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Old 03-06-2004, 12:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Most difficult game

Most difficult game?

I recently started playing Battletoads on my emulator and let me tell you, I think that is the hardest game I have ever played. I'm on the second to last level right now and I'd say I've probably used the Restore (I'm a cheater ) function over 300 times.

So what do you think
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Old 03-06-2004, 12:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Mmmm let's see, I'd go with either Contra or Ghosts 'n Goblins. That includes sequels too.
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Old 03-06-2004, 02:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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my vote is for the first few megaman games on the original gameboy
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Old 03-06-2004, 09:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Holy hell. I used to play Battletoads way back in the day. Very cool game, but talk about frustration! Took forever to nail down the Turbo Tunnel level. My NES controllers took quite a beating from being thrown across the room.
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Old 03-06-2004, 09:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You guys have pretty much covered it. Battletoads is insanely difficult, cheating or not, and Mega Man, well, Jesus H. Christ, that's probably as difficult and frustrating as it gets. I mean, every single last one of them are incredibly hard, especially the end bosses.
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Old 03-06-2004, 10:58 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 03-06-2004, 11:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
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???? Those games were easy!!! (IMO) I could go through Contra over and over again till the score capped out - and Battletoads was loads of fun and not too difficult. You wanna find a hard game - try Athena for the NES. I remember wanting to hang my NES from a tree via a pad back in the day. Especially when you get the strongest sword and everytime you swing it you lose health, but you can't drop it either. Let me think of more difficult games and post them here later.
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Old 03-06-2004, 06:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The original Heretic on the 2 hardest settings is dang near imposible, in an FPS where you can get killed in one hit, that's tough, and highly annoying
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Old 03-06-2004, 07:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Heretic..........now that's a name I haven't heard in a long, long time


I thought I was the only person in the universe that played that smothering shit storm of a game

hard as HELL
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Old 03-06-2004, 08:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Most difficult game period?

I can't remember the name of it, but there was this game, that if you beat it, you won a million dollars, and yes, i'm serious.
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Old 03-06-2004, 09:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 03-06-2004, 10:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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MDK 2 had some nasty parts in it, to name something more recent.

I tended to avoid games that became frustratingly difficult. Mario 2 was pretty hard for me, but I was kinda young when it came out.
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Old 03-07-2004, 09:49 AM   #13 (permalink)
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For me it was a very hard adventure game called the Hobbit on the ZX Spectrum. Even through you could only type in 20 words or so, I still never managed to complete it.
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Old 03-07-2004, 11:56 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Turbo Tunnel + ghosts and goblins = unrelenting rage at 7
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Old 03-08-2004, 06:13 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Devil May Cry on dante must die mode. Every boss battle I have to fight atleast more than 30 times to beat them.
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Old 03-08-2004, 06:37 AM   #16 (permalink)
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You've revived my horrendous memories of Turbo Tunnel, perhaps the defining frustration of my childhood.

Yeah, it's hard.
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Old 03-08-2004, 08:30 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i'd say pong, i can never beat the computer
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Old 04-05-2004, 12:21 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Far Cry made my cry like a bitch but I perservered and clocked the sexy beast and can't wait to go back in and try a harder difficulty setting.
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Old 04-05-2004, 02:13 AM   #19 (permalink)
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before i understood what i was doing in Final Fantasy 8, i found it very difficult... but after i figured it out it got better.

i've heard that rainbow 6 (i think thats the name) is difficult... but i haven't played that yet.
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Old 04-05-2004, 04:07 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Can you say Everquest
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Old 04-05-2004, 04:15 AM   #21 (permalink)
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nethack gets my vote
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Old 04-05-2004, 06:43 AM   #22 (permalink)
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the hardest game I've ever played is probably either Driver (last mission anyone?) and STUNTMAN. Stuntman for PS2 will raise your blood pressure.
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Old 04-05-2004, 07:17 AM   #23 (permalink)
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The Hardest RECENT game, would have to be Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox. Believe me, i'm crap and i died to the first boss like several times.
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Old 04-05-2004, 09:19 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I agree with STUNTMAN for ps2. I almost broke my controller playing that game.
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Old 04-05-2004, 10:02 AM   #25 (permalink)
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The 7th Saga, an RPG for SNES.

I don't recall too many games being hard, just tedious. Like with the Mega Man games, you pretty much had to be Dr. Wily's castle in one go because you couldn't save in the middle. That's pretty frustrating because you'll be almost at the end and completely run out of lives.. only to find you gotta do it all over again.

Recent games.. GTA series (3 & VC) were kinda difficult at times.

Someone mentioned Devil May Cry.. that game was pretty tough, even on normal. I remember getting my ass slammed by that huge ass spider OVER AND OVER AND OVER. Took me forever to kill that damn thing.

The part I ultimatley got stuck on was that gigantic hawk.. damn that thing is tough.
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Old 04-05-2004, 10:26 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Personally, I think the definition of a "hard" game can be debated. For early games, being "hard" meant one of several things:
1) It was just really long - when levels are 2d / simplistic to program, they could just make hundreds of them if they wanted.
2) Tricky situations - mostly, situations where you had to either spend hours and hours trying everything, or where you had to buy the strategy guide in order to know what to do. You know the games that I'm talking about *ahem*Myst*ahem*
3) Timing skill - situations where you had to time things perfectly or you'd end up in a lava pit, or any other number of horrors.

If I missed some, please forgive me.

Modern games seem to have thrown out a lot of these "necessities" for games to be hard, especially 1 and 2. I find that modern games (say, when they started to be 3d and/or online multiplayer and it took much more effort to create a level design) tend to be hard for different reasons. There are still situations where timing is required, but I find that most difficulties lie in strategy, most notably the endless possibilities for strategy, especially in RTS / RPG games, and the occasional FPS.

Personally, I like the modern version of "hard" games better than the "hard" games of the past, which just lead me to frusteration and early replacement of controllers.

As for the hardest modern game I've played - I'd definately have to say Starcraft. The single player wasn't hard, but the multiplayer certaintly was, especially against really good players. The controls were easy and the concepts behind the game easy to grasp, but strategy was endless. That's the kind of hard that's addictive and encourages you to play more as opposed to smashing the CD into little bits. I played this game for 5 years
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Old 04-05-2004, 12:57 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Ghosts N Goblins.
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Driver.

Original Pitfall.
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Old 04-06-2004, 09:23 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:18 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Very true on Starcraft and other RTS games. Good call.

The single player campaigns are ridiculously easy, but when you actually play head to head against another person, someone who can think and isn't machine AI, you NEED to know how to balance between managing your resources, your army, multiple bases, etc. while facing whatever strategy/style of play he throws at you.
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:39 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Halo on Legendary is pretty fucking hard. Got stuck on Truth & Reconciliation. Can't beat it.
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:06 AM   #31 (permalink)
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That's the fuckin truth. Man, Halo on Heroic can be a ballbuster, especially on levels like Truth and Reconciliation and Assault on Control Room. My God! Those levels are long as shit.
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Old 04-06-2004, 04:03 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Soldier of Fortune 2 on the hard settings makes me want to put my fist through the computer screen
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Old 04-06-2004, 04:45 PM   #33 (permalink)
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My friend & I played Halo on Legendary on XBox (Co-op) and we managed to get past Truth & Reconciliation. It took so many attempts.

Currently playing Heroic on my own on PC, it's still quite hard but nothing compared to Legendary.
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Old 04-06-2004, 05:08 PM   #34 (permalink)
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My friend & I played Halo on Legendary on XBox (Co-op) and we managed to get past Truth & Reconciliation. It took so many attempts.

Currently playing Heroic on my own on PC, it's still quite hard but nothing compared to Legendary.
yeah, we can beat it with co-op on Legendary. Can anyone say "alternate as meatshields?" Single-player is rough though. Way rough.
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Old 04-06-2004, 06:08 PM   #35 (permalink)
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LOL. Alternate as meatshields. That's rich.
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Old 04-06-2004, 06:18 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Devil May Cry on dante must die mode. Every boss battle I have to fight atleast more than 30 times to beat them.
For everyone who suffered at the hands of Devil May Cry, my friend has your back. What he did to that game was just wrong. Now when he needs to blow off steam he pops it in, fires it up, and just beats down on everything. It took a year and lots of horribly offensive profanity, but he made it his bitch but good.

For myself, the hardest game that hasn't been mentioned would be a fucking ten way tie between all ten games on Interplay's Anniversary disk. Wasteland(precursor to Fallout), Dragon Wars, The Fellowship of the Ring(FUCKING NAZGUL), Star Trek, etc, etc etc. That disk was wrong and evil.
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:13 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I remember the first time I played Serious Sam 2... wave after wave after wave of enemies just kept coming. I'd run outta ammo on one gun, switch to another, drain that one, switch to another.... etc....

I actually felt like I was out of breath after finishing some of those levels.
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Old 04-07-2004, 04:08 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I think a lot of games are easy the only hard one was I think the Ninja Gaiden game.
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Old 04-07-2004, 01:06 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Old 04-07-2004, 04:19 PM   #40 (permalink)
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