Return of the King...
 

I just cant wait to see this........ The first two were so good, I jsut cant wait. And I dont want to read the book either.

I am also seriously counting the days untill I can see this movie. The first two movies were just spectacular - I loved them!

I can't wait to see the beginning of the third film, because they left something awesome off of the end of the second film. I won't say what, because it would ruin it for those who haven't read the books. But for those who have, you know how VERY cool it will be to see....something.

i loved both movies, i can't wait for number 3. although i'm a little hesitant about seeing shelob(fans of the book know what i'm talking about)on the big screen. icky. :D

As long as they stick to the book. Peter Jackson is quoted that the third movie will be the most true to the book. (except no scouring of the shire... doh!)
But, hey, Sharkey will die somehow, right? :)

Well, the Scouring of the Shire has only been cut down, last I heard, not completely removed, and plus, there's always the Extended Edition coming out in November of 2004. :D

all I know is Peter Jackson better win best goddamn director next year at the Oscars. I haven't seen the 3rd film but considering what he has accomplished and how incredible the films are, how bad-ass the 3rd movie is going to be, he better get the recognition he deserves.

I can't wait to see the third movie either. I'm a huge fan of the books and loved the first to movies; however, the third movie is going to have to be freakishly long to cover that whole book and what they left out of the second book.

Not much need to br redundant on my part, amoung the best moveis if not the best I've seen. the was a version of FOTR on cable the other night that had scenes not even the extended DVD has; about an hour of material. You would be suprised how much important stuff was actually cut.

I really hope they don't cut too much of the scouring of the Shire. It's an important part of most epic tales. (Odysseus, his wife, his bow, and his dog?)
I remember reading the books for the first time and loved it. Some thing were cut and I didn't care(Tom Bombadil) but I really hope this is not true!

I can't wait for it! Even Peter Jackson says its his favourite!!

Actually I heard that they removed the part entirely and they also put Sauromans (sp?) death at an entirely new place in the film...

Other then that, I hear it's great. :D

return of the king is going to rock

huge fan of the book, pretty big fan of the movies. its not so much what they leave out that i mind, as it would be impossible to include everything, i just don't want them to add stuff that wasn't in the book.theres enough in there without adding extra.

Yeah its gonna be awesome, i cant wait. I sincerely hope that the Academy does recognise LOTR moreso, but im not gonna hold my breath.

The movies are awesome but will someone please back me up:

They should have made The Hobbit into a movie instead of a five-minute intro in the first film.

SMOG!!! Why did they skip The Hobbit?

I really hope that shelob doesn't turn out to look really dumb, but considering the quality of the rest of the CGI in the movies I don't think its a valid concern. And I'll back up docbungle. Reread the hobbit for about the fifth time this spring and its still a great story, deserving of its own movie.

The first movie was and still is astounding, the second however didn't really work for me, sure it was great but not that great. Having read the books years before seeing these films I cannot wait for ROTK as that was my fave of the trilogy. Can't wait to see the Witch-King!

Actually they are making a Hobbit movie. I found a leaked trailer on Kazaa while searching for a ROTK trailer. I'm sure it's still out there, give it a look, it looks really cool.

I should read the book, but this is serious...I have a hard time reading a book about short people.

I'm 6 foot, so it's not like I have a short complex...but I guess I get tired and annoyed at all those short people jibes :)

Yep i just saw the 'teaser' and it looks amazing, i can't ****ing wait.

SPOILER:

FRODO DIES

That Hobbit trailer was kind of hard to see at the free bit rates. I couldn't even tell if there was any new footage in it or if all the clips were from the LOTR... Still, I'd like to see them find a way to get the Silmarillion on screen - that would kick some major ass!

Don't worry, he's lying.

And as for the Hobbit trailer, F-A-K-E. The rights for the movie are in a muddle, New Line want to make the movie with PJ at the helm but a competitor apparently has rights to making it.

Yeah, the opening of the third movie - for people who haven't read the books - it going to be a major WTF moment.

I agree, when people are totally clueless about when something happens in the LOTR movie I just wanna smack 'em upside the head with my heavy one volume edition of The Lord of the Rings and scream "READ THE BOOK!". And yeah, h2g2fan, you're first on my list. ;)

Ohhhhh, look at you who knows so much! He's only mostly dead, and mostly dead is slightly alive!.

I'm looking forwar to to the big battles. Also the hobbit would make such a good film, as long as Peter Jackson does it !
How can someone who made Meet The Feebles go on to do such an amazing version of LOTR ?

Yes, the trailer for <i>The Hobbit</i>, as well as any actual news of its production, is fake. Most of the clips have been taken from the first two PJ films, with particular emphasis on the prologue. I'm not sure whence some of the dragon sequences were stolen, but I am certain someone here must recognize them. The heavy use of <i>The Two Towers</i> remix of Chris Mansell's <i>Requiem for a Dream</i> score, poor editing in general, and crude titles at the end are testaments to the trailer's fradulency.

The first movie was awsome. The second disappointed me. Still cant wait to see the third. Id love to see how they do Shelob

Anyone have a definative answer to what Jackson did with the Scouring of the Shire? Has that been taken out, or just shortened?

The Return of the King is going to be good, I for one and looking forward to it.

Holy crap, that was PJ? I thought that was really funny actually, but then I'm kinda sick. :)

Yeah i'm sooo looking forward to it, can't wait!

No scourging because apparently it detracts from the main storyline. What's most unfortunate is that is was never filmed so it won't appear on the Extended Edition of ROTK. Hopefully this is a joke (after all we did see scenes similar to the Scourging in FOTR)

I have only read The Hobbit and The Fellowship of The Ring so I really can't wait to see The Return of The King.

I had the ending of the Return of the King HORRIBLY ruined by some snotty little kid a couple years younger than me.

I would have struck her down with my Masterwork Broadsword.. but... I didn't.

heh. what I really find annoying about the Jackson transition of book-to-film is that while he could make a full tranition (not easily, nor cheaply, nor a short movie - think 6 hours per part), he could have done it. in his cuts, though, he changes the story - for the worse - such as the modified relationship between aragorn and arwen. As such, people that watch the movie before reading the book (some of them) think that the books should be changed to reflect the movie. Others thought that FOTR sucked, because it "ended" the way it did, and gave no thought to the book. Yet others watch the movies, and think that they're knowledgable about everything tolkien, yet they've never heard of the Histories, nor even the Silmarillion. As to what Jackson's done to ROTK, I've heard it's a better transition than TT was (side note: some people were campaigning to change the name of the movie Two Towers, because they thought it referred to the World Trade Center). Shelob and the major fights are in, last I heard. I don't know about the Scouring, but I'd hope that's in the Extended.

Say it ain't so!? :(

I can't wait to see this, but will they be able to top the battle of Helm's Deep?

As for making a Hobbit movie, well there is one. Its just not live action. I remember seeing it a long time back as a kid but there is a version of the book in movie format. Its just animated.

you don't want to read the book? YOU DON'T WANT TO READ THE BOOK??!!!!!!! i know many, many people who would very much love to go "mediaeval on your hiney" if they heard you say that...

movies based on books suck. invariably. i don't care how "good" it is, they always screw around with everything and that pisses me off. not to mention that it, in effect, forces their interpretation of the book on you.

forget movies. bah.

hehe.. sorry, i seem to be rather agressive today... :-/ :-D

While I enjoyed reading the Hobbit, I felt that the Trilogy was about 40 times better. The writing style and plot of the trilogy makes the Hobbit seem like it was written for 5th graders. That having been said, a Peter Jackson version of the Hobbit would be neat. As for people complaining about how the movies are not true to the books: what more do you want?!? I think if the movies are fine the way they are. If they were any more ture to the books, they wouldn't make any sense to people new to LotR.

Well, according to the little preview on TTT DVD, Helm's Deep was a skirmish. There were 10,000 orcs there - the Pellinor Fields will be 200,000 strong.

Remember the opening battle in FOTR? Envision that but with more depth and brilliance and you have ROTK battles.

I read the books a long time ago; was still in high school I think. No story before, or since, for that matter grabbed me like that one. I remember reading in a closet with a flashlight to all hours of the night I was so engrossed. So for years I both hoped for and dreaded the making of films telling that story. How could it be done? It's a huge, complex tale and to me every little detail was important, part of what made it so appealing. From the languages, songs, myriad of characters...it all just fit together in the perfect story of good versus evil. Who is qualified to pick and choose what or whom should be in or out? Or, God forbid, to CHANGE things...characters, scenes...BLASPHEMY!!! So as soon as I saw in The Fellowship of the Ring the "expanded" character of Arwen it all went downhill for me. If you know the story it's not too much of a stretch to figure out that the HUGE event that will take place in the beginning of the Return of the King...did not happen that way!!! And that happens to be one of my favorite scenes, along with The Flight to the Ford...also quite different than in the book; well, not what happened but whom it involved...anyone remember Glorfindel??? Not Arwen, the "Warrior Princess"! I'm hoping and praying that I'm wrong...but it seems to be headed that way. ARRRGGGHHH!!! Aragorn is too young and soft-spoken, I remember Gandalf as being more a crotchety old wizard than a kindly one. I think the best cast character was Orlando Bloom as Legolas, the 1 character that was a perfect fit I think. So I find myself practically taking notes...wrong...wrong...never happened...who the heck is that...? when I see the movies and I can't just sit back, relax and enjoy them. I so much wanted them to be perfect, just like the books. My kids talked me into reading the Harry Potter books and I think they did a remarkable job in re-creating that story; not so with The Lord of the Rings. So, I guess I'll go see The Return of the King, but I'm not waiting anxiously for it...tho i SO wish that I was. Think I'll go read The Hobbitt...

Actually the role of Arwen isn't as expanded as most people think it is. If you have the one volume edition of LOTR there is an Appendix that has a little background about the love between Aragorn and Arwen. Glorfindel was not a major character, I don't mind him being replaced. Apparently you must have quit watching after you saw some of Arwen's scenes in FOTR because I thought that Gandalf was quite crotchety (maybe not as crotchety, but still, the essence was captured). Aragorn softspoken? Where? His voice may not be the way you envisioned it, but Viggo Mortensen surely doesn't deliver the lines meekly. Ok, and the too young thing is just dumb, at the time of FOTR in the book, he's supposed to be close to 1,000 years old, how do you make someone look like 1,000 but yet make them a battle leader at the same time, it can't be done! I think the films are brilliantly done, they don't match up to the greatness of the books, but no movie does, or ever will, so just sit back, relax, accept that things will be changed and enjoy the movie.

Man i can't wait to see this movie,it's gonna be awesome. :)

I agree. This is the closest you're ever going to come to seeing the books on the big screen. I suggest setting aside nitpicking and criticism and enjoying the films as presented by Peter Jackson. A person misses much when looking for faults.

I've read The Hobbit a half dozen times. Read the entire LoTR Trilogy 4 times. Loved all 4 books moreso than any other 4 books I can think of. Truly THE MOST AMAZING story ever told.

as for the movies: easily the best possible adaptation one could hope for. PJ has just astounded me. sure, there are differences, but they are mostly subtle and relatively unimportant. as has been mentioned, the ONLY way they could have done the films perfectly true to the books would be to make each one a 6-8 hour film. and it would have taken them 10 years (instead of the 3 they did spend) to film it all. and it would have cost about $2 billion. which means they would have to charge about $50 per seat for theater viewing. (and guess what? I'd still see them the day they came out, but then, Im a LOTR fanatic like you cant believe).

look at it this way. given how shitty a job they COULD have done, lets just all be glad that PJ did a really good job. How bad would a "Hollywood" LOTR have been?

<shudder>

I'd rather blow Gollum than even consider the possibility.



Jackson took something that most would have said was IMPOSSIBLE to film properly and made two (soon to be 3) of the greatest films of all time from it. He is to be praised.

fuckin A!

But do you know what the most amazing thing is Sion? Peter Jackson prior to making LOTR made gore-fest films, people getting ripped apart, heads exploding, cheesy b-movie gore-fests. I'll never understand why they put him in charge of such a huge project but one thing I'm sure of is that I am extremely glad they did.

Did someone contract him to do the films? I always imagined that he had a vision or something of this project that he always wanted to do and he got people to help him do it.

yeah, it was the vision thing- the way I hear it he was using the gore flicks to finance this- all the while building up his store of high tech toys, just waiting for the day he could do it- then he had to risk most of his personal fortune to finance the thing- just goes to show the power of a dream...

P.S. next, he wants to redo king kong....

Be happy people, Mirimax originally wanted the trilogy to be just 2 films, or maybe 1. He took it to New Line and they demanded 3 films. He made the right choice.

And personally, I think the Scouring of the Shire should be reduced for the film. ROTK has the longest wind down of any book I've ever read. The climax of the story happens, and then there is another 100 pages of people going home. Yawn....may work on the page but not on the big screen.

I agree with you. I just wouldn't make for a good movie. It would make all the hardcore book/movie nitpickers mad however.

well the scouring is like another mini story after the big quest, which is a weird way to end a movie. I think the climax should be, well, the obvious climax of the book, and then wrap it up quickly with the parting of the fellowship and the marriage and so forth. Don't start up another story for 20 more minutes.

i've just seen a sneak preview and OMG it looks awesome!
i don't think ive ever been this excited about seeing a film!

I loved The Two Towers but, I can't stand how Frodo has the same look of panic and strain in his eyes for the whole movie.

i heard Scouring of the Shire won't be in ROTK and his tribute for not fitting it in that movie is he scene in fellowhip.

return of the king is going to rock. i want to see how shelob is going to turn out, the little snipet of her in the trailer looks cool.

what scene in fellowship are you referring to?

When Frodo looks into Galadriel's Pool and sees a possible future.

hahaha i noticed the same thing. he smiles like once through the whole thing

You'd have the same look on your face if you had to carry around a Ring that holds all the power, malice, and coercion of Sauron engrained into it.

I've got 20 pages of two towers left to read then I'm on to return of the king. I think I'll be able to finish it before the movie release! I've just got tons of reading for school to do that I keep blowing off (for good reasons! ;) )
-T