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Redjake 11-04-2004 01:28 PM

Join Redjake's World of Warcraft Guild!
 
Ok guys, here's the official details of my guild. Anyone who is interested, feel free to reply with questions or comments.

The guild's name: Heroes of the Universe

Name analysis: The name is supposed to be anti-serious. We're tired of all these "Knights of Honor" and "Divine Divinity" and "Brotherhood of Steel" shits. So we have two choices: Go completely non-serious or go ironically non-serious. We chose Heroes of the Universe because it is the most outrageous guild name you can have when it comes to this genre of games. We aren't only Heroes of the area. We aren't Heroes of only Azeroth and Kalimdor. We aren't even Heroes of the entire planet. We're Heroes of the entire fucking Universe!

Server status: East Coast PVP, Server name unknown until retail

The mission of the guild: To become one of the biggest (if not the biggest) guild on our server. To vanquish the opposing Horde faction(s) within reasonable limits (we're not going to newb-slaughter or anything, unless they attack first).


The reason of us starting a guild? Myself, along with Lasereth and BltzkriegMcCanon, have considerable experience with playing the game. We know how to level up incredibly fast (if you're into that sort of thing), make money really fast, and most of all, we can PvP (Lasereth anyway to a freakish extent). We want to spread the word of our ways, while maintaining a guild and letting it grow to epidemic....well not epidemic proportions, but definitely outrageous. We are, after all, the Heroes of the Universe. That's no easy task, therefore we'll need as many members as possible.


Guidelines:

1. No ignorance allowed.
2. No assholes allowed (you know who you are).
3. No dishonorable players (don't attack people who are more than 10 levels below you, unless they attack first).
4. You will pay a fee of 1 Gold per day to Me, Lasereth, or BltzkriegMcCanon. Just kidding.
5. Try to help out your fellow guildmates as much as possible. This isn't *required,* but recommended. Lasereth over there has 37 pieces of flair. Don't you want to express yourself? This doesn't mean Power Leveling or anything, just answering questions in the guild channel or helping a member being attacked by another guild. Stuff like that.
6. Superiority is NOT based on your level. It is based on maturity.
7. No trash-talking or name-calling or any of that crap. If you get in an argument, that's fine, but don't start insulting other people with personal attacks.
8. AOL chat is acceptable, but don't over-do it. Example: r u a newb? can i hav sum gold plz?kkkkkkkk? We want to minimize this. Sort of like at TFP. The standard chat protocols in our culture are acceptable such as LOL, ROFL, LMAO, etc., but try to use them correctly. Also try not to overuse them (i.e. saying LOL after every sentence).
9. We understand if you consider English a second language for you, but try to keep understandable sentences part of your repitoire.
10. There is no minimum level requirement or specific race or class. We are an Alliance guild, however, so Horde players can't join.
11. Try your best (at opportune times only) to recruit new members. If someone seems like a good player, ask them if they want to be in a guild (ours) devoted to being the Heroes of the entire Universe. Don't pester anyone though about it. DO NOT recruit people who violate these guidelines.


These guidelines will be updated at our website (which will be up shortly).


This thread will be updated with information on what server we'll be playing on once the game goes Retail.

If you're interested in our guild, reply. Try to get into the Open Beta which is coming up very soon to get a taste of the game and get some experience in.

Ask not what your guild can do for you, ask what you can do for your guild!


We won't make you call the "officers" by "sir" or anything like that. That's just stupid. The only "power" we have over you is whether or not you stay in the guild. As soon as the guild is strengthened, we *may* divide the guild into "companies" or "platoons" for PvP and Raid purposes. Nothing complicated.


If you are in a battle, try to do your part. Priests need to heal, warriors need to take all the hits as much as possible, mages need to bring the pain at a distance, etc. Don't venture into someone else's territory unless absolutely necessary. This is what makes parties work. Also, if we are in a PvP battle or Raid, attack one person at a time designated by the group leader. 10 people hitting one person kills them in about 5 seconds. 10 people hitting 10 people gets your group dead.


Our mission (along with what was mentioned before) is to have fun! Anyone caught violating this mission of having fun will be kicked out. Smiles on EVERYONE'S faces! :thumbsup:

Irishsean 11-04-2004 02:18 PM

Crap, I can't join because I'm an asshole?

-Ever- 11-04-2004 02:24 PM

I was hoping to play with you guys but I don't really like the idea of huge clans. I played Quake with a really fun, serious clan for a while but I grew a little upset when I began seeing people I didn't know sporting our name (IE people invited people who invited people...).

That's just me though. I just like the personal feel of having fewer people. I'm jealous you guys have been playing for so long! My first taste isn't going to be until the OB!

-Tim

Redjake 11-04-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishsean
Crap, I can't join because I'm an asshole?


in-game assholes :thumbsup:


you can be an asshole to everyone around you in the real world for all I care :)

Irishsean 11-04-2004 03:37 PM

Ok, any particular server for the OB that everyone will be on?

Rudel73 11-04-2004 03:53 PM

ok random question...which classes are considered the tanks for alliance and horde? paladin?? im so confused!

00111000 11-04-2004 03:58 PM

Warriors are the main tanks for both Horde/Alliance. Pallys can fill the role for the Alliance but will never be as good as a warrior. For the Horde the Shaman is supposed to be the secondary tank I believe.


What about a west coast guild? Anyone planning on starting one of them...PvP of course. :thumbsup:

reiii 11-04-2004 03:58 PM

I'm on a test server that's not PVP. Could you explain what a pvp server entails? That would be my only reservation in joining the guild.

I'm also considering playing a shadow priest, which would mean my 'Job' would not be to heal...acceptable?

00111000 11-04-2004 04:02 PM

From the WoW site. Realm descriptions . That should sum it up for ya.

Irishsean 11-04-2004 04:07 PM

Priests job is to heal, even if your a Shadow spec in a group. If you tell a group you won't heal, bubye.

Even shadow spec priests can heal well, about on par or better than most other healing classes.

Lasereth 11-04-2004 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Ever-
I was hoping to play with you guys but I don't really like the idea of huge clans. I played Quake with a really fun, serious clan for a while but I grew a little upset when I began seeing people I didn't know sporting our name (IE people invited people who invited people...).

That's just me though. I just like the personal feel of having fewer people. I'm jealous you guys have been playing for so long! My first taste isn't going to be until the OB!

-Tim

We're not gonna get so huge that we don't know our own members! Don't worry about one of <I>those</I> guilds. This isn't a "get as many members as possible the fastest" guilds, it's a "get as many <I>respectable</I> guild members as possible" guilds. If ya don't wanna join, it's all good, but we'd love to have ya!

-Lasereth

Lasereth 11-04-2004 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudel73
ok random question...which classes are considered the tanks for alliance and horde? paladin?? im so confused!

For the alliance, Warriors are the main tanks with Paladins being the secondary and Rogues being third. The Horde has Warriors as the main and Shaman as the secondary.

-Lasereth

Rudel73 11-04-2004 04:39 PM

ok good chance i'll join up with you then! i want to be a tank so warrior is the class what race???

Lasereth 11-04-2004 04:47 PM

You can choose Human, Night Elf, Dwarf, or Gnome for the Alliance!

-Lasereth

Crack 11-04-2004 06:27 PM

I am so in on this. I was thinking of Ranger or Druid. Can either you redjake, or lasereth give me your points of view on either profession. Also, can you guys maybe explain the PVP aspect a little more, can anyone just go up to anyone else in the game and start whacking away, or is is only Alliance VS Horde combat?
This is so going to rock out with it's cock out when the Open Beta starts!

Lasereth 11-04-2004 06:33 PM

I've never played a Hunter or a Druid but I'll sum them up very quickly: a Hunter uses guns and a pet to do combat. The pet attacks the enemy and the Hunter shoots the enemy from afar with a rifle. Druids are basically a jack of all trades class. They're second rate healers, mages, and tanks. That bad part is that they're not REALLY good at any of those.

On the PVP server it's Alliance versus Horde. Any Alliance member can attack any Horde member whenever they want to anywhere in the entire world. Members of the same faction can duel each other but can't kill each other like A vs H.

-Lasereth

portwineboy 11-04-2004 07:05 PM

I'm up for joining with you guys, sounds like it could be fun.

I'm on Beta 4 pvp/east coast server (aka the "wait in line server") with a lvl 14 warlock (Maude). Not sure if I'll take the warlock retail but knowing the quests made leveling a lot easier this time around. I also have a Tauren hunter at level 10 on a carebear server just to mess around. Pets & guns are cool, I have to admit.

Crack 11-04-2004 07:06 PM

I think the Hunter is the direction I am heading then. Night Elf Hunter.

BTW, this Spirit Healer looks awesome!
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/sc...death/ss04.jpg

Lasereth 11-04-2004 07:16 PM

There's currently a petition going around on the Priest forums for Blizzard to implement a Holy Form for Priests as a talent at level 60. The model would be the Spirit Healer of course. :) Movement would be reduced but healing would go up a bit. Shadow spells wouldn't be available in the Holy Form.

I think it's a hell of an idea. :)

-Lasereth

Crack 11-04-2004 08:02 PM

I am reading the Hunter Forum's at Worldofwarcraft.com, and it seems that the hunter class get's no respect at all. There are a lot of people complaining about hunters being extremely underpowered in range, and the new skills that were just put out under the new stress test still do not make up for it.

-Ever- 11-04-2004 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackprogram
I am reading the Hunter Forum's at Worldofwarcraft.com, and it seems that the hunter class get's no respect at all. There are a lot of people complaining about hunters being extremely underpowered in range, and the new skills that were just put out under the new stress test still do not make up for it.

I think I heard somewhere that Hunters are also not desired because they kill at range so it makes it hard for them to pick up items when others are around. :thumbsup:

-Ever- 11-04-2004 08:16 PM

Well I'm mad excited. I'm not sure what I want to be though. Can I just treat it like Diablo 2 and just make one or two characters and go from there seeing which I like? Sorcs were definitely my favorite (Nova + Teleport rocked). I did rock a tanking barb for a while though...

-T

Crack 11-04-2004 08:27 PM

One more question; what is this "Hero Class" I keep reading about, is this something like becoming a Jedi in SWG? Or is this this just another lvl after lvl 60?

Slayer 11-04-2004 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redjake
10. There is no minimum level requirement or specific race or class. We are an Alliance guild, however, so Horde players can't join.

argh that sucks! :| Most of the alliance character look ugly... Humans and Dwarfs are ugly(except female human...), Gnomes looks like 60 yr old midget. Night elf looks alright.

Well I had more fun being a horde character than alliance in the closed beta. so I'm going to be a Tauren Hunter and my mission is to hunt down the Heroes of the Universe. :p

bltzkriegmcanon 11-05-2004 05:00 AM

We'll be looking for ya chief! ::thumbsup::

Lasereth 11-05-2004 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackprogram
I am reading the Hunter Forum's at Worldofwarcraft.com, and it seems that the hunter class get's no respect at all. There are a lot of people complaining about hunters being extremely underpowered in range, and the new skills that were just put out under the new stress test still do not make up for it.

Hunters suck in PVP right now. They're decent but only if you're a really good gamer. In other words, on average, they get slaughtered. They're not really desired in groups either. The one thing Hunters are very good at is soloing in PvE. Hunters don't have talents yet so many players are still complaining. Hunters WILL have talents in Open Beta so that should relieve some complaints!

-Lasereth

Lasereth 11-05-2004 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Ever-
I think I heard somewhere that Hunters are also not desired because they kill at range so it makes it hard for them to pick up items when others are around. :thumbsup:

That's bullcrap. Whoever you heard it from is inexperienced. :thumbsup: WoW looting is very simple. Set the system to Round Robin and everyone in the group takes turns looting. There's no such thing as one person taking everything unless the entire group agrees on it for some extraneous reason.

-Lasereth

Lasereth 11-05-2004 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackprogram
One more question; what is this "Hero Class" I keep reading about, is this something like becoming a Jedi in SWG? Or is this this just another lvl after lvl 60?

It's not implemented yet and there's no official plans of it. Blizzard has stated that they're "looking into a Hero class." You're right, it would basically be a class after level 60 that made you seriously awesome if you fought enough or killed enough players in PVP.

-Lasereth

Lasereth 11-05-2004 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer
argh that sucks! :| Most of the alliance character look ugly... Humans and Dwarfs are ugly(except female human...), Gnomes looks like 60 yr old midget. Night elf looks alright.

Well I had more fun being a horde character than alliance in the closed beta. so I'm going to be a Tauren Hunter and my mission is to hunt down the Heroes of the Universe. :p

Dwarves and gnomes look seriously stupid but I like the human and night elf models. I wouldn't mind having a guild full of Night Elves and Humans! :) Of course, Gnomes and Dwarves are welcomed in full force, I just don't like their models. Oh, and if you do go Horde, play on our server so we can come and waste ya! :thumbsup:

-Lasereth

-Ever- 11-05-2004 02:01 PM

Ey Lasereth, any way you can comment on my last post regarding the gameplay I'm used to in terms of helping me decide which character I should start with?

Thanks for helping everyone out so far :thumbsup:
-T

Lasereth 11-05-2004 02:35 PM

Yeah man, just create however many you want! There's only one way to find out which character you'll like and that's by testing them. You can make 8 characters per server.

-Lasereth

bltzkriegmcanon 11-05-2004 02:37 PM

I think you should do what you've always done, try both. If you like meleeing, then go for a melee class like Paladin or Warrior. If you like casting, then go for Mages or Warlocks. Build your experience around what you want to do. You can develop this game to be whatever you want it to be.

BuddyHawks 11-05-2004 03:15 PM

I hope this dosnt end up being like diablo where certain character builds were the best and everyone made cookie cutter characters. I plan on being a NE druid with focus on healing spells and shapeshifting.

Redjake 11-05-2004 05:38 PM

ok guys, it's set in stone. I just pre-ordered the Special Edition or whatever it's called (80 bucks). Open Beta starts Monday! Gentlemen, start your engines!

Crack 11-06-2004 03:37 AM

How do you guys feel about the racial traits? http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...l-bonuses.html

Does this give any race an imbalance?

n0nsensical 11-06-2004 04:15 AM

I might take you up on this; it all depends whether I decide to play EQ2, WoW, or neither. I want to play whichever one is most like EQ1 in Kunark era (but it seems that they're both about equally UNlike it). Right now "neither" is winning. I don't really like the race/class selections of WoW. The only race I like is Night Elf, the only classes I like are Mage and Shaman, and I don't want to be on the same team as Gnomes and Dwarves, so you can see I have a major problem here since those don't go together. I'd try being a Cow Shaman but that would put me on the wrong team for your guild, and also make me an ugly cow, a definite disadvantage. Night Elf Warrior is also a possibility. So I'll screw around with some different combinations during open beta and see if I come up with something that I like better.

bltzkriegmcanon 11-06-2004 07:45 AM

That's really what it's all about, feeling your way through what you want to play as.

portwineboy 11-06-2004 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackprogram
How do you guys feel about the racial traits? http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...l-bonuses.html

Does this give any race an imbalance?

Well, I think the human traits are pretty bad. Swords? Gee, that helps a warlock a lot....but it could be a lack of experience as I thought Perception was pretty useless until a orc rogue magically appeared right in front of me last night and stunned/backstabbed me in about 2 seconds. :hmm:

Lasereth 11-06-2004 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackprogram
How do you guys feel about the racial traits? http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...l-bonuses.html

Does this give any race an imbalance?

The Undead are REALLY powerful now. Paladins used to have an advantage over them and now that advantage is negated. Undead aren't listed as Undead anymore...they're listed as humanoid. Paladins have a ton of anti-undead spells.

Most of the traits seem useless to me. The sword thing is actually pretty neat because rogues, warriors, mages, and maybe warlocks can all use swords as humans.

I'll have to test out these traits during Open Beta to have an accurate feel on it.

-Lasereth

Crack 11-06-2004 09:10 PM

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...ded-ogre.shtml

You have got to be kidding me!
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By selecting the Two-headed Ogre race, you are selflessly choosing to share your existence in World of Warcraft with another player. That is, you are staking claim to one half of the Ogre whole. As a Two-headed Ogre, you will have control of one head and one arm at all times. Your other half will be controlled by a second player automatically and permanently paired with you upon character creation. Each player residing in the Ogre body will be free to choose his or her own character class at creation, so for example, it is possible to have a Two-headed Ogre who is half Mage and half Warrior. It is also possible to have two halves of the same character class, depending on the random pairing. Two-headed Ogres serve the Horde, and in keeping with the theme of their inherent duality, their starting zone will be located near the Crossroads, which resides in the Barrens region of Kalimdor. The classes available to Two-headed Ogres are: Mage, Warrior, Priest, Druid, and Warlock. Sharing a single body with another player can produce an mutually enlightening, symbiotic relationship or a constricting, insanely frustrating experience depending on the player you are randomly matched with. Good luck to you!
This simply cannot be real.

bltzkriegmcanon 11-06-2004 09:27 PM

Hmm. Looks real, but old. All the pictures, text and menu setup appears to be an old Blizzard standard, but, something bothers me about it. I can't find the information on it by going through worldofwarcraft.com's main page. Also, when following up on the other race pages, the layout is quite different. Hmm, I'm not too sure on this one.

BuddyHawks 11-06-2004 09:49 PM

that
is
awesome

i probably wont be trying this untill i get bored with the game, as it seems to be more for comedic purposes rather than practical.

and its legit. people are talking about it on the fourms
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For example, if one particular Ogre's left head is named "Jonny" while the right head is named "Bob," the full name of the Two-headed Ogre and the name attached to communications with the outside world will be "JonnyBob." Since both heads speak with this single name, there is no way for other players to know which of the heads within one body is speaking. Thus, it is important to discuss these external communications internally first to avoid appearing schizophrenic.
lol

portwineboy 11-06-2004 11:56 PM

It's got to be a hoax, did you read the chat windows in the screenshots? hilarious and ridiculous.

n0nsensical 11-07-2004 12:41 AM

http://www.allrpg.com/rpgnews/news_show.php?newsid=1678

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Thursday, April 1, 2004
The World of Warcraft Sees Arrival of Two Headed Ogres
Who wants a whole ogre if half will suffice?
Blizzard announced today that their new MMORPG World of Warcraft will include the race Two-Headed Ogres as a playable race. The race will give two separate players simultaneous control of a single body.

By selecting the Two-headed Ogre race, you are selflessly choosing to share your existence in World of Warcraft with another player. That is, you are staking claim to one half of the Ogre whole. As a Two-headed Ogre, you will have control of one head and one arm at all times. Your other half will be controlled by a second player automatically and permanently paired with you upon character creation.
Nuff said =P

Lasereth 11-07-2004 12:53 AM

It was the April Fool's joke for this year. OLD!@!!!! :)

-Lasereth

Slayer 11-07-2004 01:19 PM

You guys going to be on test server 9 or 14? Only server 9 and 14 are PVP, other test server are PVE.

I already got a head start on server 9 with my tauren :thumbsup: Just drop a line which server you guys going to be in.

-Ever- 11-07-2004 02:39 PM

I'm still confused about the difference between PVE and PVP servers. I did some reading at the WoW websites but still have some basic questions.

Can you do all of the quests in the PVP server? Is the PVP's main difference just that you're able to go hostile against other players or is the server just one large battleground made for people to fight eachother in? I'd like it if it were the first so it's a little more realistic while I quest, but I'll stick to the PVE if I'm going to be PK'ed all day while I'm trying to quest.

Thanks for any info.
-Tim

Lasereth 11-07-2004 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Ever-
I'm still confused about the difference between PVE and PVP servers. I did some reading at the WoW websites but still have some basic questions.

Can you do all of the quests in the PVP server? Is the PVP's main difference just that you're able to go hostile against other players or is the server just one large battleground made for people to fight eachother in? I'd like it if it were the first so it's a little more realistic while I quest, but I'll stick to the PVE if I'm going to be PK'ed all day while I'm trying to quest.

Thanks for any info.
-Tim

The *only* difference between the PvE server and PvP is in PvP the Alliance and Horde players can attack each other at will.

-Lasereth

Crack 11-07-2004 10:39 PM

New patch Info: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patch...1-07-04.html#d

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Mage

Blink should work much more reliably and will not stop your movement.

Removed facing requirement from Counterspell, Detect Magic, and Polymorph.

Polymorph: Now dismounts the enemy target, increased the chance of breaking early.

Blizzard: Deals its damage in more frequent intervals.

Arcane Intellect: Ranks 4 and 5 now require reagents.

Teleport: Now requires a reagent.

Portal: Now requires a reagent.

Slow Fall: Now requires a reagent.
What is this blink spell? Is this like the Warden Blink spell in Warcraft 3?

-Ever- 11-07-2004 11:00 PM

I dunno, but I know there's quite a lot of uproar over the new patch. Lots of people claiming it's changed the way the game used to play pretty drastically. Might just be the usual mumbo jumbo but worth checking out. I'm just glad the game's finally here. I've been following so much drama for so long and I haven't even played it yet! Let's hurry things up here, OB.

-T

n0nsensical 11-08-2004 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Ever-
I dunno, but I know there's quite a lot of uproar over the new patch. Lots of people claiming it's changed the way the game used to play pretty drastically. Might just be the usual mumbo jumbo but worth checking out. I'm just glad the game's finally here. I've been following so much drama for so long and I haven't even played it yet! Let's hurry things up here, OB.

-T

The new death penalty sounds discouraging for PvP. It's bad enough to get ganked with no penalty, but now it's also going to waste time and money. I find item decay in general to be a pointless time and money sink. If it's supposed to stop "bind rushing" (I played EQ PvP but not for long enough to have ever experienced that), I think there must be a better solution, or at least they could tone down the penalty for PvP. There should be a penalty for PvE deaths, but PvP right now is one of the things making me lean toward playing WoW over EQ2, and if it's a pain in the ass I won't bother.

UPDATE: They are taking the durability penalty OFF PvP in the next patch!
But I'd still rather have a straight up mandatory XP penalty than durability in PvE...at least then dying would only cost time.

Lasereth 11-08-2004 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Ever-
I dunno, but I know there's quite a lot of uproar over the new patch. Lots of people claiming it's changed the way the game used to play pretty drastically. Might just be the usual mumbo jumbo but worth checking out. I'm just glad the game's finally here. I've been following so much drama for so long and I haven't even played it yet! Let's hurry things up here, OB.

-T

Some of it is the regular mumbo jumbo (most of the forum idiots say that each and every WoW patch "destroys" the game), but some of it is very drastic. The two biggest changes are the death penalty and the incorporation of reagents into caster spells.

If you die, all of your items lose 10% durability, even items not equipped. It costs a certain amount of money to repair these items. If they get to 0% durability, their beneficial effects such as armor rating, stats, etc. are negated. Items do not lose power until 0%. They don't "break" at 0% either...it's impossible to lose an item from durability. The bad part? Repairing items can be very expensive, especially if did over and over and over...and the true problem surfaces! I've PVP'ed between Southshore and Tarren Mill for hours at a time and died more than 10 times. That means for every 1-2 hours on a PVP server you may have to completely repair your armor which is VERY expensive. At level 50+, repairing all of the items in your inventory takes more than 3-5 GOLD.

Furthermore, instead of the Spirit Healer taking experience to revive you (if you choose the SH, you can always run to your corpse for no penalty), it now simply makes all of your items at 0% durability and puts a 30 minute resurrection sickness on you that seriously cripples your ability to fight. Like I said, it takes 3-5 gold to repair your armor now, so every SH rez is gonna cost a ton of money and leave you crippled for 30 minutes.

Ok, so the durability thing is gonna cost a lot of money and PVP'ers are gonna be more chicken-shit now because they don't wanna die. I could probably live with that without too much complaining. But wait! There's more!

Blizzard has the notion that casters should use items to cast some of their spells. Warlocks already do this to a certain extent. I wouldn't mind a caster having to use an item to cast a spell if the item was relatively cheap. You know, maybe 50 copper per buff, or 1 silver to teleport?

No. Mages now have to spend 20 SILVER to teleport their group and 10 SILVER to self-teleport. Mages get the self-port spell at level 20. Asking a level 20 to spend 10s to teleport is basically asking them to wipe out half of their bank account. 20s for a group teleport is almost as bad...but you can charge people for this and ask your group members to help pay for the reagent needed. BUT 10S FOR SELF-PORT??? Mages are NEVER gonna self-port now.

On top of that, all of the major caster-buffs cost money to cast after rank 4. It costs 7-20 silver for the items needed to cast caster buffs for every person. Why am I gonna buff my entire party if it takes 1 gold per hour? 1 gold is just about what I make on the average DAY. These new reagents needed to cast the buff spells are wasting everyone's gold supply.

So basically, I'm still gonna play the game and enjoy it, but these changes seriously affect the gameplay (especially the reagents). My solution would be making the reagents cost 50c for buffs and 1s for self-port and leave group port at 20s (group members can help pay for it). If Blizzard doesn't change this then no one is ever going to cast a rank 4 buff spell on anyone in the game (even themselves) ever again. Mages aren't gonna self-port anymore. It's basically ruining the advantage that caster classes had.

I'm guessing that Blizzard is gonna change the whole reagent thing...a thread was created on the WoW forums and the thread hit 25 pages in <I>two hours</I>.

-Lasereth

Lasereth 11-08-2004 07:37 AM

YEEHAW!!! Open Beta starts today. Everyone go to www.worldofwarcraft.com and DoS it constantly with page refreshes every 5 seconds. I know I am!

-Lasereth

bltzkriegmcanon 11-08-2004 09:07 AM

AHHHH!! Where did you find that information! Wahhhh! I wanna sign up for OB NOW!!

-Ever- 11-08-2004 09:37 AM

Currently installing the client. Downloaded after 21 hours (hush hush :p) . It's supposed to be the ST2 client but it says OB client...very odd. Either way it's downloaded and I'm just waiting for WoW.com to release the OB signups so I can get a key. See you out there soon, Lasereth, it's about f-ing time ;)

-T

(still trying to decide my char class since Mages seem to currently suck...?)

Lasereth 11-08-2004 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by -Ever-
(still trying to decide my char class since Mages seem to currently suck...?)

Mages don't suck, they just have to use reagents (which cost money after level 35 or so) for one of their buffs and teleports. They're still pain-bringers.

-Lasereth

BuddyHawks 11-08-2004 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bltzkriegmcanon
AHHHH!! Where did you find that information! Wahhhh! I wanna sign up for OB NOW!!


AAHHHH !! Holy Crap, how do i do it? I cant download it without a "unique Authentication Key" !!!

-Ever- 11-08-2004 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth
Mages don't suck, they just have to use reagents (which cost money after level 35 or so) for one of their buffs and teleports. They're still pain-bringers.

-Lasereth

Lol yeah I was being sarcastic. It's funny see all the people pour their hearts out over the patches at the WoW forums. Even though I'm yet to play, I think I'm all for things like the new death penalty and such. Just keeps people from messing around and will hopefully make it a little harder to speed level to 60.

I think I'm gonna start out with a Warrior and a Mage and just play casually among both of them. Were the Heroes of the Universe going to be on the East Coast server? And should I put HoU in my name or do you leave that out because of naming conventions?

Lasereth 11-08-2004 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by -Ever-
Were the Heroes of the Universe going to be on the East Coast server? And should I put HoU in my name or do you leave that out because of naming conventions?

Yeah, definitely an East Coast Server. Others can play on it as well, but *gasp* those from the West Coast make experience lag as bad as 200 milliseconds!

Just make a fantasy-type name and we'll worry about the rest. Your guild name is displayed below your name so you don't need to be xXxHoU-Ever-UoHxXx or other various idiot FPS names. :)

-Lasereth

BuddyHawks 11-08-2004 01:29 PM

Oh man, WoW site isnt even loading...they must be getting swamped!
The beta client is on suprnova, but the link dosn't work...i atleast want to download it.

ninety09 11-08-2004 01:35 PM

It's on Fileplanet now.

Quote:

World of Warcraft Open Beta!

Blizzard Entertainment and FilePlanet bring you the opportunity to join in the World of Warcraft Open Beta! Now open to the public, enter right now for your chance at a very limited number of Open Beta keys.
But I keep getting error messages when trying to sign up -_-

glytch 11-08-2004 02:02 PM

I wonder how many OB accounts File Planet has, and also when the WoW site will start handing them out? www.worldofwarcraft.com says this is an "initial run" of accounts.

Irishsean 11-08-2004 02:29 PM

Open Beta is here at the main Blizzard site, good luck getting it to load tho. Damn Fanbois!

Lasereth 11-08-2004 02:46 PM

LAS HAX!!!!! I got into OB. We're gonna play on the East Coast Test 16 server. See ya'll there if you can break out your HAX!!!! (F5)

-Lasereth

-Ever- 11-08-2004 04:15 PM

Turns out that they're going to remove the durability loss on PVP servers (didn't mention PVE though).

-T

thephuse 11-09-2004 10:00 PM

so how do i find you? cuz I'll sign up :-D

Crack 11-09-2004 10:05 PM

So...East Coast Test 16 server it is. Another 10% and I am so there. How do I find you guys once I am in?

-Ever- 11-09-2004 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by crackprogram
So...East Coast Test 16 server it is. Another 10% and I am so there. How do I find you guys once I am in?

Make a character and you'll spawn at Stormwind castle. Go to the bottom and find a bubble with the "!" symbol in it. Begin adding people by the names the gave in the other WoW thread. Mine's ever ;)

Slayer 11-09-2004 11:23 PM

Slayzz Night Elf Druid Server 16
Slayzz Tauren Hunter Server 4

See you guys in wow. :thumbsup:

Reese 11-10-2004 01:38 AM

I'm going to be playing East Coast PVP server. I was going to be Horde but I have no problems being Alliance. My main is probably going to be a Night Elf Priest but I'm going to wait until retail to start playing because I really don't want to get attached to a character and have him get deleted. It'd be great to play with fellow tfpers.

Irishsean 11-10-2004 04:28 AM

Ok, I'm on East Coast 16 as Irish. Got Hunter to 5, Druid to 8, Paladin to 5... they all suck! =P

Think I'm gonna try Mage or Rogue next, hehe...

Awesome game btw...

portwineboy 11-10-2004 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by -Ever-
Turns out that they're going to remove the durability loss on PVP servers (didn't mention PVE though).

-T

No, they are removing the durability loss on PVP deaths, you still get PVE death durability loss on the PVP servers. Thank god.

Lasereth 11-10-2004 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by portwineboy
No, they are removing the durability loss on PVP deaths, you still get PVE death durability loss on the PVP servers. Thank god.

Where did you guys see this? I frequent the website and the forums everyday and didn't hear a word about this (except for thousands of people complaining).

-Lasereth

Zeraph 11-10-2004 08:18 AM

Well I'd love to join but I think I'll be a horde player...Hmm maybe start an opposite guild called Heroes of the Underverse? See you on the battlefield! (or maybe not, im mountain time)

Lasereth 11-10-2004 11:10 PM

Some Heroes of the Universe members participated in a raid on the horde tonight! We killed about 20 horde members total. :) Me and a fellow Heroes warrior fucking OWNED an 18 Orc Shaman. :thumbsup:

The guild is officially created!

-Lasereth

portwineboy 11-11-2004 12:28 AM

It was a sweet raid...and the guild is hoppin' already.

Here is the thread on pvp durability...

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...neral&t=538149

Crack 11-11-2004 01:47 AM

I got to find you guys after I get my Rogue to Lvl 10 (Duel Daggers baby!) Have you guys rode the Deeprun tram yet? I hear it's pretty cool, can't be as cool as the Hippogryph ride, that was amazing.
me and Ravenshot Backstabin' our way across Teldrassil!

New Rogue first impressions

The game is awesome. Hands down the best game I have ever played. Only been playing for 1 night, already lvl 8. The people on the PVP server (east 16) were nice and friendly, even had a lvl 1 priest follow me around and watch me kill stuff while he healed for a few hours. It's the greatest thing to turn around after the battle and have someone Bowing to you in awe. The game ran smooth, no lag for me at all, there were a few times when I was looting a mob where I didn't get up after kneeling down, but it only lasted a few seconds. Wandered thru the forest in stealth mode, sneaking up on people and scaring them.
The only question I have is; can I use backstab as a first attack? I sneak up on a mob, and I click the BS button, and it says I do not have a target, but as soon as I aquire the target with the regular attack button, I come out of stealth, and the mob turns aroung to face me, and backstab no longer works. Is BS not meant to be a first attack? Am I missing something here?
Any other rogues in the game want to explain?

-Ever- 11-11-2004 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth
Some Heroes of the Universe members participated in a raid on the horde tonight! We killed about 20 horde members total. :) Me and a fellow Heroes warrior fucking OWNED an 18 Orc Shaman. :thumbsup:

The guild is officially created!

-Lasereth


Sounds sweet! I need to get in on a raid soon. Where do the Horde players spawn? The western island?

Lookin forward to the weekend ;)
-T

-Ever- 11-11-2004 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crackprogram
I got to find you guys after I get my Rogue to Lvl 10 (Duel Daggers baby!) Have you guys rode the Deeprun tram yet? I hear it's pretty cool, can't be as cool as the Hippogryph ride, that was amazing.
me and Ravenshot Backstabin' our way across Teldrassil!

New Rogue first impressions

The game is awesome. Hands down the best game I have ever played. Only been playing for 1 night, already lvl 8. The people on the PVP server (east 16) were nice and friendly, even had a lvl 1 priest follow me around and watch me kill stuff while he healed for a few hours. It's the greatest thing to turn around after the battle and have someone Bowing to you in awe. The game ran smooth, no lag for me at all, there were a few times when I was looting a mob where I didn't get up after kneeling down, but it only lasted a few seconds. Wandered thru the forest in stealth mode, sneaking up on people and scaring them.
The only question I have is; can I use backstab as a first attack? I sneak up on a mob, and I click the BS button, and it says I do not have a target, but as soon as I aquire the target with the regular attack button, I come out of stealth, and the mob turns aroung to face me, and backstab no longer works. Is BS not meant to be a first attack? Am I missing something here?
Any other rogues in the game want to explain?

Glad you finally made it in Crack! I just saw your other post and your account name. I was playing late lastnight when it was only you on my guild list (There were a lot of names I didn't recognize). I didn't know it was you, I should have said whats up ;)

IckUber 11-13-2004 11:43 AM

I will never join your guild. If i wanted to play carebare I woudnt have joined PvP, i will kill and destroy any horde character I see, fuck if 10 levels below. Thats what PvP is man.

bltzkriegmcanon 11-13-2004 09:36 PM

Umm, this guild is designed for specifically that purpose. We're not on a carebear server. We're playing on PVP, like real players should. Besides, if you're gonna be an ass about it, we wouldn't want you to join anyways.

Lasereth 11-14-2004 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IckUber
I will never join your guild. If i wanted to play carebare I woudnt have joined PvP, i will kill and destroy any horde character I see, fuck if 10 levels below. Thats what PvP is man.

Go ahead and kill people more than 10 levels below. You'll be dishonored from your own town and factioned incredibly bad. Then you'll have to pay a ton to get new gear, have guards kick your ass around every corner and be known as the dishonorable newb-ganker. :) Not to mention you won't be the leader of the Alliance for honorable kills but will simply lose reputation until you can't enter towns. Blizzard is concerned with people camping newbie areas so killing those who are 10 levels below you will gain a bad reputation.

-Lasereth


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