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pendragon1122 · 04-24-2004, 06:11 PM

Ok did anyone else watch the battle of Flay vs. Sakai. I think the ratings by the judges were way wrong atleast for visual appeal and orignality. No I can't speak for taste but in those two fields Sakai definately should have won. Flay's stuff didn't even look visually appealing in comparison. Also what happened to the other Iron Chef in this competion. Why is Morimoto taking on Puck and Batali?

buclao · 04-24-2004, 06:14 PM

I think Morimoto is taking on 2 people is because Iron Chef chinese couldn't make it.

rival · 04-25-2004, 06:46 AM

In the first battle, Flay Vs. Sakai, Sakai mentioned that Iron Chef Chinese couldn't make the trip. Sakai used shark fin in his first dish that evening as a tribute to his "good friend".

I've watched both battles so far and I've disagreed with the judges scoring in each episode. I thought the dishes prepared by Saki and Morimoto were more much more appealing visually and more original that what the american chefs put together.

Is this going to become a new series on the food network? I really don't think I'm going to bother watching it after these initial international battles. The appeal of Iron Chef, at least to me, is the exotic and bizzare nature of the show. The live squid, the silly dubbed voices, the completely over the top chairman, these are the reasons I enjoyed the original Iron Chef. This new version puts me to sleep.

Vales419 · 04-25-2004, 10:41 AM

Sakai got fucked over. I think Flay is a joke. By the way, did you notice the "cold sore" on Flay's mouth. That alone, it should have lost, it was fucking disgusting.

V.

Kadath · 04-25-2004, 05:19 PM

We're watching it tonight. It's okay. I think that the judges don't have a good appreciation for Japanese food. I also wonder if it's going to be a series, or just a special. I think they wouldn't have spent all the money for just these few hour specials, but it might be like a pilot. I think the American chefs vs Japanese chefs doesn't really work for a series, but the American Iron chefs versus American challengers could be cool.

pendragon1122 · 04-25-2004, 06:06 PM

Ya I think that this is going to be a new series. I think it is going to be americans vs americans. I don't think that the judging is at all fair. I think that there should have been a few judges from japan and a few from the US to make it fair. The US judges can't judge the foreign items very good. I think that the Puck decision was good but the other 2 were way wrong.

wordssmith22 · 04-25-2004, 06:45 PM

haven't seen tonight's episode yet, but sakai vs flay and morimoto vs vitali were all judged terribly. no love for the original iron chefs. the new chairman guy, is he the dude from brotherhood of the wolf? i know i've seen him somewhere.

evilbeefchan · 04-25-2004, 09:09 PM

What I hate about the American judges is that they were judging by taste of the dish, not how well the chef incorporated the main ingredient, or how the chef brought out the flavor of that ingredient. It just seems that Flay hid the main ingredient of his dishes by adding lots of spices. Or maybe I just biased. Nah.

Fremen · 04-26-2004, 12:05 AM

I watched Morimoto -vs- Batali and Morimoto -vs- Puck and I just realized the new Chairman is martial artist/actor Mark Dacascos.

I wonder why they picked him?

Kadath · 04-26-2004, 04:37 AM

The crap the chairman does with the sword is so obnoxious. And at one point he said to Morimoto "You honor us with this dish," which was more than a little patronizing.

Ripsaw · 04-26-2004, 07:40 AM

You guys are making me happy that I missed it.
Flay is such a tool.

Redjake · 04-26-2004, 07:45 AM

I saw it the other day and it was viciously dubbed. I couldn't watch it without bursting into hysterical laughter.

brianna · 04-26-2004, 07:54 AM

fremen: the new chairman is also the origonal chairman's nephew -- or at least so says the wonderful mr alton brown on the "making of" special.

Fremen · 04-26-2004, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by brianna
fremen: the new chairman is also the origonal chairman's nephew -- or at least so says the wonderful mr alton brown on the "making of" special.

Yup, I heard that on one of the shows, too.
I read on the IMDB forum that the guy that played Chairman Kaga was an actor, as well, and wasn't really related to Mark Decascos.
I don't know if it was true or not.
Btw, I like Alton Brown, too.

Pellaz · 04-26-2004, 07:44 PM

Yeah, I agree we need to deseat this fraudulent chairman and get Shatner back.

Kadath · 04-27-2004, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by Pellaz
Yeah, I agree we need to deseat this fraudulent chairman and get Shatner back.

NOOO!! Anyone but William Fucking Shatner.

TheJig · 04-28-2004, 12:17 PM

Iron Chef America was the worst piece of crap I have ever seen. The judges were obiously paid off, Flay beating Sakai is a joke, and Batali beating anybody is a bigger joke. Did you see how smug he was when he presented his dishes?

They should both be impaled on the new chairmans sword, as long as he turns it on himself afterward.

I LOVE the original so maybe I'm just a little partial to the REAL Iron Chefs. This show is yet another example of how we can't do things better than the japanese.

And why the hell didn't they have an audience? It's called "Kitchen Stadium" for a reason.

Bobaphat · 04-28-2004, 12:31 PM

I don't know why everyone has such a negative attitude. I thought the shows were pretty good for the first couple of episodes. I think that it will only get better as people beging to find their flow and get into a groove. I think that the Iron Chef Japanese are at a distict disadvantage on this show because American and Japanese tastes vary so greatly. None the less, I think this show has potential and I am looking forward to seeing more of it in the future. I also expect that it will allow for greater inspiration in my own kitchen because it will probably deal with more available ingredients than its Japanese counterpart

killklaus · 05-01-2004, 12:58 AM

I hate the new Iron Chef. THe host sucks, flay and mario are worthless. The only thing I like on the show is Wolfgang Puck.

Kaga should show up and beat the shit out of the new host. I have no idea why food network picked ex-crow (Mark) as the host.

The judges were idiots... WILL PEOPLE STOP BRINGING DEAD SOPRANOS ACTORS ONTO THEIR SHOW... If one of the judges says he hates raw food, than he is going to be biased against Japanese cooks.

I find it funny that all the judges are willing to eat caviar (whale eggs) but than turn down salmon roe (more eggs).

Fremen · 05-01-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by killklaus
I find it funny that all the judges are willing to eat caviar (whale eggs) but than turn down salmon roe (more eggs).

Whales don't have eggs, killklaus.

Kadath · 05-02-2004, 06:23 AM

He may have been referring to beluga caviar, which is from the beluga sturgeon and not from beluga whales, for, as Fremen pointed out, whales are mammals and don't have eggs.

04-24-2004, 06:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
pendragon1122 Upright	Iron Chef, Battle of the Masters. Ok did anyone else watch the battle of Flay vs. Sakai. I think the ratings by the judges were way wrong atleast for visual appeal and orignality. No I can't speak for taste but in those two fields Sakai definately should have won. Flay's stuff didn't even look visually appealing in comparison. Also what happened to the other Iron Chef in this competion. Why is Morimoto taking on Puck and Batali?

04-25-2004, 10:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
Vales419 Crazy Location: Purgatory	Sakai got fucked over. I think Flay is a joke. By the way, did you notice the "cold sore" on Flay's mouth. That alone, it should have lost, it was fucking disgusting. V. __________________ "Here's ten bucks, bring me the head of Barry Manilow" --Dr. Denis Leary

04-25-2004, 05:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	We're watching it tonight. It's okay. I think that the judges don't have a good appreciation for Japanese food. I also wonder if it's going to be a series, or just a special. I think they wouldn't have spent all the money for just these few hour specials, but it might be like a pilot. I think the American chefs vs Japanese chefs doesn't really work for a series, but the American Iron chefs versus American challengers could be cool. __________________ it's quiet in here

04-26-2004, 04:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	The crap the chairman does with the sword is so obnoxious. And at one point he said to Morimoto "You honor us with this dish," which was more than a little patronizing. __________________ it's quiet in here

04-26-2004, 07:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ripsaw Chef in Training	You guys are making me happy that I missed it. Flay is such a tool. __________________ "We are supposed to be masters of space, but we cant even line up our shoes?" One life, one chance, one opportunity.

04-24-2004, 06:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
buclao Insane	I think Morimoto is taking on 2 people is because Iron Chef chinese couldn't make it.

04-25-2004, 06:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
rival Crazy Location: Pittsburgh, Pa	In the first battle, Flay Vs. Sakai, Sakai mentioned that Iron Chef Chinese couldn't make the trip. Sakai used shark fin in his first dish that evening as a tribute to his "good friend". I've watched both battles so far and I've disagreed with the judges scoring in each episode. I thought the dishes prepared by Saki and Morimoto were more much more appealing visually and more original that what the american chefs put together. Is this going to become a new series on the food network? I really don't think I'm going to bother watching it after these initial international battles. The appeal of Iron Chef, at least to me, is the exotic and bizzare nature of the show. The live squid, the silly dubbed voices, the completely over the top chairman, these are the reasons I enjoyed the original Iron Chef. This new version puts me to sleep.

04-25-2004, 06:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
pendragon1122 Upright	Ya I think that this is going to be a new series. I think it is going to be americans vs americans. I don't think that the judging is at all fair. I think that there should have been a few judges from japan and a few from the US to make it fair. The US judges can't judge the foreign items very good. I think that the Puck decision was good but the other 2 were way wrong.

04-25-2004, 06:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
wordssmith22 Crazy	haven't seen tonight's episode yet, but sakai vs flay and morimoto vs vitali were all judged terribly. no love for the original iron chefs. the new chairman guy, is he the dude from brotherhood of the wolf? i know i've seen him somewhere.

04-25-2004, 09:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
evilbeefchan Addict Location: Alhambra, CA	What I hate about the American judges is that they were judging by taste of the dish, not how well the chef incorporated the main ingredient, or how the chef brought out the flavor of that ingredient. It just seems that Flay hid the main ingredient of his dishes by adding lots of spices. Or maybe I just biased. Nah.

04-26-2004, 12:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	I watched Morimoto -vs- Batali and Morimoto -vs- Puck and I just realized the new Chairman is martial artist/actor Mark Dacascos. I wonder why they picked him?

04-26-2004, 07:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	I saw it the other day and it was viciously dubbed. I couldn't watch it without bursting into hysterical laughter. __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

04-26-2004, 07:54 AM	#13 (permalink)
brianna Addict Location: nyc	fremen: the new chairman is also the origonal chairman's nephew -- or at least so says the wonderful mr alton brown on the "making of" special.

04-26-2004, 07:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pellaz Addict Location: Texas	Yeah, I agree we need to deseat this fraudulent chairman and get Shatner back. __________________ " ' Big Mouth. Remember it took three of you to kill me. A god, a boy, and, last and least, a hero.' "

04-28-2004, 12:17 PM	#17 (permalink)
TheJig Crazy Location: The Marmalade Forest	Iron Chef America was the worst piece of crap I have ever seen. The judges were obiously paid off, Flay beating Sakai is a joke, and Batali beating anybody is a bigger joke. Did you see how smug he was when he presented his dishes? They should both be impaled on the new chairmans sword, as long as he turns it on himself afterward. I LOVE the original so maybe I'm just a little partial to the REAL Iron Chefs. This show is yet another example of how we can't do things better than the japanese. And why the hell didn't they have an audience? It's called "Kitchen Stadium" for a reason. __________________ "Jenny, tell me, do you still walk, do you still get into sandwiches in a big way?" - Flight of the Conchords

04-28-2004, 12:31 PM	#18 (permalink)
Bobaphat whoopity doo Location: Seattle	I don't know why everyone has such a negative attitude. I thought the shows were pretty good for the first couple of episodes. I think that it will only get better as people beging to find their flow and get into a groove. I think that the Iron Chef Japanese are at a distict disadvantage on this show because American and Japanese tastes vary so greatly. None the less, I think this show has potential and I am looking forward to seeing more of it in the future. I also expect that it will allow for greater inspiration in my own kitchen because it will probably deal with more available ingredients than its Japanese counterpart __________________ --size matters not-- yoda

05-01-2004, 12:58 AM	#19 (permalink)
killklaus Tilted	I hate the new Iron Chef. THe host sucks, flay and mario are worthless. The only thing I like on the show is Wolfgang Puck. Kaga should show up and beat the shit out of the new host. I have no idea why food network picked ex-crow (Mark) as the host. The judges were idiots... WILL PEOPLE STOP BRINGING DEAD SOPRANOS ACTORS ONTO THEIR SHOW... If one of the judges says he hates raw food, than he is going to be biased against Japanese cooks. I find it funny that all the judges are willing to eat caviar (whale eggs) but than turn down salmon roe (more eggs).

05-02-2004, 06:23 AM	#21 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	He may have been referring to beluga caviar, which is from the beluga sturgeon and not from beluga whales, for, as Fremen pointed out, whales are mammals and don't have eggs. __________________ it's quiet in here