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Sion · 07-27-2003, 06:14 PM

Im looking to make some of my own skins for GTAIII. But, while I have figured out how to modify the existing character, what I really want to do is change him entirely. What I mean is this: all the skins I have found on the net are merely modifications of the preset character. Same height, build, head shape, hairstyle, etc. Seems like all anyone has figured out how to do is change the colors.

what Id like to do is, for example, make the character a female, or a midget, or other radical changes..

but playing around with the skin bitmap wont do that. it just alters the colors of the existing model.

is there any way to change the model?

CAN_skate · 07-28-2003, 07:35 PM

If someone hasnt done it yet, then I would guess that you can't change the model. But I don't know about that game.

kirk44 · 07-30-2003, 05:25 AM

If you are talking about radical changes to the height shape and form of the character then you are referring to changes in the mesh and skeleton of the model.

Think of it this way :a 3d game model is made up of a series of connected "bones" that have a series of preset animations. This skeleton is covered with a "mesh" made up of polygons or triangles.That mesh is then mapped or covered in a skin. You can make changes to the skin, usually in a program like photoshop,but that will only alter the appearance of it.

If you want to alter the size and shape or change the anatomy of a model, then you have to use a program like 3D studio Max or Milkshape 3D. You then extract the player model from the games developement kit (if there's one included).There usually is a restriction to the polycount of the model for the particular games engine. If you add too much detail, the game can't run it. If you alter the over all shape of the model, then you would have to re-animate the skeleton.This can be a very complicated process, but there are tons of tutorial sites for beginners.

07-27-2003, 06:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	any skinning experts here? Im looking to make some of my own skins for GTAIII. But, while I have figured out how to modify the existing character, what I really want to do is change him entirely. What I mean is this: all the skins I have found on the net are merely modifications of the preset character. Same height, build, head shape, hairstyle, etc. Seems like all anyone has figured out how to do is change the colors. what Id like to do is, for example, make the character a female, or a midget, or other radical changes.. but playing around with the skin bitmap wont do that. it just alters the colors of the existing model. is there any way to change the model? __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

07-30-2003, 05:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
kirk44 Upright Location: On another plane of existence	If you are talking about radical changes to the height shape and form of the character then you are referring to changes in the mesh and skeleton of the model. Think of it this way :a 3d game model is made up of a series of connected "bones" that have a series of preset animations. This skeleton is covered with a "mesh" made up of polygons or triangles.That mesh is then mapped or covered in a skin. You can make changes to the skin, usually in a program like photoshop,but that will only alter the appearance of it. If you want to alter the size and shape or change the anatomy of a model, then you have to use a program like 3D studio Max or Milkshape 3D. You then extract the player model from the games developement kit (if there's one included).There usually is a restriction to the polycount of the model for the particular games engine. If you add too much detail, the game can't run it. If you alter the over all shape of the model, then you would have to re-animate the skeleton.This can be a very complicated process, but there are tons of tutorial sites for beginners. __________________ si vis pacem, para bellum

07-28-2003, 07:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
CAN_skate Banned Location: Totally out there.	If someone hasnt done it yet, then I would guess that you can't change the model. But I don't know about that game.