Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community (https://thetfp.com/tfp/)
-   Tilted Entertainment (https://thetfp.com/tfp/tilted-entertainment/)
-   -   Why do they get pretty girls to play ugly roles? (https://thetfp.com/tfp/tilted-entertainment/78404-why-do-they-get-pretty-girls-play-ugly-roles.html)

KnifeMissile 12-11-2004 03:21 PM

Why do they get pretty girls to play ugly roles?
 
I was watching Little Nicky the other day and I couldn't help but notice that the "ugly" plain girl was played by the very attractive Patricia Arquette. When I mentioned this to my friends, they brought up how there was some controversy over giving the beautiful Charlize Theron the main role of an ugly bitch in Monster.
Now, I can understand that pretty girls get more acting roles than ugly ones because we're talking about entertainment here and who wants to look at ugly girls? But we're not talking about ugly duckling roles, here. It's not enough that they get all the good roles, they must also get the ugly ones too? Is there simply no place in hollywood for ugly girls?

K-Wise 12-11-2004 03:25 PM

Hmm who's an ugly hollywood actress? (Being old and fat, or a comedian probably shouldn't count eh?)

Asta!!

jonjon42 12-11-2004 10:00 PM

yeah...I haven't seen many great character actresses known first for their skill and second for their looks (if any looks existed..). They do exist but their aren't as many as I wish.

Suave 12-11-2004 10:28 PM

Some of them are just good actors, and therefore deserve even the "ugly" roles.

CityOfAngels 12-11-2004 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suave
Some of them are just good actors, and therefore deserve even the "ugly" roles.

I agree. Charlize Theron did quite a number in Monster. That movie is still on my all-time greatest list mainly because of the great job she did in it.

Sensei 12-12-2004 12:01 AM

On a unrelated note, how do casting directors go about casting the "ugly friend/sister?" Isn't it kind of insulting to say "attractive people need not apply." I bet there are some actors who specialize in that sort of role. It sure would suck to be reminded at your job every day that you were given a sound beating with the ugly stick. Meh, it's a living I guess.

CityOfAngels 12-12-2004 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sensei
On a unrelated note, how do casting directors go about casting the "ugly friend/sister?" Isn't it kind of insulting to say "attractive people need not apply." I bet there are some actors who specialize in that sort of role. It sure would suck to be reminded at your job every day that you were given a sound beating with the ugly stick. Meh, it's a living I guess.

Heh, I always wondered that myself, especially with those parts where a character is being made fun of for being fat. I can see the auditions now. "Nope, not fat enough. Sorry, nope. No. No. Next next next...YOU! You would be PERFECT for the role of Bride of King Kong!"

brianna 12-12-2004 06:48 AM

The worst part about this trend is when the movie has to reiterate how ugly this girl is over and over. i first noticed this with minnie driver in "circle of friends" they put 20lbs on her and spent the whole movie making people tell us just how ugly she is. it's ridiculous and frankly, insulting.

mikeylips 12-12-2004 10:21 AM

Ever seen the girl who played Velma in the Scooby Doo movie? That girl is smokin' but in the movie she looks just like ugly old velma.

MPower 12-13-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Wise
Hmm who's an ugly hollywood actress? (Being old and fat, or a comedian probably shouldn't count eh?)

Asta!!


Martha Plimpton and Kyra Sedgewick come to mind.

brianna 12-13-2004 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Wise
Hmm who's an ugly hollywood actress? (Being old and fat, or a comedian probably shouldn't count eh?)

Asta!!

actually this is probably a huge part of the problem -- hollywood needs to figure out that there are a lot of talented women who do not fit the standard beauty ideal who would not only be more appropriate and believable choices for these roles but could also kick the asses of half the pretty girls in hollywood when it comes to acting chops.

alansmithee 12-13-2004 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianna
actually this is probably a huge part of the problem -- hollywood needs to figure out that there are a lot of talented women who do not fit the standard beauty ideal who would not only be more appropriate and believable choices for these roles but could also kick the asses of half the pretty girls in hollywood when it comes to acting chops.

But the problem is that Hollywood generally doesn't want more out of female roles than to be eye-candy. Me and a couple of people were discussing this awhile ago, and it seems that there has been no really good actress in the past 20 years or so. There are few who's acting ablility seems to draw people to movies.

shadowalker 12-13-2004 02:57 PM

you have to remember that "ALOT" of current hollywood actress's do not look as good as thay do in film do to in life. If thay did not have the makeup artist's, digital editors, etc etc. thay would not be where thay are any more.

Heres a nice little collection
Stars out of makeup

edit: yes i know some of the pick are old and some may be in makeup for other movies, but a lot of them are not

MexicanOnABike 12-13-2004 03:48 PM

of all the tv shows and movies i saw, i can only see one that was "ugly": mimi on the drew cary show. most of the others are decent or too old to seem pretty for me. but for guys, it doesnt seem to be a problem. theres a ton of bald, fat, or just plain ugly guys in movies! let's see some ugly chicks too!

K-Wise 12-14-2004 07:41 PM

I don't think Kyra is all THAT ugly...eh what about Helena Bonham Carter?

Asta!!

monkeydriven 12-15-2004 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Wise
I don't think Kyra is all THAT ugly...eh what about Helena Bonham Carter?

Asta!!

Juliette Lewis, Amanda Plumber...Julia Roberts and Sara Jessica Parker (now THOSE are DOGS! Sara looks like an Irish Setter)

Daoust 12-15-2004 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeylips
Ever seen the girl who played Velma in the Scooby Doo movie? That girl is smokin' but in the movie she looks just like ugly old velma.

She's on ER. I forget her name, but she actually is quite attractive. Even as Velma. I'd love to get under that skirt.

Charlatan 12-15-2004 08:51 AM

Don't blame Hollywood for this trend. This trend is brought to you by your dollars spent at the box office.

Beautiful women are drooled over and fantasized about by men and women who either want them or want to be them... This creates popularity and celebrity.

These celebrities are cast in films because it pays off. People like to go to films with celebrities in them.

Very rarely are there *truly* unattractive celebs (i.e. the few names metioned above are not all that ugly when it really comes down to it).

Viscious cycle.

K-Wise 12-16-2004 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeydriven
Juliette Lewis, Amanda Plumber...Julia Roberts and Sara Jessica Parker (now THOSE are DOGS! Sara looks like an Irish Setter)

I'd make sweet love to all of those women (cept I dunno know who Plumber is)...they all have sumfin about em.

Asta!!

roderickpsu 12-16-2004 07:27 PM

Maybe they just want to add hype to the movie by having another famous name on the playbill.

Fremen 12-16-2004 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Wise
I'd make sweet love to all of those women (cept I dunno know who Plumber is)...they all have sumfin about em.

Asta!!

Her name's Amanda Plummer, daughter of actor Christopher Plummer from the movie The Sound of Music, among other things.
She played the would-be robber named Honey Bunny in the restaurant in Pulp Fiction.
:thumbsup:

K-Wise 12-17-2004 03:50 AM

Oh okay her I know...Yeah I wouldn't do her. Ya know she's a good actress but she's not an A-List celebrity I bet...not really fair.

Asta!!

longbough 12-24-2004 09:43 AM

There's a simple reason for this trend. When a glamorous (male or female) actor gets fame they next want an Oscar. Playing a handicapped, drug-addicted or "ugly" character is usually just a shameless pitch for getting the Oscar nomination:
Remember these?
Mel Gibson in "The Man Without a Face"
Harrison Ford in "Regarding Henry"
Farrah Fawcett in "The Burning Bed"
Paul Newman in "The Verdict"
Tom Hanks in "Forest Gump"
and the list goes on...


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:54 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360