and what's with that pic anyway?

Superman does not POSE!!! i cry outrage!!!

Whaddaya call this!?
:)
http://www.kualosw.com/eevyl/files/superman.jpg

That's all natural baby.

Strutting

There's a differences between posing and strutting ;)

I CALL IT OUTRAGE!!!! NEVER WILL SUPERMAN BE REDEEMED IN MY EYES!!! NEVER!!!

but i will still see the movie. just in case.

Superman
 

I'm with Mr. Deflok on this one. After reading Kingdom Come by Alex Ross and Mark Waid, not many can epitomize Superman and Chris Reeve was the closest so far to try.

Ethan.

i dont like the guy. he looks small. his neck is skinny. his face is bony. he has no muscle. why doesnt the media ever use people that look like the characters?

definitely not liking that. As someone previously stated, that looks very "sitcom"ish rather than movie material.

They could have done better I think.

To go out on a limb here, maybe we should wait and see what his performance is like? I mean... to be honest, his costume, his pose and all of that can really go hang, as long as he acts the part well enough to make me believe he's Kal-El.

However...

I think a lot of the problem with that pic is he seems to have a very ordinary-Joe stature. Like, a comic book pose to me is feet planted apart, shoulders back, chest thrust out, fists riveted to hips, a pose of poise to suit a man of steel. That would have made a huge difference. If he's unable to get something like a pose right, what chance has he got of nailing the nuance?

I've been reading a bit about the movie now on www.bluetights.net and I'm really looking forward to it. While I agree that this version of Superman doesn't look like a muscle-bound comic book version of Superman, the "look" of the character isn't as important to me as the ability to act the part. I am a huge fan of Smallville, not because of the look of the character, but because of Tom Welling's ability to bring the confusion and turmoil of the character to life.

i think the superman looks kinda puny, and the S is too small, also that picture is weird, but im jus stating stuff already said, but that one photoshopped pic rocked, if onyl u could change the actor lol

There is someone that I think would have been perfect for the role. He's big and muscular, has the right square jawed look, the right voice, and the presense, and is about the right age given that they're continuing on from the Richard Donner films. If I ran the world, Patrick Warburton would long ago have been playing Superman.

Still, Bryan Singer has a good track record, and Kevin Spacey as Lex looks great and is an inspired choice for a creepy evil genius, so I'll be there with bells on. Hell, I'd be there if it stared Paul Reubens and was directed by Joel Shumacher.

Gilda

Warburton would be great, very Alex Ross-ish but I'd find it hard to take him seriously due to his super-comicness.

I don't know...... Its gonna be hard to fill reeves shoes. I don't know if I can get into it. I'll see it when it comes out, but I'll be pretty skeptical about it. :hmm:

He needs a roll of quarters in his tights...and
I like the red, the maroon just isn't distinctive enough.

I see Patrick Warburton as more of a Captain Marvel than a Superman. They've both got that constant squinting thing going on.

I've been watching the 'making of' videos that Singer has been putting up (thanks for the link, by the way :thumbsup: ) and I have to say, Singer is really doing a bang up job.

I mean, I haven't seen the suit in action (or the actor for that matter), but it looks like it might turn out to be pretty good.

Didn't Warburton do the voice for Superman in all those Jerry Seinfeld skits?

You're welcome for the link. That's one of the reasons that I revived this thread. I wasn't too sure I was going to like the movie until I started watching some of his journals, and I'm starting to get a good feeling about it now. I encourage others to take a look and see what you think.

Footage from the movie.
 

For those of you who want to see some of what the film looks like; but not be too spoiled.

This is a fan made teaser promo for Superman Returns. The official teaser isn't suppose to hit theaters until sometime in November.

http://www.supermanimagery.com/SRmovies/Superman_Returns_Teaser_Trailer.mov

Copy and Paste; because the link doesn't seem to work for some odd reason.

New Pic . . . . few days old.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Se...ide.hlarge.jpg


Also, possible spoilers in the video . . .
Taken from Singer's videos and made as a teaser

The Tick as Superman??? That'd be too hilarious!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/wbmo...teaser_500.asx

Direct link to a teaser.

Neat teaser... though I don't think I've ever seen the Superman as God angle played quite so heavily...

I hope not... Christopher didn't need any CG, he was all Superman!

But really what CG would they really need besides flying and heat vision?

The only thing I can think of is bright red is really hard to film right.

Trailer 2 is up. It is a lot less vague - and extreemly entertaining - so please enjoy.

i liked the trailer a lot. it's made me a *lot* less fearful of it being really bad.

and kevin spacey seems to play the perfect lex luthor.

Where Batman has a terrible problem with continunity, Superman seems to be able to stand on it's own. Theme music by John Williams, storyline picking up where Christopher Reeves left off, and a very talented cast = happy Willravel.

slight fanboy rant here...

I just read an article in the latest issue of Southwest Airline's Spirit magazine while I was flying this weekend, titled "Hero Worship," talking about the different incarnations and interpretations Superman has gone through. It's a good read, and I'd link to it, but it doesn't appear to be available online.

Anyway, towards the end of the article, the author has a few words with Bryan Singer regarding the cliched question of "Who's the real person: Superman or Clark Kent?"

A while back, I remember seeing a video where this same question was posed to Singer during some convention, at which point he quickly gave "Superman" as the answer. Which always irked me. Mainly because the question itself is flawed: there's more than two personalities to consider. The character of Superman is wholly different from Clark the reporter, who is wholly seperate from the Clark raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent on a farm in Smallville. And there may arguably be more, when you consider his Kryptonian origins as Kal-El...

As far as I'm concerned, it's the Clark on the farm that's the "true" personality. It's the one that isn't a guise serving some purpose. I guess I've taken this notion for granted through my experiences with the story of Superman, so I was a bit taken aback when Singer gave the simple answer as Superman being the real personality.

Anyway, back to the article: as Singer was giving his answer this time to the author of the article, he stopped himself. In midsentence he seemed to come to the realization that, indeed, it is the Clark Kent we see on the farm who embodies the real personality. I'd quote what he says exactly, but I can't find the article online.

I just find it frustrating that Singer came upon this too late. He's a great director, and I wish he had a chance to make the movie with this idea in mind. This won't ruin the movie or anything, but reading his quote here made me realize how close we might have been to a more interesting (in my opinion, at least) portrayal of the character. Hopefully the interpretation he presents is still enjoyable, so we'll see.

All right, just some thoughts that have been floating in my head since I read the article. This seemed like an appropriate place to get it out. :)

I think you are looking at that question the wrong way. There are only two personalities to consider at the current time, Superman and Clark Kent. Just as all of us grow up and use our experiences in life to become the people we are today, Clark Kent grew up to become Superman, using all of his life experience to decide that is who he wanted, and needed, to be. The current Clark Kent is a pure guise, and has very little of what is actually his true personality. In short, Superman is the natural evolution of the young Clark Kent, who leaned to be heroic and caring from his adotped family, and also the necessity of the alter ego to hide he and his loved ones from those who would harm them.

I think the new superman fit quite nicely and I can't wait to be able to see it, I have been waiting for years now, wondering wen te hell they were going to redo it with the nice fx we have those day...

I have seen the trailer when I saw Poseidon (which was crap in my opinion) and it made me want to see it even more... Look like it's going to be amazing...

But do you really think that the natural progression from Clark Kent the farmhand is a god flying around the universe in blue tights and a red cape? That doesn't follow for me. I think Clark decided that the disguise of Superman was needed to allow as much separation from his true self (the farmboy) and the superhero as he could possibly create. The costume is used as a distraction.

I think it's become impossible for him to be that farmboy anymore, so we might only see him express that side of him, inwardly, as he's in costume. But I think there's still a distinction between the hero and the man.

Well consider which disguise covers his face.

I am pumped for this movie. Consider this: Singer has decided to do a sequel to Superman II, thereby negating any expectation of an amazing new origin story. The problem with so many new superhero films is "getting it right." The 80s films (I and II anyway) already got it right, so basically Singer is not fixing what ain't broke.

To put it crudely, he's lowered our expectations. That way it'll be easy to smash them out of the park if A) Spacey is spot on, B) Routh treads a fine line between consistency with Reeve's interpretation and caricature and C) the FX are great. How can he screw it up?

I am afriad I havent been sold on this one. In my heart Mr. Reeve will never be replaced as superman. I dont think I will even be ablt to purchace the DVD edition. Even if they were going for a younger superman look... I feel they have failed.
Please ignore the ramblings of the crazy woman behind the keyboard.

Well look at it this way: George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton, and Pierce Brosnan never really replaced Sean Connery...but there were several good Bond films made after Sean retired from the role. Goldeneye is one of my favorite movies. This Brandon Routh probably can't replace Chris Reeve in most peoples minds (most people over 20 or so, at least), but he could do a good job. I'm just glad they didn't cast Nicolas Cage.

Just as a fun little aside....I went to High School with the new superman :)

We'll just have to agree to disagree I suppose. I personally think that every experience he had as the boy Clark Kent, every role model that was involved in his life at the time, is what shaped into Superman. Being the older Kent, he is bumbling, ackward, and cowardly to a point. But as Superman, he is courageous, caring, dependable, and confident, all of which are traits instilled in him while growing up on the farm with his foster family. His oft confident persona, which might seem a little like detachment at times, is just a natural expression of his acceptence of his powers and the role he has decided to take on in society, not a mask to hide his long outgrown boyish insecurities.

I say give the guy (Brandon Routh) a chance. Christian Bale (IMHO) played an excellent Batman, better than the ones that preceded him. Surely, the Batman movies, prior to Batman Begins, don't share the same fanboy mythology as Superman and certainly didn't have one consistent actor that sort of galvanize the series, but the fact remains that just like people are presumed innocent (in the court of law), let us presume (in the court of public opinion) that this guy can act. If he messes it up, I have the torches and pitchforks waiting. Still, let us not forget, Christopher Reeve had to start somewhere too.

Christopher Reeve was basically an unknown when he donned the red cape for the first time. He had a few TV roles under his belt (not unlike Brandon Routh), and had acted in one movie, Gray Lady Down, in which he only played a small role (not leading at all). Brandon Routh has just as much of a cnance to make this hero great as Christopher Reeve.