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thespian86 · 06-10-2004, 05:16 AM

how do they not stay true to it? I'm going to see it tonight...

thespian86 · 06-10-2004, 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by punkmusicfan21
how do they not stay true to it? I'm going to see it tonight...

Wow, I wish I hadn't seen it, It wasn't worth it at all. It didn't stick to the story at all and some parts they just made up. I was disapointed to say the least about how they jumped everywhere and I'm a much much MUCH bigger fan of Chris Culumbus' films. 4/10

Hedgehog · 06-10-2004, 06:47 PM

I thought it was the best of the 3 films, but not only that, I thought the screenplay was actually SUPERIOR to the book! The screenwriter did an amazing job adapting that long story to the amount of screen time he had to work with. What was left out was for the most part, trivial. And they changed the subplot of the Firebolt to happen at the very end of the story, which occurs in January....NOT the end of the school year, thereby leaving a place for the parts that were left out of the movie (the quidditch season, etc.) to occur off-screen.

Rowling said that the screenwriter had added a couple of things on his own, that coincidentally, foreshadow some things that will happen in books 6 and 7. She was very pleased, and I must agree.

Apokx · 06-11-2004, 12:05 AM

**Possible SPOILER**

I liked it alot,I would say I enjoyed it as much as the other two.
The only complaint I heard from my friends (who are generally dubious about the Harry Potter movies) was the very last part of the movie,where Harry receives a new broomstick.(and flying at the screen with a huge smile).My friend thought of it as cheezy.

I havent read the book,but Im wondering why Harry looked like some sort of stag or moose when he saw himself casting the spell?

Friends and I kind of boggled at that.

Hedgehog · 06-11-2004, 04:43 PM

If you haven't read the book, you wouldn't know about the stag.

but think on the following clues that ARE in the movie:

1. The magic map is written by Mssrs. Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs.

2. Lupin knows how to work the map when Harry gives it to him.

3. Sirius calls Pettigrew "Wormtail" in the movie.

4. Lupin says that Sirius and Peter became animagi to keep him company when he became a werewolf back in the old days. Sirius changes into a dog.

5. According to McGonagall, Sirus, Pettigrew, and Lupin were best friends with James Potter.

6. Harry's spell assumes the form of a stag.

7. Harry mistakenly thinks his dad cast the spell at first.

clockworkgreen · 06-11-2004, 06:54 PM

Chris Columbus is boring. First two were kids movies.

Loved the movie. I read the book once when it first came out, so I don't know the story down word for word. I LOVED the direction and feel of this movie. If I saw one more cookie cutter "oh, here's when this part is" and one more fucking long ass boring quidditch match that meant nothing, I was going to rush the screen.

The scene that immediately grabbed me when I knew I'd love the movie was in the kitchen at the very beginning where the camera pans back as the uncle is on his knees looking up at the sky and the cousin is watching TV and there's just silence except for the TV audio. That scene is lightyears beyond the tired filmmaking that plagued this series from the beginning as is far above the level of filmmaking than everyone was reduced to accepting before. And that makes it fantastic.

Don't care much about story changes. See exhibit A - Lord of the Rings for why it doesn't matter. I've watched it a few times now and the second time it was better than the first.

Those who liked the first two better, congrats, it doesn't take much to please you.

bltzkriegmcanon · 06-11-2004, 08:52 PM

Excellent. I couldn't agree more. There wasn't anything really holding my attention for the first 2 books or the first 2 movies. They're the kind of things critical movie watchers and critical readers "go through" because they know there's better beyond it. Azkaban was the defining book in the series, creating an entirely different chain of events that actually felt like they mattered beyond the tiny tot crap in the first 2 books. A series of events is began in Azkaban that will inevitably play out through the rest of the books, and the movies will reflect that change in both importance, tone, and needed delivery. One can only hope that Mike Newell captures this change properly, continuing what Cuaron began. Although there are some story-telling devices that Cuaron almost overuses, i.e., the circular-wipe effect, that I find almost distracting, overall, I believe that Cuaron captured the spirit of the book, despite his washing over of some details. Like clockworkgreen said,

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Don't care much about story changes.

He's right, there aren't big enough changes in the major, overall story for anyone who's read the books to get up in arms over.

In defense of Chris Columbus, he was tackling the earlier books as source material, and honestly, they were less involving and entertaining when compared to Azkaban.

Ace_O_Spades · 06-11-2004, 10:43 PM

I dont know about this movie

It was very very jumpy, and at the end of the movie I was left with a huge WTF feeling... I didn't really enjoy it... Not my favorite harry potter movie.

6/10

Eclipse26 · 06-12-2004, 10:58 PM

I thought this one was much better directed then the first two movies. But, given the producers were the same..it still had the same feel, which was nice. The kids finally felt like real kids rather than something totally outside of reality.

I liked it far better.

Kadath · 06-22-2004, 06:41 PM

I finally got around to seeing this on the IMAX giant screen (which is quite an experience, by the way) and I was pretty disappointed. Very choppy. There was too much of the book to fit into a 2 hour movie. If they had cut the divination stuff they would have had more room and would not have had to rely on rushed exposition. The book was my favorite of the first three, and the movie did not live up to my considerable expectations. I saw it with two others who had read the book and one who had not. The one who had not was not as upset, but did express confusion about various things, such as Harry's attack on Snape (which, as edited, made little sense) and was frustrated by the time-travel, which I'll admit was weak in the book.

YaWhateva · 06-22-2004, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by Apokx
**Possible SPOILER**

I havent read the book,but Im wondering why Harry looked like some sort of stag or moose when he saw himself casting the spell?

sorry if this was already answered in previous posts but in the book:

Spoiler

James was an animagi, his animal form was that of a stag or elk or something to that effect in order to help keep lupin in check while in his werewolf form. The spell Harry summoned to ward off the dementors was supposed to be that of his dad's animagus form. But they didnt seem to mention that in the movie.

that is the only problem that i had with the movie, other than that i loved this movie. It was by far better than the other two.

Xiangsu · 06-24-2004, 09:04 AM

I liked it, I would probably say its the best movie so far. I didn't really like some parts of the acting. Those kids, especially the one playing Harry, need to be able to perform on a higher level.

*spoiler*

When Harry ran outside after finding out the truth and he was crying. It was really bad, he wasn't crying. He did a pretty good job of being angry, but he couldn't pull off a scene requiring that kind of emotion. I would say he is better in this movie than the last two, but I just hope he refines his acting for the next movie.

With that little bit of complaining out of the way I wanted to say my favorite part was when they went and rescued
Sirius from his cell and flew away. I couldn't help but smile, I couldn't control it.

8/10

06-10-2004, 05:16 AM	#41 (permalink)
thespian86 change is hard. Location: the green room.	how do they not stay true to it? I'm going to see it tonight... __________________ EX: Whats new? ME: I officially love coffee more then you now. EX: uh... ME: So, not much.

06-10-2004, 06:47 PM	#43 (permalink)
Hedgehog Crazy Location: Charlotte, NC	I thought it was the best of the 3 films, but not only that, I thought the screenplay was actually SUPERIOR to the book! The screenwriter did an amazing job adapting that long story to the amount of screen time he had to work with. What was left out was for the most part, trivial. And they changed the subplot of the Firebolt to happen at the very end of the story, which occurs in January....NOT the end of the school year, thereby leaving a place for the parts that were left out of the movie (the quidditch season, etc.) to occur off-screen. Rowling said that the screenwriter had added a couple of things on his own, that coincidentally, foreshadow some things that will happen in books 6 and 7. She was very pleased, and I must agree. __________________ Wait a minute! Where am I, and why am I in this handbasket?

06-11-2004, 04:43 PM	#45 (permalink)
Hedgehog Crazy Location: Charlotte, NC	If you haven't read the book, you wouldn't know about the stag. but think on the following clues that ARE in the movie: 1. The magic map is written by Mssrs. Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs. 2. Lupin knows how to work the map when Harry gives it to him. 3. Sirius calls Pettigrew "Wormtail" in the movie. 4. Lupin says that Sirius and Peter became animagi to keep him company when he became a werewolf back in the old days. Sirius changes into a dog. 5. According to McGonagall, Sirus, Pettigrew, and Lupin were best friends with James Potter. 6. Harry's spell assumes the form of a stag. 7. Harry mistakenly thinks his dad cast the spell at first. __________________ Wait a minute! Where am I, and why am I in this handbasket?

06-11-2004, 10:43 PM	#48 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	I dont know about this movie It was very very jumpy, and at the end of the movie I was left with a huge WTF feeling... I didn't really enjoy it... Not my favorite harry potter movie. 6/10 __________________ Feh.

06-12-2004, 10:58 PM	#49 (permalink)
Eclipse26 Tilted Location: My own private world	I thought this one was much better directed then the first two movies. But, given the producers were the same..it still had the same feel, which was nice. The kids finally felt like real kids rather than something totally outside of reality. I liked it far better. __________________ What the damn

06-11-2004, 12:05 AM	#44 (permalink)
Apokx Yo dawg, I herd u like... Location: memes.	Possible SPOILER I liked it alot,I would say I enjoyed it as much as the other two. The only complaint I heard from my friends (who are generally dubious about the Harry Potter movies) was the very last part of the movie,where Harry receives a new broomstick.(and flying at the screen with a huge smile).My friend thought of it as cheezy. I havent read the book,but Im wondering why Harry looked like some sort of stag or moose when he saw himself casting the spell? Friends and I kind of boggled at that.

06-11-2004, 06:54 PM	#46 (permalink)
clockworkgreen Psycho Location: DC	Chris Columbus is boring. First two were kids movies. Loved the movie. I read the book once when it first came out, so I don't know the story down word for word. I LOVED the direction and feel of this movie. If I saw one more cookie cutter "oh, here's when this part is" and one more fucking long ass boring quidditch match that meant nothing, I was going to rush the screen. The scene that immediately grabbed me when I knew I'd love the movie was in the kitchen at the very beginning where the camera pans back as the uncle is on his knees looking up at the sky and the cousin is watching TV and there's just silence except for the TV audio. That scene is lightyears beyond the tired filmmaking that plagued this series from the beginning as is far above the level of filmmaking than everyone was reduced to accepting before. And that makes it fantastic. Don't care much about story changes. See exhibit A - Lord of the Rings for why it doesn't matter. I've watched it a few times now and the second time it was better than the first. Those who liked the first two better, congrats, it doesn't take much to please you.

06-22-2004, 06:41 PM	#50 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	I finally got around to seeing this on the IMAX giant screen (which is quite an experience, by the way) and I was pretty disappointed. Very choppy. There was too much of the book to fit into a 2 hour movie. If they had cut the divination stuff they would have had more room and would not have had to rely on rushed exposition. The book was my favorite of the first three, and the movie did not live up to my considerable expectations. I saw it with two others who had read the book and one who had not. The one who had not was not as upset, but did express confusion about various things, such as Harry's attack on Snape (which, as edited, made little sense) and was frustrated by the time-travel, which I'll admit was weak in the book. __________________ it's quiet in here

06-24-2004, 09:04 AM	#52 (permalink)
Xiangsu Addict Location: Illinois	I liked it, I would probably say its the best movie so far. I didn't really like some parts of the acting. Those kids, especially the one playing Harry, need to be able to perform on a higher level. spoiler When Harry ran outside after finding out the truth and he was crying. It was really bad, he wasn't crying. He did a pretty good job of being angry, but he couldn't pull off a scene requiring that kind of emotion. I would say he is better in this movie than the last two, but I just hope he refines his acting for the next movie. With that little bit of complaining out of the way I wanted to say my favorite part was when they went and rescued Sirius from his cell and flew away. I couldn't help but smile, I couldn't control it. 8/10 Last edited by Xiangsu; 06-24-2004 at 09:06 AM..