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Sleepyjack · 11-17-2003, 03:33 AM

I did a search for this and nothing really came up?
Have people forgotten about this game?

For me, i've been looking forward to it, more than Doom 3 and Half life 2. Anyway, ign have received a "final build" and the game should (hopefully) be released on the 2nd of December (only 2 weeks away). Although i think it's good that people haven't really been hyping it too much, or it's be in Half life 2 and DOom 3's shadow, but i am really looking forward to it.

The first game was incredible and this one will only have to be ahlf that game to be good.

Good stuff.

also here is the article ign did on it, wiht some breif info. The review should be out shortly though

mrquackers · 11-17-2003, 03:55 AM

I've got the Xbox build and am playing it when I get the chance (can only play at my office, since my Debug Xbox stays there). So far I like it - not as much as the first, but that might be because I have a lot harder time controlling shooters on the Xbox than on the PC.

It's shaping up to be a fine game, though I wonder if it will have the surprise/delight factor of the original. That one was just so unique it will always stand out in my mind.

Mr. Mojo · 11-17-2003, 07:57 AM

<a target=new href="http://www.dxinvisiblewar.com/"><b> Dues Ex 2 Main Page</b></a>

It has Trailers and pixs - looks great.
I loved the first one. I think i might replay it to get in the mood

heccubusiv · 11-17-2003, 09:40 PM

Happy Puppy.com has a ton of information about the game but most of it is just early release notes. Does anyone know when its expected to come out?

Sleepyjack · 11-17-2003, 10:00 PM

should be around the 2nd of december, hopefully. But you always get the 99% complete syndrome with software

WhoaitsZ · 11-18-2003, 03:31 PM

i have a question. i have a amd 1.7 1.4ghrz , 768 megs of ram and a radeon 7k pro...... will my machine manage DE2?

Sleepyjack · 11-19-2003, 08:39 AM

@WhoaitsZ
have you run other recent games with it?

The main issue is your gfx card. It would probably need certain hardware acceleration (like transform and lighting). I am not entirely sure what features/accelration it has, sorry. I am not much of a hardware expert or anything, i have some knowledge, but i am mainly involved with software stuff.

Sorry i can't be more specific. More details about the games specs should be released soon.

Mr. Mojo · 11-20-2003, 10:28 AM

A sneak Peek -

http://www.gamespy.com/previews/nove...nvisiblewarpc/

Spiffy
Sense of immersion; cool storyline, freedom of choice.
Iffy
Character models and animation; some graphical jumpiness.

The original Deus Ex was far more than a mere first-person shooter. It allowed players to really choose their destiny in a way that's rarely been duplicated. Regardless of the challenges the game threw at you, there were at least three ways to solve the problem -- usually involving lots of gunfire, stealth, or solving some knotty technical problem using the RPG-like skills system. It fully deserved every "Game of the Year" and "Fan Favorite" award it received.

and more...

NeverBorn · 11-20-2003, 12:34 PM

God, I can't wait for this game. I absolutely loved the first one it was probably one of the best damn games I have ever played, let alone seen.

WhoaitsZ · 11-20-2003, 02:03 PM

thanks SJ.

actually all this time i failed to realize it coming to the Xbox. i'll go that route. save $$

sblime42 · 11-20-2003, 02:45 PM

FYI, the demo is supposed to be released at some point today on Fileplanet.

www.fileplanet.com

Keep an eye out for it.

asshat1138 · 11-21-2003, 11:06 AM

Has anyone played the demo yet? I can't play it until tonight. I have heard good things about this game. I hope it's as good as the first one.

Stargazer01 · 11-22-2003, 04:08 AM

Anyone played the demo, its downloading right now, but @ 200mb it'll take a good half hour =\

I've heard it's really taxing system wise, friend with a Radeon 9800 is getting choppy framerates at anything above 1024x768

Looking for input, maybe i'll buy the game. Thanks

goppers · 11-22-2003, 11:08 AM

hmmm the demo seems to always crash on me while loading a new game. from the forums i've found so far this isn't too common of a problem, but my pc should easily handle it so im not sure what the deal is here. I'll keep searching for now.

hu-man · 11-22-2003, 12:46 PM

I have a fairly medium computer (Thunderbird 1.3, 768MB RAM, Geforece 4 Ti) and it runs a little choppy in 800x600. I'm not that impressed! The characters look nice and all, but the shadows are bad, and the physics engine is really crappy - things fall very unrealistically. I'm going to give it another spin - the demo seemed pretty short, but maybe I just overlooked something.
Anyone else?

fhqwhgads · 11-22-2003, 01:16 PM

The demo is available via bit torrent on supernova.org for those who use bt.

yodapaul · 11-23-2003, 01:59 PM

I've played the PC demo, and I'm not to i'mpressed by the graphics, or the gameplay. However, I am talking about the DEMO of the game. The game it self might shape up to be much better (I hope).

hu-man · 11-23-2003, 03:04 PM

I doubt much will be changed, as it is due for release early next month.
But there is a thread on how to improve on a lot of things in the demo, the text size for example, which is hideously huge:
http://www.ionstorm.com/forum/viewth...12110&id=34880

NastyMan · 11-23-2003, 04:39 PM

I played it and for me it was a serious dissappointment..I came in thinkin they couldn't anything to screw up Deux Ex 2 because..I mean look at the first one :/ Sadly I was mistaken, even on a fairly good and new computer it runs sluggish and the interface always gets in the way of things..hopefully they'll have these fixed before release

Mr.Deflok · 11-23-2003, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fhqwhgads
The demo is available via bit torrent on supernova.org for those who use bt.

Thanks for the tip, I hate FTP's.

Another BT link http://www.gametab.com/files/torrents.php?fuse=125

hu-man · 11-24-2003, 12:26 AM

On the link I posted there's a description of how to alter the .ini files to move the interface more out to the sides. Looks to me like they shipped the demo with Xbox settings or something, I mean look at that huge text! (again)
I liked the gameplay and the shadows. The textures were WAY too low-res, but I hope that's just to limit the size of the demo (in which case I wonder why they included a Thief 3 video, but who knows)
I don't like the fact that it takes 4 headshots to kill a guy. That's one of the things I liked most about the first, one headshot one kill. That's realistic, that's stealth.
But the whole interface is pretty annoying. One grenade takes up the same space as a flamethrower? Come on.
One type of ammo for all weapons? The pistol uses the same ammo as the flamethrower? WHY?
Oh, and somehow the bar entrance guy can disable a police baton I found. With a code.
But as I wrote there are lots of ways of tweaking stuff. Hopefully some real fans will sit down and make the game truly like the first one, I know it's possible to tweak locational damage, and it must just be a matter of time before somebody figures out the rest.
I can't believe they released this, thinking we we going to like it. Maybe it's all just a joke. Yes, that's what is is. A joke. Ha ha.

Jack Ruby · 11-24-2003, 01:48 AM

If the full game is like this demo, I'm going to be pretty disappointed. Deus Ex is still in my top-ten greatest games of all time, though I don't think DX2 is going to get anywhere near that.

Xiangsu · 11-24-2003, 06:01 AM

I have the Dues Ex 2 demo but I haven't played it yet. Funny thing is I started playing the first one recently and I wasn't very impressed. Perfect Dark is so much better, but the story may improve the further you go. I got to the point where I was assigned in China.

CyN1caL · 11-24-2003, 09:31 AM

It seems to me that they focused the game too much for X-Box, and in part, dumbed down the PC version.

That makes me sad

The HUD and setup of the first one was so fun and excellent. I'm sure the game will have a good story and settings, but the gameplay doesn't look like it will live up to the first game's.

Mr.Deflok · 11-24-2003, 01:48 PM

Looks nice and the physics are cool but it was incredibly boring. I think CyN1caL is right, playing the game it felt like I was playing an X-Box title which isn't necessarily a bad thing but I'd much prefer to play an outstanding PC title.

hu-man · 11-25-2003, 12:58 AM

I read somewhere that the textures will be higher res in the full game, and that they will incorporate headshots (with modded pistol or heavier guns)
It's beginning to look a little better.

utang · 11-30-2003, 04:24 PM

The game had already gone gold before that, so I think we'll have to wait until a patch for them to implement those changes.

Sleepyjack · 12-02-2003, 02:32 AM

I read that the deom is an injustice of the game. This game isn't really about the glitz and glamour so much, moreso the about the way the game changes around you and your decisions in the game vastly effect the storyline. This openendedness is my main attraction to the game and it's style. Hopefully performance issues can be dealt with though? i don't like the idea of low and choppy frames on mid-level machines?

Ign reviewed the game http://pc.ign.com/articles/442/442591p1.html and it looks quite good to me. Of course, it's hard to outdo the previous game, in it's own right deus will still be very good.
Look forward to playing it very soon

hu-man · 12-02-2003, 04:11 AM

I've been reading demo reviews on the official boards, and from what I can gather, there are almost an infinite number of small, random things the NPC's can do.
One person shot a guard, and Sak (the woman) saw him go down from her window. Then she went outside, shot the other guard because she thought he did it, and then a guard came outside and shot her because she shot the other guard... that's great...

hu-man · 12-02-2003, 04:13 AM

Thanks for the IGN review, by the way. It's a good read.

sixate · 12-02-2003, 04:32 AM

I downloaded the demo a few days ago and played that for a while, and I must say it was rather boring. It nearly put me to sleep. I already uninstalled the demo, and I don't ever plan on buying the game.

Ooja Nikaboloko · 12-02-2003, 05:16 AM

Ive said it before , and Ill say it again

Deus Ex - DAMN fine PC game eventually ported to console

Deus Ex2 - BLATANTLY made for console market from the start.

The demo is Terrible imo. Try this..

Play the demo..then go back and play the original on pc... u can tell the difference and the first game is dated now.

cradeg · 12-02-2003, 09:16 AM

for my feeling .. DX2 was overhyped , as the first review shows its much shorter and the 3d shooting part is shitty too

Lokus · 12-02-2003, 05:00 PM

The demo really disappointed me, especially the interface and the framerates. As long as it has a great story though I'll still enjoy it.

Kaos · 12-03-2003, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sleepyjack
Anyway, ign have received a "final build" and the game should (hopefully) be released on the 2nd of December (only 2 weeks away).

It's December 3rd now. Is it out yet??? I have been waiting for this one with eager anticipation myself.

Kaos · 12-03-2003, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ooja Nikaboloko

Deus Ex - DAMN fine PC game eventually ported to console

Deus Ex2 - BLATANTLY made for console market from the start.

Same thing happened with Red Faction.

First one was awesome and I still play the onine multiplayer to this day.

Red Faction 2 - Also BLATANTLY made for console, then came out for the PC and it was complete garbage. I bought it, played for an hour and had it up for auction on Ebay the very next hour.

hu-man · 12-05-2003, 08:39 AM

Yeah so, the game is out, has anyone played it yet? Is it any good?

asshat1138 · 12-05-2003, 10:39 AM

Hey guys, I've been playing DX2 for the last two nights (PC) and it is very different from the demo thank christ. If you liked the first game, you'll probably like this one. A few things are lame like the lack of head shot kills and the unified ammo, but these annoyances slide into the background as you get into the game. I am really enjoying it. Just my 2 cents and junk.

Kaos · 12-08-2003, 08:31 PM

Now I'm worried after all my "eager anticipation", this game is going to be a huge disappointment. I've read people's comments and reviews on DX2, and not many were favourable.

This game was made for console. And probably going to be ruined by the console.

Same thing happened with Red Faction.

Atomsk · 12-08-2003, 10:51 PM

the damn game is so not ready for prime time. i had to choke on 4 fps out of the box running at 640x480 res and lowest settings on all textures. turns out though if you run the damn game in windows 2000 compatability mode it picks up quite a bit. that coupled with a few other settings in the default.ini file made things a bit more bearable. so who else is suffereing at the hands of this public relations nightmare?

11-17-2003, 03:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sleepyjack Fast'n'Bulbous Location: Australia, Perth	Deus Ex: Invisible War I did a search for this and nothing really came up? Have people forgotten about this game? For me, i've been looking forward to it, more than Doom 3 and Half life 2. Anyway, ign have received a "final build" and the game should (hopefully) be released on the 2nd of December (only 2 weeks away). Although i think it's good that people haven't really been hyping it too much, or it's be in Half life 2 and DOom 3's shadow, but i am really looking forward to it. The first game was incredible and this one will only have to be ahlf that game to be good. Good stuff. also here is the article ign did on it, wiht some breif info. The review should be out shortly though

11-17-2003, 03:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
mrquackers Exhausted Location: Northeastern US - please send help!	I've got the Xbox build and am playing it when I get the chance (can only play at my office, since my Debug Xbox stays there). So far I like it - not as much as the first, but that might be because I have a lot harder time controlling shooters on the Xbox than on the PC. It's shaping up to be a fine game, though I wonder if it will have the surprise/delight factor of the original. That one was just so unique it will always stand out in my mind. __________________ "If you're walking on thin ice, you may as well go ahead and dance."

11-17-2003, 07:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mr. Mojo Addict Location: NYC	<a target=new href="http://www.dxinvisiblewar.com/"><b> Dues Ex 2 Main Page</b></a> It has Trailers and pixs - looks great. I loved the first one. I think i might replay it to get in the mood __________________ When I jerk off I feel good for about twenty seconds and then WHAM it's right back into suicidal depression

11-17-2003, 09:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
heccubusiv #1 Irish Fan Location: The Burgh	Happy Puppy.com has a ton of information about the game but most of it is just early release notes. Does anyone know when its expected to come out? __________________ Fuck Ohio

11-20-2003, 10:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mr. Mojo Addict Location: NYC	A sneak Peek - http://www.gamespy.com/previews/nove...nvisiblewarpc/ Spiffy Sense of immersion; cool storyline, freedom of choice. Iffy Character models and animation; some graphical jumpiness. The original Deus Ex was far more than a mere first-person shooter. It allowed players to really choose their destiny in a way that's rarely been duplicated. Regardless of the challenges the game threw at you, there were at least three ways to solve the problem -- usually involving lots of gunfire, stealth, or solving some knotty technical problem using the RPG-like skills system. It fully deserved every "Game of the Year" and "Fan Favorite" award it received. and more... __________________ When I jerk off I feel good for about twenty seconds and then WHAM it's right back into suicidal depression

11-17-2003, 10:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sleepyjack Fast'n'Bulbous Location: Australia, Perth	should be around the 2nd of december, hopefully. But you always get the 99% complete syndrome with software

11-18-2003, 03:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
WhoaitsZ Crazy Location: right behind you...	i have a question. i have a amd 1.7 1.4ghrz , 768 megs of ram and a radeon 7k pro...... will my machine manage DE2?

11-19-2003, 08:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sleepyjack Fast'n'Bulbous Location: Australia, Perth	@WhoaitsZ have you run other recent games with it? The main issue is your gfx card. It would probably need certain hardware acceleration (like transform and lighting). I am not entirely sure what features/accelration it has, sorry. I am not much of a hardware expert or anything, i have some knowledge, but i am mainly involved with software stuff. Sorry i can't be more specific. More details about the games specs should be released soon.

11-20-2003, 12:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
NeverBorn I'm a pepper bitch..	God, I can't wait for this game. I absolutely loved the first one it was probably one of the best damn games I have ever played, let alone seen.

11-20-2003, 02:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
WhoaitsZ Crazy Location: right behind you...	thanks SJ. actually all this time i failed to realize it coming to the Xbox. i'll go that route. save $$

11-20-2003, 02:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
sblime42 Upright Location: look up	FYI, the demo is supposed to be released at some point today on Fileplanet. www.fileplanet.com Keep an eye out for it.

11-21-2003, 11:06 AM	#12 (permalink)
asshat1138 Upright	Has anyone played the demo yet? I can't play it until tonight. I have heard good things about this game. I hope it's as good as the first one.

11-22-2003, 04:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
Stargazer01 Tilted	Duece Ex 2: Invisible War Anyone played the demo, its downloading right now, but @ 200mb it'll take a good half hour =\ I've heard it's really taxing system wise, friend with a Radeon 9800 is getting choppy framerates at anything above 1024x768 Looking for input, maybe i'll buy the game. Thanks

11-22-2003, 11:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
goppers Tilted	hmmm the demo seems to always crash on me while loading a new game. from the forums i've found so far this isn't too common of a problem, but my pc should easily handle it so im not sure what the deal is here. I'll keep searching for now.

11-22-2003, 12:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
hu-man The one that got away Location: Over the hill and far away	I have a fairly medium computer (Thunderbird 1.3, 768MB RAM, Geforece 4 Ti) and it runs a little choppy in 800x600. I'm not that impressed! The characters look nice and all, but the shadows are bad, and the physics engine is really crappy - things fall very unrealistically. I'm going to give it another spin - the demo seemed pretty short, but maybe I just overlooked something. Anyone else?

11-22-2003, 01:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
fhqwhgads Junkie	The demo is available via bit torrent on supernova.org for those who use bt.

11-23-2003, 01:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
yodapaul Insane Location: MN	I've played the PC demo, and I'm not to i'mpressed by the graphics, or the gameplay. However, I am talking about the DEMO of the game. The game it self might shape up to be much better (I hope). __________________ I'm Just here to help. Now, Where is your problem?

11-23-2003, 03:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
hu-man The one that got away Location: Over the hill and far away	I doubt much will be changed, as it is due for release early next month. But there is a thread on how to improve on a lot of things in the demo, the text size for example, which is hideously huge: http://www.ionstorm.com/forum/viewth...12110&id=34880

11-23-2003, 04:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
NastyMan Upright	I played it and for me it was a serious dissappointment..I came in thinkin they couldn't anything to screw up Deux Ex 2 because..I mean look at the first one :/ Sadly I was mistaken, even on a fairly good and new computer it runs sluggish and the interface always gets in the way of things..hopefully they'll have these fixed before release

11-24-2003, 12:26 AM	#21 (permalink)
hu-man The one that got away Location: Over the hill and far away	On the link I posted there's a description of how to alter the .ini files to move the interface more out to the sides. Looks to me like they shipped the demo with Xbox settings or something, I mean look at that huge text! (again) I liked the gameplay and the shadows. The textures were WAY too low-res, but I hope that's just to limit the size of the demo (in which case I wonder why they included a Thief 3 video, but who knows) I don't like the fact that it takes 4 headshots to kill a guy. That's one of the things I liked most about the first, one headshot one kill. That's realistic, that's stealth. But the whole interface is pretty annoying. One grenade takes up the same space as a flamethrower? Come on. One type of ammo for all weapons? The pistol uses the same ammo as the flamethrower? WHY? Oh, and somehow the bar entrance guy can disable a police baton I found. With a code. But as I wrote there are lots of ways of tweaking stuff. Hopefully some real fans will sit down and make the game truly like the first one, I know it's possible to tweak locational damage, and it must just be a matter of time before somebody figures out the rest. I can't believe they released this, thinking we we going to like it. Maybe it's all just a joke. Yes, that's what is is. A joke. Ha ha.

11-24-2003, 01:48 AM	#22 (permalink)
Jack Ruby Psycho Location: Belgium	If the full game is like this demo, I'm going to be pretty disappointed. Deus Ex is still in my top-ten greatest games of all time, though I don't think DX2 is going to get anywhere near that. __________________ You don't know what you don't know.

11-24-2003, 06:01 AM	#23 (permalink)
Xiangsu Addict Location: Illinois	I have the Dues Ex 2 demo but I haven't played it yet. Funny thing is I started playing the first one recently and I wasn't very impressed. Perfect Dark is so much better, but the story may improve the further you go. I got to the point where I was assigned in China.

11-24-2003, 09:31 AM	#24 (permalink)
CyN1caL Crazy	It seems to me that they focused the game too much for X-Box, and in part, dumbed down the PC version. That makes me sad The HUD and setup of the first one was so fun and excellent. I'm sure the game will have a good story and settings, but the gameplay doesn't look like it will live up to the first game's.

11-24-2003, 01:48 PM	#25 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Looks nice and the physics are cool but it was incredibly boring. I think CyN1caL is right, playing the game it felt like I was playing an X-Box title which isn't necessarily a bad thing but I'd much prefer to play an outstanding PC title.

11-25-2003, 12:58 AM	#26 (permalink)
hu-man The one that got away Location: Over the hill and far away	I read somewhere that the textures will be higher res in the full game, and that they will incorporate headshots (with modded pistol or heavier guns) It's beginning to look a little better.

11-30-2003, 04:24 PM	#27 (permalink)
utang Crazy Location: In a Dorm	The game had already gone gold before that, so I think we'll have to wait until a patch for them to implement those changes. __________________ I am a ridiculous man- Fyodor Doestoevsky

12-02-2003, 02:32 AM	#28 (permalink)
Sleepyjack Fast'n'Bulbous Location: Australia, Perth	I read that the deom is an injustice of the game. This game isn't really about the glitz and glamour so much, moreso the about the way the game changes around you and your decisions in the game vastly effect the storyline. This openendedness is my main attraction to the game and it's style. Hopefully performance issues can be dealt with though? i don't like the idea of low and choppy frames on mid-level machines? Ign reviewed the game http://pc.ign.com/articles/442/442591p1.html and it looks quite good to me. Of course, it's hard to outdo the previous game, in it's own right deus will still be very good. Look forward to playing it very soon

12-02-2003, 04:11 AM	#29 (permalink)
hu-man The one that got away Location: Over the hill and far away	I've been reading demo reviews on the official boards, and from what I can gather, there are almost an infinite number of small, random things the NPC's can do. One person shot a guard, and Sak (the woman) saw him go down from her window. Then she went outside, shot the other guard because she thought he did it, and then a guard came outside and shot her because she shot the other guard... that's great...

12-02-2003, 04:13 AM	#30 (permalink)
hu-man The one that got away Location: Over the hill and far away	Thanks for the IGN review, by the way. It's a good read.

12-02-2003, 04:32 AM	#31 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	I downloaded the demo a few days ago and played that for a while, and I must say it was rather boring. It nearly put me to sleep. I already uninstalled the demo, and I don't ever plan on buying the game.

12-02-2003, 05:16 AM	#32 (permalink)
Ooja Nikaboloko Upright	Ive said it before , and Ill say it again Deus Ex - DAMN fine PC game eventually ported to console Deus Ex2 - BLATANTLY made for console market from the start. The demo is Terrible imo. Try this.. Play the demo..then go back and play the original on pc... u can tell the difference and the first game is dated now.

12-02-2003, 09:16 AM	#33 (permalink)
cradeg Insane Location: Austria	for my feeling .. DX2 was overhyped , as the first review shows its much shorter and the 3d shooting part is shitty too __________________ *************************** For every human problem, there is a neat, simple solution; and it is always wrong. ****************************

12-02-2003, 05:00 PM	#34 (permalink)
Lokus I can't think of a good title Location: East Bay Area, CA	The demo really disappointed me, especially the interface and the framerates. As long as it has a great story though I'll still enjoy it. __________________ The black wind howls...

12-05-2003, 08:39 AM	#37 (permalink)
hu-man The one that got away Location: Over the hill and far away	Yeah so, the game is out, has anyone played it yet? Is it any good?

12-05-2003, 10:39 AM	#38 (permalink)
asshat1138 Upright	Hey guys, I've been playing DX2 for the last two nights (PC) and it is very different from the demo thank christ. If you liked the first game, you'll probably like this one. A few things are lame like the lack of head shot kills and the unified ammo, but these annoyances slide into the background as you get into the game. I am really enjoying it. Just my 2 cents and junk. Last edited by asshat1138; 12-05-2003 at 02:44 PM..