Karla Homolka is out

[Charlatan]

After fully serving her term in prison (12 years) Karla Homolka was released from prison yesterday.

There are many people *very* steamed about this... I'm not sure how I feel about it.

On one hand, the prosecution fucked up. They cut a deal with her and we have to live with it.

On the other hand, I am a firm believer in rehabilitation. And while her crimes are horrific, I do believe that people can change. They can be remorseful etc. Does this apply to her? I don't know enough to be her judge.

I suspect that she will be hounded by the media and/or vigilante types for the next year or so (if not, the rest of her life).

What do you think?

[streak_56]

I think after this is all done and said with, there shouldn't be any problem with her. Though as my personal opinion and just hearing things straight from the news, I would be skeptical to *if* she is really rehabilitated. In a couple years, we'll never even hear a rumbling of her. It'll last atleast as you said Charlatan one year, but after that I believe that gradually it will all die down.

I know there will be some out there wanting her head. Especially where she is planning to live. But you'll always have people like that. I would think that any regular murderer would have the same problem. Karla Homolka will have ample of people after her because of the media attention. She'll have to learn to deal with it, and I sure as hell hope that she doesn't commit another crime.

[streak_56]

*edit* double posted

[OFKU0]

Originally Posted by Charlatan

On one hand, the prosecution fucked up. They cut a deal with her and we have to live with it.

I wouldn't say the prosecution fucked up. If memory serves me correctly, darling Karla cut a deal before the videotapes of her as a co- conspirator surfaced. Other wise she'd be in prison today and for the rest of her life like her partner in crime is. Her lawyer at the time should be in jail also since he was in possession of the tapes when the deal was arranged.

I really don't know what to do with her media wise though. Follow her everywhere and make a bigger celebrity out of her or leave her alone and hope she doesn't kill anyone else. Does the Elizabeth Fry Society have a vested interest in her as a money maker (percentage wise for possible books, a movie, Oprah etc) since they are nurturing and coddling her? Sorry. Forgot she's a women. She's therefore exempt from all responsibility except for victimhood.

Up until recently she was having a sexually communicative relationship between prisons with some other killer. Very nice. And remorse? Hard to do that when one is the poor victim.

She doesn't fool me for a second. I think people who say things like,.."she did her time so she should have a chance to live her life" are idiots. The two girls she helped kill as well as her sister certainly didn't get a chance at living their lives.

To bad for the Ice Cap endorsement for Tim Horton's. I'll bet that was planned as well. She's not stupid. Most psychopaths aren't. She hasn't changed one bit. Not even for the free education she received and we as taxpayers paid for it(Degree in Psychology from Queen's University in Kingston) They must be proud she is an alumnus.

I wish they would have killed her. I know, I know the bleeding heart sentiment,..an eye for an eye makes everyone blind blah, blah, blah. When they have videotaped proof of her evil, and she get's 12 years for it, is simply uncomprehensible.

My prediction. She will kill again. It's in her blood.

[feelgood]

Who gives a fuck?

This is just another classic case of over blown media attention on a case. There are far worst criminals in the system as well those that have been released and everybody is shitting their pants over Homolka?

[Minx]

I couldn't believe it when she went crying to the courts trying to get protection from the media for when she was released. Please. She did the time in jail because she was a party to awful crimes. She deserves every bit of harassment she gets. If you don't want to lose your reputation/privacy/safety then don't be a party to a crime and you won't end up with your ass in jail.

As far as I am concerned - she is just lucky the parents of the poor girls that were murdered don't get their hands on her. In my opinion - the bitch doesn't deserve any protection or special treatment.

[OFKU0]

And for Bernardo, the other half of the killing machine

Wed, July 6, 2005

Karla to blame: Bernardo Blindfold slip led Homolka to plot Mahaffy murder
By CP

TORONTO -- An "agitated" Paul Bernardo continues to insist it was his intention to set Ontario schoolgirl Leslie Mahaffy free and that Karla Homolka hatched a murder plot on her own, CBC's The National reported yesterday.

Bernardo spoke with Ontario Provincial Police Friday before discussing his claim with his lawyer, Tony Bryant, that a panicked Homolka attempted to murder Mahaffy when the young girl's blindfold fell off, Bryant said in an interview with the CBC.

Bryant said his client wants people to know it was his intention to set the rape victim free and that it was Homolka who panicked, despite her efforts to present herself as a submissive, battered woman acting on Bernardo's whims.

Bernardo, who insisted at his trial that Homolka choked Mahaffy and Kristen French to death, is barred from speaking publicly about the case.

"He wanted to get the message across that she actually tried to kill Leslie Mahaffy by means of an embolism, by injecting an air bubble into her bloodstream," Bryant said.


BLINDFOLD FELL OFF

"Because she was afraid that because the blindfold had fallen off, that she (Mahaffy) would be able to recognize Paul (Bernardo) and presumably herself."

Homolka agreed to the 12-year sentence for her role in the rape, torture and death of French and Mahaffy, as well as that of her own 15-year-old sister Tammy.

In exchange, she testified against ex-husband Bernardo, who was convicted in 1995 on two counts of first-degree murder and later declared a dangerous offender.

Bryant said Bernardo couldn't keep his silence anymore, as Homolka garners international media attention -- granting a one-on-one interview to tell her side of the story to CBC's French-language network on her first day of her freedom. after serving 12 years.

"He became agitated maybe as a result of seeing all the media attention over the last several months," Bryant told CBC.

Neither police nor the Ontario's Crown Attorney's office would comment, CBC reported.

http://www.ottawasun.com/

Maybe he's just pissed that he is still in prison and will always be, while darling Karla get's to move on with her life. Hmmm,...he can't talk to the media but Karla can? Should have killed both of them. Then Karla wouldn't have a chance to reap the rewards of her crime (I'm sure she has been offered big bucks to tell her story,...boo hoo,.. "I was brainwashed, he would have killed me if I didn't go along with it,..I'm a victim",...) and he wouldn't get the chance to jerk off to the memories of being the Scarborough rapist and at least pulling his wang thinking of the torture/ vicious sex attacks/ murders of three young girls.

So sad for the families though that they have to relive this on a daily basis, but out of bad comes good, hopefully. Maybe the next time something like this happens, Canadians will be so outraged that a plea bargain won't even be an after thought.

[hossified]

she needs to be iced and not in a good way. She needs to live the rest of her life in fear, and always be looking behind her. I hope that somebody who is dying of some terminal disease or womthing decides to take her out on their way out. She was responsible for killing her own sister. I don't even get how her parents are supporting her. Yeah maybe she was influenced by bernardo at the time.....but she's doing some bad things in those vids too! She paid off her debt....screw that, she hasn't even paid off the interest~!

[Charlatan]

I'm interested to know if your animosity is specific to Homolka... do you believe that murderers can be rehabilitated at all?

[Ace_O_Spades]

Honestly who cares? She served her term, let her continue her life, there's nothing we can do about it anymore.

There are far more important issues the media could be focusing on than hounding this woman after she has been released from prison

[highthief]

Originally Posted by feelgood

Who gives a fuck?

This is just another classic case of over blown media attention on a case. There are far worst criminals in the system as well those that have been released and everybody is shitting their pants over Homolka?

I agree - I'm far, far, far more concerned about gangbangers and Hell's Angel's and the like who get released and who will almost certainly return to a life of crime than I am about Homolka.

Would it be nice if she had gotten a longer prison term? Sure. But she didn't and there are bigger fish to fry...

[hossified]

bigger fish to fry??? Have you read or followed the details that took place during the torture of thei captors?? I lived in st.catharines while this was going on, i've met the parents of the victims......trust me, you're attitude would change 180 degrees if you saw this stuff a little closer. Homolka is more than a murderer......she is sick in the head, and no I don't think you can rehab someone that messed up. There's a huge difference between just shooting someone to get it over with....and keeping someone prisoner in your house, degrading them, pissing on them, using them for a human sex toy...and than chopping them up, all the while telling them they are going to die. Imagine the torture those 17 year old girls went thru......think of one of them being your daughter and than ask, has she 'done her time', and now deserves to be free.......

[highthief]

Originally Posted by hossified

bigger fish to fry??? Have you read or followed the details that took place during the torture of thei captors?? I lived in st.catharines while this was going on, i've met the parents of the victims......trust me, you're attitude would change 180 degrees if you saw this stuff a little closer. Homolka is more than a murderer......she is sick in the head, and no I don't think you can rehab someone that messed up. There's a huge difference between just shooting someone to get it over with....and keeping someone prisoner in your house, degrading them, pissing on them, using them for a human sex toy...and than chopping them up, all the while telling them they are going to die. Imagine the torture those 17 year old girls went thru......think of one of them being your daughter and than ask, has she 'done her time', and now deserves to be free.......

Yes, bigger fish to fry. If people were putting a fraction of the attention focused on Homolka on gangsters and bikers that are getting out of prison before their terms are up, we'd be a lot better served.

You grew up in St. Catherines - that's nice. I grew up in Montreal with the Angels and the Outlaws killing one another and blowing each other up right next door to me, killing innocent civilians and raping girls in the small towns. Trust ME, if you grew up with that going on, you'd be more concerned, and rightly so, with gangsters and bikers than with Karla.

[highthief]

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/03/24.../trudeau040324

Guys like this. Some say he killed dozens of people. But he's out and still a criminal.

[mew]

I work with someone who knows the people who she used to work with. They all said that she was always scheming, manipulative, backstabbing and causing problems at work. She was a vet tech, so she was able to steal halothane and drugs at work which she used on the victims. I believe shes a fake and a fraud. I hate to say it, but I dont care if the mob kills her. Id rather die than have my husband rape my sister.

[vox_rox]

I have tried to remain neutral about the whole topic, but I just have to say something after reading all these posts.

Firstly, I am in no position to say who should live, who should die, who should be in prison etc. If it comes down to it, I just think there are people who make this planet a better place, and those that do the opposite. Homolka is one of the latter, and from that perspective, I really don't concern myself with her.

In the final analysis, if she dies, she dies, and what am I to do about it. Mourn her death? Cause her death? I choose neither. I will look after myself as best I can, I will look after my friends and family to the best of my ability, and I will try to look out for other citizens, as I am able to from time to time. Everything else is beyond my reach.

However, the one thing that I find disturbing in this thread is the overwhelming sense of hatred. This is such a waste of energy, and a negative emotion to carry. Did she do awful things to other people? Yes, absolutely. But to carry around a hatred for her is time consuming and emotionally expensive. Further, hate feeds hate, and before you know it, that hate takes the form of physical actions directed towards others.

How does this serve anyone? What good does hate and violence bring to anyone? In times like this, I like to think of the best quotations in the history of mankind. "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." Mahatma Gandhi said this, and it still rings true today, in fact maybe even more so.

Really, just try it. It's amazing how much more peaceful your life becomes when you drop off the huge emotional baggage of hate.

Peace,

Pierre

[Janey]

Originally Posted by OFKU0

Not even for the free education she received and we as taxpayers paid for it(Degree in Psychology from Queen's University in Kingston) They must be proud she is an alumnus.

don't think for a moment that we're proud of that. What we are proud of is being able to provide this kind service for those who wish to take the opportunity to self-improve. I'm sure that we aren't the only school that offers this type of programme.

[OFKU0]

Originally Posted by vox_rox

Really, just try it. It's amazing how much more peaceful your life becomes when you drop off the huge emotional baggage of hate.

Peace,

Pierre

Well shit. And I thought watching Dr. Phil was helping me become the bestest person in the whole wide world. Should never have given up on Oprah. Now I feel terrible.

[vox_rox]

Originally Posted by OFKU0

Well shit. And I thought watching Dr. Phil was helping me become the bestest person in the whole wide world. Should never have given up on Oprah. Now I feel terrible.

Har! Doc Phil has nuthin' on my "give peace a chance" platform. I just want us all to get along, that's all. Is that too much to ask? Hmmm?

Peace to you OFKU0,

And to all,

Pierre