also, you may find paranoia creeping up on you, that this was a bad idea and you need to stop. It's very important that you tell yourself that you made the choice already, and you need to buckle down and relax.

asudevil83 07-04-2003 09:36 PM

i've never barfed while being fucked up, but i have heard that if your feeling sick from the shrooms its best not to throw them up. i guess its supposed to make the whole thing way more intense.

BulletBob 07-04-2003 11:54 PM

Someone said turn off the t.v. That's the best adivce you can take, honestly. The T.V. will seriously mess with your mind.

MacGnG 07-05-2003 07:12 PM

yea, tv fucks u up.

MSD 07-05-2003 09:38 PM

Last time a friend told me about a trip on shrooms, he had been in the bathroom, the wall started breathing, then laughed at her, then bled, and the faucet started trying to bite her fingers. She ran screaming and hid in a closet for 6 hours until her friends started thinking clearly and realized that they hadn't seen her for 6 hours.

They claimed that the shrooms weren't laced with anything stronger and they kept to small doses.

boredjerk 07-06-2003 12:13 AM

they were dorks?

Pedialyte 07-06-2003 07:23 PM

www.erowid.org tons of info on any drug... make sure you are emotionally stable when you do shrooms bro!

cj2112 07-06-2003 07:54 PM

Mood has everything to do w/ the quality of your trip, especially the first one!!!! Shrooms intensify your moods, keep the trip upbeat and the onversations on light topics for your first trip. Relax, set a couple rules for yourself...1. no matter what you cannot drive! 2. no matter what you cannot fly! other than that have fun!

MacGnG 07-06-2003 08:58 PM

goto erowid, everything u need to know. period.

butthead 07-07-2003 07:43 AM

Shroomery.org

brinkn1 07-18-2003 04:19 PM

I highly recommend doing them... you'll learn a lot about yourself.

drink some orange juice

trip with a friend

dont be paranoid cause there's nothing to be paranoid about

dont watch tv

listen to music

play a mmorpg

BigJayz 07-18-2003 04:44 PM

Ok, here's my advice......

Eat at least a half an 1/8th if not an entire 1/8th. I don't know how big you are, but I'm a fairly big guy. The first time I ate shrooms I was about 220 lbs and I ate an entire 1/8th and it was just the right amount. If you're nervous about taking an entire one, try half.

Now this is very important to the enjoyment of them.... When you eat them, grab a handfull... as many as you can get in your mouth, plug your nose, put them in and chew but make sure you have something to wash them down with (preferably something sweet.. O.J., Soda, but water will do in a bind), reason is they taste like shit!!! (It's really no wonder though because thats where they grow, on shit). Another way to get past the taste is to put them on a pizza, or in spaghetti sauce.

Finally be comfortable, a good time is early evening. If you smoke buds, the feeling of shrooms are just enhanced by it. You will have a shit eating grin on your face and feeling a bit giggly within 40-45 minutes, you'll get a strange feeling in your jaw and teeth, this is perfectly normal.

Eat away and have fun.... Don't forget to let us know how it went.

MSD 07-18-2003 07:45 PM

I forgot to mention, do it with someone you trust, who's done it before.

MacGnG 07-18-2003 10:00 PM

make some oodles of noodles, add majik musshies, season to taste, enjoi.

Jonsgirl 07-20-2003 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg700
Oh, dont forget to look in the mirror. Esp. if it's a dual bathroom mirror that makes the bathroom look like a tunnel.
NO, mirrors are baaadd!! I'd stay outside, definately, although christmas trees are nice. almmost like a candy store for your eyes.


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