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G_Whiz 05-30-2003 02:04 PM

Your first computer?
 
The question here is what was the first computer you used. I figure that there are just too many options to make this a poll, so just post away.

To start it off, my first computer was an Atari 800 with a whopping 48K of RAM. It didn't have a floppy disk drive and don't even think about a hard drive. I started out using a cassette player. I added 5 1/4" floppy drive about 6 months later. I never did add a hard drive (I don't know that there ever was one available).

fuelmyfire 05-30-2003 02:14 PM

IBM 5150.

monochrome (green and black) two 5 1/4 floppy drives.
i remember actually managing to get three or four comodore 64 games running on it.

mrsandman 05-30-2003 02:46 PM

Tandy 1000...paid appx $3,000.00 for it and THEN went to a discount house and paid an additional $600.00 for a CHEAP 20mb hard drive which I installed. I think it was mid to late '80's.............
Yes I said 20 mb H.D.

shalafi 05-30-2003 03:35 PM

I had a TI99-4A. No floppies. It took cartriges for games or you could type in programs in BASIC. We later added a casset player to record the progs......god that was a slow way to store data.

Lebell 05-30-2003 03:40 PM

Re: Your first computer?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by G_Whiz
The question here is what was the first computer you used. I figure that there are just too many options to make this a poll, so just post away.

To start it off, my first computer was an Atari 800 with a whopping 48K of RAM. It didn't have a floppy disk drive and don't even think about a hard drive. I started out using a cassette player. I added 5 1/4" floppy drive about 6 months later. I never did add a hard drive (I don't know that there ever was one available).

Ditto.

No, there was never a hard drive unit available. The duel floppy unit and the computer where about 1500$ in 1982 money.

I still have mine ;)

denim 05-30-2003 03:47 PM

The first computer I owned was a Mac SE. I still have it. It still worked as of a few months ago.

When I bought this $2000 machine in 1988, it came with 1MB of RAM and two floppy drives. I immediately added a 45MB Seagate hd to it for $750.

In 1991 (or was it 1990?), I maxxed out the memory at 4MB. Having just come down massively in price, each 1MB 30-pin SIMM put me back $130. And that was a good price.

Now I have a 128MB part sitting on a shelf at home, unused.

uncle phil 05-30-2003 04:12 PM

the first computer i ever used was an ncr 390 which i operated in 1966-1967 to process payroll in the air force in colorado springs, colorado...it took up space equal to my current living room...

edit: used pcam gear, mag strip records, and punch tape...i think this was before modems were invented, rock...

Akira 05-30-2003 04:13 PM

Umm soo long ago. I remember it was a NEC with like 4MB and i think it had a hard drive for like 100 mbs but that was installed later.

bundy 05-30-2003 04:23 PM

Amiga 2000.
only ever played games on that baby.

dankitti 05-30-2003 06:52 PM

i had an abacus hooked up to a telegraph. that was the closest i could get to web surfing.

denim 06-02-2003 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by uncle phil
the first computer i ever used was an ncr 390 which i operated in 1966-1967 to process payroll in the air force in colorado springs, colorado...it took up space equal to my current living room...
Waitaminut... Is this first used or first owned?

If I go for oldest used, I'd have to go with an IBM 1130. Dates from 1965. So there. :)

GSRIDER 06-02-2003 05:56 AM

Mac 2 SI


Less memory that a zip disk!!!!! Hell I got porn mpegs that couldn't fit on to a Mac SI.... Yeweh bless the RAM

Necronomicom 06-02-2003 06:24 AM

486

BoCo 06-02-2003 06:40 AM

My first was only 2 years back, so it's not that bad.

It was a Dell Dimension 4100 with:

1GHz Intel PIII
512MB PC133 RAM
40GB 7200RPM HDD
24/10/40 CD-RW
8x DVD
32MB Videocard
Soundcard
Generic Modem
200w PSU

Leander 06-02-2003 06:42 AM

TI99/4A. Its probably still in parents attic somewhere. I ended up using the cassette player longer than the computer.

w4r gam3z 06-02-2003 10:27 AM

hmmm first owned for me was custom built amd duron 700mhz with a crappy unidentifiable vid card =( and 64mb of pc100 sdram i had to put a pci fast ethernet card in myself to run my cable modem on it.

first used was 486 in my friends basement

G_Whiz 06-02-2003 10:40 AM

Re: Re: Your first computer?
 
Let's keep this to the first home computer you or your family owned. Otherwise, I go back to punch cards, etc. The newest biggest business computer at that time was the IBM 365.

Quote:

Originally posted by Lebell
Ditto.

No, there was never a hard drive unit available. The duel floppy unit and the computer where about 1500$ in 1982 money.

I still have mine ;)


Actually, mine is stored in the garage.

I did eventually get a disk drive for it. The fun was that the Users Group here was loaded with engineers who worked for Hewlett Packard. They loved that machine. Needless to say, I had some hacked hardward to go with it.

World's King 06-02-2003 10:52 AM

Apple IIe



Enough Said

Pheatius 06-02-2003 12:31 PM

A Vic-20 (Got rid of it in 3months for a Commodore 64)
Tape drives rule!!!

uncle phil 06-02-2003 12:37 PM

sorry, whiz...thought you originally asked for the first computer we used...

Snoogans 06-02-2003 12:38 PM

Commodore 128, and I loved it.

Tape drives does indeed rule.

cdwonderful 06-02-2003 12:43 PM

a commodore 64

or a Mac 128 with ext. disc drive......

oldbob 06-02-2003 07:59 PM

I had a commodore 128 too. man, that was the shit back in 1986. whooped ass all over my friends w/ 64s, except I could only run like half of their games, even in 64 mode.

Force 10 06-02-2003 08:32 PM

I had the vic 20, the 64, the 128 and the Amiga. Great machines. The first true multi-tasking processor.

Commodore VIC-20
Introduced: June 1980
Released: January 1981
Price: US $299
CPU: MOS 6502, 1MHz
RAM: 5K (3.5K for the user)
Display: 22 X 23 text
176 X 184, 16 colors max
Ports: composite video
joystick, cartridge, user port
serial peripheral port
Peripherals: cassette recorder
printer, modem
external floppy drive
OS: ROM BASIC

The VIC-20 was the first inexpensive color computer available, costing less than $300. It can only display 22 characters of text per line, so it's use for business applications is minimal, but people loved it for games - it has good color, a joystick port, and it was cheap.

The VIC-20 is also the first computer ever to sell over 1 million units, just a few months ahead of the Apple II 1 million mark, and production of the VIC-20 was up to 9000 units a day, with sales reaching $305 million. The price of a VIC-20 eventually dropped to less than $100, the first color computer to do so.

The VIC in VIC-20 stands for Video Interface Chip. This chip was designed by Commodore two years prior for video game machines, never intending it for use in their own computer system. Unfortunately no one wanted it, so Commodore engineers designed the VIC-20 computer around it.

There are numerous rumours as to what the 20 in VIC-20 refers to, some say:
The systems memory almost adds-up to 20: 5K (RAM) + 16K (ROM) = 21K.
The system displays 22 characters per line of text.
But the truth apparently is that it just sounds good, so says former Commodore employee Michael Tomczyk (The VIC Czar), quoted in An interview with Michael Tomczyk, from the Commodore VIC-20 Tribute Page.

Before the floppy drive was released in 1982, games and programs were available only on cassette tapes and cartridges. There isn't much to the 'carts', which plug into the back of the VIC-20, just a single ROM chip with the program burned into it.

The VIC-20 has a composite video output connection on the back, but with the VIC modulator you can also use your regular television.

Commodore actually built all of the important processing chips in the VIC-20, since they had their own chip manufacturing facility, MOS Technology. Not having to buy their chips from someone else saved them a fortune, allowing them to keep the price of the VIC-20 low. They even sold their 6502 CPU to Apple and Atari for use in their own computers.

The VIC-20 was succeeded by the even more popular Commodore 64 computer in late 1982.



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1953: Jack Tramiel opens a typewriter repair shop in the Bronx, New York.
1954: Tramiel founds Commodore.
1955: Tramiel relocates to Toronto and becames the biggest manufacturer of low cost office furniture in Canada
197? Commodore manufactures calculators and digital watches, but gets killed by Texas Instruments.
1976: Commodore purchases MOS Technologies, an American maker of IC chips. MOS' senior engineer, Chuck Peddle was working on the 6502 micro processor. A popular 8 bit processor that soon would be used in machines like the Apple II, the Atari 800, the Commodore PET and 64.
1977: January - Commodore first shows a prototype PET computer at the Winter Consumer Electronics Show.
1977: January - Commodore's Chuck Peddle shows the first PET to Radio Shack, hoping to have Radio Shack sell it.
1977: April - Commodore Business Machines Inc. shows its PET 2001 computer for US$600. The computer shown is a one-of prototype.
1977: June - Commodore shows its first production PET computers at the Summer Consumer Electronics Show.
1980: May - Commodore Business Machines introduces the CBM 8032 microcomputer, with 32KB RAM and an 80-column monochrome display.
1980: May - Commodore Business Machines introduces the CBM 8050 dual 5 1/4-inch floppy disk drive unit.
1980: Commodore Japan introduces the VIC-1001 (later called the VIC-20 in the USA).
1981: January - Commodore announces the VIC-20, for US$299. During its life, production peaks at 9,000 units per day.
1982: Hi-Toro Incorporated is formed by a group of midwest investors trying to cash in on the video game craze. The name was later changed to Amiga, Incorporated after being confused with the lawn-mower manufacturer, Toro. Within one year, there are rumours of an incredible computer codenamed Lorraine featuring unheard of graphics and sound capabilities, multitasking, 80 column display, 5+ megs of Ram and MORE!
1982: January - Commodore announces the Commodore 64 microcomputer, showing a prototype at the Winter CES, for US$600) for US$595.
1982: January - Commodore introduces the 16K SuperVIC.
1982: April - Commodore announces the B (700) and P (500) series of microcomputers, for US$1700-3000.
1982: June - Commodore Business Machines introduces the BX256 16-bit multiprocessor professional microcomputer, for US$3000.
1982: June - Commodore Business Machines introduces the B128 microcomputer, for US$1700.
1982: June - Commodore Business Machines announces the P128 microcomputer. It is to be an enhanced Commodore 64 with 128KB RAM expandable to 896KB. Price US$995.
1982: September - Commodore Business Machines begins shipping the Commodore 64. Suggested retail price is US$595.
1982: Commodore releases the 1540 Single-Drive Floppy for the VIC-20.
1983: January - Commodore Business Machines begins selling the Commodore 64 through mass merchants, which drops the retail price to US$400.
1983: January - At the Winter CES, Commodore debuts the Commodore SX-100, a portable version of the Commodore 64, with bundled B/W screen, for US$995. Price with color screen and two drives is US$1295.
1983: January - At the Winter CES, Commodore demonstrates the HHC-4 (Hand-Held Computer). It features 24-character LCD screen with 4 KB RAM expandable to 16 KB. This was one of Commodore's pre-PET business products. Price is US$199.
1983: January - Commodore's sales of VIC-20s reaches 1,000,000.
1983: January - Commodore introduces the SX-64, the first color portable computer. Weight is 10.5 kg. It incorporates a 5-inch color monitor and one or two 5.25 inch floppy drive. Price is US$1600.
1983: April - Commodore drops dealer prices on the VIC-20, which allows it to drop below US$100 retail, the first color computer to hit that mark.
1983: April - Commodore offers a US$100 rebate on the purchase of a Commodore 64 on receipt of any computer or videogame unit.
1983: May - Commodore ships the Commodore Executive 64. It features 64KB RAM, detachable keyboard, 5-inch color monitor, 170KB floppy drive, for US$1000.
1983: June - Commodore drops the dealer price of the Commodore 64 to US$200, allowing the retail price to drop to US$200-230.
1983: June - At the Summer CES, Commodore shows the B128/256-80, formerly called P128. It has a monochrome monitor with 80-column display. They also show the Executive 64, formerly the Commodore SX-100. It has a 6-inch color monitor and is priced at US$995.
1983: Commodore debuts the Exactron Stringy Floppy, a high-speed cassette-based data storage device.
1984: January - Jack Tramiel,President of Commodore International, has a disagreement with the major share holder, Irvin Gould. Tramiel leaves the company and a few months later buys Atari.
1984: January - At the Winter CES, Commodore shows the SX-64, formerly called Executive 64. It now includes a 5-inch monitor, and one 170KB 5 1/4 disk drive, for US$995.
1984: January - Commodore announces that during 1983, Commodore sold US$1 billion worth of computers, the first personal computer company to do so.
1984: June - Commodore announces the Commodore 16. Former name was TED-16 and is expected to sell for around US$100, and marketed as "The Learning Machine".
1984: June - Commodore announces the Commodore Plus/4, formerly called the Commodore 264. It will now feature four built-in programs, not just one. Price should be around US$300.
1984: August - Commodore purchases Amiga Corporation.
1984: Commodore stops manufacturing the VIC-20.
1985: January - Commodore unveils the Commodore 128 Personal Computer. It functions as three computers in one: a complete Commodore 64, a CP/M mode, and a new 128KB mode.
1985: January - Commodore announces the 1571 Disk Drive, for the Commodore 128.
1985: July - Commodore unveils the new Amiga 1000 in New York, for US$1300.
1985: Commodore stops production of the Commodore 64 several times during the year, restarting each time based on public demand.
1986: Commodore releases Transformer software for the Amiga, which, along with the Commodore 1020 5 1/4-inch disk drive, provides limited MS-DOS compatibility.
1987: January - Commodore announces the Amiga 500 and the Amiga 2000.
1987: January - Commodore debuts the Commodore 128D in the North American market.
1988: December - Commodore announces the A2286D Bridgeboard for the Amiga 2000. The A2286D contains an 8-MHz Intel 80286 and a 1.2MB 5 1/4-inch disk drive.
1988: Commodore introduces the Amiga 2000HD and the Amiga 2500.
1989: January - Commodore announces that 1 million Amiga computers have been sold.
1989: November - Commodore announces the Amiga 2500/30. It is essentially an Amiga 2000 with a 2630 Accelerator Board (25-MHz 68030 and 68882 math coprocessor).
1990: April - Commodore offers Amiga 1000 owners US$1000 to trade in their Amiga on a new Amiga 2000.
1990: June - Commodore ships the Amiga A3000 computer.
1990: September - NewTek ships the Video Toaster, a hardware/software video effects tool for the Commodore Amiga 2000, for US$1600.
1990: Commodore announces the Amiga 3000. Prices start at US$4100 with a monitor.
1991: January - Commodore releases the CDTV package. It features a CD-ROM player integrated with a 7.16-MHz 68000-based Amiga 500. List price is US$1000.
1992: Commodore introduces the Amiga 600 for a base price of $500.
1994: Commodore International and Commodore Electronics (two of the many international components of Commodore Business Machines) file for voluntary liquidation.
1995: April - At an auction in New York, ESCOM buys all rights, properties, and technologies of Commodore.
Present: Gateway 2000 currently owns the Amiga line of computers.

Thraeryn 06-02-2003 08:51 PM

Tandy 1000 HX. I remember sitting around with my mom as she typed "The Oregon Trail" and "Marco Polo" in GWBasic. And originally connecting to Prodigy when all I had was a CGA monitor. ;)

Meridae'n 06-02-2003 08:55 PM

I had the ol' Commodore 64... used to load games with the tape recorder! Played 'commando' and 'Pitstop II' for hours...

merkerguitars 06-02-2003 09:50 PM

First computer I owned was an Apple IIGs...color screen man...no hard drive...everything ran off of 3.5 or 5.25 floppys. Then my parents "rented" a 386 that had dos 6.22 on it....they joys of command prompt then we bought a packard bell with a 486 dx processor and 64mb of ram and a 2 gig hard drive with windows 3.1 that was the shit.....and then eventually upgraded it to windows 95

mirevolver 06-02-2003 10:51 PM

An NCR with a 286 processor and an EGA monitor.

MacGnG 06-02-2003 11:13 PM

Apple IIc and IIe (since i can remember)
Performa 575 old all-in-one (mac 93)
PowerMac 6500/225 (decent in 97)
eMac 700 (last fall)

syquestrd270 06-03-2003 12:30 AM

I had the original Osborne computer with the tiny little monochrome screen and an external 10" screen. Played the Zork series and some ASCII based games.

Not a bad system, but weighed quite a bit for a portable computer :-)

LutherMac 06-03-2003 05:56 AM

I really don't remember what I had first... seems like I got both of them at the same time. It was either an Atari 800 or a TI99-4A....

Both of them had the excruciatingly slow cassette drives... but the one thing that I liked about the casette drive, certain programs actually had recorded audio (played directly from the cassette of course)

I also had the voice syth box for the Ti99, though I really don't remember the quality anymore... way too long ago.

Most I remember doing on both computers was learning to program BASIC with my dad.. my early start on my software development career....

rockogre 06-03-2003 07:03 AM

The first one I owned was a Commodore 64 with two, count em, two disk drives. I like lots of power.

I don't know the designation of the first computer I got to play with, but it was on a Navy ship. It read punched cards and the memory drum was bigger than my Chevy Suburban. I think it ran at about 2 kilohertz.

blindawg 06-03-2003 07:14 AM

TI99-4A.... I laugh thinking abou it now... BUt I had the "cool beige one" not the uncool black and crome.. Just before tehy stopped making them

icy_ca 06-03-2003 09:02 AM

I had a Timex about 22 years ago. Typed BASIC all night long on the TV to store on an audio cassette to play pong or something.
Later got a Tandy and never went back to programming.

G_Whiz 06-03-2003 09:08 AM

Ah the old days. I can remember all of the computers mentioned, even though I didn't use them all.

Ruprex - Thanks for the history of Commodore, but all I asked is which was your first computer. Although to add a corollary, Jack Tramiel got cut out at Commodore and bought Atari. He brought out the Atari ST computer line which was actually based off the old C-64 mobo. I owned several of those, including the Stacy (a portable that I hesitate to call a notebook).

Mukiebear1 06-03-2003 09:24 AM

I had a crappy powermac...but hey..it was better than the other stuff out there when it came out....

troit 06-03-2003 11:57 AM

Vic20 then C64. Remember when you had to use a tape drive to load a game. Pop the sucker in and leave for 20 minutes while it loaded.... :)


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