Yeah, no kidding.

He had no qualms shooting that guy in the leg. Over at CTU they hardly flinched to stick that thing on the Defense Secretary's son and taser Sarah, but they suddenly see the need to go the sympathetic route with Navi (Is that her name?) and Behrooz.

So many, many things that were bad in that episode. So many, many things that had me rolling my eyes back into my head. Why take the kid's mom to the hospital in the first place? She was safe and secure at the hotel. Why risk another sniper attack (I know, plausability, but the sniper attack at the helicopter wasn't all that plausable either, eh?)? For that matter, once things spiraled out of control and the father took his son hostage, why drive her down there? Why not cart her ass back to CTU and introduce her to the 'Taser Guy'?

Jack rolling off the car relatively unharmed was almost believable in comparison.

Oh, so weak the show this week was. I hope they bring it back up to par with next week's episode.

And that sub-plot with Edgar was just....so....horrible.....

I loved weeks show one of my favs. The thing that made it from being perfect was the Edgar thing I wish they would just find some way to kill him off. I don't see what role he plays other than being trampled by everyone else.

Another weak transition episode last night.

Too bad Baroos capped is old man, tho I doubt he would have given up much information even with Driscoll's "tazer to the neck technique."

...and you just knew that Audrey's ex-husband was the source of all this trouble.

missed half the show, (hubby wanted to watch an Indian movie on the Women's network) what is the deal with Audrey's ex?

Spoiler:
Dina (crazy Mom) lead Jack and Tony to a house where the train bombing and kidnapping were planned. The bldg is owned by a company that he (Paul?) is the CFO for.

So Audrey went to his hotel to try and keep him from leaving the county. The epsode ended with Jack bursting into the hotel room and shoving a gun in Paul's face.

So...angry...can't type...how angry I am. My power went out at 8 last night and didn't come back until 10:30. So yeah, I missed 24. I read a recap on their web site but it's just not the same! Grr...

Thanks! it didn't sond like a great ending. Usually somebody gets killed. In season 1, it was almost always a woman. We had bets on it.

Oh that is horrible. I was gonna tape it since I didn't think I would be home, but we got home early so I turned the tape off. I could've sent it to you!

And I don't care if people think it was lousy. I still think a lousy episode of 24 is so much better than a good episode of almost anything else on TV.

Sorry you missed it. Someone's gotta have a tape for this man!

I'm sure there are *other* ways to *acquire* it. :)

Oh, to hell with it, btefnets.org has it available. It's bit torrent and usually pretty fast.

Last nights episode was sub par, but certainly wasn't horrible.

At least Sarah coming back to work wasn't screwed up. She's just looking out for number one and that, at least, is a lot more believable than the 'come help us win one for the country.'

The only real problem I had was the Marianne thing. I understand they had to get her out of the building, but come on, something a bit more plausible than 'it's thumbprint protected.' Why not just send a team to bring the computer back? For that matter, why not just cut off the dead guys thumb and talk to Marianne over the phone? Better yet, why not cut off Marianne's thumb, you know, just for fun?

Why did that creepy white guy come with them to kill Marianne? He must have enormous faith in those two guys to put himself in harms way to grab a single CTU agent.

And finally....Oh Paul, Paul, Paul. You had to piss off Jack. The man who single handedly saved the Sec'y of Defense and his daughter, shot a suspect for information, tackled a car and got right back up to slide three stories down a laundry chute to take on a cornered terrorist. I just don't think you know who you're messing with. That little tap he gave you is small potatoes, son. Small potatoes. :o

You called it. We'll just have to tune in next week to see exactly how much harder he makes it for Jack.

Thanks Hambone and Guthmund. My friend TiVo'd it so I got a chance to watch it. Ha ha, take THAT you stupid power outage!

Awesome. :thumbsup:

PISTOL WHIPPED, BITCH!

Why haven't I found this thread sooner?
 

I expected more from Jack. Taking out Paul like that seems a little unprofessional. I though he was gonna cuff him to a chair BEFORE pistol whipping the guy. And he better know something. If he's inocent, Audury's gonna be pissed.

I was dissapointed that Behrooz shot his dad. This whole season, we've seen Behrooz be this incredibly courageous kid standing up against his dad... then he unneccesarily shoots his dad in the back. It was the first cowardly thing he's done, and I wish he hadn't.

I kinda thought that too.. in fact it was kinda like Charlie and Ethan on Lost, no it was EXACTLY like that. Ok, I will give him the benefit of the doubt seeing as he was a 16 or 17 year old whose dad was just holding a gun to his head.. or did some loyal part of him want to save his father from the humiliation of capture?

As for Jack Pistol-whipping Paul, part of that was Jack showing how serious he is, and part was him being pissed at a man putting his loved one in danger yet again. He's gotta be getting tired of that. Soooo many kidnappings and betrayals for the man we call Jack.

Well, in the 24 tradition, always kill the best lead. Which is too bad. I enjoy the idea of a terrorist family. Discussing the train robbery over breakfast is something to remember. I was hoping for a father and son shoot-out with Jack. But after Barooz killed a guy with a blunt object, that hope faded.

And when will Nina make her yearly apperance?

Once the fairy dust kicks in and she rises from her grave? Um... she's dead. Did you miss last season?

And I wasn't surprised that they killed off Behrooz's dad, I was pretty sure his number was up very soon in the standard 24 way of things. I just didn't like the way it happened... it kinda compromised Behrooz's character to kill his dad in cold blood.

I though I missed an episode. Who else died on that hour? And where's Palmer now? There are alot of charaters who are MIA from last season.

You sure you only missed one episode? There were many other deaths, happenings, and revelations in every other episode of Season 3 which you don't seem to know about.

Spoiler: Sherry's Dead. Millican and Wife are Dead. Gael's Dead. That guy who broke the glass at the hotel? Dead. Claudia? Dead. Hector and Ramon Salazar? Dead. Michael Amador? Dead. Nina's Dead. Very Dead. Tony got shot in the neck. Michelle got kidnapped. Chase got his hand cut off. Palmer decided not to run for office again. Jack was a badass.

Anything else you missed?

whats the most outrageous scene so far this season.
i'd have to say that Tony saving Jack and Audrey (aka Beaver girl). how'd Tony get there in under 10min

I love this fucking show.

What an amazing fucking episode. Just plain wow. More later when I can think.

It's about time they used Curtis! And he kicked some ass too. Taking those two guys out at the begining was awesome. I hope they keep having him in the field; he's a better fit there than as a desk guy.

My only complaint I think would be that they again tortured someone (you might even say they tortured Dina...). It's getting a bit tiresome.

Other than that, a good episode.

This one was a lot better than the previous two. Curtis and Jack covering each other going up the stairwell was awesome, I thought.

A truely great episode last night, as I said before, the last 2 weeks were pretty weak but I could see they were building up to something.

I like how Paul kept giving Jack dirty looks AFTER he tortured him. Jeez man, the guy is willing to put a power cord to your head and you think you can stare him down with a mean look? I still think Paul is dirtier than he looks... I still say he knew that Sec.Heller and Audrey were going to be at the kid's house and that's how the terrorists knew where to grab them.

Curtis was great... saw that coming a long way off, he's way too "big, black and mean" looking to stay in the office.

I think there's more dirt to Paul as well. on the whole, the episode was a bit lame compared to the beginning of the show. Edgar saved the day in the end. yay.

Or did he? now that would be a good story.

Not another traitor! At least last season CTU had a double agent on their side. I do like the torturer running gag we have going this season. Take that Paul! Is he (the actor) British?

I don't think he saved the day. Sure he stopped the meltdowns, but once they mentioned there were other "cells" that reported to the same lead guy, I started to assume there was something else in the works.

I wonder if they will roll in a whole new cast of terrorists, or just use the main bad guy to go off of now?

You're right, he didn't save the day... he saved the Hour. This hour has been saved for you by Edgar.. :D

the 'something else' must be in the works. Either the reactor ploy was a 'feint within a feint' or the different cells are operating on a similar schedule, with different targets. some others may be hacking financial systems, while others may be planting dirty bombs ...

Anyone know where I can find a copy of last nights show online? I missed it and the vcr didn't work for me!!

any help?

I mentioned this in the 'Lost' thread and didn't get slapped, so, I'll mention it here as well.

If you have a bit torrent client, the best place to catch up on television shows is Btefnet.org
I'm on crappy cable with no DVR and don't like having to set the VCR, if it works right, to record shows, so, I use it quite a bit when I miss a show.


As for the thread...

Last night's show was pretty good. It just goes to show you that if you want plain, no nonsense torture, you need Jack Bauer to do the job. No screwing around, no pleading. He just asked him what he knew and calmly explained the consequences.

I think I have a man-crush on Jack :)

They've still got over half a season to go, right? There's no way this can be the end of the threat. There has to be more other than Jack chasing Marwan (or whatever his name is) down to kill him. I don't think they'll leave it at that, but you never know.

Driscoll's daughter killing herself? I hate to say it, but I'm glad that storyline's about wrapped up. It was going nowhere and now it seems it's almost at the end.

Yeah. I'm wondering what's going to happen next considering that they still have a day left. I also agree on the Driscoll storyline, it seemed to slow down the show.

Jack is my hero. I was so thrilled to see Tony Almeida back. I was going crazy. I miss Chloe though (Driscoll is so stupid, yet a milf according to many of my friends).

Anyways, 24 on tonight at 9 P.M. DON'T MISS IT!

I think this show is better than any other show. I used to be addict of the OC, but then i realized the 24 is reality because it has smart people on it. The OC just shows ditzy people tangled in their love triangles.

There's nothing wrong with ditzy people or love triangles. I enjoyed wacthing "That '70's Show" just before "24" comes on in seasons past. The balance between light-hearted hijinks and hard-boiled drama.

The "OC" last seasons had the "2 hot babes want me" triangle with Seth, Ana, and Summer. "24" has the "will she divorce that loser for me?" triangle with Jack, Audry, and Paul. Now that Audry believes that Paul is inocent or that someone may be using him, she seems closer to him. Can Jack lose her to this candy-ass?

Jack needs a sniper on his side >:->

Jack should just take down Paul. Audrey looks soooooooooooo good. Jack has saved the world 3 times, this one will be his fourth. I think this is a very good way to get women.

Yeah, so long as they down get shot, kidnapped, arrested, kidnapped, raped, kidnapped, watch husband tortured, kidnapped...

Oh, and those terrorist love kidnapping the heros loved ones.

Hmmmm.. a little bit of an uneventful episode but still good. I totally knew who the new director of CTU was gonna be when they said "she". Quite an interesting twist.

yeah, same here. yet, this wasn't much of an exciting one. i wish chloe and balmer would come back.

umm...err....*sigh*

I don't want to be an ass about details. But....

Its Palmer. With a P

No comments on this week's episode yet? guess I'll give my two cents.

I liked this episode overall. I liked the idea of the EMP leading to Jack taking part in urban warfare in the middle of a city being looted. Seeing Jack in action like that is definately worth the price of admission. But parts of the situation were definately contrived, though... the guys running the ammo shop got a tad too preachy, and those commandos seemed like they shouldn't have gotten their asses handed to them so easily.

But that knife in the back of the neck makes up for a lot of it. Holy shit that was wicked.

I also liked the interactions between Tony and Michelle. It seemed honest and believable. They did a good job of showing how they were both still vulnerable for one another, but the show was pretty subtle about it, for the most part. I was afraid they'd go the soap opera route, but they didn't.

I gotta agree with the knife to the back of the neck as the offical "OMFG" moment of the hour, here's why:


Usually in a show or movie, when the head bad guy is shown, you automatically think to yourself "Ok there's going to be some showdown between him and the good guy at the end." So when they repeatidly focused on the head mercenary I thought there would be some kind of end-of-the-hour brawl between jack and the mercenary dude that was somehow facilitated through both of them losing their weapons or being out of ammo etc etc...

But no, Jack just sneaks up behind him and and SCHLINK! It was so anti-climatic that it was awesome. It's like the market scene in Indiana Jones where the big dude with the huge sword starts twirling it around in front of Indiana..... and Indiana just takes out his pistol and shoots him.

Pure gold.

I thought it was a pretty good episode overall. I loved the sporting goods warfare scene. The guys running the store were obviously throw in there to show that not all Muslims are terrorists. I thought it was done pretty good for the most part but it seemed odd to have Jack just throw out all that info. so quickly.

Jack eats! (hoax?)
 

Is this a joke? It's a little early for April Fools, but here's the link: http://www.bbspot.com/News/2005/03/24_hamburger.html
Apprently, next episode features Jack, eating, a burger. And for once in the entire series of 24, Jack also goes to...

(Drum roll please)

The restroom.

So what's the threat going to be in act 3? Based on the ending and some foreshadowing from earlier--the line about keeping the President in the air--I'm thinking maybe we have another Presidential assassanation attempt in the works. This President seems to be more of a hawk than Palmer was, and may be seen as a threat.

That was great episode! The firefight was pretty sweet and the knife to the back of the neck was awesome!

Okay, so who thinks Paul is going to die? My prediction: Paul will survive, Audrey will go back to Paul and Jack will go back to his old job since he will no longer have a reason to be a suit.

"Some people are more comfortable in hell"

Sarah got escorted out! Was anyone else happy about that? Michelle don't mess around, even if you did get a TAZER TO THE NECK!!! haha

So now the president is the main goal. Who knows how they're going to pull off an attack on Air Force One.

I think we got some good stuff coming our way...

I'm thinking that there's going to be a hijack of Air Force one or something to that effect. Not sure how just yet as the president hasn't been on land since the start of the show yet has he? But they did say something about the presidents schedule so who knows.

hehe...read the very last line on that page.

BBspot rules.

Air Force One, never thought of that. Sounds awesome. I thought the season started out pretty slow. Not the actual show, but i didnt like the cast. I think its turned out great though. I was glad to see Driscal and her annoying daughter go. Edgar has turned into one of my favorites, i didnt really like him at first. A surprise to myself i was kinda upset to see Chloe leave. And bringing back Tony and Michelle was probably the best thing so far. Curtis who i didnt like in the beginning has turned out good also. Now we just need Elisha Cuthbert to come back and put the cherry on top. I just hope she doesnt get kidnapped again.

So i think the season has turned out great, even though i had complaints about the cast in the beginning. I cant wait to see whats going on with the Pres. Oh yeah, the main terrorist guy is an awesome casting job. I dont know his name but he was the mummy in the Brandon Frasier movie.

His name is Arnold Vosloo (I had to look it up). I remember him from Veritas: The Quest." It wasn't all that interesting, but he played the boss man's badass well enough for me to place the face.

I completely agree with stonegrody. Paul isn't going to die. Audrey is going to go back to him and Jack is going to be so pissed off he single handedly takes out all the terrorist cells in the greater Los Angeles area and saves the President all with his trusty PDA. Maybe a gun or two. He won't need them, but maybe.

The last episode was pretty good. The Tony/Michelle thing was handled well and they kicked out Sarah, who I didn't really like.

That whole conversation between Jack and the brothers was horrible and forced. The whole 'it's our country too' shit sounded like a last minute addendum to appease the outcry over the arab terrorist storyline. Not to mention it was unbelievable. Face trained commandos in combat, in the dark, with no hope of rescue and likely die or run your ass off and live to rebuild another day? I wonder what the 'vast majority' would do?

O man i was looking for a 24 thread hooray!!

10 Bucks says Michelle Falls for Tony hehe!

Tony's Da Pimp!

I gotta agree with Almeida being a straight-up PIMP.

Did you notice the hickey looking thing the taser left? This show does little things like that that continue to impress me.

yea, after watching the special features disc from season 2, i began to really notice how close they are to the detail, just on little things like that.. thats why ive watched them all like 5 times!

Major 24 Nerd Right here!

This is your 24, 1 Hour Warning! :)

bleh, I had some problems with this episode... overall, it was too predictable. From the first 10 minutes, you knew how the rest of the episode was going to play out. Is Jack going to convince Dina to help him go undercover? Of course. Are they going to find Marwan? Yep. Will their cover be blown? You betchya.

What kind of cover story was that, anyway? No one takes Jack Bauer hostage. Everyone knows no one takes Jack Bauer hostage. Part of me wonders if Jack went into it knowing that it was a horrible cover, and was in effect sacrificing Dina. It's possible, but I wouldn't have thought Dina to be that stupid. (okay, I take that back. He's been taken hostage before... but not by some pesky woman with a bullet wound! :p )

There were some major time discrepancies too. I'm usually very forgiving, but... Chloe getting dressed and showing up at CTU over a commercial break was a bit much. Same with Jack and Dina getting to that professor's house, they had that go by a bit too fast.

The best parts of 24 are when you can see about 10 different scenarios being plausible, and the show keeps you guessing all the way. Seems like the show has been lacking in that department over the last handful of episodes. I remember back in last season being on the edge of my seat, wondering how the Salazar storyline was going to pan out. I got a similar feeling for the Araz family's storyline too... maybe it's the curse of season's first half.

Well, on the positive side of things, I'm curious about what that military dude is up to, exactly. Definitely has something to do with a jet, I guess, and presumably with Air Force One. Hm... can Jack fly a fighter jet? Oh, who am I kidding, there is nothing Jack can't do.

All right, I'm done. I can be a bit long winded. Everybody's a critic! :)

I don't care how believable the episode was personally. All I know is Jack stabbed himself in the gut! Awesome.

:thumbsup:

Um, I'm still confused about where the guy was hiding in the car. He wasin't in the back sear or in the trunk--those were checked. Then he shows up through the rear seat access to the trunk. Um, that would mean he was in the trunk in the first place, which we clearly saw was empty.

Otherwise, good episode. I knew what was going to happen in the tunnel, but was impressed with how quickly the CTU people reacted when things went wrong.

Jack stabbing himself was pretty damn hardcore... but I also felt that the show was just kinda showing off, showing us that they can have Jack do pretty much anything.

And I was thinking the same thing about the dude in the car. Maybe he was shifting back and forth between the trunk and the back seat, avoiding the officers who were inspecting the car? ... or maybe it's just one of those magic cars clowns use in the circus. you never know.

Yea, this episode was pretty predictable. I pretty much knew that the gun wasnt loaded, i just didnt know if she would shot jack or marwon, like how chase actually pulled the trigger on jack last season. I guess Jack had to be taken in by the bad guys at one point or another. I wonder what will happen with the sniper situation next week.

I think they altered the trunk. Put a false panel between the truck you could see and the back seat and the guy was wedged in between there. That's what would make sense to me at least.

This season I've learned to ignore the time discrepancies. I have to, otherwise the show is unwatchable.

Most of this season has been painfully predicatable but still entertaining.

Well, stabbing himself is a walk in the park for Jack. He was tortured to death in Season 2 and survived that, so a little knife in the intestines is like a Sunday at the spa in comparison.

I just started watching 24. Yikes, I think I missed a lot. I'm going to go rent season 1 from blockbuster (probably 16 hours+ of the show). When I'm done, can someone fill me in on Seasn 2, 3, and the most part of 4?

possible spoiler? read on:
Spoiler: Who here thinks that the Mom (her name slips my mind,) is actually the mastermind behind all this? My reasons for this are two fold: One, she keeps popping up time and time again and is critical to the storyline. Two, we didn't actually see her get shot. All we saw was her get tossed into a room and then shots fired into that room. Maybe I'm stretching it a little, but I dunno.... ;)

discuss?

cartmen,

Anything's possible :) That would be a nice twist with all the complaints about it being so predictable flying around.

I kinda doubt it, but what do I know ;)

hm, I think we can discuss this sans-spoiler tags, right? unless someone has inside info, I think we're good.

It crossed my mind that Dina might not have been killed. There's the cardinal rule, that if there's no body shown, then there's no body TO show. It would be pretty wicked if she turned out to be the head honcho of all the attacks going on, too. It would help to explain why she went on with Jack's plan, which seemed doomed from the start.

I have a feeling Dina is gonna pull a 'Jack Bauer' and just come to rescue and save to day!

I don't think Dina is the head honcho. If that was the case, her role in the entire first half of this season wouldn't make any sense. Her husband seemed far more involved than she was and Marwan was trying to get him to kill her and Behroos. Not to say that she actually got killed because I wouldn't be surprised if she were still alive, but I doubt she has a bigger role than what we've seen.

Now, what I don't get is why they want to swap Jack for Behroos in the next episode. That does bring up a lot of questions. Maybe Dina plays a bigger role after all...

Damn this show. At least they're not taking a huge break like last season.

grrr.... is that something that they revealed in the preview for next week? i make a point never to watch 'em, 'cause they give stuff like that away.

and if an ad for 24 comes, i change the channel instantly. or cover my ears and start making noises... seriously. :D i'm not the only one who does this.... right?

Well i get so sad that I have to wait a week, I dl the episodes and watch them again :)
hehe

Hell no! My whole fucking house does that. We're obsessed with making sure we know nothing at all going on in the next episode.

Another one who likes to come to each episode fresh. I'm like this about every form of entertainment. I want to know enough to decide whether I'm going to watch / read it, and nothing more.

With 24 and Lost, all I want to know is whether it's a new episode, and when is it on? Beyond that, I want to know nothing until it happens. I studiously avoid commericials. Fortunately, ABC and Fox aren't nearly as bad as NBC when it comes to spoilers in commercials. I remember when Friends was at it's peak and NBC would put every important plot point in every bloody commercial and run them in every bloody show. There was no way to avoid them. Ah, 24 isn't nearly as bad, perhaps because I don't watch much Fox other than this show and The Simpsons.

didn't dina die? she got shot after jack was being taken away because she lied to habib.

thats what it seems like, but you know in 24 things arent always what they seem

ahahahaha :lol:

This is your weekly 24 "Hour To Showtime" Warning!

Another good one last night. I was actually expecting Jack to get shot last night. I would not be at all surprised to see him get killed this season.

From what I understand '24' will not be back for a 5th season, at least not in its current incarrnation, so killing Jack wouldn't be a big stretch.

I love how the "Did Dina really die?" question got answered in like the first 5 minutes :)

I really liked this episode. I really wonder what they are planning to do with that plane...

I'm thinking the plane is going to be used for a suicide run at Airforce One, or otherwise must somehow be connected to what I'm assuming is a set up for an attempt on the President.

I thought they had a contract for 6 seasons, and that there were going to be at least 6 seasons, but I could be wrong

I don't think so, I'm pretty sure he was in some sort of bomber, hes probably gonna blow something up, but you never know with this show... and thats what I love about it :)

From the preview, it seemed like they were gonna use it to blow up CTU, or is that a totally stupid idea? Im probably totally wrong, cuz that seems like a waste just to bomb CTU and wouldnt be that many casualties, as that seems like what they are trying to do.

It doesn't make sense for this super hi-tech plane to be used for a sucide run. At first I thought he was stealing a figher jet to shoot down Air Force 1, but as someone pointed out, it's clearly a bomber.... so it almost has to be a surface target.

Another reason I don't think it is going to be a sucide run is simply cause the pilot does not strike me as a zealot, rather he's just a mercenary. So with that in mind he's probably going to bomb some crowded area just before 6am (when the season ends).

Any guesses as to the target? Silicon Valley, Hollywood Hills, a Dam on a major river maybe?

The plane looked like a Stealth fighter, which has no air-to-air capabilities. Though, it was nicknamed, so I guess it could be a prototype. And since it's quite a risk to land due to the part malfunction, I assume its a suicide run.

Looks like next week they storm the terrorist hideout. Should be a good episode.

I really liked how neither the maintenance guy or his boss noticed that they guy did not belong there.

My guess is that they find the co-ordinates of the target for the stealth on a laptop on that warehouse.... right when they do... BOMBS AWAY!! Michelle and that new head honcho from division die and Tony becomes permanent boss.

OR



Chapelle is still alive and pissed off !!

Nice, I was thinking the same thing, only about President Palmer. Wouldn't it be awesome if it turned out he was the bad guy through all this? <super deep voice>"Force me to resign, will you?!"</deep voice>

I guess the episode was all right... i'm probably just being too critical. But, it just seems like they're going through the motions... Tortured someone again (Behrooz), reused plot device from last season again (the unloaded gun last week, then the hostage exchange from this week looked eerily familiar), forced drama at CTU... I'm just waiting for the show to put me on the edge of my seat again.

About the dude flying the plane... I was trying to figure out what the gist of his plan might be. I agree that he's probably not doing a suicide mission, since they alluded to him getting paid. But at the same time he didn't seem too concerned that the plane wouldn't hold up so good for landing. Maybe he's flying the plane into something and parachuting out?

I dont really like the Michelle dying part but..

Tony is da Pimp!

Has anyone else noticed they use the phrase "I can walk and chew gum at the same time" often? I think it's been used every season now.

And so the Prez is dead. I did care much for this guy. But if Palmer had been in that plane, that would have meant something.

Maybe. It's unclear from the ending exactly what happened. I rewound it, and based on the picture and Zoe's comment, it seems like one of the fighter planes was hit, and Airforce One got indirect damage from that. I deliberately didn't watch the preview, so this is just a guess, but I predict that Airforce One will be damaged and much of next week's episode will be devoted to getting her down safely and determining if the Prez is still alive.

Ya, I felt they weren't too clear on what actually happened. The prez might not be dead. Although I said the same thing about Dina.... hell, who knows, maybe they're both alive.

Also, up until the end, I was really putting my money on that the president would be saved. It was because of his son. It seemed like they introduced him for more of a reason than just to die at the end of the episode. That might have been a ploy by the writers to get me to think that, but... we'll see.

I'd have to agree that it's pretty unlikely that the president is dead. If they really had destoryed AirForce One then there would have been an explicit shot of it going down in flames. In this case it is probably just damaged and as was said earlier, they will spend next hour getting it safely to the ground.

On a seperate note. That has to be the biggest goddamn fighter jet I have ever seen. 24 really went of the rails here trying to pose a bomber as a fighter...BAH I say!

I don't like that president at all, horrible actor, in my opinion, but who knows if he is dead or not, time will tell.

My favorite part of this episode was where Jack stabbed the guy who was comming down the corridor then turned his back to him and was pressing the dead guy up against the wall until he felt it was safe to move on...then he just moves on and the guy slumps to the ground....I just thought it was cool.

I think the prez is dead. They probably introduced his son on the episode to show the human side of the prez and to make you think that he would not be killed. In classic 24 style, WRONG. They're dead.

Another thing, wtf is up with Michelle and that old Division dude??? C'mon. I'll swallow all of the discrepencies that 24 has to offer, but you expect us to believe that someone as hot as Michelle would go for that stiff?? That's just going too far! Next thing you know, Kim will come back and fall in love with Edgar! :lol:

Yeah, it looks that way. But it's a little late to humanize the stiff prez at before his finally moments.

And does Michelle have a thing for dating her bosses :)

Oh hell yea, I thought he was her uncle or something at first. Then they show Tony glaring at him... I thought I (he?) was hallucinating. Apparantly not though... well, maybe she was *so* depressed after leaving Tony, she latched on the first moving thing that came by.

Now I'm not sure what was more disturbing... Michelle and this guy getting it on, or Secretary Heller hitting on Driscoll .... *whorf*

Yeah that was awesome when Bauer knifed the guy and that evil chick who killedthe FBI agent was HOT!!! i think that's one reason why Jack suspected her, he was like "DAYM! That broad is too hot to work in the bureau!"