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Anxst 03-04-2008 08:21 PM

Gary Gygax died today
 
Article Here

Well, damn. I still play role playing games to this day, and have been for almost 20 years. I got to play with Gary at Gen Con 4 different times, and was saddened to hear he was lost to us today. Without him, I'm sure my life would have ended up very different. RPG's of different stripes have been my hobby, my passion, and for almost 5 years ('95-'00), my career as the owner of an RPG/Comic book store.

Stop for a moment, gamers of the world, and ponder how games might be different if Gary had never been around. That's all he would have hoped for, I think.

Baraka_Guru 03-04-2008 08:40 PM

I'm with you, Anxst. Who I am today I owe in part to the game he helped create--


....wait a minute--

:eek: You played D&D with Gary Gygax?! :bowdown:


It's amazing what following creators and contributors have done with the game. I have no idea what Gygax thought of all of it.

All I know is that if it weren't for Neverwinter Nights online play on an awesome server, I'd be pining for the days when I could play pen-and-paper D&D.

I knew about the work of Gygax before Tolkien. (Even though Tolkien was a huge influence.)


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Thank you, Mr. Gygax, for playing such a large part in inspiring the imaginations of boys (and now girls... yes!) everywhere.

I will be a part of the d20 salute rolling around the world.

Cynthetiq 03-04-2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Dungeons & Dragons creator Gary Gygax dies

Agence France-Presse

CHICAGO - Gary Gygax, co-creator of the iconic Dungeons & Dragons fantasy game and considered the father of modern role-playing gaming, died in his home Tuesday, his wife said.

Gygax had been suffering from a number of health problems including an incurable heart aneurism, Gail Gygax said. He was 69.

First published in 1974, the Dungeons & Dragons game, in which players create magical and heroic characters and guide them through a series of adventures, soon became a cultural phenomenon.

There was no game board in this interactive, imaginative adventure: just paper, pen, the dungeon master's rule book and a set of multisided dice.

D&D spawned a booming industry and has inspired a generation of writers, video game designers and filmmakers.

Gygax's cult hero status among self-proclaimed geeks is so intense that one fan even named a strain of bacteria after him.

But he faced intense criticism in the 1980s when the game became a target for cultural conservatives who blamed it for causing teen suicides, murder and devil worship.

"That really pushed the sales up," Gygax joked in an interview with GameSpy.

"What bothered me is that I was getting death threats, telephone calls, and letters. I was a little nervous. I had a bodyguard for a while.

"I'm glad that most people have been able to separate the fantasy of the game from the reality of real life -- games have nothing to do with real life. There are no real dragons, there's no real magic, no real magic swords, and certainly no real treasure... or I would have retired at home by now."

The popularity of Dungeons and Dragons faded in the 1990s as the video games boom began, but Gygax's influence in the gaming world continued through his columns and the more than 80 games, game products, and books he created.

A voracious reader with an unfettered imagination, Gygax worked intensely until his health deteriorated in 2004.

"He would be in a daze," Gail Gygax said. "Especially when he was creating a new world. One time he was painting a globe for two weeks."

She said that while he used computers to help speed up the designs for his games and the writing of his books, he never really got interested in video games.

"He liked the group environment where you were with people," she said.

"He played all kinds of games ... we would have a game of cribbage on our front porch every night in the summer."
yeah i've been trying to get into a pen and paper game for about 2 years now with a group that plays from time to time. they've gotten older and their campaign takes a back seat to raising a family.

last time I played was with a large group of people at work. We'd commandeer a conference room on the weekends and play from morning until late at night. it was great! best part is that my wife likes to play too.

I heard this earlier but couldn't find much to corroborate the story but more and more forum posts about an email from his brother.

wherever he his, it's all good.

Charlatan 03-04-2008 10:00 PM

Hearing about this prompted me to send an email to my friends that I used to play with back in high school.

I haven't played in years but my son does and it always makes me pleased to see him with his dice and books.

Redjake 03-05-2008 04:13 AM

This sucks. One of my favorite novel series was based on this stuff (Dragonlance). That's insane that D&D is that old! I remember one time my stepmother told me she knew folks in college that played - I was like what???? D&D was around in the late 70s?? Insane.

Baraka_Guru 03-05-2008 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redjake
That's insane that D&D is that old! I remember one time my stepmother told me she knew folks in college that played - I was like what???? D&D was around in the late 70s?? Insane.

Don't tell me you've never played D&D "Basic":

http://www.rpgnow.com/images/44/17163.jpg

This is the first rulebook I played with....and there are ones far older than this one. (I got into it in the late '80s.)

ratbastid 03-05-2008 04:59 AM

Oh, man, Baraka.... You just totally nostalgia-ed me.

I remember playing on the porch in front of my school building in fifth grade, with that very book.

desal75 03-05-2008 06:30 AM

I have never played a pen and paper RPG but as a huge fan of games like Dragon Quest, Elder Scrolls, and other console RPG's I can't deny the influence he had on my life.

Its a sad day for all of gaming.

Baraka_Guru 03-05-2008 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ratbastid
Oh, man, Baraka.... You just totally nostalgia-ed me.

I remember playing on the porch in front of my school building in fifth grade, with that very book.

I spent many weekends with my cousin (and occasionally some other friends) playing from this book and the following "intermediate" and "advanced." We then moved on to playing the original Pool of Radiance on Commodore 64.

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Trivia question for the thread (no cheating): What does THAC0 mean, and how do you use it?


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Quote:

Originally Posted by desal75
Its a sad day for all of gaming.


*Baraka's level 15 human paladin rolls d20 to make a diplomacy check: charisma bonus +3 and diplomacy skill of 10 = 14 + 3 + 10 = 27*


Let us not look to this day in sadness; let us look to it with gratitude.

*Roll d20 for a will save*

Daniel_ 03-05-2008 12:49 PM

THAC0.

Spoiler: To Hit Armour Class Zero

Daniel_:

STR 14
DEX 11
CON 15
INT 18
WIS 16
CHA 17
COM 14

Level 12 Administrator/Scientist
AC 14
HP 200
XP 1.8E6

Ustwo 03-05-2008 01:12 PM

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...y/20060410.jpg

Daniel_ 03-05-2008 01:23 PM

Love it, Ustwo.

snowy 03-05-2008 01:36 PM

I was very sad to hear this; I'm not a pen-and-paper gamer myself, but I have a lot of good friends who are. In fact, one of my friends works in development for Dungeons and Dragons--it's his dream job come true.

And Ustwo, thanks for the giggles. I laughed so hard my roommate asked WTF was wrong with me. I recall my friend J., a hardcore old-school RPer, doing something similar to my friend S. when S. first started playing WoW. Sigh.

Anxst 03-05-2008 05:36 PM

Ah, THAC0. To Hit Armor Class Zero. I miss AD&D 2nd ed. sometimes. Then, I smack myself for thinking it.

As an unarmored average human, your Armor Class would be 10. In the old days, everything was backward. Lowering your AC was better, because your AC was subtracted from your attacker's THAC0. So, with a THACO of 20, hitting an unarmored average human, you need a (20-10=10) 10 or higher on a d20 roll to hit.

That's how it worked. Nowadays, higher numbers are always better.

Anyone remember when your "shitty" d20 that always seemed to roll ones was used for every saving throw you ever made?

Yeah, I played with Gary Gygax at Gen Con a few times. He was a great DM, more worried about making sure every had a good time than sticking directly to the rules.

"Hey Gary, how did 3 white dragons fit in that chimney?"

"They just did. Made for a great scene, didn't it?"

spindles 03-05-2008 05:49 PM

OMG - why do all the good ones die so young?

I have my first edition AD&D books on the shelf behind me and the dice in one of the draws in my desk and those red 'basic' books are at mum and dad's place I think.

biznatch 03-09-2008 12:33 PM

Another relevant one from penny-arcade, entitled "bordering on the semi-tasteful":
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2008/20080304.jpg


R.I.P

Punk.of.Ages 03-09-2008 03:37 PM

Man, I had no idea this happened 'til now. I'm a few days late, but my groups meeting tonight, and we will be holding a moment of silence for this man.

Dude, without this guy I wouldn't have some of the best friends I have. We all got as close as we are mainly through D&D.

I've always played 3rd edition though. I'm pretty young. It had just come out when I started playing.

R.I.P to a great, great man.

Baraka_Guru 03-09-2008 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages
I've always played 3rd edition though. I'm pretty young. It had just come out when I started playing.

If you're as hardcore as you seem to be, you should do yourselves a favour and find a copy or two of some of the early-edition "D&D" manuals (such as the classic red ones). You won't believe how much the game has changed. It's far more complex now. Advanced Dungeons & Dragons it indeed is. It would be a treat to your group to see these wonderful books.

Nimetic 03-09-2008 04:42 PM

Sorta sad. We laughed at basic D&D so often, but still. There was something about the general vibe of that old system that worked.

It seems to me that the right thing to do would be to play Keep on the Borderlands "as intended", taking alignment seriously (roughly anyways) and aiming to reach the ultimate goal... level 3.

Hmm. Seems to me that "keep on the borderlands could be played online" eh (if slowly). Does anyone have a copy? I think I might have it.

spindles 03-09-2008 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimetic
Hmm. Seems to me that "keep on the borderlands could be played online" eh (if slowly). Does anyone have a copy? I think I might have it.

How about this for NWN2:
http://nwvault.ign.com/View.php?view....Detail&id=129

I've played it (single player) - you get 2 or 3 henchmen, so it is not impossible - pretty close to what I remember of the mod from close to 20 years ago.

Punk.of.Ages 03-10-2008 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
If you're as hardcore as you seem to be, you should do yourselves a favour and find a copy or two of some of the early-edition "D&D" manuals (such as the classic red ones). You won't believe how much the game has changed. It's far more complex now. Advanced Dungeons & Dragons it indeed is. It would be a treat to your group to see these wonderful books.

I actually own a couple AD&D books, and a couple of the guys in my group started on AD&D (they're a little older than me). Any earlier than that, though, I've never even seen.

I've looked (a little) into finding earlier books, but they're definitely not going to be an easy find.

Especially with 4th edition on its way in.

Perhaps I will drop a little time and effort into finding those. I'm sure it would be a treat to see how the game has evolved.

P.S. Everyone in my group was quite saddened to hear of Gary's death last night, and we had one of the best games we've ever had in his honor.

Baraka_Guru 03-10-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages
Perhaps I will drop a little time and effort into finding those. I'm sure it would be a treat to see how the game has evolved.

I've played "Basic," "Intermeditate," and "Expert" D&D, 2nd Edition, and 3.5.

Trust me, the changes are astounding.

"Basic" would be a great throwback. Simple rules, fast gameplay. I should find a set for myself. :)

m0rpheus 03-10-2008 01:24 PM

I never really played D&D but I still do play a variety of RPGs (Rifts and other Palladium, White Wolf, etc). I mourn GG's death not because of D&D but because he helped to create an past-time that I love. Without him and D&D the RPGs I do like probably would have never existed.

Nimetic 03-11-2008 01:04 AM

Ah. Neat. Though I've not tried NWN.

Sadly, my home PC is not up to the task. And none of my laptops have a dedicated graphics.

SSJTWIZTA 03-11-2008 03:54 AM

Oh mans thats...

::rolls die, waits on result::

Horrible!

Baraka_Guru 03-11-2008 05:19 AM

Yeah, your PC needs more XP.

Gabbyness 03-22-2008 11:11 PM

Wow, sad to see that he passed away.

Definitely a controversial character, since he started Satanism! Ha!

A lot of Mountain Dew and Pizza has been consumed because of D&D, cheers to him.

SERPENT7 03-28-2008 03:06 PM

I intend to start my kids out on the RED book one they get old enough.

But yeah, bummer he's gone. I never did make it to Gen Con to meet him. Too late ow, I guess.

Redlemon 04-03-2008 05:22 AM

Here's the hacker tribute out of MIT...

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3641/picture1zi8.png

SSJTWIZTA 04-03-2008 05:49 AM

it couldnt have been more original?

a big half assed cloth dye.
what the hell?

heres a idea, take that same 20 sided dye. only this time jam pack the fucker with fire works, charges, and normal sized 20 sided dice.

you all see where im going with this, right?

DonnieBoy 04-18-2009 08:27 PM

While cleaning out my basement this past weekend I came across my AD&D 2nd edition books and monster manual. Man I miss Pen and Paper. Haven't played in years. I wonder if there are groups online? I'll have to look into that.


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