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wondash 01-08-2004 05:21 AM

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Originally posted by sherpahigh
Seems to me that there's a lot of emphasis put on the personal relationships between the characters. Me thinks we havn't seen the end of all the knives in the backs.
They should change the name from 24 to As the Day Turns.

NukingFuts 01-11-2004 10:35 PM

I think 24 is the greatest show on TV right now... I just wish I didn't have to wait a week for the next episode... ;)

sherpahigh 01-14-2004 12:39 PM

Anyone catch last nights show? I think it was 10:00PM to 11:00PM?

I enjoyed it. They always leave you wanting more at the end.

NukingFuts 01-14-2004 11:55 PM

where has tikki's episode review been the past couple episodes? It's always nice to see someone else's take on it.

wondash 01-15-2004 06:23 AM

You've got to admit that this season is not on par with the prior two. With that in mind, here's my summary of Day 3:

Let's start with the President. He has a girlfriend. But they broke up because her ex-husband committed suicide. He also has a brother, Wayne, who is his chief advisor. Wayne had an affair with Zoë from Firefly (she was also married to Dozer), but now she' s married to some rich guy. If we're lucky, the President will get back together with his ex-wife!

Jack is a drug addict, and he has a girlfriend. She's dead now, but he doesn't know that yet. He's also getting back together with his old girlfriend, the one who killed his wife.

Back at CTU, Tony is now married to Michelle. But they're having a lover's spat because she's trying to get him fired from his job (for no apparent reason).

We also have Chloe, some weird secretary/analyst who's hiding her baby under the desk. Is this great action or what!

And how could we forget about Kim. She's dating Chase, who was recently captured and tortured. Funny thing is, she doesn't seem to care. I guess now that no person (or animal) is trying to kill, attack, or eat her, she's all calm and collected. Plus, she's got her career as a computer genius to think about!

So that's about it. I may have left out some other minor stuff about drug lords, jail breaks, and deadly viruses. But that part of the plot is all boring and the writers have kept it to a minimum. :)

sherpahigh 01-15-2004 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by wondash
You've got to admit that this season is not on par with the prior two. With that in mind, here's my summary of Day 3:

Let's start with the President. He has a girlfriend. But they broke up because her ex-husband committed suicide. He also has a brother, Wayne, who is his chief advisor. Wayne had an affair with Zoë from Firefly (she was also married to Dozer), but now she' s married to some rich guy. If we're lucky, the President will get back together with his ex-wife!

Jack is a drug addict, and he has a girlfriend. She's dead now, but he doesn't know that yet. He's also getting back together with his old girlfriend, the one who killed his wife.

Back at CTU, Tony is now married to Michelle. But they're having a lover's spat because she's trying to get him fired from his job (for no apparent reason).

We also have Chloe, some weird secretary/analyst who's hiding her baby under the desk. Is this great action or what!

And how could we forget about Kim. She's dating Chase, who was recently captured and tortured. Funny thing is, she doesn't seem to care. I guess now that no person (or animal) is trying to kill, attack, or eat her, she's all calm and collected. Plus, she's got her career as a computer genius to think about!

So that's about it. I may have left out some other minor stuff about drug lords, jail breaks, and deadly viruses. But that part of the plot is all boring and the writers have kept it to a minimum. :)

haha, I suppose they have been concentrating a bit more on the "soap opera" drama this season and a little less emphasis on the action stuff, but there's still plenty of action there. I think we'll see the action picking up again before the day is out. I still love all the twists and turns they throw, still a great show.

t3m3st 01-15-2004 11:41 AM

I can't watch 24 on TV
I cannot wait for the next episode. Tried last season, didn't work.
I'd rather buy the DVD set and do the marathon thing ^_^ its such a great show. Can't wait for day 3 next Christmas

Destrox 01-16-2004 10:08 AM

its not called day 3!!!

i'm gonna go insane one of these days, way way to many people call it day 3.

Season 3, this is YEARS after the last season.

Sorry, i'm done. It just bugs me.

ironchef82 02-13-2004 10:15 AM

**Bump**

Ok, so a bunch has happened since the last time this thread was updated.

Spoiler: Both Salazars are dead, Amador tricked everyone into thinking he was going to sell the virus and instead got away with highway robbery, taking down an elite Delta Team along the way. Nina was able to remotely launch some sort of worm that infected CTU's computers, but the weirdo Chloe was able to fix it... somehow. And then there's all the drama with the president, his biggest donor (Alan Miliken) having a heart attack, mostly caused by his ex-wife berating him and calling him a little boy... and then refusing to help him reach for his medicine.

So here's what's coming up...everyone's heading back to LA.. Nina will be tortured for more information about Amador and the guy he's actually selling it to...Chase has a little baby girl (unbeknownst to Kim before last week's episode).. Jack will be grilled over his heroin addiction, and you know somehow people are going to connect Palmer's wife with Miliken's heart attack, as in something suspicious will be found (either security footage of her car during the time of his death, or the lack of security footage during the time of his death, or Miliken's wife just breaking down and telling the truth).


What does everyone think about what's happened, what's potentially to come, etc etc?

*edited by cynthetiq to add spoiler tag*

Cynthetiq 02-26-2004 07:55 AM

Kim Bauer, Official CTU Babysitter.

her character is really lame. "I need to tell you something important..." Everytime there is a crisis... and it's what? something stupid...

tikki 02-26-2004 08:01 AM

nina kill kim
jack kill nina

two birds. one stone.

damn. so close.

Cynthetiq 02-26-2004 09:57 AM

one thing that i noticed last night is that as we get closer to the 24th hour, they aren't as haggard looking, tired, etc.

not to mention tony was shot in the neck, jack going thru withdrawals, chase tortured, and all of them are working just fine like nothing happened to them.

Church 02-26-2004 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by Cynthetiq
one thing that i noticed last night is that as we get closer to the 24th hour, they aren't as haggard looking, tired, etc.

not to mention tony was shot in the neck, jack going thru withdrawals, chase tortured, and all of them are working just fine like nothing happened to them.

Good point, even though it takes place over the course of one day, it doesn't seem like it in some aspects.

For example, we are noticing the total deterioration of Tony and Michelle's relationship within a matter of a day, an entire underground deal was developed, organized, conducted, and intercepted within 3 hours, and everyone, as stated, is looking none the worse for it.

tikki 02-26-2004 02:19 PM

Who said their relationship is deteriorating? Haven't you ever seen a couple have a bad day?

Church 02-26-2004 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by tikki
Who said their relationship is deteriorating? Haven't you ever seen a couple have a bad day?
Yes I have, but that is what the show is implying.

EDIT: Plus that's what they said on 24Inside

wondash 02-27-2004 05:49 AM

Reiko Aylesworth (Michelle): "My character is boring"
Producer: "How about we put you in a tight leather outfit, and let you kick some ass"
Aylesworth: "Ok, but I don't want to be the one who gets the virus!"

ironchef82 02-28-2004 05:40 AM

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Originally posted by wondash
Aylesworth: "Ok, but I don't want to be the one who gets the virus!"
Well... she's now in a building where the virus is in the central ventilation system. So... if that really IS the virus (you can never tell with the way this show is), she may be doomed.

Friends and I have speculated that if she did get infected, there will be some sort of touching scene where Tony goes to the hotel to see his wife alive for the last time, they're separated by a glass wall, etc.. just like the scenes where Kyle Singer was "infected" and was saying goodbye to his parents.

Cynthetiq 03-01-2004 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by ironchef82
Well... she's now in a building where the virus is in the central ventilation system. So... if that really IS the virus (you can never tell with the way this show is), she may be doomed.

Friends and I have speculated that if she did get infected, there will be some sort of touching scene where Tony goes to the hotel to see his wife alive for the last time, they're separated by a glass wall, etc.. just like the scenes where Kyle Singer was "infected" and was saying goodbye to his parents.

or like spock. then she can be cloned and then become an evil clone for Season 4

wondash 04-05-2004 04:44 AM

A decent episode! I finally got around to watching last weeks 24, the first after a long hiatus. I had almost given up on the show. But the action is back; people are getting shot, people are bleeding, the president is getting blackmailed... :D

sherpahigh 04-05-2004 07:13 AM

Ya last weeks episode was intense. I was actually on the edge of my couch for parts. The bleeding people in the Hotel... well that's just gotta suck. Now the window's been broken. Bad news. Can't wait till Tuesday.

Stompy 04-05-2004 07:24 AM

The only thing that makes me roll my eyes at the series is the fact that the President is SO goddamn naive.

Yeah, again, call in the help of a woman who has continuously fucked you over in the past by lying to you. Not only that, but each time you see her AFTER she has fucked you over (and how she's NOT in prison is beyond me), she claims she's changed only to turn around and fuck ya a bit more!

I could understand being tricked a second time because everyone a second chance, but come on... three times? If he can't see through deceit of his ex-wife, then how is he fit to make other decisions as president? People who fall for that crap.. it's like, come on, how the hell are you THAT gullible?

Aside from that, the show's damn good. There's really only 4 or 5 good shows on the entire linup of tv/cable these days, and this is definitely one of them.

tikki 04-06-2004 05:37 PM

I definitely agree. The President needs to be removed from office. The past two seasons I have not given a damn about his role. Why Cochran and Surnow think they need to have an entire sub-plot involving the conspiracies of the white house is beyond me. Just have Hayesbert around to take Jack's phone calls periodically.

adia 04-07-2004 12:03 AM

i'm glad that there are other people who watch this show as much as i do. i completely agree about the bad white house subplot too.

matteo101 04-18-2004 07:56 PM

Tonights episode was definetly a sad moment in 24. It seems like they were trying to turn Ryan Chapelle into George Mason of last year. Ryan just didnt have that charm, and though I felt bad for what happened to him, I just didn't connect with his character. It will be interesting to see what folds out with the man who got out of the hotel.

sherpahigh 04-19-2004 09:53 AM

Man, those scenes in the hotel with bleeding/dying people everywhere are gripping. I agree that it was harder to connect with his character but I thought they did a great job with the whole situation. He was a very hardnose kinda guy while doing his job and they managed to bring the human side of him out while it all unfolded.

Great episode in my opinion.

Cynthetiq 04-19-2004 11:07 AM

I was watching The Sopranos and realized that Chappelle is Father Phillip Intintola.

:) aah... tuesday. we'll see what happens.

Speed_Gibson 04-19-2004 07:31 PM

Never have watched this show in any form, but out of sheer curiousity googled to see what this Mia Kirshner girl looked like, very pretty.
http://www.torlian.net/pics/web_foru...a_kirshner.jpg

noticed one of the cast photos and was wondering if that girl in the middle wearing the skirt is the same actress from the great UPN series Seven Days.
http://www.allyourtv.com/images/t/24/cast.jpg

wondash 04-20-2004 05:09 AM

I watched both 24 and Alias this past Sunday back-to-back. On Alias, nobody ever dies and nothing ever changes. It was also odd to see the President's number one security guy (I don't know the actors name) on Alias; he had a bit part.

matteo101 04-20-2004 07:33 PM

Awesome episode tonight. Incase anyone has taped it and will watch it later Spoiler: The virus could be spreading at a rapid rate, and it will be tougher and tougher to be contained completly. Kim is again in the field, and there was another close call, but jack taking no chances killed the man fighting with kim. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out anyone else watch tonight? what did u think?

wondash 04-21-2004 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by matteo101
Awesome episode tonight. Incase anyone has taped it and will watch it later Spoiler: The virus could be spreading at a rapid rate, and it will be tougher and tougher to be contained completly. Kim is again in the field, and there was another close call, but jack taking no chances killed the man fighting with kim. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out anyone else watch tonight? what did u think?
Actually... Spoiler: Jack didn't kill the guy, Kim did. She had her own gun.

sherpahigh 04-21-2004 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by wondash
Actually... Spoiler: Jack didn't kill the guy, Kim did. She had her own gun.
I didn't see it that way, Spoiler: she did have her own gun but I don't think she shot it. She was fighting him off and knocked his gun out of his hand, then Jack came around the corner and fired. Maybe I got that wrong though, know I'm not sure.

anyway, it was a great episode. It's going to be interesting to see how fast they act on the whole cheater guy situation. Crazy situation.

matteo101 04-21-2004 02:10 PM

yeah Spoiler: Kim definetly had the gun that Jack gave her, but I am almost postitive that Jack was the one that pulled the trigger and shot him. I could be wrong tho...

NukingFuts 04-21-2004 09:59 PM

just watched the part in question on tivo again and Spoiler: Kim did shoot him. He was shot in the gut, and there is no way that Jack could have shot him since Kim was in the way.

wondash 04-22-2004 04:41 AM

What did Kim say at the very end?

Cynthetiq 04-22-2004 05:52 AM

Just an FYI: Fox put in another full season order for next year.

24: season 4 will be...

cartmen34 04-22-2004 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Cynthetiq
Just an FYI: Fox put in another full season order for next year.

24: season 4 will be...

Good question!! I doubt we'll have that answer until 23:58+

It never ceases to amaze me that this show can take such drastic turns and yet appear to be so seemless from one plot point to the next. (With the exception of the moutain lion and kim...that was just uncalled for! lol)

cartmen34 04-22-2004 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by wondash
What did Kim say at the very end?
Not sure of the exact words, but it was to the effect that the terrorist leader would know that they now have his daughter.

matteo101 04-22-2004 04:43 PM

Thanks nuckingfuts.

wondash 04-23-2004 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by cartmen34
Not sure of the exact words, but it was to the effect that the terrorist leader would know that they now have his daughter.
That would make sense, but to me it sounded like she said that the terrorist leader doesn't know that they have his daughter. Maybe she was referring to the fact that the guy with the gun never had a chance to call in.

cartmen34 04-23-2004 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by wondash
That would make sense, but to me it sounded like she said that the terrorist leader doesn't know that they have his daughter. Maybe she was referring to the fact that the guy with the gun never had a chance to call in.
Yes but you are forgetting about the man in the red shirt who was also watching her. He probably called in as soon first chance he got..... assuming he was actually watching her that is.... did we ever find out for sure if the red shirt was watching the daughter as well as the guy that got shot?

matteo101 04-23-2004 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by wondash
That would make sense, but to me it sounded like she said that the terrorist leader doesn't know that they have his daughter. Maybe she was referring to the fact that the guy with the gun never had a chance to call in.
This is what I heard, but again I could be wrong.

wondash 04-26-2004 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by cartmen34
Yes but you are forgetting about the man in the red shirt who was also watching her. He probably called in as soon first chance he got..... assuming he was actually watching her that is.... did we ever find out for sure if the red shirt was watching the daughter as well as the guy that got shot?
It's not clear that the guy in the red shirt was watching her also. It seemed like the lead terrorist only had one guy watching his daughter.

Wouldn't it be interesting if the guy in the library who grabbed Kim was really just a pervert trying to rape her (it happens a couple times each season :rolleyes: ). Think about it, he only tells her not to call for help, and he drags her out the back. Just a thought.

matteo101 04-27-2004 09:33 PM

Tonights episode is one of those episodes where you wish you were watching it on dvd, because then you could just start watching the next episode, and probably the next, and probably the last final episodes. Spoiler: Tony definetly didn't make the right choice, but with Michelle that close to dieing once, he wasn't going to let it happen again. Who know's if kim and his daughter will get back to ctu, and in general everything is pretty messed up. I mean the virus is in many locations, and it will be hard to contain it. . Two things that I remembered that possibly might come into play is 1 Kate Warner. She was in the very begining episode, but who knows if she was just there to show that Jack might have cheated on her with Marie(?) Salazar, and 2 Chase's daughtor. Both of these two people may be taken hostage etc etc. And another thing that I forgot about is Jack's heroin addiction. At the begining of this day he was dying without getting a fix. Now only like 20 hours later he never even speaks of it, and nobody even cares. Maybe Jack is just such a good agent that he can block it out. Or maybe the writers just forgot about it.

wondash 04-28-2004 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by matteo101
And another thing that I forgot about is Jack's heroin addiction. At the begining of this day he was dying without getting a fix. Now only like 20 hours later he never even speaks of it, and nobody even cares. Maybe Jack is just such a good agent that he can block it out. Or maybe the writers just forgot about it.
Salazar gave him some magic pill to help with the drug problem.

frankgrimes 04-28-2004 07:15 AM

here's a question: what the hell's up with chloe??

matteo101 04-28-2004 02:12 PM

She's an odd odd character.

Stompy 04-28-2004 02:37 PM

I really hope the virus gets out SO bad that they can't contain it.

It won't end like that, I'm sure, but I wish it would. It'd be so much better, IMO.

I like rooting for the bad guy.

I wished that nuke would've went off right in the middle of LA in Season 2 instead of in the desert. I think they could've built a much better story around the aftermath.

You KNOW in real life they wouldn't get all these miraculous chances to win like they have been. After a while, it kinda gets unbelievable.. like c'mon, how much luck can you have?

You're tellin me that they snuck in the building, were seen on the monitor, AND walked off JUST IN TIME for the terrorist guy (forgot his name) to turn back to the monitor? Yeah right.

It's a good show, but c'mon, let the bad guy win for once.

ironchef82 04-28-2004 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Stompy
You're tellin me that they snuck in the building, were seen on the monitor, AND walked off JUST IN TIME for the terrorist guy (forgot his name) to turn back to the monitor? Yeah right.

Um.. I'm assuming you mean the episode where Chase and 3 other agents strike the building where they believe Saunders is (which was the episode 2 weeks ago or so) and not the one just now where Jack, Chase, and the LAPD are heavily surrounding the building where Saunders actually is.

It wouldn't have mattered that Saunders never saw them on the monitor, cause Chase and the 3 others were at a different building, where a switching node was placed so Saunders could trick them into thinking that's where he was. All those shots with the monitors, etc, were just for dramatic effect.

cartmen34 04-29-2004 07:40 AM

What...was...Tony...thinking. All his talk about national security and safety, and then he lets the terrorist walk out the door? Oh...man, Jack's gonna be maaaaaaaadd.....But I can see why he did it. He just got his wife back and now he has to watch her be tortured? hmmm....

And on another subject, dontt you think Saunders would have his eventual capture covered and planned for? What I mean is, all he has to do is tell his "sleepers" waiting in the other cities to release the toxin if they do not hear from Saunders every hour on the hour...or something like that. That way, if Saunders gets caught, then he has that to hold over CTU's head.

sherpahigh 04-29-2004 08:17 AM

Tony screwed up bad. I believe that she's screwed either way though. She probably was infected and the whole letter was just to get her into their hands.

Tough situation though, he had the chance to save thousands maybe millions by losing his wife. Gotta be a tough thing to see and make a rational decision.

I can see your point with Saunders having a backup plan, but I how many hours are left anyway? Don't think there's enough time for too many more twists.

cartmen34 04-29-2004 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by sherpahigh

I can see your point with Saunders having a backup plan, but I how many hours are left anyway? Don't think there's enough time for too many more twists.

Good point. 3 hours? 4 hours left? 2? I'm not sure how many.

ironchef82 04-30-2004 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by sherpahigh
Don't think there's enough time for too many more twists.
The one thing I've learned from this show is that there's ALWAYS enough time for a plot twist

matteo101 04-30-2004 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by sherpahigh
I believe that she's screwed either way though. She probably was infected and the whole letter was just to get her into their hands.

That is an awesome theory, and It will most likely be true knowing 24. It is almost like a spoiler, but yet it might not happen.

ironchef82 05-01-2004 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by sherpahigh
I believe that she's screwed either way though. She probably was infected and the whole letter was just to get her into their hands.
Wait a minute... how can that work? You'd have to anticipate that Saunders and his henchman would be targeting her in order to fake a "you're not infected" letter so that she can be transported away from the hotel. This theory doesn't pan out in my opinion.

My friend pointed this out: What Tony should have said to Saunders (given enough time to rationalize everything) is "anything you do to my wife, we'll do to your daughter"

cartmen34 05-03-2004 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by ironchef82

My friend pointed this out: What Tony should have said to Saunders (given enough time to rationalize everything) is "anything you do to my wife, we'll do to your daughter"

Good point.

Tony should have been all up on his brain to think of that one a little faster.

I just really hope they explain how Saunders got ahold of his wife that easily. I'm not sure I buy into the fake letter theory. I'd think they were just waiting outside the hotel for some agent to come out and then nab them.

But as I've learned with this show, we never really know what's going on. Geuyel (sp?) being a mole for the mexicans, then turning out to be helping the whole time proved that to me.

Piston Honda 05-03-2004 01:46 PM

Tony's lucky to be thinking at all after getting shot in the neck earlier in the day. Nice how that just healed right up, eh?

Cuball 05-03-2004 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by Piston Honda
Tony's lucky to be thinking at all after getting shot in the neck earlier in the day. Nice how that just healed right up, eh?
you are right, same with chase being shot in the hand ... and a few hours later back on duty ...

but that's just part of the show, don't really care actually ... i'm more into the plot :-)

kutulu 05-03-2004 03:15 PM

I really liked 24 before this season started, but this season has really been pathetic. The situations are fucking rediculous. Tony gets shot in the neck, oh I'm fine now. Jack's a H fiend at the start, but has been fine the rest of the day. Chase gets shot in the hand, beaten, and has gas thrown on him, he's fine now of course. Michelle magically is one of the 10% who is immune. They surround the bad guy but wait, there's a few hours left so he has to escape - solution - let's leave this one door unguarded!

The worst was the Pres killing Chapelle and less than one hour later says we won't bow to any more demands!! I bet the ghost of Chapelle appreciates that! What kind of a moron goes from murdering one person to save millions is ok, but allowing terrorists to murder 42 operatives in order to save millions is... just.. too... much...

It's just way too over the top. At least in Alias, there's the underlying 007 superhero thing going on. It makes the asinine plot twists reasonable.

The saddest thing is that I'll still watch season 4 because the networks have such a hard time making good original shows.

matteo101 05-03-2004 04:27 PM

They do classify tv as entertainment for a reason. If they wanted to make it realistic it would be boring. I think it is unrealistic at times, but am I complaining. Nope. I just love the show regardless.

wondash 05-04-2004 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by kutulu
At least in Alias, there's the underlying 007 superhero thing going on. It makes the asinine plot twists reasonable.
Alias... reasonable :D Alias is one of those shows where you know nothing will ever change. The only way any character will be killed is if the actor or actress wants off the show.

sherpahigh 05-04-2004 06:41 AM

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Originally posted by ironchef82
Wait a minute... how can that work? You'd have to anticipate that Saunders and his henchman would be targeting her in order to fake a "you're not infected" letter so that she can be transported away from the hotel. This theory doesn't pan out in my opinion.

My friend pointed this out: What Tony should have said to Saunders (given enough time to rationalize everything) is "anything you do to my wife, we'll do to your daughter"


I may be off on the letter being faked, but there's something underfoot when she's one of the 3 that don't have the virus and gets to leave the hotel only to be snaped up by Saunders's men. They obviously knew CTU would be coming to the hotel, saw that she went in and at that point they could have started preperations for getting her in their hands. heh... I dunno.

Anyway, as for the show being over the top, it's just that, a show. There are elements in it that are a little off like everyone getting shot and being back to normal a few hours, but I think for the most part they do a pretty good job with it all given the limitations of shooting 24 - 1 hour episodes that are all supposed to take place within one day.

kutulu 05-04-2004 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by wondash
Alias... reasonable :D Alias is one of those shows where you know nothing will ever change. The only way any character will be killed is if the actor or actress wants off the show.
It's not as if they kill off people who are essential to 24 either. Jack's wife - expendable, Nina - irrelevant, Chapelle - not very relevant either. In the meantime, Jack, his daughter, Tony, and Michelle are just as resiliant as anyone in Alias.

wondash 05-05-2004 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by kutulu
It's not as if they kill off people who are essential to 24 either. Jack's wife - expendable, Nina - irrelevant, Chapelle - not very relevant either. In the meantime, Jack, his daughter, Tony, and Michelle are just as resiliant as anyone in Alias.
I can't think of a single main or secondary character that was ever killed off on Alias. But it's more than that; every episode is the same... Some Rimbaldi artifact is VERY important. Either the good guys get it or the bad guys get it. It doesn't really matter because it only links the the next 'all important' Rimbaldi artifact.

As for 24, my guess is that Tony will die before the end of this season.

Cuball 05-08-2004 01:56 AM

the president subplot is so frustrating ... why does this sherry always return ... damn I hate that woman (it's a real bitch)

kutulu 05-12-2004 08:59 AM

THe president subplot really should have been left out. It filled time well in the start of the season, but now it's a distraction to what's really going on.

As to last night, who cares if the show has gotten too cheesy, air support rules!

cartmen34 05-13-2004 10:59 AM

My guess is she'll be off'd, or at least removed from the scene, in this whole "nab the pill bottle" scheme.

or should I say.... that's my HOPE (!!) lol

wondash 05-19-2004 04:18 AM

With the capture of Saunders last week, it really seems like the tension has dropped off. Where's the build-up toward the final episode? I think the scene with Saunders heading for the helicopter and Jack calling in the air-strike was the best so far!

ironchef82 05-19-2004 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by wondash
With the capture of Saunders last week, it really seems like the tension has dropped off. Where's the build-up toward the final episode? I think the scene with Saunders heading for the helicopter and Jack calling in the air-strike was the best so far!
I agree. I was worried about how they would extend the tension/excitement level for the last two episodes. At least they put in a nice twist this week that I wasn't expecting...

Spoiler: Julia (Milikan's wife) shot Sherry Palmer and then shot herself.

the_marq 05-19-2004 06:08 AM

Damnit, I thought last night was the final episode. I was all ready for the climax...then nuthin'.

One more week...

Cynthetiq 05-19-2004 06:25 AM

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Originally posted by ironchef82
I agree. I was worried about how they would extend the tension/excitement level for the last two episodes. At least they put in a nice twist this week that I wasn't expecting...

Spoiler: Julia (Milikan's wife) shot Sherry Palmer and then shot herself.

yes that spoiler was a good one. The wife said, sometimes I just wish they woud...

and then it happened.

kutulu 05-19-2004 11:21 AM

Last night's ep was pretty good. I liked the murder/suicide thing. How's that going to effect the President's campaign?

Capturing Saunders and breaking him in that episode does kill a lot of the tension, but having them get the bad guy and all 11 vials in the same ep would have been way too much. They do have that LA vial that they have to get also...

The best part of the season is still the helicopter getting blown to shit.

cartmen34 05-19-2004 12:54 PM

I dunno about the rest of you, but I'm just glad that bitch Sherry got shot. I really hope she doesn't "survive" the wounds and re-appear next season.

And what's with the president's aid? You are trying to cover up a scandal, you *almost* get away clean, and now you are leaving fingerprints all over a suicide victim and getting her blood all over you? C'mon man....run! Run quick...quick like bunny!! Go!

Cynthetiq 05-19-2004 12:59 PM

yes but they were lovers... so it could be easily put together, since she did call him before she got there....

kutulu 05-19-2004 01:00 PM

No, their both dead. The trailers for the episode said that two people would die. Good riddance.

Lord Humungus 05-19-2004 01:27 PM

by chance did any of you check out the website Saunders mentioned in the show? If not, here it is http://www.sylviaimports.com.
I think it would be sweet, if season 4 started like this "The following day...". That would be crazy shit!

matteo101 05-19-2004 01:34 PM

I like last nights episode, and I can't wait for next week. The vial in LA has not yet been found. Sharry is now dead, Tony is done. Kinda leaving it abit wide open for next year. Thanks alot Lord Humungus for that link, thats cool. And yea, that would be crazy if the following day was season4.

Kaos 05-19-2004 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Lord Humungus
by chance did any of you check out the website Saunders mentioned in the show? If not, here it is http://www.sylviaimports.com.

I took a mental note to go to that website then totally forgot. Thanks for the reminder.

And I can't believe I missed last nights episode. I think it's only the 2nd episode I have missed in the 3 seasons it's been on. I will have to go to the 24 website to read the recap.

I really wish they showed a repeat of the show a couple of days later like they did in the first season. :(

Cynthetiq 05-19-2004 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Kaos
And I can't believe I missed last nights episode. I think it's only the 2nd episode I have missed in the 3 seasons it's been on. I will have to go to the 24 website to read the recap.

I really wish they showed a repeat of the show a couple of days later like they did in the first season. :(

two words.

Bit Torrent.

kutulu 05-20-2004 01:05 PM

or mIRC

UyEnHeAd 05-20-2004 05:22 PM

haha i hate watching American Idol and then accidentally catching advertisements for the "24" season, i enjoy just taking a day our of my life and watching them all on dvd :)

Stompy 05-22-2004 10:29 AM

I don't get this show sometimes.

The man is so adamant on releasing this virus for his cause, and of all things, potentially losing his daughter made him stop? Yeah, right.

It REALLY would've made the season much better if he called his bluff so they put his daughter in the infected building so she could die.

It angers me that they build up this fuss around the virus all season long only to have it turn out like THAT. That's on par with those cop out endings to a movie where you find out the main guy is just dreaming or some crap like that.

You'd figure they'd come up with a more intelligent twist as way to get out of a situation like that.

I really hope one of these vials goes off. It makes me mad when the good guys win by chance.

Gjefflin 05-22-2004 11:15 AM

I have to say...this is now my most favorite show now that Angel is going off the air. :( I'm very upset.

Buk 05-24-2004 09:42 PM

Season Finale looks sweet! All they have to do now is kill off Chloe, and it will be the greatest season ever after finally offing that hoebag wife of the president!

wondash 05-25-2004 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by Cynthetiq
two words.

Bit Torrent.

One word: Tivo

wondash 05-25-2004 05:06 AM

Check out this story from MSNBC on 24: Is ‘24’ running out of time?

Very funny and very true. I love the comment about Kim!

Cynthetiq 05-25-2004 05:40 AM

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Originally posted by wondash
One word: Tivo
have it.. and when Tivo fails for whatever programming reason (beyond Tivo's abilities like cable box being turned off after a midnight update and reset) So it doesn't help you if you already missed it.

:) Bit Torrent on the other hand... I can get an episode that I already deleted from my Tivo.

Stompy 05-25-2004 07:18 PM

Worst season finale ever. :(

What an uneventful hour! That guy should've released the virus as soon as he got outta the subway.

What about the event that happened at the end of season 2 w/ the president? That's nice how they never bring it up ever.

ironchef82 05-25-2004 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Stompy
Worst season finale ever. :(

What an uneventful hour! That guy should've released the virus as soon as he got outta the subway.

What about the event that happened at the end of season 2 w/ the president? That's nice how they never bring it up ever.

Uneventful?? Are you sure we watched the same episode? I'd defend my point but it requires way too long of a spoiler tag.

Lord Humungus 05-25-2004 09:25 PM

i dont think i breathed during that.....cant wait for season 4

Stompy 05-26-2004 05:39 AM

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Originally posted by ironchef82
Uneventful?? Are you sure we watched the same episode? I'd defend my point but it requires way too long of a spoiler tag.
Yep. Nothing happened! It was a huge let down.

I'd love to hear arguments stating otherwise.

Spoiler:
Saunders got shot just as he was about to identify the holder of the virus (there goes that "chance" thing I was talking about earlier :rolleyes: .. at least it happened in the bad guys' favor this time).

So... the guy takes off, goes into a school, and gets caught. Ok... what's so special about that? If the guy was smart, he would've went to a more crowded area and released the virus. I was hoping he'd release it in the school, but no, another cliche moment where the enemy dicks around enough so that the good guys just so happen to apprehend him. Pure BS.

Another "by chance" thing happened: just as he was about to shoot Chase he got shot by Jack. How many more times is that scenario gonna happen? Those piss me off. Those are SO unrealistic.

The virus was the main plot of the story, and it was wrapped up in the 2nd episode. It was completely uneventful in the sense that nothing special happened. There weren't any surprises at all whatsoever.

The thing with the president just about ended without a word, thus making that entire sub-plot useless filler. He chooses not to run. Mkay... so what about the shit that was on his hand at the end of Season 2? Not a word there. Crappy ending to a very pointless sub-plot. They should've saved Sherry's murder till the last episode.

Tony gets prison. Not really a shocker considering what he did. He was already in custody in the 2nd to last episode.

...and that's pretty much it.


No surprises, twists, or turns at all whatsoever (this is one of the show's trademarks, so to completely leave it out is assinine). All the big surprises happened at the beginning of the season. In season 1, you don't learn Nina is the mole until the 2nd to last episode leaving the last episode as a "holy shit, I gotta watch this." Nothing like that happened this time.

Considering everything was wrapped up in the 2nd to last episode (of season 3), it left me with an honest to god feeling of "...okay, so why should I watch the finale?", but then I thought, "Well, this is 24. Something BIG is gonna happen." ... and nothing did.

Season 1 ended with his wife getting shot and Season 2 ended with the President getting attacked... cliffhangers for the next season.

None of that this time around. WTF? It's like it suddenly went from this very intelligent and highly entertaining show to just another cliche police drama. If they pull this crap again in Season 4, I'm done. This is the ONLY regular TV drama I watch, and the reason being it's not like the other shows... but with what they just did, I'm starting to believe they're gonna mess things up even more in the future.

Again with Saunders... the man was under torture for 2 years and he's suddenly gonna turn because they threaten his daughter? They really expect people to be that gullible and believe that?

Tempboy 05-26-2004 06:08 AM

On the contrary.. if we expect a twist to the story, and they don't give one to us.. doesn't that make it a surprise?

I'd argue that including some monumentous event at the end of every season would be less 'realistic'. After a threat is neutralized.. what's wrong with them just going home?

Stompy 05-26-2004 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by Tempboy
On the contrary.. if we expect a twist to the story, and they don't give one to us.. doesn't that make it a surprise?

I'd argue that including some monumentous event at the end of every season would be less 'realistic'. After a threat is neutralized.. what's wrong with them just going home?

Well, as far as "realism" goes, it only goes so far. Ever notice that the BEST events happen every hour on the hour? If they were real, they'd probably comment, "Wow, everytime the hour changes, something fucked up happens."

In that sense, it's part of the show. It's designed to make you want to watch the next episode, just like the cliffhangers at the end of the season make you want to see the next season.

I think there's a big difference between that, and, say... the last guy holding the virus who dicked around before shooting chase just in time for Jack to shoot him... or Saunders looking away from the monitor JUST as the agents sneak by (whether or not he was actually in the building is irrelevant, it's the fact that stuff like that happens).

It's easier to accept the big events on the hour and the cliffhangers as opposed to two guys places in this IMPOSSIBLE to get out of situation only to have a stupid thing take place like ... the person guarding them trips on his shoe or something thus making the two trapped men able to escape. It's a cheap way out, IMO.

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In other words: The on-the-hour and season ending events introduce conflict as opposed to the writers creating this VERY messy situation only to have them unable to creatively come up with a solution.. so we end up with "We'll just have him look away at this moment as they walk by." See what I'm sayin?

kutulu 05-26-2004 11:50 AM

I was entertained by the finale but I wasn't amazed or surprised. Jack chopping off Chase's hand was pretty cheesy. Saunders getting shot was totally predictable.

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Originally posted by Stompy
Well, as far as "realism" goes, it only goes so far. Ever notice that the BEST events happen every hour on the hour? If they were real, they'd probably comment, "Wow, everytime the hour changes, something fucked up happens."
I've said that to my wife so many times but hey its a TV show, should the cliffhangers happen in the middle of the ep and end on a boring note?

Rethinking things, the cheesiest part of the season was when they were chasing the last courier in the car and they got blocked in the road by construction equipment.

One more thing. They were in a chem lab. Couldn't Jack have filled a sink full of water, dropped the device in there and covered it with something?

Cuball 05-27-2004 12:33 AM

no need for a season 4 if they keep going like this...

season1 and season2 were great, but this one.... pfff a shame

simonrex22 05-27-2004 02:26 AM

I dont think he had time to fill a sink full of water.

Anyway, i think it was a great season and am looking forward to a season four if they make one. I was just disappointed that there was no cliffhanger at the end.

wondash 06-01-2004 04:24 AM

What a great ending, Jack crying in his SUV :rolleyes:

I'm done. 24 is off my Tivo Season Pass. I can only hope that the next season of MI-5 makes it to the states!

Cynthetiq 06-01-2004 06:06 AM

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Originally posted by wondash
What a great ending, Jack crying in his SUV :rolleyes:

I'm done. 24 is off my Tivo Season Pass. I can only hope that the next season of MI-5 makes it to the states!

I finally watched 24 this past weekend and was very let down.

:) I'm with you on the MI-5....

I will be getting Spooks Season 2 DVD set in just a week or so. Thank goodness for multiregion DVD players.


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