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fallsauce 05-24-2005 11:45 PM

water packaging
 
What's the cheapest thing you could use to contain water? Or, if anyone knows how much plastic would cost to package 50ml, 100ml, 150ml etc of water, that'd be great.

ObieX 05-25-2005 04:15 AM

couldn't you just use some tupperware? maybe some duct tape to ensure its closure if mailing, then putting it in a box? They make really cheap types of tupperware now thats disposable. Unless you want a bottle. :P

Redlemon 05-25-2005 05:38 AM

What are you planning to do with the water once it is contained? How much water are you planning to collect?

macmanmike6100 05-25-2005 09:00 AM

no offense to obie, but I would avoid tupperware for transporting liquids. the seal is far less reliable than that of a twist-top bottle.

ObieX 05-25-2005 09:08 AM

Yea, thats why i recommended the duct tape :P

Cynthetiq 05-25-2005 10:21 AM

cheapest thing to contain water.

sheet of paper

hand cupped

are talking about having something bottled by machine or by hand?

BadNick 05-25-2005 12:34 PM

150ml is just over half a cup, not much. In production quantities of hundreds of thousands of containers, a blown plastic bottle like that would cost about one cent U.S. maybe less.

ObieX 05-25-2005 01:57 PM

Thinking of opening your own bottled water company?

phukraut 05-25-2005 02:33 PM

Raid peoples' recycling boxes to collect bottles---particularly water bottles (which look pretty much the same once the labels have been removed). Or is this a professional job?

fallsauce 05-25-2005 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ObieX
Thinking of opening your own bottled water company?

If I had a prize I'd give it to you for guessing the closest.

We have to think of a venture and I was just wondering how much I can charge, (rough figure, whether it's possible to have the price as low as I need it to be.)

But I just talked to my tutor and he told me how to write around specifics. (I have a habit of making everything a lot more complicated than it actually is.) :p

Lebell 05-26-2005 06:05 AM

Oh.

With that information, Plastic bottles are the way to go.

Which of course is why almost all bottled water companies use plastic.

Demeter 05-28-2005 04:10 PM

fallsauce, you put caffeine in your bottled water & I'll be your biggest customer!

Redlemon 05-29-2005 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demeter
fallsauce, you put caffeine in your bottled water & I'll be your biggest customer!

They used to sell that... I recall two brands were Crank-2-O and AquaJoe. I'm looking for a drink that has caffiene, low or no sugar, and definitely no artificial sweeteners. But, everything on the shelf is 27 grams of sugar per 8-oz serving. You and me, is that enough of a market?

phukraut 05-29-2005 08:34 AM

The lab I'm working in is developing a B-Complex juice drink---that would give you a healthy kick, and last longer than a caffeine hit. Perhaps look for something along those lines. This would also work if you popped one or two B-Complex caps with just normal water.

Redlemon 05-29-2005 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phukraut
The lab I'm working in is developing a B-Complex juice drink---that would give you a healthy kick, and last longer than a caffeine hit. Perhaps look for something along those lines. This would also work if you popped one or two B-Complex caps with just normal water.

Obviously, you are under secrecy about this right now, but could you give us a heads-up when it is about to hit the market? And, how long does that take, anyway?

phukraut 05-29-2005 09:09 AM

I don't know how long it will take, but maybe I'll send you a sample when it's ready. We are a pharmacy lab, so we're not actually doing full production (we would most likely take orders, not sell to retailers). The reason it's probably not on the popular market yet is because it's very difficult to mask the taste without adding sugar or weakening the vitamin dose.

Demeter 05-29-2005 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon
They used to sell that... I recall two brands were Crank-2-O and AquaJoe. I'm looking for a drink that has caffiene, low or no sugar, and definitely no artificial sweeteners. But, everything on the shelf is 27 grams of sugar per 8-oz serving. You and me, is that enough of a market?

We never got them in Canada. :(
Some of the energy drinks available also are coming out with sugar-free versions, but, like you I hate aspertame.
I suppose I could just pop some Wake-Ups & down a a bottle of water. It just seems no fun that way.
They need a water with a splash of lemon & a dose of caffeine.

TM875 05-30-2005 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon
They used to sell that... I recall two brands were Crank-2-O and AquaJoe. I'm looking for a drink that has caffiene, low or no sugar, and definitely no artificial sweeteners. But, everything on the shelf is 27 grams of sugar per 8-oz serving. You and me, is that enough of a market?

We used to get AquaJoe (and some other brand) here. The taste of the water itself was horrendous. However, when used to brew coffee in the morning...::slips off to sweet, caffeine-filled bliss:: :crazy:

Scorpion23 06-15-2005 10:15 AM

The problem with just putting caffeine in water is the bitter taste, which is covered up by adding sweeteners.

Redlemon 06-28-2005 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phukraut
The lab I'm working in is developing a B-Complex juice drink---that would give you a healthy kick, and last longer than a caffeine hit. Perhaps look for something along those lines. This would also work if you popped one or two B-Complex caps with just normal water.

I've been browsing the shelves in my local deli, spending too much time reading the labels on drinks. Most sodas and iced teas have 27 g of sugar per serving.

There's a new line of flavored white teas from Snapple, which they describe as "naturally light"; that means they only put 15 g of sugar in each serving. Not bad, but it doesn't seem to have that much caffeine. Hard to tell, and I can't find documentation on it either. However, it still seems plenty sweet enough, I don't know what all the rest of the sugar is doing in regular drinks.

Also checking in at 15 g of sugar is Powerade, which also includes various B vitamins for energy, as mentioned by phukraut. I don't know how significant their dosages are, perhaps P could fill us in.

phukraut 06-28-2005 04:02 PM

Well I don't know anything about Powerade, but chances are the B vitamins are heavily watered down and preserved, which kind of defeats the purpose of having them there because you won't get the same kick as from popping a raw pill. Maintaining shelf life is a problem that I didn't mention before. If a solution to that can be found, then the line between medicine and drink is crossed, which will make it marketable.

shakran 06-28-2005 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon
They used to sell that... I recall two brands were Crank-2-O and AquaJoe. I'm looking for a drink that has caffiene, low or no sugar, and definitely no artificial sweeteners. But, everything on the shelf is 27 grams of sugar per 8-oz serving. You and me, is that enough of a market?


and they still sell it. It's called water joe. I've seen it in concession stands at race tracks a lot for some reason.

snowy 06-28-2005 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demeter
We never got them in Canada. :(
Some of the energy drinks available also are coming out with sugar-free versions, but, like you I hate aspertame.
I suppose I could just pop some Wake-Ups & down a a bottle of water. It just seems no fun that way.
They need a water with a splash of lemon & a dose of caffeine.

AGREED.

I've taken to gulping down a Red Bull sugarfree and washing it down with water, haha.

Ragbags 06-29-2005 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redlemon
...Most sodas and iced teas have 27 mg of sugar per serving...

27 thousandths of a gram? Wow - that's not much. I think that milk has about 500 times that, and fruit juice 1000 times. Unless, of course, the servings are REALLY small.

Whew, I think I'll be drinking soft drinks from now on.

Redlemon 06-29-2005 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragbags
27 thousandths of a gram? Wow - that's not much. I think that milk has about 500 times that, and fruit juice 1000 times. Unless, of course, the servings are REALLY small.

Whew, I think I'll be drinking soft drinks from now on.

Ah, crap, I'm too used to working in units of milligrams and micrograms at work. :| Original post corrected accordingly.

JStrider 07-05-2005 12:56 PM

darn... shoulda posted before reading the whole topic...

i was gonna say an unlubricated condom...

you can use em to store a couple quarts of water... a buddy and I fit almost a whole gallon into one once


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