I think the whole deal of Terry giving the idol to Danielle never actually happened. They played up that possibility pretty hard (and they sure had me going). Terry COULD have given it to Austin and that would have spelled the end for Aras, but I guess Terry figures he'll just keep getting immunity because he's so damn strong.

Excellent episode. Looks like the cat is out of the bag and Terry will be under a microscope.

Well I think the deal was that she would get the idol if (and only if) she helped vote off Aras. That's probably why Terry didn't give it to either Sally or Austin (as there was not guarantee that they would then give it to Danielle). I'm sure both Bruce and Danielle have gone back to Shane & Co. with the news that Terry has it though.

Don't assume we'll never know. We'll find out next week, that's the motivation the editors built in to force us to keep watching. Damn those editors!!!

It's too often that people don't take matters into their own hands when they have the opportunity. Most are too content to follow some other group around than to be proactive.

Sorry, but Terry is so toast. It will be fun when the hidden immunity idol gets used.

Terry has to run the table it seems, though next week's teaser hints that Shane may shake things up. Perhaps he's so sick of Danielle and Courtney that he chooses to go final 4 with the guys (Aras, Bruce and Terry)? Otherwise the game will get interesting if/when Casaya has to start going at one another for the first time.

Im dying to know who gets hurt and how!!!!

Well even if Terry doesn't win immunity, the hidden idol will be coming out. So no matter what Casaya is going to start shaking up. I bet Arus get's the axe this week.

Imo, Bruce needs to go next. He's too frakking wishy-washy for my taste.
I used to like him. Now, not so much.

They are teasing it was Bruce (him being buckled over in pain in the previews), but that could just be a swerve and it could be someone else.

They need to kick out Shane or Arus next. Those are the strongest players. I bet the girls take over now. They'll be the last 3 standing, unless Terry can win out on immunity challenges and uses the hidden when they are down to 4.

I'm pretty confident that this group of girls isn't clever enough to turn this game to their advantage

too bad about Bruce. That had to hurt like a muthatrucka

Can shane be anymore of a bad loser? good god I am SO sick of him

I hate it for Bruce, I really do that had to be an awful thing to go thru, Im glad it wasnt his appendix though

Indeed, that must have been seriously painfull, it hurt to see how badly his hands were shaking that he couldnt even take the puffer.

On the other hand, Courtney and Shane having a sulkfest was pretty funny.

Danielle is so mega hot!

Also, isn't "Master Sensei" a bit redundant; kind of like "Head Leader"?

A doctor told me that an impacted bowel is in the top 10 worst pains that a person can go through.

Hmmph.

Good episode, as I had missed a few with real life getting in the way of my precious Survivor.

Well, down to the count, and I am surprised that Shane is talking about bringing the Most Annoying Girl to the final two. You can always weed out the real good strategists when they start discussing bringing the dead weight with them into the final.


So, what next?
If I was producing the show, I would switch up Outcast Island and turn it into a 5 star resort. The other folks are thinking that they "won" a challenge, and they are punishing someone by sending them to the island. In fact, the outcast is loading up on carbs, getting a massage, good nights sleep in silk sheets, even getting comfort from home (letter, phone call, or loved one with them).

I like spinning things, so that is just me.

The Vehicle Challenge is soon, as is the Loved One Visit challenge. Dude is still around with his hidden idol, and I think those things can splinter whatever alliance is left.

Who do you guys think will be in the final 2? I say Shane and the Annoying Girl.

I don't honestly think he's thinking about this as a first option, I think it was his backup when he was freaking out about Cirie flipping on him. He's so nuts it's unbelievable, but the entertainment value he adds is immeasurable. I still can't believe no one has looked ahead and broke off with Terry, esp. those who will obviously be at the bottom of the pecking order when it comes time to boot of anyone but Terry. I have to say despite the lack of flopping, the constant guessing and secret idol have kept things interesting in what would have been an otherwise extremely boring season - post merger.

What was the Catch phrase? Oh yeah, getting "Pagong'ed".

The show does lose something when everyone knows who is going next. The producers must actively combat that, in new and interesting ways.

Actually, for those two it's the perfect matchup. Everyone hates her so it's good for him and the only person more hated than her is Shane. He's the only one she can beat and vice versa.

Last night I was really impressed with the way Cirie talked to Shane. He was livid and she calmed him down quick.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'd definitely walk on eggshells with him personally, he seems like the type who could just totally lose it at any time, for any reason. I see what you're saying about Courtney too, being the perfect matchup for Shane, but I don't know that that's really what he's after, unless he's a better actor than he seems. I'm just waiting for danielle, to flip with Terry and try to find some support, has to be coming soon.

The previews for next week look interesting with them making shane look like he's lost his mind lol

again....

though i thought it was interesting that his "flipping out" about Cerie was really just a calculated maneuver to get people back in line. He may be nuts, but he has figured out the psychological side of this game

If the rumors I hear are true, then I'll have to say no to at least one of those choices.

I hope Shane has totally lost it, and I hope he sticks around. If he is genuinely insane, he could easily make this the best Survivor ever, they better not get rid of him. Using a piece of wood as a Blackberry... wow... what an interesting statement about sanity and postmodernism in everyday America. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.

Tough break for Bruce, hope that all came out OK for him. Just puts Terry one spot closer. With that idol, he is for sure top 5.

Well, I was very happy that Terry won immunity and the car, well deserved in my opinion. I am yet again frustrated with Danielle, she should have stayed with the people she can win against which is courtney and terry (although i guess you can say if she switched alliances she could be rejected as winner).

Anyhow, Aras is still in the game which annoys me. Cirie is an evil manipulator, geez!

Wow... I had no idea Cirie had it in her to put herself in control of the game... let's see if she can hang on to it... It's going to be really tough to keep Danielle in line in an alliance. I wonder if Danielle realizes she just really screwed herself over if she ends up going to the final 2? She just stabbed three jury members in the back. Cirie and Aras didn't have much to lose, so props to them from latching onto Danielle's indecisiveness.

It's the second time Danielle seemed to be working with Terry, that she has wavered and went back with the group.

I knew Cirie had it in her to manipulate people. She was supposed to go about week 2, but she was able to get out of that. I think she's been lying low, and now she's back to try to run it. She can't win challenges though, so she's going to need some help.

Can anyone left in the game beat Terry if he makes it to the final two? It would seem to be embaressing for the jury to vote him out after overcoming the other tribe's alliance and winning so many immunity challanges. It looks like the only way to stop him is if the producers put in some logic and or team challanges to give the others a chance.

Please Please Please no immunity challenge that you have to answer a question right to get to take someone out. Like where you chop their rope 3 times, their voodoo doll burns. I'm fine if it's for a reward, but it's too easy for the majority to get someone out of the game with those dumb challenges.

I don't think Terry is the sure shot to win if he is final 2. He for sure gets Austin and Sally's vote... But I think the other tribe really doesn't like him. I think they'd stick with the original clan... That being said, I think Terry has a chance to win out, and if he loses won, at least he has the idol.

I was really impressed with Cirie's reasoning, and manipulating. She's doing an awesome job, especially given that she has little or no physical edge in the game. Unforunately for her, I don't think she's going to be able to make it past F3. No one left, in their right mind (SHANE!!!!!) would choose her to go to F2 with them, it just doesn't make sense, she's pissed basically no one off. I'm all for her going as far as possible. I also want Shane to go as far as possible, if only because he's bat shit crazy.

Although Shane was fun to watch, he well be more entertaining, mad on the jury. I figured Terry could win out, he's for sure top 3, and he'll probably win that one. I think there is a great chance he will take it all. The others have screwed up their alliance too much.

Although the previews for next week Spoiler: How many times will Terry listen to Danielle. She's only deceived him about 3 times now

Shane leaving (and probably being pretty mad about it) will really help Terry if he gets to the final 2. Can't see Shane voting for one of his former alliance members. I'm so pulling for Terry, like I haven't pulled for anyone on any Survivor series before. He's facing ridiculous odds and has won 5 immunities in a row (is that a record?).

You never know. Double crossed jury members often vote with the rationale that their backstabber "played the game well". It depends on how "moral" the jury is.

i think it's hilarious that Shane felt safe just one tribal council after the same 3 people (Aras, Cerie, Danielle) pulled the rug out from under him with the Courtney vote. Cerie will be hung out to dry for the amount of lying she's done (should she make final two)

If Terry doesn't give up the immunity idol, why would anyone form an alliance with him now? I think if he continues to win immunity then he doesn't vote or does he? The spoiler showing him planning something with Danielle next week doesn't seem to make sense for her unless she gets the idol.

I wonder if the producers will figure out an immunity challange that Terry can't win in order to make the game more interesting.

I assume that if you keep the immunity idol all the way to the final two that it is worthless and does not protect you from the jury.

Dang, I'm upset that my entertainment value survivor Shane is now gone.

Props to Terry for his amazing success in the face of overpowering numbers. He definately deserves to win, and I think his sheer dominance of the challenges may win him some votes, if (when) he makes it to the final 2.

Oh, man, can you guys imagine Terry sitting out of the grueling endurance challenge of the final three because he has the individual immunity?

That would be a challenge to watch.

And I think in the very first Survivor, Kelly (?) also won 5-7 immunity challenges in a row. Noone wanted to have her around, but when you get to that point, you are winning reward challenges.

As someone who has skipped a few meals (not by choice), I have to say that you really cannot appreciate what carbs and protein will do to your system when you are very hungry. It is like a boost of adrenaline. Other competitors cannot keep up with him if he is getting chicken, peanut butter and beer.

Down to the final 4. We have the Car Challenge next.

Cirie
Aras
Danielle
Terry

I think Terry or Aras will win the vehicle. If they pull the whole "Give your tribe-mates a vehicle each instead" then I think the winner will do it, rather than that idiot last season.

If I was Terry, who would I want with me in the final 2? Danielle, I guess.

Um, didn't Terry already win a car?

WHAT??

I know I missed a couple of episodes, but the vehicle challenge was supposed to be in the final 4.

I watched last night.


Terry won a car?

Terry won the car last week.

And the final four is the last time the immunity idol can be played, so it's this week or never.

Daniell aligning herself with Terry only makes sense if she has Cerie with her too (so they can vote out Aras). a 2 vs 2 vote makes sense for nobody

A 2 vs 2 vote makes sense if one of the people who has 2 also has the immunity idol. Think about it... Danielle and Terry vote for Aras, Aras and Cirie vote for Danielle, while terry has individual immunity and gives the hidden idol to Danielle. Aras is forced out in a 2 vs. 2 situation.

Did anyone else notice this article? It appears that they have suspended betting on Survivor due to the high number of bets coming in for Spoiler: Danielle. It looks like insiders have bet heavy on at least one other Survivor edition. I guess this makes for good odds that Spoiler: Danielle takes it all. This is dated April 11 so who knows.

Sorry if this was already posted, it is news to me. :)

That's what I was hinting to earlier in the thread when I said "if the rumors are true", but I didn't spill the beans in case folks didn't want to know. The same thing happened during The Amazing Race 7 when a ton of bets started flooding in for the eventual winners Uchenna and Joyce.

Spoiler: If Danielle wins it all then I guess one way this can play out is Aras wins the next immunity and Terry uses his immunity idol, then Cirie and Danielle have a tie breaker, then Aras and Danielle vote Terry off, then the jury votes for Danielle. It will be a shame since no one had to work harder than Terry having to beat folks half his age so many times.

That stuff should definitely be spoiler-tagged, don't you think? anyway....

OK, I went through and added spoiler tags liberally.

Please do not post stuff that can ruin the outcome of the show without using the spoiler tags.

I think Terry will compete in this next immunity challenge. If he wins it, he gives it to his person of choice, and then if they vote for terry, he just uses the secret immunity idol. That way he can control down to 2 who gets kicked.

I heard that rumor as well. The betting thing sucks.

Speculating on who is going to win is half the fun. If you check my past posts you will see that I am wrong more than I am right, LOL.

I've got no problem speculating who is going to win, but the post above I would consider a spoiler.... There has been betting multiple times before and they are often correct.

I do hope its wrong though!

GAHHHHHHHHHH what a tease last night!

Hundred bucks says Cirie couldn't light a match in a forest fire.

Excellent episode, and I think the final 2 are going to be Danielle and Aras. Terry seemed 'off his game' last episode.

If I was Danielle or Aras, I would not want to go against Terry into the final 2. He has the "Look what a great competitor I am" card to play. Better not to risk it.

Well, A) she lit a fire with flint last night, and B) in the preview, she seems to have a blaze going.

/Ben takes off his satirical hat, looks around the room...

Okaaaaaaaaay then. I would like to state that I think that Danielle is going to win the tie-break.

In the previews for next week, Cirie's fire was much bigger. Which means Danielle wins due to how the producers always try and hype up the actual loser.

Terry blew it, he should have given Danielle the hidden idol.

My guess is that Arus wins the next immunity and takes Danielle.

Although that may seem like a good tactic, it could have backfired massively. Danielle has backstabbed Terry twice now, why should he trust her a third time to not let out that she has the idol so they can get rid of Terry who would then be unprotected.

He made the right choice.

^ I totally agree. Terry finally didn't win the necklace, so he made the right choice. If he had won it again, then the idol may well have come into play. I guess we'll never know.

The rest of the tribe has been trying to get rid of Terry for quite a while now, and as soon as he stuck his neck out, they would have slashed it, at least that's my guess.

BTW, that whole "...to be continued" crap really burned me up. My wife too! Shame on you, CBS.

Agreed, Danielle has already screwed him over, she may well have done so again.

I don't believe Cirie made that fire, at all. No way in hell. You see how far away she was holding the flint from the leaf?
Plus, I don't recall seeing any tender to help start it with.
Then with a few judicious edits, she suddenly has a big handful of blazing tender going. :rolleyes: Shenanigans! ;)

Terry's got my vote.

I think Terry's only chance was to make an alliance with someone before the last vote. He has to know that everyone else will want to get rid of him before the final 2. I think he should have given the immunity idol to Danielle with a promise to not vote him off and hope she would honor it. I really don't see how he can win any other way unless there are more immunity challanges he can win.

Last weeks immunity challange was more puzzle solving than physical ability so the producers figured out a way to stop his winning streak.

these challenges are a massive undertaking to set up. Not only do they have to construct the part you see, but also have to set up (and hide) numerous camera positions, running power, signal, etc., etc. These are all planned far in advance. In know way do I believe that the producers can/do pick challenges with the intent of giving someone an advantage and/or ending someone's winning streak.

I guess I think that the producers try to set things up for the highest ratings. Allowing Terry to get immunity to the final two is too much of a slam dunk and lower ratings.

They (the producers) probably have several challenges lined up, and they use the one they believe will create the best TV.

It's possible but I think they tend to plan ahead with a variety of challenges that test different skills, thus not allowing someone with just one skill set to dominate. Terry is doing so well because he's smart and physical.

Please don't post any finale results here until Monday morning. the West Coast gets it on a delay and we don't want to spoil the results for anyone

Okay, I'm pretty satisfied with the outcome. All those betting people lost their money. She wouldn't have won no matter who she picked to sit beside her.

For some reason I was strongly inspired to apply for the show after last night. I have to figure out my angle

Have to admit, I'm disatisfied by anyone other than Terry winning. Kinda lost interest after Danielle screwed him over for the umpteenth time and he was gone.

Yeah, it looks like the betters were wrong. The final immunity challange was obviously designed for the lightest person to win which favored Danielle. Like I said before, this makes for better TV since Terry would have been a slam dunk if he had he won.

Maybe now Aras can move out of his mother's basement. :)

the betting was based on Danielle leaking the fact that she was final 2. I don't know why everyone thought she would win. No one knows who wins until the live finale

so do you think that the producers want to hear more why you'd be good at the game or why you want to play? You can only make a 3 minute video, so time is of the essence. I think I would be better off saying why I want to play. The written application has many questions pertaining to HOW you want to play.

I wanted Terry to win but Aras is a nice substitute. At least boobies didn't win.

I was dissapointed, yet not very suprised, that Danielle screwed Terry yet again. Did it look like she was sulking during the entire reunion episode, even before the winner was announced?

I hope she goes into Playboy, Even though i'm glad she didnt win I still think she is uber hot.

I missed the end of the finale, did they say where the next Survivor is going to be or when it starts??

it will be this Fall in the Cook Islands. I believe they aer in the sea between Australia and New Zealand?

In the Cook Islands in the South Pacific, and I think they said in the Fall. I didn't hear a specific date.


I knew Cerie couldn't do a fire well enough to win.
I'm glad she won the car, though. She's a good person and she deserved it, especially for having to see Shane's chapped nuts. :D

edit: D'oh!
Dang Derwood beat me by tha-a-at much!
I'm a slow typer.
(yeah, that's the ticket)

I'm pretty sure the appliations for this next round of Survivor were due in February... I think you'll have to wait until the next casting call. If I'm wrong, please hook me up with a link, because I've decided to apply as well.

the applications for Survivor 14 are due mid-June

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor_application/

huh... that's weird... you're absolutely right, when downloading the application form it gives correct info, but on that same page it says for eligibility rules:

Thanks for straightening me out! They must have just not updated all the information yet.

They should be ready to start filming 13 right now, I think they usually start around the same time the current one ends. TFP in the house for survivor!! that would be really neat.

Im glad Danielle didnt win

Did she win a car too? I thought only Terry won the car.

They did an "america votes" kind of most popular vote kind of thing and she won, thus winning the car

Survivor 13 tapes this June/July and 14 tapes October/November

Im really disappointed the exile island immunity idol didnt come into play at all, it was a good idea

they said they are doing exile island again in Survivor 13

fantastic!!!!!

so I think I"m going to go with the "stay at home dad wanting to help support his family" angle on my audition tape. Thoughts?

I honestly think that will have been tried a thousand times...they will prob wonder what you're gonna do with your kid if you're on the show

Ah! Didn't see the Reunion show.

lol I didnt get to see it either, I read the recap here

http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi...155.art&page=1

they've heard everything a thousand times. I'm just guessing they want a good human story more than a "look how strong I am, blah blah" type thing. I can't imagine there is anything they haven't seen in those tapes.

Do your audition tape in a full on Strongbad outfit complete with accent, and tell them that they can stop searching because you are the most awesomly awesome contestant they could conceive, but you'll only go if they change the motto to "Outwit, Outlast, OutCheat". And tell them if they don't pick you, they will have to face the wrath of Trogdor. :)

You could go with the theatre angle - They haven't had many contestants who work in the arts before. On the other hand, I don't know if the producers would find it interesting or not "homespun" enough

Mostly you'll need ripped abs. :D

i think a simple "my wife has sacrificed a lot for my career, my schooling, and now to let me stay with the kids, and I want to give back in a big way" is how I'll go. The chances of getting picked are so slim that I'm not going to sweat it too much

Good luck, Derwood. :thumbsup:

Btw, are you the same Derwood on Fark?

yes, yes i am

Get yourself an agent. How do you think all of those beautiful people get on there?

And looking good in a bikini is an added bonus. Do you look good in a bikini?

I would make a demo tape of how fast you can untie knots. Then I would do a cut scene of you hanging upside down by a burning rope while you undo a combination lock that has a fire extinguisher in it. The camera angle could make it look like you are a thousand feet in the air, but when you are finished you could pan out and show a matress underneath you.

Then the gross food challenge could be "Eat what Daddy made for Supper". Make it look really bad. Like crack an egg over the bacon, then stir in some hashbrowns and pour ketchup over the whole thing.

Then you could do a balancing thing where it shows that you could stand on a tree stump or something.

Then you could do the "How fast can we clean up the toys before mommy gets home?" and get your kids to help out. Run circles around them, and when you are done, get in their face and yell out "INDIVIDUAL IMMUNITY!"

This would be much funnier if the kid was like 3 years old or something.

or you could eat one of those new KFC things with the mashed potatoes, popcorn chicken, corn and gravy all mixed together with shredded cheese on top. :hmm:

so as not to be completely off-topic in this thread, i felt terry deserved to win the most because of all the immunity challenge wins when he had to have them. too bad he didn't pull off one more...

I actually thought (many seasons back) of making the audtion tape be a mock tribal council with me and the dog being in the final two and my two kids plus some stuffed animals being the jury. Probably too hard to pull off

you would, of course, lose to the dog. :) i think that would be a funny audition tape.