World of Warcraft Open Beta Ends Tomorrow
 

Open Beta ends November 18th. ALL characters wiped.


That being said, I'm currently working on the guild webpage for Heroes of the Universe. So far the guild experience has been good. Anyone who is interested in joining, as usual, leave your comments and what your character's name might be. We'll get this going the 23rd ASAP.

Kinda dissapointed with the game, not sure I'll pick it up when it goes retail...

Are you saying that because of the lag?

-Lasereth

Two General Questions:

General: Should I uninstall the game in prep for Tuesday or can I just enter the CD key on the already installed beta?

General: I choose to play as a Night Elf Warrior and I got to level 20 (I just played on the Open Beta) and I am not sure what I am going to play in the retail version. I can't see playing the same character again as I don't want to do all of those things over and over again. What is everyone else going to do? Try something new or restart with the old? Just wondering and thanks

Lag was pretty bad, but the game wasn't all that fun... maybe I'm getting old, but games lately don't seem to have that joy I remember when first playing Asheron's Call.

You can use the current installation for retail! You'll just have to use the CD-Key for account authentication.

Play whatever you want. I'm making a Night Elf Priest, Night Elf Warrior (maybe Rogue instead), and maybe another undecided class. I've played a priest to 32 and a warrior to 16 and still have desire to play both.

-Lasereth

Then say you don't enjoy games as much as you used to, not just WoW! Or at least describe the reasons you didn't like the game.

-Lasereth

OK:

1. Lag was terrible
2. Lots of clipping issues
3. Lack of balance between races or classes
4. Quests incredibly repetitive, mind numbingly so
5. Quests have no relatinship to storyline at all as far as I could tell up to level 25
6. Lack of customization options for character appearance
7. Extremely bland range of options for appearance
8. No option to change job and keep the same character, I think FFXI spoiled me here
9. Chat commands use non-standard commands
10. PvP seems to have very little consequence for dying
11. Professions extremely unbalanced for making money
12. Money means nothing, incredibly easy to get

I'll think of more...

I probably wont be getting the game until after semester break when i go back to school (i don’t have broadband at home). Although the lag was shitty, i expect it to be better once it goes retail.

I've also been having the character dilemma. I got my NE Hunter up to lvl 22. I want to see what a hunter can do at higher lvls, and I'm sure I would be able to get to my lvl fast since i already know what to do, but I’m not too crazy with the idea of redoing what I’ve done up to this point
I think I'm going to try being a caster. I can't imagine playing the game as a ranged/caster without having a pet to tank for me, so I'm going to make a HU Warlock who has the ability to summon pets. (and his own horse!)



I found the opposite to be true

During OB, I played as a Human Warlock. Had lots of fun playing it and I would love to see how it does at higher levels, so I'll probably stick with that when the game is released.

How much fun was this last day? There were people dancing nake in the streets (me) and mages shooting off fireworks like there was no tommarow. I guess there isn't. :( Horde every where, Raids going on from both sides, it was crazy. We dueled like mad, and said our good-bye's until retail. Awesome game. Is it the 23rd yet?

Yeah,spent the last four hours doing nothing but full scale PvP raids.Ended up dying (for the last time) inside the Throne room in The Undercity.

I really enjoyed the one week I got to play it. Yes, item lag was an issue at times but hey it's beta. My first 20 levels I thought the quests were kind of repetitive (incursion type quests like kill x amount of y mobs or deliver this not to person p at location z).

Then I did my first instanced quest, VanCleef in the deadmines and I was blown away. Awesome stuff. Not to mention the Paladin quest available at level 20 which is a fairly huge undertaking. Sadly I didn't get to finish it before beta closed.

Keep in mind that most storydriven quests are NOT in beta and are tested internally since Blizz didn't want to spoil too much. So there should be plenty more to come in retail.

I will definitely buy and play WoW but not until it comes out in Europe. Mainly because it's a hassle getting my American friends to pay for my account and secondly...let them deal with the crap (read bugs) on launch day and the following weeks :D

--jaded

i thought about getting this game as i play/played most blizzard games(diablo diablo2 warcraft)only one i havent tryed is startcraft i think....but this game looks like it would kill my computer so im trying too get the money too build me a nice one.....so is the game worth 15 a month??

when does it go retail.. i see both blizzard and walmart have it up for full edition sales already?

If you've played any other MMO's you should check this one out for sure. I think the game is worth $15/month provided they do frequent updates adding new quests, items etc etc which, I'm sure they will.

And the game goes live November 23rd, next tuesday, barring any setbacks with the latest patch.

--jaded

I had over 50 gold by level 10, mainly off skinning my kills and the kills of anyone else around me who didn't have it. At the time I left I had well over 300 gold and top notch equipment.

See, that I'll buy, because the number of unskinned corpses around was insane. I think not many people took that skill.

I won't be buying the game, but not out of any flaw...at least with the game. I can't afford to own a game that I play to the exclusion of all else. Tuesday I just sat at my computer from 8 AM to 1 AM, getting up only to use the bathroom or get something to eat. It's a great game, and fun as hell, and I'm sad I can't let myself own it.

well our star wars galaxy guild which is about 15 or so is moving to wow. Enigma dont know what server yet though .. im gonna me either a warlock or a mage.. leaning more to mage... area dmg spells and teleport are my all time fav spells

oh and btw.. with the money shelled out to them a month they better have a awesome plan to stop the hacking than what they do for thier other games.. or it will bomb horribly

Yeah I was pretty bummed I couldn't partake in the craziness lastnight. I had to spend the evening packing for my trip home for Thanksgiving. I'm pretty sure I'll be buying retail, but probably not for a week or two after it's release.

Looking forward to seeing you all again out in the WoW world.
-T

I really had a good time, great game, pre ordering tonight

You gotta be mixing up "gold" and "silver." Most players don't have 100 gold until level 40 or after. 50 silver is reasonable at level 10...some players had around 300 silver by the end of OB as well. That's not a lot of money, however...it's average. When you get to 20+, spells start costing 50 silver each. Then you're broke until level 40. :)

-Lasereth

Lasereth, I know the difference between gold and silver. I put a lot of time into the game, hoping I would enjoy it more than I did.

Ok, then I call bullshit. :) Most level 60's in the game don't have 300 gold.

I played Closed Beta since last March with an extremely strong economy and my character never had more than 30 gold on hand. My brother's character had 200 gold at one point which is considered extremely rich. There's no possible way your character had 50 gold at level 10 and especially not 300 gold by the end of OB. People who played the game since March have a hard time getting 300 gold, much less in a week and a half.

-Lasereth

I am going to buy it, but not sure if I will get it Tuesday. I don't want to get sucked in right now as I got a ton to do around the house and WoW will just make me forget to do stuff like that! I'm going to run two characters; Orc Hunter with mining/engineering and an Undead Rogue with skinning as a profession. In OB I got my Hunter up to 26 and Rogue up to 20. I really liked the Hunter in both PvP/PvE...I had heard a lot of bad stuff about them but once I learned the ins and outs the class really shines. Add the nifty(but bank account draining) tools of engineering and you have quite a good PvP character. People just don't expect exploding sheep these days. :thumbsup:

Las - I could see Sean getting a ton of gold...but 300 is a lot. There were skinable corpses everywhere. That was the reason I started skinning on my Rogue. I would send the skins to my hunter who could use some of the materials in engineering, the others I would sell in the AH...I made some good cash which I reinvested back into engineering.

Either way....look out you Alliance scumbags, this Orc is gonna be hanging your skulls on my wall!!

Seriously.. 300g at level 15 is so blatantly impossible that it's almost not even worth responding to. You could maybe accumulate 50g at lvl 15 if you spent months not leveling (and so not spending money on spells, durability, food/water) and just farming for tradeskillers.

I'm not your average casual gamer either. I don't go into games to dick around. I go into them with the intention of being the strongest, richest person there. Don't call bullshit on something just because you weren't able to catch on to something and use it to your advantage. Hunting in populated zones made skinning extremely profitable. Corpses other people kill and don't skin are like picking up dollar bills off the street.

Who said level 15?

Well he never said at what lvl he had 300 gold...maybe he's accounting for all the money he's spent plus the money on his person?
I never had more than 2 gold since there is always shit to buy.

But if its true...

Onyxia is pretty cool looking, even if the group of 40 or so I was with did get wiped with her at around 80% life. What level did you guys get to that seem to know everything about the game?

bullshit :thumbsup: if you only played in Open Beta, I call extreme bullshit. There is no way humanly possible you could do that. Ever. Even with skinning and all that crap. I've been playing since February, have a level 51 Mage, and I never once got near 300 Gold, and I fully understood the economy and how to make lots of money. I'm sorry, I respect your opinion, but don't down the game by saying you made 300 gold in Open Beta. There's no way.




I would believe it if you played in Closed Beta though. Possibly. The only reason I had 250 G at one point is because I found an armor piece in a level 50+ zone that drops about 1 out of 10,000 monsters. Other than that, I would pretty much only have around 30-60 G at one time. That's only because you can accumulate money really quick in places like Stranglethorn Vale, etc. Which is only fightable at level 35 and above. Sorry man.

I just realized I will believe you if you show me a screen shot of your character with 300 Gold. But I'm guessing you "deleted your character" or something like that. Or you won't "get to the servers in time" before the Open Beta ends today. How convenient :thumbsup:

I understand your viewpoint. The entire reason I play MMORPGs is to become way too rich for my own good. I did that in CB, and at the height of my money-making "career" I was making 15-30 gold per day raping the AH. The only reason this worked was because there was hundreds of level 60 people who wanted certain items in the game and had the money to make my scheme work.

There's two or three people in my guild who are skinners and they're also calling complete bullshit. Two of them skin every single monster they see and say that they can only make about 10s per hour skinning. In other words, around 1G per day is reasonable.

There's simply no possible way you have that much money in WoW, especially when others that know how to get massive quantities of money (me) can't even make 1G before level 10 reasonably.

300G in 1.5 weeks is absurd. I believe with 100% confidence that you've confused what 1 Silver is and what 1 Gold is. If you switch around your terms then it makes sense.

-Lasereth

Oh, and another way would simply be to send one of us that money in the game since it's getting erased. That'd prove it. :)

-Lasereth

This thread went to shit pretty quickly.


If he says he made 300g,who cares?

I played for a week and at my richest point I had 3g. :D
Then again I wasn't really into money-making but rather questing and exploring. Made it to level 22.

--jaded

Question:

Caydiem posted: The Central and Eastern realms are coming down for maintenance. This is not the end of Open Beta; the realms should be back up in approximately two hours. Thank you for your patience!

While the website reads: In preparation for the upcoming retail launch of World of Warcraft, we will be taking the North American open beta servers offline on Thursday, November 18. While this will mark the end of the open beta test, there will still be some work left for us to do. To provide the best experience possible at launch, we will be making numerous final optimizations to our hardware based on the data we've acquired during the open beta test.


Conflicting information? Or maybe I'm missing something?

i have 1000 gold and i am lvl 13..call bullshit on that...please sirs...

ok...bullshit!

exactly..i'll admit it..it was bullshit..but anyone can say they have something, you don't have to flame them in the open and try to coerce them into making you show them..if you don't believe them..don't believe them..it is that easy.

Some of you guys are saying that the beta is over, but they took the servers down for maintenence and they should be back up for the rest of the day.

I think they'll leave the servers up until late tonight or so...at least I hope. I wanna get in some more PvP before they shut em down!

there was a huge pvp war on the server i play on..i missed out cuz of one of my classes..but i have screenshots of the aftermath...and DAMN there were so many corpses!

It's not that easy when the person is faulting the game over it. He's saying that the game is boring because you can get money too easily. Faulting the game is fine, but ya at least need proof of it!

-Lasereth

HOLY HELL!! It's chaos right now...there are Infernals in Orgrimmar killing everything in site!

Actually I posted a list of about a dozen things I didn't like about the game, its you who only picked one of them to talk about. I didn't say the game was boring either, it was a list of things that I was dissapointed with how they were handled.

As for the 300 gold, yes, I was including the amount I had spent on my equipment in that number. I also played with a guild of around 60 people who have played together for years in various games. The majority of them have been in cb since it started. We work together to get characters powerfull. My character was online almost the entire time the servers were up, as I was sharing him with a friend who didn't get in. He's currently taking a semester off college, and has a ton of time to waste. so he was online every time I got off. Call bullshit all you want, doesn't matter to me.

IT'S OVER!!!!! sadface

Few pics of the insanity!!

Infernal 5 - Marlarchuck 0.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...dt08/wow_3.jpg

Mini Infernals in the Crossroads.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...dt08/wow_1.jpg

Dreadlord hits you for 1546.


This was the joy in Stormwind. ;p

how do you get moe than one box? for chat and for damage? and how do you have an overall dps thing?

and how do you have those extra action bars!?!!?! TEACH ME!!

I got a movie of the destruction in Goldshire. Enjoy!

<A HREF=http://www.appstate.edu/~bt52438/movie.zip>End of Days!</A>

-Lasereth

I use cosmos as my UI. Once you use it you'll never want to go back to the normal ui as it has tons of options to use. If you want combat in another window just grab the tab at the top and drag it over.

WoW left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I played for about 2 weeks in closed beta off and on, and didn't really care for the feel. When open beta came out, I tried it again, to my suprise, I like it.

Until last night, I hit level 25 and went to pvp, and the pvp was nothing but carebear DAoC type boring, useless, meaningless pvp, just people killing each other for no reason. And the size of the zergs, well, thats another issue in itself. I'm going to play it, but I was truely disapointed in what content pvp had, which was nothing. I hope the raid content, pvp content and other things go in soon after release. If it doesnt, when people start getting up there, it's going to be extremely boring.

I agree. That's definitely Blizzard's biggest challenge...they haven't put ANY of the PVP aspects into the game yet. Not a single damned one. Where's the massive battlegrounds? Where's the siege engines? Where's the freakin honor system (which is the fundamental WoW PVP system)? None of it is in the game and it's coming out in a week. The only reason I'm not too concerned with this fact is that PVP in WoW really only gets interesting after level 30 or 40 so Blizzard has a fair amount of time to get these features in after retail. If they delay too long then they're gonna lose customers.

-Lasereth

Well it's finally all over, went down at 8pm PST. I didn't think it was up most of the day and stayed away, but got in for an hour tonight. Dread Lords, huge things I couldn't even see the top of to determine what they were, being turned into a chicken for 30 minutes and killing a hordie while in chicken form, getting Van Cleef's fucking head, hanging out with TFPers inside and outside RedJake's clan, laughing, drinking, dancing, fighting, looting. When I logged onto my first test server at the start of the final Stress Test my /who all showed me to be the only person (and first i think) in the zone.

I seriously enjoyed these past few weeks. If I was employed I would say I was certain to be there first day of retail, as it is I'll have to see if I can at all. I got my Pally up to lvl 26 and finally realized I was enjoying the major changes they made on my class mid-test.

Good game.

ERr, the week the die hard gamers will get to 30-40 and within a month your average player will be hitting 30-40...I hope they just had that aspect turned off. What disappointed me was seeing what Sony did for Galaxies and EQ2. Player cities, houses, guild houses, your own player website generated and hosted by Sony, a generated guild site, etc. WoW is just a straight, run of the mill MMO with no fluff and no extra niceties that you see in the more current ones.

Also, I found the economy to be dull. With only 10 primary professions and everyone can take 2, it's not very hard to find someone within a guild that has a profession you need something from. I don't see any type of real economy except higher level items ever really taking off, which is a shame. WoW is a good solid game, but it's missing the nice touches that make it great.

The beta just ended 10 minutes ago..

I tried to play as a casual "average" player and wound up playing 3 hours a day on average for 10 days (had about 1day 5hours when the OB ended) which I think is a little excessive to be considered average. I was only to level 14 when the game ended, so I don't think that "average" players who aren't "hardcore" about leveling will be to 30-40 within a month. Just my opinion though, of course we all have different opinions on what the "average player" is.

I got my Rogue up to lvl 19 withen the time frame of open beta, and I had skinning, and leatherworking as my trade professions, and I did skin every beast I killed, and many many more I didn't kill, and at the end, I had 1 gold, 6 silver, and a few copper, and I thought I was freaking rich! There are a few items in the game, if you know where to get them, that can be sold in the auctions that will net you huge profits, like the small pearls, that are a component in some leather making recipies. You pick them up from opening clams, and you only get 1 out of every 10 or so clams you collect, and the clams only drop from every 1 out of 10 or so crabs you kill, but people will pay (sometimes) 5-10 silver for them, I had 6-7 of them that I sold towards the end of OB that netted me most of my money. I used all of my leather that I skinned to make armor, which I used or sold for more than the leather was worth. I could see making tons of money off of skinning, but the game wouldn't be that much fun, all you would be doing is skinning, and not questing, or lvling up...
It was an awesome game, and I will be there on the opening day of retail. My only problem is that I cannot find a store that will let me pre-order a collectors edition of the game, they are all sold out! I want my Panda!

Yeah I needed a lustorious pearl to tailor some sweet armor. Never got around to getting out.

I had a Human Paladin that did Mining/Blacksmithing (big surprise).


I refused to touch EQ tradeskills,but I loved Mining and Blacksmithing.I could make items that were actually useful to myself and to my friends.

Also,discovering a new mine (like mithril) for the first time is awesome."OMGOMGOMG MITHRIL,FUCKING MOVE"

I was a hunter who took mining and engineering. While engeineering is not the best profession it complements the gun using hunter quite well. Engineering is pretty easy to get up 180 before you'll be needing better ore to help build up skill and you can make some nifty items such as target dummies and exploding sheep. This is were I ran into mining problems though my skill in engineering had bypassed what I was able to mine myself....and as a hunter/engineer I was pretty much poor. I only started to find iron mines near the end of the beta so I really didnt get much higher than 140 mining. If I go hunter I'll probably follow the same route though as I will have time to find more mines. :)

I've been using Herbalism on almost all my characters. You can make some useful buff potions for yourself and people do buy potions though nobody ever sells them - which was good for me.

The best "untapped" resourse I found in the game is linen or silk shirts. The give no bonuses, in fact if you don't wear a shirt at all, it changes nothing, except how you look. I wanted a theme for my rogue, so I had Dark Leather boots, cape, everything, dark leather. But when I put on my flaming red shirt it just threw off the whole image. I probably whould have paid 10-15 silver for one, and I am sure that there are other people out there who care about apperence as well. Might be something to think about...

I did the mining blacksmith route for my pally too. I wound up making most of my own armor and about half of my weapons. I really enjoyed it and made my friends a bunch of stuff too. I needed 2 of those lusterous (sp?) (2nd level i think) pearls for my last/best chest armor and wound up paying 2.5g for 1 and 3g for another. Ya, I paid too much and wiped out my cash reserve but wow that was some sweet armor!

My comments on the economy. You really can't base your thoughts on the games economy on what you experienced in a 2-3 week period. The economy was in it's infancy in that time period. When last ST/OB started I was making a killing selling linen bags for 4s each. (my first ST toon was a warlock). as the economy got "older" I would up getting less and less for them (ya know that whole supply/demand thingee). Prices on "rare" trade goods like wool, medium/heavy leather & hides, bronze dropped pretty quickly as more and more people reached levels and content areas that allowed the supply to increase. I didn't start finding silver and iron until the last couple of days of OB, never got any mithril, but I rarely saw iron in the AH. I imagine though that another 2 weeks or so and it would have been relatively common.

People that used the AH to sell stuff made lots more money than those who didn't. I met player after player who didn't use AH and dumped their green and sometimes blue items with a vendor. Meanwhile I'm crafting pearl handled daggers left and right and making a killing.

The economy is somewhat simplistic but we saw it in its infancy. With 6g in my pocket at level 25 I found I had far more money than anyone else I talked to or grouped with. Of course 2 pearls and level 26 training left me with a lot less...

I really miss it though! Must find some freelance work next week to pay for WoW. Must!

Edit to say about the backstory (I'm not going to do hit by hit of IrishSean's issues, I think you must be getting old dude :) ) did you read any of the letters and other things you carried for quests? I thought it all fit in quite nicely with the backstory and I was really enjoying seeing what was going on...

Pearls come from the Oysters that the crabs dropped in Darkshore, you better believe I will be there ganking some crabs as soon as I get high enough lvl to kill those things! I think they were lvl 15-17 in the open beta. I only saw maybe 1 or 2 other people out there killing them too, such an untapped resourse! :thumbsup:

Lustrious Pearls can be farmed off most lvl18+ sea creatures that drop clams which can be opened. Crabs in Westfall along the beach drop them so do the lvl18 Murlocks and the lvl20-25 Murlocks in the Swamplands drop the clams too. The chance of finding a Lustrious Pearl is about 1/30 clams.

This has been bothering me for some time now. What exactly does detect magic do? It sounds self explanitory, but i used it and didn't see its effect. Any mages out there that can help me on this one?

I have found it to be closer to 1/15-20 clams (oysters, whatever) I killed maybe 20 crabs in darkshore, got 2 pearls... maybe the odds were in my favor that day...