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UKking 08-19-2008 06:14 AM

You can't have your cake and eat it too
 
I have no idea what that shit is supposed to mean, and I don't know why people keep saying it! Throw me a bone here; what exactly is this phrase supposed to communicate?

vanblah 08-19-2008 06:34 AM

You can either keep the cake or eat the cake. You can't do both.

Jetée 08-19-2008 06:35 AM

The urbandictionary sums it up quite nicely:

This phrase is easier to understand if it is read as "You can't eat your cake, and have it too". Obviously once you've eaten your cake, you won't have it any more. Used for expressing the impossibility of having something both ways, if those two ways conflict.
He works so hard to pay for that fancy house of his that he never has any time to stay home and enjoy it.

Yeah, you can't have your cake and eat it too.



In my own words:

A cake might be nice to look at, but you are faced with the decision of either being in awe of the creation or devouring it, thus tarnishing the beauty of it. It states that you cannot have everything you might want in life.

Baraka_Guru 08-19-2008 06:46 AM

I trowe ye raue, Wolde ye bothe eate your cake, and haue your cake?
[1546 J. Heywood Dialogue of Proverbs ii. ix. L2]

It's what you say to people who want the best of both worlds. In most cases, you can't. You can't have everything both ways. Either you save money for retirement or you frivolously blow it all on whatever delights you. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

SSJTWIZTA 08-19-2008 11:04 AM

ive always heard this phrase....and hated it.

if i have a cake im going to eat the mother fucker.

metaphorically or not.

vanblah 08-19-2008 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSJTWIZTA (Post 2509620)
ive always heard this phrase....and hated it.

if i have a cake im going to eat the mother fucker.

metaphorically or not.

And then you would no longer have the cake.

Baraka_Guru 08-19-2008 11:38 AM

Yeah, dude. Your cake will be totally gone.

aberkok 08-19-2008 12:26 PM

Either you die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

Baraka_Guru 08-19-2008 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aberkok (Post 2509682)
Either you die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

I should have seen that coming.

telekinetic 08-19-2008 07:03 PM

This expression would work better if cakes were equally prized for visual appeal and flavor. For example, if you had an Ace of Cakes cake or something in some awesome pattern, that was also delicious. You couldn't enjoy one aspect without destroying the other.

Jetée 08-19-2008 08:55 PM

Giant hamburger cake

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...fe4a5e6f04.jpg

Charlatan 08-20-2008 02:41 AM

I argue that once I have eaten my cake it then goes on to become part of me. It has transformed into me through the chemistry and biomechanics of my body. I am still in possession of the cake... only now no other greedy fucker can eat it (cannibalism aside).

I am more troubled by: six of one, half a dozen of another.

Shouldn't it be: Call it six or half a dozen... it's the same. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

UKking 08-21-2008 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetée (Post 2509488)
The urbandictionary sums it up quite nicely:

This phrase is easier to understand if it is read as "You can't eat your cake, and have it too". Obviously once you've eaten your cake, you won't have it any more. Used for expressing the impossibility of having something both ways, if those two ways conflict.
He works so hard to pay for that fancy house of his that he never has any time to stay home and enjoy it.

Yeah, you can't have your cake and eat it too.



In my own words:

A cake might be nice to look at, but you are faced with the decision of either being in awe of the creation or devouring it, thus tarnishing the beauty of it. It states that you cannot have everything you might want in life.

Thankya. Good reference point.

I dunno, this seems like the kind of rhetoric that gets applied mostly after-the-fact. Here's another saying: Hindsight is 20/20. I could go on to try to finely describe the relationships intrinsic in this cake phrase, as far as I see it, but instead I'll pass go and collect $200:
Though the implied idea often exists, I think it's a phrase used mostly for destructive criticism, and is useless and stupid.
-----Added 21/8/2008 at 10 : 40 : 28-----
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan (Post 2510035)
I argue that once I have eaten my cake it then goes on to become part of me. It has transformed into me through the chemistry and biomechanics of my body. I am still in possession of the cake... only now no other greedy fucker can eat it (cannibalism aside).

Sounds to me like the cake has you!
-----Added 21/8/2008 at 10 : 40 : 54-----
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan (Post 2510035)

I am more troubled by: six of one, half a dozen of another.

Shouldn't it be: Call it six or half a dozen... it's the same. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

Huh! Haven't heard that first one. Actually, I like it. Doubt I'll run across a circumstance to use it though. Your proposed version, while similar, seems very different in tone and use to me.

jewels 08-21-2008 09:11 AM

Don't let them fool you. You can have your cake and eat it, too.

Don't people keep their wedding cake in the freezer and take a bite every anniversary or some nonsense like that? They have their cake and eat it, too. Although it could be telling. My cakes never made it past the first year.

I'm just sayin' ...:oogle:

Baraka_Guru 08-21-2008 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2510847)
I'm just sayin' ...:oogle:

...so you're saying you prefer to eat your cake rather than have it.... :confused:

The_Jazz 08-21-2008 11:49 AM

Charlatan, wouldn't your premise fly out the proverbial window once pooping is introduced to the equation? Its not like that cake will ALWAYS be with you - you're going to transform it into energy or poop. Or do you have a slow metabolism and expect to get cake-fattened?

UKking 08-21-2008 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2510847)
Don't let them fool you. You can have your cake and eat it, too.

Don't people keep their wedding cake in the freezer and take a bite every anniversary or some nonsense like that? They have their cake and eat it, too. Although it could be telling. My cakes never made it past the first year.

I'm just sayin' ...:oogle:

Bahah that sounds terrible. That'd be likely to make me sick! I don't think I want that cake...

Cernunnos 08-22-2008 02:39 PM

You can't eat your cake and still have it.

Eating the cake can be interpreted as taking a risk which will cause you to lose it.

Eating Cake = Taking Action
It = Resulting Loss

Example: You're in a loving relationship, a total hottie asks you up front for a one night stand. You can go for it, but you shouldn't expect to have your cake (the loving relationship) afterwards.

Ayashe 08-22-2008 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cernunnos (Post 2511553)
You can't eat your cake and still have it.

Eating the cake can be interpreted as taking a risk which will cause you to lose it.

Eating Cake = Taking Action
It = Resulting Loss

Example: You're in a loving relationship, a total hottie asks you up front for a one night stand. You can go for it, but you shouldn't expect to have your cake (the loving relationship) afterwards.

This is basically the gist of it. In Minnesota, there is a city that most people who live elsewhere refer to the inhabitants as cake-eaters. They have their cake and eat it too. Though this has more to do with the socioeconomic of the area.

Also..for those guys that may be considering this: Don't call it pie. You just won't get away with it.:rolleyes:

Charlatan 08-24-2008 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Jazz (Post 2510936)
Charlatan, wouldn't your premise fly out the proverbial window once pooping is introduced to the equation? Its not like that cake will ALWAYS be with you - you're going to transform it into energy or poop. Or do you have a slow metabolism and expect to get cake-fattened?

True... but you can't have your cake forever even if you don't eat it. It will eventually rot... entropy is all.

Isn't it just more fun to eat the damn thing?

The_Jazz 08-24-2008 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlatan (Post 2512266)
True... but you can't have your cake forever even if you don't eat it. It will eventually rot... entropy is all.

Isn't it just more fun to eat the damn thing?

Possibly, but if you have a glandular problem and eat your cake, it's possible that said consumed cake would simply be added onto your already thunderous thighs and then become worm fodder.

Besides, with the advancements in cryogenics these days, perhaps cake frozen near absolute zero would be quite tasty, if only a little chilly.

Merlocke 09-10-2008 11:05 PM

Chris (looking at the Twinkie in his hand): I'm going to turn you into poo.

Technically, it'd be cake, but in poo form no?

Cynosure 09-11-2008 06:33 AM

I thought Marie Antoinette's take on the saying, was funny: "They can't eat cake and have my head, too... ! What?"

SSJTWIZTA 09-23-2008 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanblah (Post 2509649)
And then you would no longer have the cake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru (Post 2509656)
Yeah, dude. Your cake will be totally gone.

...shit.

but then again, jewels does make a good point.

i can have my my cake and eat it...slowly.

but alas..one day the cake has to go.

edit: im starting to think entirely too hard about this.

Seer666 09-24-2008 08:05 PM

"With cake in vulgar surplus, you can have it and eat it to"
Toy Matinee
Last Plane Out

Jozrael 09-24-2008 08:37 PM

Actually Marie Antoinette's take was rather different. She was told that the French people were starving because they had no bread.

Thus, she told them to eat cake.

She was so out of touch with nonroyal life that she couldn't comprehend lacking something she wanted. So if they didn't have their appetizers on hand, she was giving them permission to eat their desserts first, assuming dinner would be coming.

Just saying. I love this thread, btw.

And I've always heard it said "six IN one, half a dozen IN the other" :P

Iliftrocks 09-26-2008 07:09 AM

Well certain political types would just define dirt as cake, and you would always have lots of cake....

Did someone mentions twinkies????? I'm just asking, cause I just had one, and now it's gone. Who stole it???


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