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inkriminator · 07-06-2006, 05:43 PM

I recently cooked a beef dish and I used cinnamon which gives the dish a certain kick but which also gives it a horribly repulsive smell. It isn't that it smells bad so much as it smells weird, which turns one off, you just wouldn't expect this dish to smell like it does. My question is what ingredients can I put in to nullify the smell without changing the taste appreciably.

The ingredients in the dish are as follows, i'm approximating because I cook by sight, not by measurements

~1 lb beef
4 potatoes
~4-5 Tablespoons of Red Chilli Peppers
~2 Tbsp Salt
~1Tbsp Black Pepper
~1/4-1/2 cup lemon juice
5-7 tomatoes
~1 tablespoon ground cinnamon (*almost forgot to add this*)

i've thought of using cilantro or saffron, but I don't know. It tastes so good though i really don't want to alter the taste at all. My other option will be to serve it cold which kills the smell, but I dunno if people will handle that.

Sage · 07-06-2006, 06:26 PM

That sounds like a really wierd recipie...

Are you sure it's the cinnamon that gives it a wierd smell? Was the cinnamon fresh? Did you burn anything/ spill anything on the burner? There really isn't a taste subsitute for cinnamon... my suggestion would be making it again, only with fresh ground cinnamon and seeing how that goes

little_tippler · 07-07-2006, 04:00 AM

I've had a beef stew with cinammon in it before so I know what you're talking about. It's really quite yummy in a surprising way. I can see how the smell would put some people off but I think it's quite nice because it's so different. Perhaps what's giving your recipe the nasty smell isn't the cinammon but rather the combinatio of ingredients...if you change something else in the recipe and keep the cinammon, then maybe it'll work. Sorry I can't help more.

maleficent · 07-07-2006, 06:35 AM

I love the smell of cinnamon so ican't imagine it ever smelling repulsive, but Iwonder if the acidity of the lemon juice is causing a strange reaction...

I love cinnamon in savory dishes- it gives it just a nice 'warmth' to them...

ratbastid · 07-07-2006, 06:41 AM

You haven't said much about what you do with those ingredients. Could it be that you're burning the cinnamon? Burnt cinnamon doesn't smell very nice.

maleficent · 07-07-2006, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by inkriminator

i've thought of using cilantro or saffron, but I don't know. It tastes so good though i really don't want to alter the taste at all. My other option will be to serve it cold which kills the smell, but I dunno if people will handle that.

If you wanted a substitution.. saffron is generally used more for color than taste... tumeric probably has a better taste for the same color... Cilantro has a very very different taste than cinnamon - you're going from warmth to cilantro being very green and fresh...

the only other substition i could think of would be cumin-- it's got the warmth of cinnamon but it's smokier... and it would go well with the peppers

inkriminator · 07-07-2006, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage

That sounds like a really wierd recipie...

Are you sure it's the cinnamon that gives it a wierd smell? Was the cinnamon fresh? Did you burn anything/ spill anything on the burner? There really isn't a taste subsitute for cinnamon... my suggestion would be making it again, only with fresh ground cinnamon and seeing how that goes

Most of my recipes are weird, i love experimenting. i'm positive it's the Cinnamon, cinnamon has a very distinctive smell. The Cinnamon came from a bottle, very unfresh. I'm fairly certain I didn't burn anything and positive that I didn't spill anything. I wasn't looking for a substitute ingredient, I was looking for an additional ingredient that would nullify the smell of the cinnamon.

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Originally Posted by maleficent

I love the smell of cinnamon so ican't imagine it ever smelling repulsive, but Iwonder if the acidity of the lemon juice is causing a strange reaction...

I love cinnamon in savory dishes- it gives it just a nice 'warmth' to them...

That warmth is what I was looking for. See, the smell isn't so bad in itself, for me it's simply that i don't expect a dish to smell so strongly of cinnamon. I associate cinnamon most strongly with tea, b/c I put cinnamon in my tea, so when I'm smelling it in my dish, it's very offputting. It's like seeing a dog walk on two feet, nothing is really wrong with it, it just messes with my mind a bit.

I hadn't thought about hwo the ingredients are acting together like how you and little_tippler said...I might have to experiment with this somehow because the smell did seem especially strong for the amount of cinnamon I put into it, I'm going to look into that.

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Originally Posted by Ratbastid

You haven't said much about what you do with those ingredients. Could it be that you're burning the cinnamon? Burnt cinnamon doesn't smell very nice.

Well I just through everything in a big ol pot and let it stew at medium heat for about twenty minutes with occasional stirring. I dunno if that burnt the cinnamon or not, I may try adding the cinnamon in later after most of hte cooking is done. another excuse to cook

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Originally Posted by Maleficent

If you wanted a substitution.. saffron is generally used more for color than taste... tumeric probably has a better taste for the same color... Cilantro has a very very different taste than cinnamon - you're going from warmth to cilantro being very green and fresh...

the only other substition i could think of would be cumin-- it's got the warmth of cinnamon but it's smokier... and it would go well with the peppers

I guess I wasn't being to clear, I want to add something to the dish I currently have that would provide smell without taste to hopefully mask the cinnamon. You know how if you put too much salt in something you can add lemon to hide it? I'm looking for something like that. Although cumin is an interesting idea...I usually only use cumin when I have onions, I'd like to see how it does by itself.

maleficent · 07-07-2006, 08:04 AM

or even try just a little less cinnamon... the flavor will still be there- but it'd be subtle... kinda like nutmeg being added to cream sauces- you are barely using any - but the subtle flavor is there- any more than a dash or so and it'd change it...

I knew what you were asking for to begin with- I don't know of anything that masks the cinnamon taste..

07-06-2006, 05:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
inkriminator Insane	Reducing the Smell of a Dish I recently cooked a beef dish and I used cinnamon which gives the dish a certain kick but which also gives it a horribly repulsive smell. It isn't that it smells bad so much as it smells weird, which turns one off, you just wouldn't expect this dish to smell like it does. My question is what ingredients can I put in to nullify the smell without changing the taste appreciably. The ingredients in the dish are as follows, i'm approximating because I cook by sight, not by measurements ~1 lb beef 4 potatoes ~4-5 Tablespoons of Red Chilli Peppers ~2 Tbsp Salt ~1Tbsp Black Pepper ~1/4-1/2 cup lemon juice 5-7 tomatoes ~1 tablespoon ground cinnamon (almost forgot to add this) i've thought of using cilantro or saffron, but I don't know. It tastes so good though i really don't want to alter the taste at all. My other option will be to serve it cold which kills the smell, but I dunno if people will handle that. Last edited by inkriminator; 07-06-2006 at 05:44 PM.. Reason: forgot the most important ingredient

07-06-2006, 06:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sage hoarding all the big girl panties since 2005 Location: North side	That sounds like a really wierd recipie... Are you sure it's the cinnamon that gives it a wierd smell? Was the cinnamon fresh? Did you burn anything/ spill anything on the burner? There really isn't a taste subsitute for cinnamon... my suggestion would be making it again, only with fresh ground cinnamon and seeing how that goes __________________ Sage knows our mythic history, King Arthur's and Sir Caradoc's She answers hard acrostics, has a pretty taste for paradox She quotes in elegiacs all the crimes of Heliogabalus In conics she can floor peculiarities parabolous -C'hi

07-07-2006, 04:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
little_tippler Leaning against the -Sun- Super Moderator Location: on the other side	I've had a beef stew with cinammon in it before so I know what you're talking about. It's really quite yummy in a surprising way. I can see how the smell would put some people off but I think it's quite nice because it's so different. Perhaps what's giving your recipe the nasty smell isn't the cinammon but rather the combinatio of ingredients...if you change something else in the recipe and keep the cinammon, then maybe it'll work. Sorry I can't help more. __________________ Whether we write or speak or do but look We are ever unapparent. What we are Cannot be transfused into word or book. Our soul from us is infinitely far. However much we give our thoughts the will To be our soul and gesture it abroad, Our hearts are incommunicable still. In what we show ourselves we are ignored. The abyss from soul to soul cannot be bridged By any skill of thought or trick of seeming. Unto our very selves we are abridged When we would utter to our thought our being. We are our dreams of ourselves, souls by gleams, And each to each other dreams of others' dreams. Fernando Pessoa, 1918

07-07-2006, 06:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	I love the smell of cinnamon so ican't imagine it ever smelling repulsive, but Iwonder if the acidity of the lemon juice is causing a strange reaction... I love cinnamon in savory dishes- it gives it just a nice 'warmth' to them... __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

07-07-2006, 08:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	or even try just a little less cinnamon... the flavor will still be there- but it'd be subtle... kinda like nutmeg being added to cream sauces- you are barely using any - but the subtle flavor is there- any more than a dash or so and it'd change it... I knew what you were asking for to begin with- I don't know of anything that masks the cinnamon taste.. __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

07-07-2006, 06:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	You haven't said much about what you do with those ingredients. Could it be that you're burning the cinnamon? Burnt cinnamon doesn't smell very nice.