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genuinegirly 11-23-2008 09:35 PM

What use is an organic compound with a high melting point?
 
The other week in organic chemistry lab we produced Hexaphenylbenzene. This has an incredibly high melting point (454-456 °C) for an organic compound.

Which got me thinking -

What practical use is there for this compound? What would you use organic high-melting point compounds for, anyway? Is there any practical industrial use? It just seems odd to produce something for which there is no practical application.

Willravel 11-23-2008 09:47 PM

If it can be used to lubricate machinery, I'd like to borrow $100,000.

inBOIL 11-23-2008 10:24 PM

Perhaps a non-brittle, non-conductive protective coating.

genuinegirly 11-23-2008 10:25 PM

Ah, yes, that seems like a good idea.

Daniel_ 11-24-2008 12:46 AM

Insulators in power stations.

Plastics you can cook in.

Light weight parts for internal comustion engines.

Components for militar applications that are radar invisible.

Erm...

I'm sure with a bit of though, I could come up with some more.

genuinegirly 11-24-2008 02:17 AM

Daniel_ remind me again why you don't make millions coming up with innovative ideas?

Daniel_ 11-24-2008 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genuinegirly (Post 2564510)
Daniel_ remind me again why you don't make millions coming up with innovative ideas?

I have no idea. Can you sugest it to my boss? :rolleyes:

snowy 11-24-2008 08:38 AM

I'm not sure myself, but I'm pretty sure my SO should know the answer to this question. He is also taking O Chem this term, and as a chemical engineer, his focus is more on the practical applications of chemistry. I'll ask him at lunch and see what he says.

genuinegirly 11-24-2008 09:09 AM

Ooo, thanks Snowy! I'm looking forward to hearing what he has to say!

I'm thinking it has applications in nanotechnology. Was reading up on Hexa-peri-hexabenzocoronene last night, which is a Hexaphenylbenzene derivative. Hexaphenylbenzene derivatives seem to form nanotubules with little prompting, and some turn into itty bitty electrical conductors when oxidized.

I'm wondering what else it has been used for. I would think that a melting point in the high 400's would be useful all over the place, but for the life of me I can't think why. Daniel_ started my mind moving though.

snowy 11-24-2008 09:16 AM

I was able to ask him a bit ago, and he said that there were so many possible uses, that asking him the question was like asking him what water could be used for. Not a very helpful answer, I'm sure, but what else can one expect from an engineering student when the term is winding down? :p

genuinegirly 11-25-2008 10:03 AM

Hehe. Thanks for asking, Snowy! What a fun response.

Plan9 11-25-2008 02:30 PM

Threadjack joke:

Q: Organic compound with high melting point.

A: Nuns and Nazis. (drum crash)

Daniel_ 11-26-2008 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin (Post 2565185)
Threadjack joke:

Q: Organic compound with high melting point.

A: Nuns and Nazis. (drum crash)

Don't get it? :no:

n0nsensical 12-01-2008 06:55 PM

Doesn't have anything to do with the melting point, but derivatives of hexaphenylbenzene can be used for the emission layer in blue OLEDs. [1]

Baraka_Guru 12-01-2008 07:25 PM

Nanobiotechnology!

genuinegirly 12-01-2008 07:59 PM

Aha! Thanks, Nonsensical. Nifty find.

hokieian 12-09-2008 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onesnowyowl (Post 2564666)
I was able to ask him a bit ago, and he said that there were so many possible uses, that asking him the question was like asking him what water could be used for. Not a very helpful answer, I'm sure, but what else can one expect from an engineering student when the term is winding down? :p

In other words, he didn't know...

Nimetic 12-12-2008 05:02 PM

Does it burn, or just melt? Sounds like the latter.

I was wondering how much energy it absorbs as it melts - and whether there is a potential use in that.

I'm guessing that it's not a big transition (energy wise). But it might be at a useful point, for something?

Gee. I just looked it up on wikipedia. It's a pretty looking structure. Like a snowflake.

genuinegirly 12-13-2008 10:51 PM

Yeah, it's really pretty. Doesn't burn, just melts. Fascinating compound, really.


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