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Lasereth 09-25-2003 03:32 PM

Matrix Revolutions
 
Hey everyone, the official Matrix Revolutions Trailer came out today at <A HREF=http://www.whatisthematrix.com>WhatIsTheMatrix.com</A>. It looks amazing. I LOVED Reloaded (saw it four times in the theatre, once in IMAX) and I honestly can't fucking wait for Revolutions. This trailer may be even better than the Reloaded trailers which were excellent (especially the Super Bowl one). Take a look! Even if you hate the Matrix, at least take a look at the visuals.

-Lasereth

AntHackerX 09-25-2003 04:49 PM

Direct Link to Largest Version(~50 MB)

Yeah.

Mr.Deflok 09-25-2003 10:30 PM

I have at theory, and that is that all the Humans in the Real World are in fact Machines enslaved into another Matrix by the Humans... It's complicated but to all of those that I have mentioned it to, they've punched me in the face thinking that I spoiled Revolutions for them. Ah well, the world always finds it difficult to appreciate intelletuals. ;)

I saw the trailer before work today and was buzzing about, it looks fucking amazing, I had seen all the TV Spots at CodeMatrix.com last week and loved those too.

Only a month and a bit to go!

Batman976 09-25-2003 10:41 PM

...and what is the human's purpose for enslaving those machines? And why would they trick the machines into thinking they were humans? You're theory is very confusing to me. Maybe I didn't read it right.

Oh, and thanks for posting the direct link AntHacker.

John Falcon 09-26-2003 08:38 AM

I seen that on www.comingsoon.net about a week ago.


Movie looks cool. I acutally liked Matrix 2, although most of my friends didn't.

Moobie 09-26-2003 09:57 AM

There is actually less reason for humans to enslave the machines than there is for the machines to enslave humans. And right now there's very little reason for the machines to be enslaving the humans as it is.

Using people as batteries is a terrible reason, I cannot accept that.

My only hope is that Revolutions explains the "real" reason for the Matrix. I don't care if the fight scenes are cool or what happens in the story. I would accept everyone dieing at the end or even some sort of human/machine treaty, I don't care, just as long as they give reason for the Matrix.

*pleasedon'tsuckpleasedon'tsuckpleasedon'tsuck*

viveleroi0 09-26-2003 10:44 AM

I like Martrix 2 as a blockbuster... great movie. But as a thinking piece like Matrix 1... it sucked.

Over all I love it though

CyN1caL 09-26-2003 10:50 AM

Revolutions looks great!

I only watched the trailer once though, I want to be as surprised as possible when I watch the movie the first time on the big screen.

CSflim 09-26-2003 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moobie
There is actually less reason for humans to enslave the machines than there is for the machines to enslave humans. And right now there's very little reason for the machines to be enslaving the humans as it is.

Using people as batteries is a terrible reason, I cannot accept that.

My only hope is that Revolutions explains the "real" reason for the Matrix. I don't care if the fight scenes are cool or what happens in the story. I would accept everyone dieing at the end or even some sort of human/machine treaty, I don't care, just as long as they give reason for the Matrix.

*pleasedon'tsuckpleasedon'tsuckpleasedon'tsuck*

Totally.
It doesn't make sense that the brothers would go to such trouble to create an entire world...and make such a stupid mistake! Despite it being physically impossible to generate electricity from humans, Morpheus also mentions that the amchines also have fusion power. god-damn! Why go the the trouble of the matrix then...? Just make a huge fusion reactor. Problem solved!

Hopefully, revolutions will explain the REAL reason. Bear in mind, that it was Morpheus who told us/neo the purpose of the matrix...and as we now know, Morpheus is far from infallible!
Two possibilities:
1: After seeing "The New-Renassaince", it strikes me that a possibility is that the machines simply decidied that they couldn't hope to survive on a planet that was inhabited by humans...humans are after all so totally destructive. But rather than kill them off, they decided to do the "humane" thing, and merely incapasitate them. Placing them in the matrix would allow them to live their lives normally, without posing a danger to the machines. I believe, even King Solomon himself could not have come up with a better solution to the problem of the humans wanting to destroy the machines!
This is also backed up by the claim made by both Agent Smith and The Architect that the first version of the matrix was a "happy place".
2: The Matirx is a zoo. The machines have surpassed humans in almost all ways. They were created by man, and now they have surpassed man. But there seems to be something different about humans. Perhaps the Matrix is some sort of experiment, by the machines, to try to understand their creators. What are emotions such as "love" and "fear" etc? What is "music" and "art"? Why the self destructive tendancies? What is "free will" and "choice"? Backed up by Agent Smith reffering to the Matirx as a "zoo", and the fact that "the mother of the matrix" (the oracle?) was created to study human emotion.

I am going to be righteously pissed off if Revolutions is anythign less than amazing!

Mr. Spacemonkey 09-26-2003 12:29 PM

I can't wait to see this movie seeing as how much i liked the first two.

Moobie 09-26-2003 01:26 PM

CSflim,

Yes, yes you see what I'm talking about. There is no reason for the machines to allow humanity to survive if their only reason is for power.

I mean seriously, are they trying to make us believe that the machines can develop the ability to reengineer themselves, creating newer and better versions, hover tech, the matrix itself, and god knows what else, but they can't build a spaceship to get above the cloud layer? Or even easier, do you think the machines don't know about geothermal power? No one would use their most hated, and not to mention dangerous, enemy as power. Even if it was efficent, which it can't be. For christ's sake use cattle.

I guess that would make it the Mootrix... sorry.

I have a couple of ideas. One, the machines cannot destroy humanity, because of some sort of Laws of Robotics. They cannot wipe out the human race on their own. Which could explain the choice that Neo is given, either save humanity or save Trinity. They cannot destroy us, but by giving him the choice it allows them a way around their programing because they are not making the decision, a human is.

Or the Matrix is for our own safety. The machines may have decided that humans were as much a danger to themselves as they are to everything else. And so they made the Matrix as the ultimate crash helmet.

There's probably more ways that this could go, but as long as it's not the "coppertop" ending I think I can live with it.

Mr.Deflok 09-26-2003 01:41 PM

If you've seen Second Renaissance you'll have noticed that the machines are spoken of in high regard, in fact humans are downplayed to be inferior.

My theory is that after Zero One was bombed the machines lost. Please note here that Zero One and Zion are pretty much the same word. I believe at this point in Second Renaissance the machines were enslaved into a Matrix and in order to make them believe that they were real in the real world they were put into a sub-matrix governed by the machines we see (like the sentinels).

Why would the machines be enslaved? Ethics. If we clone a human, does that give us any right to kill the clone? Is it any different from killing a normally bred human? No. The fact of the matter is that the clone is a sentient living being. To a certain degree the machines are too. AI, it thinks therefore it is. The machines know pain, they know what feelings are, they know oppression, they're social and they have the desire to pro-create. All just like humans.

Think about it.

CSflim 09-26-2003 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moobie
I have a couple of ideas. One, the machines cannot destroy humanity, because of some sort of Laws of Robotics. They cannot wipe out the human race on their own. Which could explain the choice that Neo is given, either save humanity or save Trinity. They cannot destroy us, but by giving him the choice it allows them a way around their programing because they are not making the decision, a human is.
Yeah, I noticed the apparent parrallels between Neo's choice and Asimov's Laws. But bear in mind that the Agents kill people all the time.
This could be explained by:
1: Killing the odd person here and there isn't the same thing as wiping out an entire race. But this doesn't sit well, in my opinion, with "machine logic": killing is killing, end of story.
2: They don't actually die, but this would require a "matrix within a matrix" explaination....an "afterlife" matrix? :crazy:!

Quote:

Or the Matrix is for our own safety. The machines may have decided that humans were as much a danger to themselves as they are to everything else. And so they made the Matrix as the ultimate crash helmet.
Yeah, that pretty much the way I was thinking with my first explaination.

Once again...Revolutions had better not suck!...or I am going on a killing spree! :lol:

CSflim 09-26-2003 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
If you've seen Second Renaissance you'll have noticed that the machines are spoken of in high regard, in fact humans are downplayed to be inferior.

My theory is that after Zero One was bombed the machines lost. Please note here that Zero One and Zion are pretty much the same word. I believe at this point in Second Renaissance the machines were enslaved into a Matrix and in order to make them believe that they were real in the real world they were put into a sub-matrix governed by the machines we see (like the sentinels).

Why would the machines be enslaved? Ethics. If we clone a human, does that give us any right to kill the clone? Is it any different from killing a normally bred human? No. The fact of the matter is that the clone is a sentient living being. To a certain degree the machines are too. AI, it thinks therefore it is. The machines know pain, they know what feelings are, they know oppression, they're social and they have the desire to pro-create. All just like humans.

Think about it.

MINDFUCK!
I like this ending, but I doubt that it will turn out to be the real one.
But yeah, you're right ZeroOne/Zion is definately of some significance or other.
It would also explain why the EMO from the nukes that bombed ZeroOne didn't destroy the machines....


BTW: On an unrelated note if ANYONE decides to post spoilers in this thread, I will personally hunt them down and kill them...painfully and slowly.
We are all aware that there are (supposed) spoilers available on the net. If I want to spoil my most eagerly anticipated movie ever, I know where to look, and I will do so of my own accord thank you.

EeOh1 09-26-2003 04:18 PM

I'm not a Martix fan really, but the trailer did look amazing. Very well done.

Too bad Keanu only has one facial expression.

CSflim 09-26-2003 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EeOh1
Too bad Keanu only has one facial expression.
Can't argue with that, I suppose.

pancakerabbit 09-26-2003 04:57 PM

D'oh, downloaded mac version of the trailer by mistake >_<

skinbag 09-26-2003 05:44 PM

In the end of Reloaded Neo sensed that the "Real World" was in fact another Matrix. I have no proof, but that's how it looked to me. He's in a coma because he has left his body behind. Who needs to plug in when you are The One?

LaZy 09-26-2003 07:40 PM

WOW! I wasn't that big of a fan of the second movie but after watching that trailer.....the third movie looks like its gonna kick ass.

Mr.Deflok 09-26-2003 08:30 PM

Something else I feel I must add. Further proof to Neo being a machine in the Matrix is that he has the ability to discharge EMP's. You'll have noticed that he goes into a coma at th end of Reloaded when he does so, EMP's affect all robotic equipment in the immediate vicinity. Bane too falls into a coma and how is this? It is said he was the sole survivor of the failed EMP attack on the machines, Bane + EMP = Coma, Neo + EMP = Coma.

Hmmm...

p.s. If I'm wrong about all of this: lol

sadistikdreams 09-26-2003 08:44 PM

Alright, children.

This movie is going to suck if they completely kill off Smith.
Just that laugh... It gives me such a good feeling. I will cry
if they just kill him off. I cried when Neo killed him in the
first movie. Hugo Weaving's character gives me a pleasure
inside, so good it rivals orgasm. I will burn my television
once they start playing the trailers on TV. I hate how much
they pimp a movie. That scence in the rain... I cannot wait
to see. I dont even give a shit if it makes sense or not. I
believe with movies, and books, it is simply how you
(cant find the word) it. In my mind, to the machines, The
Matrix itself is very little. I believe that the machines live as
we do now. Like humans. In a human like society. Because
that is what they are. Well. That's what the AI tells them.
AI... That's artificial intelligence. That brings up a problem
though. Intelligence does not equal and/or create emotion.
I do not believe you can have a society without emotion. But Smith
has emotions. He hates Neo. Smith is a program. It
may be possible to write emotion. If you can write emotion
into the Matrix, can you not write it into a machine. A robot.
A robot is basically a computer. And whenever they refer to
"machine mainframe", it is my belief that they are just talking
about the mainframe of the matrix. I think that the Real
World contains a vast city of machines. It makes me think of
colonial America. We were once controlled. Britain came to
exterminate us. The machines will try to exterminate Zion.
I've been to Britian, and they teach very little of the American
Revolution. The machines of Zero One, or whatever they call
their city(s), know little of Zion. I am sure that there are some
machines that support Zion. Hippie-robots. These robots may
have every right to protest. If humans created the machines in
their own image, I believe the machines think very similar to
humans. They have the same laws. Same ethics as the men
who created them. Alright, that's enough shit from me. Before
I turn into a COMPLETE AND TOTAL NERD.

But dont worry, I'll be back later if you wanna debate.

DownwardSpiral 09-26-2003 09:06 PM

I am very much looking forward to the Matrix Revolutions. The sooner it comes out the better.

pancakerabbit 09-27-2003 06:48 AM

Wow, the trailer's awesome, but it didn't make me nearly as excited as the reloaded trailer did. Maybe it was because Reloaded came out years after The Matrix and Revolutions is coming out less than a year after Reloaded.

CSflim 09-27-2003 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
Something else I feel I must add. Further proof to Neo being a machine in the Matrix is that he has the ability to discharge EMP's. You'll have noticed that he goes into a coma at th end of Reloaded when he does so, EMP's affect all robotic equipment in the immediate vicinity. Bane too falls into a coma and how is this? It is said he was the sole survivor of the failed EMP attack on the machines, Bane + EMP = Coma, Neo + EMP = Coma.

Hmmm...

p.s. If I'm wrong about all of this: lol

Neo didn't give out an EMP. In this film, EMPs are signified by a "blue light".
Also bear in mind that Neo has been near EMPs before, without any adverse effects.

sloindahed 09-27-2003 12:35 PM

Anyone else notice the LOGOS flying through a blue sky at the end of the trailer?

Cardinal Syn 09-27-2003 06:08 PM

OMFG WHOOOOO YAHHH! That gave me GOOSEBUMPS!! GOD that was amazing!!! I just creamed my shorts. I am all excited now :<


Yea i noticed the blue sky. Things that make ya go Hmmmmmmmm....

Jack Ruby 09-28-2003 02:07 AM

Trailer looks very interesting. I was kind of disappointed with Reloaded, but it looks like I'm going to enjoy Revolutions.

I'm not too sure about all these wacky "machines are slaves, matrix within a matrix" theories though. Primarily because they would completely invalidate all the spin-offs and side projects (the comic books, The Animatrix). That, and the story's weird enough as it is - it's unlikely a big studio like Warner Brothers is going to take the risk of really confusing or disappointing the public by putting such a weird spin on the entire series at the last moment.

But hey, time will tell.

Mr.Deflok 09-28-2003 01:17 PM

You do know that there is a Matrix Online game that is set after Matrix Revolutions don't you?

CSflim 09-28-2003 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
You do know that there is a Matrix Online game that is set after Matrix Revolutions don't you?
I wonder if that will suck as much as Enter The Matrix?
Man! What a disappointment!
I mean dodging bullets and running up walls in ultra slow motion is pretty cool and all...but it gets a bit repetitive after...oohh about ten minutes! :mad:

Lasereth 09-28-2003 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sadistikdreams
Alright, children.

This movie is going to suck if they completely kill off Smith.
Just that laugh... It gives me such a good feeling. I will cry
if they just kill him off. I cried when Neo killed him in the
first movie. Hugo Weaving's character gives me a pleasure
inside, so good it rivals orgasm. I will burn my television
once they start playing the trailers on TV. I hate how much
they pimp a movie. That scence in the rain... I cannot wait
to see. I dont even give a shit if it makes sense or not. I
believe with movies, and books, it is simply how you
(cant find the word) it. In my mind, to the machines, The
Matrix itself is very little. I believe that the machines live as
we do now. Like humans. In a human like society. Because
that is what they are. Well. That's what the AI tells them.
AI... That's artificial intelligence. That brings up a problem
though. Intelligence does not equal and/or create emotion.
I do not believe you can have a society without emotion. But Smith
has emotions. He hates Neo. Smith is a program. It
may be possible to write emotion. If you can write emotion
into the Matrix, can you not write it into a machine. A robot.
A robot is basically a computer. And whenever they refer to
"machine mainframe", it is my belief that they are just talking
about the mainframe of the matrix. I think that the Real
World contains a vast city of machines. It makes me think of
colonial America. We were once controlled. Britain came to
exterminate us. The machines will try to exterminate Zion.
I've been to Britian, and they teach very little of the American
Revolution. The machines of Zero One, or whatever they call
their city(s), know little of Zion. I am sure that there are some
machines that support Zion. Hippie-robots. These robots may
have every right to protest. If humans created the machines in
their own image, I believe the machines think very similar to
humans. They have the same laws. Same ethics as the men
who created them. Alright, that's enough shit from me. Before
I turn into a COMPLETE AND TOTAL NERD.

But dont worry, I'll be back later if you wanna debate.

Man, I'm very very glad that the Wachowski Brothers made Smith a main aspect of the Matrix Trilogy. When I first saw Smith walking through those crows before the Burly Brawl, I about had a shitfit. Smith is one bad motherfucker, and it has only exponentially increased with the Revolutions trailer. It seems that the entire trilogy is based on Smith vs Neo, which I think is a very good path to take. Instead of it being the humans vs the machines, now it's Neo vs Smith. Personalizing the entire saga makes it seem more in-depth.

If the trailer is anything of what the movie will be, Revolutions is going to be as good if not better than Reloaded (which was better than the first in my opinion).

-Lasereth

Mind_Storm 09-29-2003 12:53 PM

Matrix "Revolutions" Will Release at the Exact Same Time Everywhere
 
http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article.php?varArtID=196


"Revolutions" Will Release at the Exact Same Time Everywhere

Warner Bros.
September 29, 2003

Burbank, CA - Through IMAX Digital Re-Mastering Technology, Highly Anticipated Film Will Also Debut in IMAX® Theatres in the U.S. on November 5, Marking the First Time a Major Live Action Movie is Released Concurrently in 35MM and IMAX's Format

Warner Bros. Pictures and Village Roadshow Pictures will unveil The Matrix Revolutions, the final explosive chapter in the blockbuster Matrix trilogy, at the exact same moment in time in every major city around the world on November 5. This unprecedented distribution scenario will make the highly anticipated film available to fans simultaneously at 6 a.m. in Los Angeles, 9 a.m. in New York, 2 p.m. in London, 5 p.m. in Moscow, 11 p.m. in Tokyo and at corresponding times in over 50 additional countries worldwide. The announcement was made today by Dan Fellman, President of Domestic Distribution, Warner Bros. Pictures, and Veronika Kwan-Rubinek, President of International Distribution, Warner Bros. Pictures.

"Given the enormous popularity and success of the Matrix films throughout the international community, we're thrilled that we can bring the final chapter of this amazing trilogy to fans simultaneously around the world," Kwan-Rubinek said. "We thank our exhibitors for their unqualified support in staging this extraordinary event."

"The zero hour simultaneous opening of Revolutions once again positions the Matrix films as the cutting edge experience in motion pictures," Fellman added. "Audiences came out to see The Matrix Reloaded in record numbers, and we appreciate the enthusiasm, collaboration and support of our exhibitors in helping us bring The Matrix Revolutions to audiences on November 5."

"We received such an overwhelming response to `Reloaded' from audiences around the globe that the Wachowski Brothers wanted to give our fans the chance to experience the final piece of the Matrix puzzle at the same time in every major city worldwide," said Joel Silver, producer of the phenomenal Matrix trilogy. "It's an incredibly complex and exciting venture that furthers the Wachowskis' vision and underscores the trilogy's theme of integration."

To date, The Matrix Reloaded has earned over $734 million in worldwide box office, making it the highest-grossing film of 2003 and the highest-grossing R-rated film in history, both domestically and internationally. Additionally, Reloaded scored the record for the largest single week ever with $158.2 million and reached $150 million in a record-breaking six days domestically; internationally, it is the 10th highest grossing film of all-time, and is the first film in history to gross more than $100 million in a single weekend.

In conjunction with the Revolutions worldwide distribution event, The Matrix Revolutions: The IMAX Experience will debut at IMAX Theatres in the United States on November 5. This marks the first time a major Hollywood live-action event film is released concurrently in 35mm and IMAX's revolutionary 15/70 format.

Warner Bros. Pictures and Village Roadshow Pictures previously collaborated with IMAX on the hugely successful release of The Matrix Reloaded: The IMAX Experience, which debuted on 39 IMAX screens on June 6, launching three weeks after the 35mm theatrical release of The Matrix Reloaded on May 15. The Matrix Reloaded: The IMAX Experience later expanded to 54 IMAX screens throughout North America and 12 screens internationally, grossing $12.4 million worldwide to date.

"Following the unprecedented audience response and box office performance of The Matrix Reloaded: The IMAX Experience, we couldn't be happier to offer fans the chance to see The Matrix Revolutions: The IMAX Experience on the same day as we open `Revolutions' in 35mm," Dan Fellman said.

Like The Matrix Reloaded: The IMAX Experience, The Matrix Revolutions: The IMAX Experience has been digitally re-mastered into the unparalleled image and sound quality of The IMAX Experience® through revolutionary and proprietary IMAX® DMR(TM) (Digital Re-mastering) technology. IMAX Theatres offer unequalled clarity and intensity of image as audiences experience one of the biggest films of the year on screens up to eight stories tall and 120 feet wide, and surrounded by 12,000 watts of pure digital sound.

In The Matrix Revolutions, the final chapter in the Matrix trilogy, the rebels' long quest for freedom culminates in an explosive battle. As the Machine Army wages devastation on Zion, its citizens mount an aggressive defense -- but can they stave off the relentless swarm of Sentinels long enough for Neo to harness the full extent of his powers and end the war?

Written and directed by the Wachowski Brothers and produced by Joel Silver, The Matrix Revolutions stars Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss, Hugo Weaving and Jada Pinkett Smith.

The Matrix Revolutions will be released worldwide on November 5 by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company, and in select territories by Village Roadshow Pictures.

dragonhawk 09-29-2003 12:55 PM

Wow!!!

Counting the days!

Arc101 09-29-2003 01:25 PM

Hmm probably being released everywhere at the same time coz it is crap. They are hoping lots of people see it before the reviews start putting people off.

Redlemon 09-29-2003 01:31 PM

Arc101, you beat me to it. I bet they have no "preview" screenings for the press, either; that is another sure sign of suckitude.

Mind_Storm 09-29-2003 01:45 PM

I doubt this movie will suck..The previews & trailer were fantastic..If this movie is a flop, they will have to literally go out of their way to make it so.

Reloaded was excellent with the exception of a few blips here and there so i expect big things from this one.

Being somewhat of a marketing guru this is an excellent marketing tactic..Flood the market-place with your product in hopes of a HUGE return on investment..These boys are going for it..They're going for the record..I see it already.

This will be the biggest single week gross of all time.

Lasereth 09-29-2003 01:51 PM

For those saying that they are just putting it out with no preview screenings so they can release a crappy movie without getting crappy reviews fast:

The Matrix Reloaded could not be found on any p2p file sharing networks when it was going to be released; everyone that read the script/screenplay of the movie had to sign a contract saying that they would not reveal any info about the movie. Everyone who saw any filming of the movie had to do the same. Look how Reloaded turned out: the movie was most excellent, and it grossed nearly $400,000,000, shattering any rated R records that had previously been made. The Wachowski Brothers simply want the moment that ends the trilogy that made them famous to be incredibly spectacular. I guarantee it will be.

-Lasereth

docbungle 09-29-2003 03:36 PM

Plenty of people were HUGELY dissapointed with Reloaded. I am one of them.

Lasereth 09-29-2003 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by docbungle
Plenty of people were HUGELY dissapointed with Reloaded. I am one of them.
There's a big difference between being disappointed and the movie being bad. The first time I saw it, I was disappointed simply because it wasn't what I thought it would be. I gave it another chance, and ended up seeing it 4 times in theater and once in IMAX. Sure, it was disappointing to what we all thought it would be, but the movie is a fucking masterpiece. It wasn't anything like the first one, but it sure as hell wasn't anything near "bad."

Most people that I've talked to that didn't like it and/or thought it was disappointing just wanted to see the first one with a different plot. That's not what happened with Reloaded. The Matrix was just the introduction to a huge world that would have two sequels. The Wachowski Brothers HAD to make it different than the last two simply to make it viewable to audiences in case there wasn't sequels.

I've said this dozens of times, but The Matrix was like a videogame, and Reloaded was like a novel. The Wachowski Brothers wanted to draw audiences in with the first one, and then show them that they could do better with Reloaded. They did, by far. If you found Reloaded disappointing, I'd say there's a big chance that it simply wasn't what you wanted/expected. Watch it again (or even twice), and I guarantee your opinion on it will change. Mine sure as hell did; it actually got much better each time I saw it.

I just hate how most people that saw it were confused by the plot or simply didn't like it's steer away from the first one and automatically labelled it as bad. Look at Terminator 2 and the first one. The second one was nothing like the first, yet is considered the better of the two. Change is GOOD sometimes!

Sorry for going off, but I simply can't stand it when a cinematic masterpiece is degraded because of reasons that can be avoided. Roger Ebert seems to be the only movie critic I read that sees this movie the way it should be seen: a completely different experience than the first movie, with the only thing tying them together being the characters. I suppose that's why he also gave it a great review.

I'm not pointing this at anyone, so don't take offense. Just a die-hard Matrix fan that actually sees past my first opinions. I'm willing to have an open-mind, and after seeing Reloaded once, I'm sure as hell glad I have that ability. I probably wouldn't have seen Reloaded again if I didn't.

-Lasereth

Atomsk 09-29-2003 05:00 PM

check out the new trailer at www.movie-list.com
very cool.

bundy 09-29-2003 08:25 PM

actually, that might work out well for Sydney...

**doing some maths**

if its 6am in LA, then it must be... no wait ... thats going to SUCK

- i think that means a 1am opening for Sydney.

(Aussies - don´t trust my maths - work it out for yourselves then correct me if i´m wrong)

Mr.Deflok 09-30-2003 12:49 AM

Too many people had a hard time understanding Reloaded therefore said they hated it.

drown_with_me 09-30-2003 12:15 PM

I had no clue what was occuring the first (and only) time I saw Reloaded. I will rent it when it comes out for a second chance, but overall, my disatisfaction is rooted in the introduction of WAY TOO MANY ideas and characters for one movie. Reloaded seems like it could have been better done if split into two films and given proper justice to the development of the Matrix-concept and new characters as a whole. It just felt "rushed" ...

with fight scenes that were WAY too long.

(crosses fingers for no more million Smith vs. Neo kung-fu fights)

Begora21 09-30-2003 12:27 PM

i loved reloaded and am psyched for revolutions ... I don't get why so many were dissappointed... too high expectations?

JimmyTheHutt 09-30-2003 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
Too many people had a hard time understanding Reloaded therefore said they hated it.
The problem with Reloaded was that they blip-verted the hell out of the audience, and FUNDAMENTALLY required that the audience see the third one to filter the concepts blasted at them in the second one. It wasn't necessarily a bad film, although I am not a fan of it myself, but it was simply TOO MUCH. They overshot what they were looking for and it showed.

Also, the cgi became to readily obvious and overdone in any aesthetic sense. The fact that our intrepid hero was a god at the end of the first one, and now he is just a really good thug irritated me. At the end of the first Matrix, Neo doesn't just bend rules, he rewrites them at will. Taking him on the Matrix should be pure sucicide, because its like trying to attack god. They retconned themselves, and that did annoy me.

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

Lasereth 09-30-2003 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyTheHutt
Also, the cgi became to readily obvious and overdone in any aesthetic sense.

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

I don't understand why people are saying the CGI is dodgy in Reloaded. There is only one point in the entire movie that looked bad to me, and I have a VERY critical eye. That part came when Trinity went past two tractor trailers while on the motorcycle. Just those two tractor trailers looked CGI. Honestly, at first, I thought the Burly Brawl looked fake, but the more I watch it the more I see that it's not the CGI that looks fake but only our minds trying to make it look fake. I can't believe that Neo just did that, but he did, and it looks fucking real.

People bitch and moan that the Agent-Jumping-On-The-Car scene "looked fake." Well, news to you people: the Reloaded screenplay and notes reveal that the only CGI in that scene is the merging of the Agent onto the car. That's right, the Agent really jumped onto a car like that, and the car really did crumple up and flip over using nitrogen tanks. It's fucking real, and people say it looked like bad CGI. What can you say then? Just because something looks like it's impossible to happen doesn't mean that it can't look real. I had to learn this myself, especially while watching the Burly Brawl.

-Lasereth

Jack Ruby 09-30-2003 08:52 PM

Say what you want, the Burly Brawl does look really bad in places. Sadly enough, I think we're going to see some of the same in Revolutions - if you look at the part of the trailer where Neo is smashed against a white tiled wall in the subway, that's not Keanu Reeves' face at all. It's weird to say, but I hope they pay more attention to special effects this time around :p

Lasereth 09-30-2003 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jack Ruby
Say what you want, the Burly Brawl does look really bad in places. Sadly enough, I think we're going to see some of the same in Revolutions - if you look at the part of the trailer where Neo is smashed against a white tiled wall in the subway, that's not Keanu Reeves' face at all. It's weird to say, but I hope they pay more attention to special effects this time around :p
Which parts of the Burly Brawl are you referring to?

And I watched the Revolutions trailer a few times though, especially paying attention to the part you're talking about. It looks like Neo to me! I'll admit that his face was a little weird, but Trinity's face is more than a little weird in a lot of parts in Reloaded. It may be the camera angle, or it may be a stunt-actor. I honestly don't think it's a stunt actor, especially after the main characters of the first two doing scenes way more complicated than that themselves. Maybe CGI is just based on if a person is willing to accept that the CGI is better than what can be done in real life. Hell if I know; I thought every part in the Burly Brawl looked great, and like I said earlier, I have a very critical eye. I made fun of the CGI tractor trailers for a month before the movie came out.

-Lasereth

Johnny Rotten 09-30-2003 09:40 PM

My theory about the final movie is that the Architect was bluffing when he "revealed" that Neo has gone through this whole charade several times before and failed.

What I'm looking forward to is a coda in which it is revealed that all of the Earth is inside it's own Matrix as well, and onward, infinitely progressing.

Mr.Deflok 09-30-2003 09:43 PM

I usually agree to everything Lasereth says but the Burly Brawl wasn't perfect on a CGI sense (though as an action sequence it fucking rocked and was NOT too long). There are points where Neo seems not to have any indentation between his lower lip and chin, most noticably when he uses the pole in slo-mo to whack a Smith over the top of his head.

Mind you I only saw the film twice and refuse to download it because DVD is the only way to watch it.

Lasereth 09-30-2003 10:12 PM

Maybe I've just seen it more than the average person. I saw it 5 times total in theater, and have seen it literally dozens of other times. :) I still hold strong to my opinion about the tractor trailers being the only dodgy CGI in the movie.

-Lasereth

drown_with_me 10-01-2003 10:36 AM

The Smiths' vs. Neo fight was pretty lousy CGI

Moobie 10-01-2003 11:45 AM

Neo vs the Sentinels: a more probably solution?

Try this one on for size...

The Matrix is coded in machine language. One to be compatible to the human mind and two to be compatible to the machine mind. (The machines interact with it as well.) Therefore if Neo can mold and shape the Matrix code at will then he can also shape and mold the machines code.

Now how do the machines communicate with each other? Anyone? Anyone? I'll hazard a guess that it's not through the Postal Service. They're probably using some sort of wireless communication. Does that make sense?

If Neo's mind has the ability to understand/alter machine code how far fetched would it be for him to be able to intercept the Sentinels own transmissions and send back altered information/commands?

This would give reason for what happened at the end of Reloaded, without resorting to the Neo is a machine or Matrix within a Matrix lameness.

Lasereth 10-01-2003 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drown_with_me
The Smiths' vs. Neo fight was pretty lousy CGI
I honestly don't see how people can say Reloaded had bad CGI when other movies that came out recently have piss-poor CGI. Look at Spiderman or Blade 2. They both suffer from the "my body has no gravity or inertia" sickness, making every damn scene look fake as hell. Even if you do think Reloaded's CGI is crap, you have to give the Wachowski Brothers credit for applying real-world physics to every action scene. Sure, people can't fly, but I'm sure that's what it would like like if they could. On top of that, sure, people can't do the insane fight scenes that are in Reloaded, but like I said before...if they could, I'm sure it would look like the Burly Brawl. Go back and watch the movies that also had "spectacular" fight scenes like Spiderman and Blade 2. If those scenes were real, it would NOT look like that because they have the wrong physics applied.

-Lasereth

healyk 10-01-2003 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JimmyTheHutt
The fact that our intrepid hero was a god at the end of the first one, and now he is just a really good thug irritated me. At the end of the first Matrix, Neo doesn't just bend rules, he rewrites them at will. Taking him on the Matrix should be pure sucicide, because its like trying to attack god. They retconned themselves, and that did annoy me.

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

I agree with this completely. Neo can stop bullets and fly, but what happened to the Neo that could see the world as data and could manipulate that data as he saw fit? Made me think the brothers were hedging their bets as to whether the sequels would get made. If they didn't, the ending of the first suggests Neo is about to dismantle the matrix with his bare hands. The only problem was that the sequels did get approved. So they had to bring Neo back (figuratively) to earth.

I think Agent Smith is The One. While there may have been six or seven Neos prior to this, this Agent Smith is apparently a new entity. He also killed the Keymaker, which wasn't part of the Architect's plans.

This trailer has restored my faith in trilogies.

Esoteric 10-01-2003 06:59 PM

I am looking forward to this, trailer was great.

CSflim 10-02-2003 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lasereth
People bitch and moan that the Agent-Jumping-On-The-Car scene "looked fake." Well, news to you people: the Reloaded screenplay and notes reveal that the only CGI in that scene is the merging of the Agent onto the car. That's right, the Agent really jumped onto a car like that, and the car really did crumple up and flip over using nitrogen tanks. It's fucking real, and people say it looked like bad CGI. What can you say then?
One of the reloaded trailers shows this clip, but in real time. It looks perfectly real. I think the "fakeness" of it comes from the fact that it is extremely slowed down.

CSflim 10-02-2003 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Rotten
What I'm looking forward to is a coda in which it is revealed that all of the Earth is inside it's own Matrix as well, and onward, infinitely progressing.
Good god, I hope not! It is just WAAY to obvious a move.
Sadly, there appears to be a lot of evidence for it, most notable, Neo stopping the sentinals at the end of reloaded.

CSflim 10-02-2003 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moobie
Neo vs the Sentinels: a more probably solution?

Try this one on for size...

The Matrix is coded in machine language. One to be compatible to the human mind and two to be compatible to the machine mind. (The machines interact with it as well.) Therefore if Neo can mold and shape the Matrix code at will then he can also shape and mold the machines code.

Now how do the machines communicate with each other? Anyone? Anyone? I'll hazard a guess that it's not through the Postal Service. They're probably using some sort of wireless communication. Does that make sense?

If Neo's mind has the ability to understand/alter machine code how far fetched would it be for him to be able to intercept the Sentinels own transmissions and send back altered information/commands?

This would give reason for what happened at the end of Reloaded, without resorting to the Neo is a machine or Matrix within a Matrix lameness.

That's pretty close, to my personal theory for what is going on. However, neo isn't physically plugged into the matrix. How could he intercept/send any signals, without resorting to some kind of "physic magic", which would be a major cop-out, for a science-fiction film.

I think it may have somehting to do with Bane/Smith...He and neo appear to be connected in soem way.

Lasereth 10-02-2003 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CSflim
I think it may have somehting to do with Bane/Smith...He and neo appear to be connected in soem way.
That's my guess as well. I actually thought that the moment I walked out of the theater after seeing it the first time. The Wachowski Brothers have made this trilogy about Neo and Smith obviously. Now that Smith is inside the real-world, then Neo is going to have to be able to do something about it. They're connected somehow (I don't know specifics, but this is my guess), and in order for Neo to have special powers in the real-world, Smith will have to have them as well. I can't wait to see what unfolds in Revolutions.

-Lasereth

Lasereth 10-02-2003 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CSflim
One of the reloaded trailers shows this clip, but in real time. It looks perfectly real. I think the "fakeness" of it comes from the fact that it is extremely slowed down.
Sadly enough, most people decided it looked fake when it showed the real-time sequence in the Superbowl Trailer. I think it looks better with the sound effects slowed down, but it was pretty badass at real-speed too. Two of the IGN editors said it looked fake as hell in real-time motion. I'd like to smack them in the head and show them the production notes. It's REAL!

-Lasereth

JimmyTheHutt 10-03-2003 12:05 PM

The situation for the third film is a contest for who is going to be the new God. Both Neo and Agent Smith have crossed an importan barrier: between man and machine. Both of them have demonstrated capabilities far beyond what they are supposed to have. As a result of these abilities, one of them will determine the fate of the world. The question is, which one? Thus the third, and most important film. Any thoughts?

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

BulletBob 10-04-2003 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by healyk
I agree with this completely. Neo can stop bullets and fly, but what happened to the Neo that could see the world as data and could manipulate that data as he saw fit? Made me think the brothers were hedging their bets as to whether the sequels would get made. If they didn't, the ending of the first suggests Neo is about to dismantle the matrix with his bare hands. The only problem was that the sequels did get approved. So they had to bring Neo back (figuratively) to earth.

I think Agent Smith is The One. While there may have been six or seven Neos prior to this, this Agent Smith is apparently a new entity. He also killed the Keymaker, which wasn't part of the Architect's plans.

This trailer has restored my faith in trilogies.

Neo can still see the Matrix world as data in Reloaded. When Morpheous, Neo, and Trinity get off the elevator to go see the Merovingian, Morpheous asks, "What can you see Neo?" Neo responds, "It's strange, the code is somehow different."

The Keymaker was also supposed to die. After he is shot he says, "It was meant to be." He had already fulfilled his purpose as a program and was no longer needed.

twister002 10-04-2003 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drown_with_me
The Smiths' vs. Neo fight was pretty lousy CGI
Give an example of a movie with good CGI in it.

Lasereth 10-04-2003 09:02 PM

Yeah, if you think the Smith vs Neo fight was lousy CGI, then something's wrong. There hasn't been any movie to date that has even remotely rivaled the computer graphics in this scene. The head of the Burly Brawl CGI department actually wrote a letter to President Clinton and President Bush explaining that they had figured out a way to replicate humans on screen using a computer program. Neither one of the presidents seemed to care, but the CGI developers just wanted to let them know of the situation...technology that enables human-beings to be created out of thin air on camera could be used VERY dangerously.

-Lasereth

NeverBorn 10-04-2003 09:28 PM

If its the "matrix within a matrix" bullshit copout..I'll be pissed

Mind_Storm 10-07-2003 02:57 AM

The Matrix Revolutions: Yet another Revolutions poster is online at the , official site this to be displayed worldwide.

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.co...er_trinity.jpg

Jack Ruby 10-07-2003 04:10 AM

Everyone stop bitching about the CGI already. Yes, it was great, and yes, there was room for improvement. As always.

I do like the concept of Neo being able to control machines just as Smith gets the ability to control humans in the real world (Bane). And the "Smith is the One" theory, while pretty unlikely, does sounds pretty cool =)

dailyjo2003 10-07-2003 12:07 PM

I don't think the human's are used for batteries, that is nonsense for several reasons -many listed here already. I think the human brains serve as a source of creativity for the machines - the type of human creativity that they inherintly lack. The brains of the inslaved humans could even serve as the framework for the Matrix itself. Perhaps the ultimate computer - millions of linked human brains.

CSflim 10-08-2003 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dailyjo2003
I don't think the human's are used for batteries, that is nonsense for several reasons -many listed here already. I think the human brains serve as a source of creativity for the machines - the type of human creativity that they inherintly lack. The brains of the inslaved humans could even serve as the framework for the Matrix itself. Perhaps the ultimate computer - millions of linked human brains.
Yeah, I thought of that...works nicely if you apply the lie of "human beings only use 10% of their brain"
That 90% could offer the machines some serious computing power in a reasonably inexpensive way. All they need to do is provide some mindless entertainment for the other 10%!
(Also explains why they used humans, and not cows or some other animal)

THE MAC GOD 10-09-2003 02:38 PM

I completely agree with you. People wanted mindless action/entertainment. The Matrix is not that.

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
Too many people had a hard time understanding Reloaded therefore said they hated it.

THE MAC GOD 10-09-2003 02:47 PM

CHECK THIS ACTION OUT:

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.co...ster_smith.jpg

Lasereth 10-09-2003 03:12 PM

Holy shit! That's fucking AWESOME. Just a little bit longer...

-Lasereth

Mr.Deflok 10-09-2003 04:12 PM

I like the Morpheus Rev, poster the best.

THE MAC GOD 10-28-2003 02:42 PM

SO... Who's got Revolutions tickets?!?
 
Can't wait... I'll have to get up at 5am so I can get there at least two hours early... MAN, this is going to rock. Also, please don't respond that RELOADED sucked. You obviously didn't get it and you probably didn't watch the Animatrix or play both characters in the game.
Anyway, this is for people who love it through and through and can't wait!

Starts at 8am for me (central time). Gonna see it then and again at 9pm that night with most of my peeps.

djflish 10-28-2003 02:46 PM

its not out in england for another month probably.

still, i don't think i'll be getting up quite that early, just to watch a movie

THE MAC GOD 10-28-2003 02:51 PM

Nope... its a ZERO HOUR launch... Read this action:


WARNER BROS. PICTURES AND VILLAGE ROADSHOW PICTURES
TO MAKE CINEMA HISTORY
WITH GLOBAL UNVEILING OF THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS ON NOVEMBER 5,
MAKING THE FILM AVAILABLE TO FANS AROUND THE WORLD
AT THE SAME MOMENT IN TIME

Through IMAX Digital Re-Mastering Technology, Highly Anticipated Film Will Also
Debut in IMAX® Theatres in the U.S. on November 5, Marking the First Time a
Major Live Action Movie is Released Concurrently in 35MM and IMAX’s Format



Warner Bros. Pictures and Village Roadshow Pictures will unveil THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS, the final explosive chapter in the blockbuster MATRIX trilogy, at the exact same moment in time in every major city around the world on November 5. This unprecedented distribution scenario will make the highly anticipated film available to fans simultaneously at 6 a.m. in Los Angeles, 9 a.m. in New York, 2 p.m. in London, 5 p.m. in Moscow, 11 p.m. in Tokyo and at corresponding times in over 50 additional countries worldwide. The announcement was made today by Dan Fellman, President of Domestic Distribution, Warner Bros. Pictures, and Veronika Kwan-Rubinek, President of International Distribution, Warner Bros. Pictures.

"Given the enormous popularity and success of the Matrix films throughout the international community, we’re thrilled that we can bring the final chapter of this amazing trilogy to fans simultaneously around the world," Kwan-Rubinek said. "We thank our exhibitors for their unqualified support in staging this extraordinary event."

"The zero hour simultaneous opening of REVOLUTIONS once again positions the Matrix films as the cutting edge experience in motion pictures," Fellman added. "Audiences came out to see THE MATRIX RELOADED in record numbers, and we appreciate the enthusiasm, collaboration and support of our exhibitors in helping us bring THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS to audiences on November 5."

"We received such an overwhelming response to RELOADED from audiences around the globe that the Wachowski Brothers wanted to give our fans the chance to experience the final piece of the Matrix puzzle at the same time in every major city worldwide," said Joel Silver, producer of the phenomenal Matrix trilogy. "It's an incredibly complex and exciting venture that furthers the Wachowskis' vision and underscores the trilogy’s theme of integration."

To date, THE MATRIX RELOADED has earned over $734 million in worldwide box office, making it the highest-grossing film of 2003 and the highest-grossing R-rated film in history, both domestically and internationally. Additionally, RELOADED scored the record for the largest single week ever with $158.2 million and reached $150 million in a record-breaking six days domestically; internationally, it is the 10th highest grossing film of all-time, and is the first film in history to gross more than $100 million in a single weekend.


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AT IMAX THEATRES DAY & DATE WITH FILM’S 35MM RELEASE



In conjunction with the REVOLUTIONS worldwide distribution event, THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS: The IMAX Experience will debut at IMAX Theatres in the United States on November 5. This marks the first time a major Hollywood live-action event film is released concurrently in 35mm and IMAX’s revolutionary 15/70 format.

Warner Bros. Pictures and Village Roadshow Pictures previously collaborated with IMAX on the hugely successful release of THE MATRIX RELOADED: The IMAX Experience, which debuted on 39 IMAX screens on June 6, launching three weeks after the 35mm theatrical release of THE MATRIX RELOADED on May 15. THE MATRIX RELOADED: The IMAX Experience later expanded to 54 IMAX screens throughout North America and 12 screens internationally, grossing $12.4 million worldwide to date.

"Following the unprecedented audience response and box office performance of THE MATRIX RELOADED: The IMAX Experience, we couldn’t be happier to offer fans the chance to see THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS: The IMAX Experience on the same day as we open REVOLUTIONS in 35mm," Dan Fellman said.

Like THE MATRIX RELOADED: The IMAX Experience, THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS: The IMAX Experience has been digitally re-mastered into the unparalleled image and sound quality of The IMAX Experience® through revolutionary and proprietary IMAX® DMR™ (Digital Re-mastering) technology. IMAX Theatres offer unequalled clarity and intensity of image as audiences experience one of the biggest films of the year on screens up to eight stories tall and 120 feet wide, and surrounded by 12,000 watts of pure digital sound.

In THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS, the final chapter in the MATRIX trilogy, the rebels' long quest for freedom culminates in an explosive battle. As the Machine Army wages devastation on Zion, its citizens mount an aggressive defense – but can they stave off the relentless swarm of Sentinels long enough for Neo to harness the full extent of his powers and end the war?

Written and directed by the Wachowski Brothers and produced by Joel Silver, THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS stars Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss, Hugo Weaving and Jada Pinkett Smith.

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For more information, please contact:

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Lasereth 10-29-2003 05:48 PM

I wanted to get tickets, but no theater in our entire CITY is playing it! We don't know what the deal is. They're playing Return of the King but not Revolutions. Some analysts predict Revolutions to produce $1,000,000,000 from ticket sales. Yes, a billion dollars. The theaters here are absolutely crazy for not getting it. I would drive 2 hours to my home to see it, but I have 5 classes the following day. Dammit all to hell...I'll have to see it on Friday. DAMMIT! I wanted to see this movie so bad. I saw Reloaded 4 times in the theater and I want to see this one as well, especially on the opening 0-hour timeframe.

Reloaded was a masterpiece, and if you watch the DVD the producers/actors/developers say it's NOTHING compared to Revolutions. I can't wait, even if I do have to see it a few days after opening day. Long live the Matrix Trilogy -- quite possible the best Sci-fi trilogy ever.

-Lasereth

fishin 10-29-2003 06:43 PM

I can't wait to see it!

Batman976 10-29-2003 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by THE MAC GOD
Also, please don't respond that RELOADED sucked. You obviously didn't get it and you probably didn't watch the Animatrix or play both characters in the game.
Moviegoers shouldn't be required to spend hundreds of dollars and countless hours in order to make sense of one movie. The movie should speak for itself. Besides, it's very fair to say that some people may have watched both movies, watched the Animatrix, played Enter the Matrix TWICE, and still not liked Reloaded.

I'm not saying I didn't like Reloaded or that I'm not looking forward to Revolutions. I'm only saying it's unfair to those who didn't like Reloaded to say they didn't like it because they couldn't understand it.

THE MAC GOD 10-29-2003 08:02 PM

I've read hundreds of posts of people who don't like reloaded... I'm only asking that people who are looking forward to the movie post here... :)

Doesn't Matter 10-30-2003 11:06 AM

I love reloaded, bought it first day.

Though Im more looking forward to the next LOTR

There selling M3 tickets already? (Revolutions)

shannon 10-30-2003 11:39 AM

i have tickets in my wallet. they're not for the first show, i have class until 7:30 pm and i can't skip cause i have a presentation. but i am pumped. we all say we will vomit from excitement. i have a major crush on carrie ann moss. YEAH! can't wait!

Doesn't Matter 10-30-2003 11:47 AM

Can i have your tickets? lol

no...really.

World's King 10-30-2003 12:59 PM

Y'all are nerds.

Doesn't Matter 10-30-2003 01:11 PM

What?! The movies are great...

And its cool to be one of the first to see it.

You need to get in touch with your inner-geekiness.

CSflim 10-30-2003 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by World's King
Y'all are nerds.
where as, you sir, are the epitome of cool. :rolleyes:

Lasereth 10-30-2003 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by World's King
Y'all are nerds.
No, I consider myself a dork. And what else did you expect while browsing the Interests section? People that care about their interests. That's exactly what we do.

-Lasereth

Nikilidstrom 10-30-2003 01:34 PM

Of course he's cool, he used slang. Its a given.

Mr.Deflok 10-30-2003 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by World's King
Y'all are nerds.
Says the man who tried to buy William Shatner's underwear on eBay.

bennyb 10-30-2003 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
Says the man who tried to buy William Shatner's underwear on eBay.
It always comes back to Underwear :rolleyes:

T-Prime 10-31-2003 01:06 PM

Either underwear or Hitler, whichever is more convenient.

fishin 10-31-2003 05:08 PM

cant wait

Mr.Deflok 10-31-2003 08:30 PM

3am is a little too early for me, wouldn't mind doing it but sleep comes before everything. Should be a rocker, despite early negative reviews.

Lasereth 10-31-2003 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
3am is a little too early for me, wouldn't mind doing it but sleep comes before everything. Should be a rocker, despite early negative reviews.
The movie doesn't release but a day early for critics. Where did you see early negative reviews?

-Lasereth

THE MAC GOD 10-31-2003 09:46 PM

yeah.. all the non-spoiler reviews I've read (from the preimere) say it's the best thing since sliced cheese and that even IF you had a problem with RELOADED, this movie secures the trilogy... JUST what I hear... I'll let you know WED.

Sunrise 11-01-2003 12:05 AM

Haven't got a ticket yet, but I'm hoping to get one for Imax, although not sure if imax in australia will be showing it :(
Otherwise I'll just get ordinairy cinemas ticket in the next few days.

Mr.Deflok 11-01-2003 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lasereth
The movie doesn't release but a day early for critics. Where did you see early negative reviews?

-Lasereth

www.aintitcool.com but don't read the reviews unless you want to be s(p)oiled.

Critics, guest, press and test screenings are all different.

Lasereth 11-01-2003 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
www.aintitcool.com but don't read the reviews unless you want to be s(p)oiled.

Critics, guest, press and test screenings are all different.

Wow, I didn't know they had let anyone see it yet. I didn't read any of the reviews except for the opening paragraph. I hope those guys that didn't like it are the same ones that didn't like Reloaded, because Reloaded was a great movie and that probably means Revolutions is too. I doubt the Wachowski Brothers could fuck up the trilogy, but it IS possible.

-Lasereth

Lasereth 11-01-2003 07:12 AM

I just asked my brother about Ain't It Cool News, and he reminded me that they are indeed the people that said Star Wars Episode 2 was the best movie of the year. Their reviews are horrid; they gave Texas Chainsaw Massacre a good review as well. Ha ha; I was almost worried for a minute.

-Lasereth

sic8 11-01-2003 10:20 AM

I've got em and looking forward to it. I'm not expecting too much though.


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