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For the Mathematicians of the TFP
Given three concentric circles in the plane, prove that (up to rotation and reflection) there exists a unique triangle of maximum area having exactly one vertex on each circle, respectively.
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holy shit, that's all i have to say about that !
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The three vertices will be refered to as points A, B and C. A will exist on the innermost circle, B on the middle circle and C on the outer circle.
Since rotation and reflection are excluded, placement of A is arbitrary. In order to maximize volume, B must be placed exactly opposite A on the middle circle. Earlier proofs conclude that volume to circumference is maximized as the shape approaches a circle, or as the number of vertices approaches infinity. (Can I use other proofs, or do you want this from scratch?) Connect A, the center of concentricity, and B with a straight line. Draw a line at a right angle at the center. Mark the intersection with the outer circle C. This triangle is unique, and maximizes volume. Any movements of A or B around their respective circles will narrow the triangle and reduce volume. Any movement of C will skew the triangle and reduce volume. QED? Or should I call C^2 = A^2 + B^2 - 2AB*cos(c) as my next witness? |
sorry cant do these kindsa problems without a graph and a textbook :p
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why is it unique, Peetster?
Jadz, algebra, please? I SUCK at geometry! :P |
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and almost... there is some information missing from this proof to completely convince me... |
Sub-proof 1: An isoseles triangle maximizes the volume to perimeter ratio.
Let x, y and z be the sides of the triangle, with x equal y for an isoseles. Perimeter P1= x+y+z since x=y P1=2x+z Area A1=1/4zx + 1/4 zy since x=y A1=1/2zx Therefore (I don't know the ASCII code for the three dots) A1/P1 = (1/2zx) / (2x+z) = zx / 2(2x+z) = zx / (4x+2z) OK, I'm thinking this might not be the right direction to go since I must now calculate the differences in the perimiter based on movement around the circle. |
It must be an isoseles triangle, which is composed of two right triangles. Each hypotenuse is = sqrt(1/2x^2 + y^2).
If the point is moved the hypotenuse becomes = sqrt(1/2x^2 + y^2 - 2xy*Cos(a)). Since any movement away from an isoseles triangle adds a term which reduces the length of the hypotenuse, it must be the largest triangle. Close? |
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