Kill Bill-arghhhhhh
 

Kill Bill is being split into two parts. Apparently, three hours of happiness is too much for the american movie audience. First 90 minute part will be released on Oct 10, with no date for the second, but supposedly 2-6 months later. I'd much rather have just one installment, no cuts. A lot of movies lately are coming in around three hours. Anyone elses thoughts?

damn thats not cool at all. i wish they would of kept in one part. maybe they will add more stuff though to each part that they otherwise would of had to cut if they made the movie 3 hours long. that would be a good thing.

nooooo, my stupid father made me sit through Gods and Generals twice! (~178 min). eh...gonna have to wait even longer for this damn movie...

if a movie's good, i don't mind it being long... and a tarantino kung fu flick qualifies as good. this is a disappointment to hear, but i'm sure the movie studio supports the idea fully... more money in their pockets.

That sucks! I seen the previews this movie is gonna rock!

That kind of length scares a lot of people away. More people will see it this way, but more people (like myself) will be pissed off, too.

Well I'd have to say that as long as a movie is good I don't care how long it is. Tarantino does some very creative stuff with his characters so I have a feeling that regardless of how long the film is it will not feel like, "Ok when is this going to end?" Perhaps after it is released in the theaters (both parts) it will be released as one film on DVD.

I'm getting to the point that unless a movie is an absolute must see on the big screen I can wait for pretty much anything to come out on DVD. The one trailer I've seen for Kill Bill looks intriging but I'm not sure if it warrants seeing it in the theater or not. I'll need to wait for more hype to truly garner my interest.

I've heard that there are sequences in this movie that are shot in black and white. Why? Because they are so violently gory that full color would cause most audience members to either leave or throw up.

Really? That's odd...never heard that.

I saw the preview of this on the "Equilibrium" DVD.

I must see this movie. I must see the B&W scenes, if there's any.

Uma Therman doesnt get enough action roles.
She is a great actress that needs more recognition, hopefully from Kill Bill.

I'd rather they not split up the movie, but they could make up for that by having a double feature where you could see the first part before you see the second part.

Uma Thurman doesnt get any roles anymore because she is a horrible actress. And don't believe they are spliting this movie up because moviegoers couldn't handle a 3 hour movie. I mean, look at Titanic for chirst sake! Top grossing movie of all time, and was longer than most tv mini-series. Its because they saw how Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions was being handled and new if they split the movie up they could draw people in to paying twice to see a single flick. They spend the normal amount of money it takes to make 1 movie, and the public spends twice as much to see it. If this type of flcik is successful, it will become a new trend in Hollywood, mark my words. I refuse to see this movie in theatres, and may not watch it till I can purchase a previously viewed DVD so that my money in no way supports this horseshit.

IMO, Uma Thurman is a great actress. Have you seen "Tape"? or "Mad Dog and Glory?"

Uma is definitely on my Cock Mobster Hitlist... :)

Of course, I think that everyone is forgetting that Tarantino is a freak (a brillant, wonderful freak) and that he had to have some say so, so just maybe it'll be better this way. I'm going to wait till i see it to freak out about the split.

Could not have said it better. And the worst, is that they try to make us believe is to preserve the integrity of the movie. That's making me puke.

I wonder if it'll be released on 2 DVD's?

This shit is ridiculous. Some of you guys are right, its just the newest Hollywood moneymaking ploy.

I've read an early draft of the script, and it sounds awesome. If they actually film it the way it is written , it should be amazing(and as someone has said, shockingly violent). I can't wait for it.

Although I would much rather see the entire film at once, it doesn't upset me too much to have to wait for the second part.

And that is exactly why they will be splitting it up, because they know they can get away with it. Everybody is still going to be dumb enough to shell out the dough twice to see 1 movie because its Tarantino. I dont care if it had Michelle Yeoh in it instead of Uma, i still wouldn't pay to see it. And they wonder why people pirate movies.

That's what I love about TFP. There will always be contridicting opinions. Somebody likes Uma Thurman, somebody doesnt.

Hey, Unknown Poster, where'd you read the script? I MUST READ!!! *shakes violently*

I rather have it as one long movie. I hate interruptions in a movie. And this being a Tarantino film, I wouldnt want to miss something because I had forgotten what happened earlier.

eh anything to make an extra 8 bucks a person

Good one Mr.Deflok! You always crack me up!

this is really retarded. Honestly, i can understand something like the lord of the rings or the matrix.. but this is only a 3 hour long movie. Movie tickets are so bloody expencive these days it hardly seems fair that we should have to pay to see only an hour and a half, and then pay again to see the last hour and a half.. The thing that anoyies me the most is that miramax is letting torentino get away with having his movie split up. They think he is one of their best directors, and dosn't want to lose him to some other studio. If you ask me, his movies really arn't as great as everyone would have us believe, and there is no way that spliting one into two parts is going to make it a better experence for the audience...

Kill Bill reviewed
 

Review of Quentin Tarantino’s new movie, “Kill Bill” from the Village Voice.

Back from the dead with the new Kill Bill, Quentin Tarantino exposes the dick drive, movie ultraviolence, and his foot fetish

Faster, Pussy Wagon! Kill! Kill!
by RJ Smith
October 1 - 7, 2003

Quentin Tarantino holds the keys to the Pussy Wagon. Of all the reasons why it's good to be the king, surely being able to drive the Pussy Wagon is up there in the top five.

"It brightens up everybody's day," says Tarantino. "When you drive a Pussy Wagon, people see you coming."

He's coming. After six years of self-imposed exile, Tarantino is re-emerging with a movie that's going to sell a mountain of popcorn, one so over-the-top it might bring Bill Bennett out of his self-imposed exile. Tarantino's new Kill Bill, in theaters next Friday, is probably the most violent movie ever made by an American studio. It's definitely the first one to merge the talents of Uma Thurman, David Carradine, and Zamfir the Master of the Pan Flute, precariously balancing them all on a sword's edge.

There it is, parked in front of the Beverly Hills Four Seasons, a pimped-out yellow Dodge Ram with the cheesy '70s lettering on the back: PUSSY WAGON. Tarantino tosses the valet his keys to this memorable prop from Kill Bill and heads inside to the press junket. He's looking pretty stoked these days, but his actors are still licking their wounds. Kill Bill pushed its estimable cast to the breaking point, its mix of Japanese sword fighting styles and martial arts acrobatics and months of training turning them into welt farmers. It went way over budget, off schedule, and then Tarantino took a saber and sliced the baby in two parts—Kill Bill Volume One opens October 10, the second half February 20.

His last movie, Jackie Brown, came out in 1997, followed by six fat years of nothing. Tarantino was at the center of American culture in the '90s, but it was starting to seem that his influence might amount to precisely this: two guys in a beer commercial arguing about Ginger versus Mary Ann. The absence was making him look smaller. Tarantino was, take your pick: (a) polishing his World War II epic so long that Kilroy went home and took the war movie fad with him; (b) loading the bong and watching Jim Varney movies at 6 a.m. in his Hollywood Hills house. People wondered if he was ever going to make another movie again—if he'd lost it, even how much he ever had it.

"I didn't really necessarily assume he was stuck," says Thurman. "But you know, creative life and work is kind of mysterious like that. People do get lost. People do lose the fire. People's energy does go elsewhere. But that's just the mystery of being alive."

Jackie Brown was a mature, talky movie, sweet and loopy for all its swagger. But it was hardly an adrenaline shot to the heart, like Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction administered, and the reception was downbeat. During this period, Tarantino was everywhere in the culture, and the exposure made him unable to surprise anybody. If you were ever going to be stuck, this was the place. He had his fortune; he could have continued to hibernate for six more years, clocking Terrence Malick time, Axl Rose time. But what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, then forfeit the Pussy Wagon? With Kill Bill, Tarantino wants back in.

When he re-emerged to start filming Kill Bill (in Mexico, China, and Japan), the reports were hardly reassuring: Tarantino packed up Thurman, martial arts choreographer Yuen Wo-ping (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon), Sonny Chiba, Vivica A. Fox, Daryl Hannah, Carradine, and at least a hundred more to Beijing, where daily he would tear up the script and "improvise" incredibly complicated fight scenes on the spot. The script was 222 pages (twice the norm); cast and crew partied when they'd bagged their first 1,000 reels of film; Harvey Weinstein was headed for another heart attack. That's not even getting into the Ecstasy rave at the Great Wall.

Which is to say, after six years off, Tarantino's thinking huge, looking to open a whole new franchise. "I want to give the fans shit they can't even believe they're seeing
in a Hollywood film," he says. "I'm an arrogant man, and when I throw my hat in the ring, I want to be up there with all the big boys. And I wasn't gonna leave until I was satisfied."

You could fold Kill Bill's plot into a fortune cookie. Left for dead on her wedding day, Thurman's The Bride seeks revenge on the bootylicious DiVAS—Deadly Viper Assassination Squad—who did the deed. The DiVAS fit into a tradition of male-led bands of lethal women, from the Manson family to Charlie's Angels to Fox Force Five. But please, don't invoke Girl Power. True, Thurman fights through hordes of men and women for the ultimate battle, against Lucy Liu's O-Ren Ishi. Both have their dignity, and one of them leaves with it. But Girl Power's been used to sell everything from Lucky magazine to Britney Spears, and maybe it's time we found a new name for the license to kick ass.

Kill Bill is the most film-referential film Tarantino has made yet. It's as if he pulled back from the world after Jackie Brown, curled up with his inner geek, and went a little comatose. Kill Bill references the kung fu movies that flowed from Hong Kong's Shaw Brothers studio in the '60s and '70s, spaghetti westerns, Japanese anime, and the ultra-bloody films of Japanese master Kinji Fukasaku, who died in January. Daryl Hannah says there's even the influence of Jackass, which Tarantino was watching while choreographing a fight scene with her.

Tarantino calls Fukasaku's last film, Battle Royale—a disturbingly bloody teensploitation film set in a slightly futuristic Japan—a movie impossible to overpraise, and says he is stunned that it was made by a 70-year-old man. Old directors rarely have this much juice, he says. "It's a sad cliché that most every director ends their career with a whimper," says Tarantino, who was friends with Fukasaku over the last 10 years of his life. "You know, it's like, 'The sex drive goes, great! Now I can devote myself to my art.' They didn't realize the dick drive is connected to the art drive." He's either about to break into "Dem Bones" or embarrass himself, so he stops. For the moment.

A child raised by a single mom grows up to direct a movie in which women open cans of whup-ass from Mexico to Mount Fuji. And then he has to go and start spouting about the dick drive. Kill Bill deserves more than talk about Girl Power, deserves more than talk about the big boys. Maybe he should hand over the keys and let Uma get the Pussy Wagon home.

What Kill Bill comes down to in the end, perhaps, is a very small thing and a very large thing.

The small thing—things—are Thurman's feet. When Tarantino was meeting with her about Pulp Fiction, he reportedly proffered a friendly foot rub. In that movie, mobster Tony Rocky Horror got tossed out of the window by Ving Rhames for giving Thurman's character a foot massage. When Thurman's The Bride wakes from a coma and escapes from the hospital in Kill Bill, she struggles to get her paralyzed feet to regain sensation. For what seems like minutes these totemic toes fill the screen.

"He shot the whole movie on feet," laughs Thurman. "He could have put the entire story together on feet."

The guy digs her dogs, and he turns them into something huge and pure pop on the screen—you want to shout at them toes to start a-wiggling. It's not just that he's a foot fetishist, but that he takes what he cares about—personal, quirky stuff—and transforms it into art. He hooks you in, too.

The other thing—the large-scale thing—is the last scene in the picture, about 20 minutes long. It's set in a Tokyo nightclub called the House of Blue Leaves (no word whether playwright John Guare will follow through on his threat to go medieval on Tarantino's ass for copyright infringement). The scene is destined to be taught in film schools and ripped off in hip-hop videos for the next 20 years.

This movie isn't about story: It visually establishes a series of hyper-vivid places, then unleashes frenzy in them. The most hyper-vivid place of all is the House of Blue Leaves. And it's the greatest scene in the movie because it isn't just a series of fights—it tells a story through battle, it has rhythm and punctuation while being practically wordless. Writing mannered, dazzling ribbons of words—fully engaged with the real-world dialogue—is arguably what Tarantino does best. So it's worrisome that he pulls back from the world and coops up in the video store of his cerebellum. Or, it would be worrisome, if he didn't make that nonexistent place seem so cavernous. There's more structure and narrative in the House of Blue Leaves scene than in the rest of the movie.

Uma Thurman enters a nightclub where a garage band wails. There's a glassed-over Zen garden below the dancefloor. Upstairs, Lucy Liu is hanging with her yakuza gang, the Crazy 88s. Before it's all over, black-masked 88s storm the screen in tribute to Fukasaku and the Green Hornet, raging like hormones, all eventually mowed down by The Bride. They lie limbless, gushing hoses of blood, so much General Tso's chicken across the deserted dancefloor.

It took months to film this scene in Beijing, and Thurman says she almost didn't survive the experience. "I had a big meltdown one day. And you don't want to see me have a meltdown. I'm swinging a sword that close to someone's face, and it's all well and good to say [she does Tarantino's booming mook voice], 'Hey let's do another one! Ha ha! It's great.' But after hour 14 or 15 of that, it's scary. You don't want to have your eye taken out."
The cast members largely do their own stunts, and much of the action is shot in long takes. "They would just make up stuff on the spot, and I would have to learn 10 or 12 combinations of moves and then shoot it at full speed, full strength. Five guys! Ten guys! Four guys! Up, down, five ways! And at some moment my nervous system just said . . . " Her hand drifts up in the air like a balloon escaping.

"I was only safe from stuff I thought an insurance company wouldn't let him do it. That was the only time I would be safe—when it was definitely, positively illegal."

How did Liu feel seeing herself walk around the set made up for her final scene, in which she gets a severe samurai flattop? "It was a relief," she says. Nothing else bad could happen.

The House of Blue Leaves scene will be what people remember from this movie—it will keep their heads ringing. Tarantino says it's meant to be his equivalent of the Apocalypse Now "Ride of the Valkyries" scene, and it succeeds in part because the making of Kill Bill approached the crazed, against-nature vibe of the making of Apocalypse Now.

"The hardest thing about that scene was simply capturing the movie I had in my head," says Tarantino. "Because the one in my head was as good as any action sequence I've seen in my life. I didn't do all this to be OK. I didn't do all of it to be on a learning curve all right, so that the next action movie I do will be really good.

"I've always considered action directors to be the most cinematic directors—a good action sequence is cinema in its purest form. There's other directors with more resonance, with more depth of feeling, depth of behavior, whatever, but when it comes to pure cinema it's usually a really good action sequence." For all the screams and punchlines, for the soundtrack by the Wu-Tang Clan's RZA and the incredibly well-mic'd way the swords come out of bodies, you almost don't need ears. As for the director, we may be wishing that he pipes down any day now, but he's made a vivid and livid silent movie for the 21st century.

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No comment from me on this one.
This is here as a PSA...for y'all.

I'm looking forward to it, and three hours of continuous action might be too much for even me to digest.I am definitely willing to give Tarantino a shot, and he still has major star power. Plus, I think he will have the right levity to make a project like this work.

I just can't sit for 3 hours in a theatre...just too long for me no matter how good the movie is.

If my friends want to see this movie, I will go with everyone. I do want to see it, but 3 hours is just too much.

Thanks ARTv! Hopefully the movie lives up to my way-to-high-and-unrealistic hopes. My eye's better have cavities like never before when I walk out of that theatre.

Kaos-It's no longer three hours, but two 90 minute films.

I think i could sit through three hours of it but oh well if they're gonna split it up. It looks really cool.

It's a marketing ploy.


The only movies that do well anymore are the ones that have sequals already finished when the first one comes out.

I'm going to see a screening on Saturday... :) hope it's as good as the hype suggests.

The Script was released a loooooooong time ago, havent read it so couldnt tell ya if it seemed legit

BTW does anyone have a screencap or link to a trailer where it shows someone being cut, and the wound is a letter in "KILL BILL", i cant seem to find it anywhere

Kill Bill :eek: I don't like the sound of that:D

Seems to be getting good reviews.

It sounds like a lot of fun, regardless of marketing gimmicks. Hopefully splitting it into two will give him another opportunity to go on the Tonight Show, get drunk backstage and then go out and make Jay Leno feel insecure and uncomfortable.:D

I too am going to see KB when it hits the big screen then will also order my DVD if the theater showing warrants it, but from preivews etc i think it will be a good one.

I can't wait.
Sorry for two parts, but at least it is coming out.

i think Tarintino is a hack.
That being said.. im going to see this movie for dumb fun, and stylish action. I'll try really hard to forget who made it while watching.. maybe i'll enjoy it more.

Re: Kill Bill-arghhhhhh
 

problem basically stemms from miramax. they apparently feel anything over 2 hours will not make them enough money. if you look at the majority of their releases i beilve this is aparent. i guess if your over 2 hours then you have problems getting enough showings in during the day. they would rather see their movies run a ton during the day and make that big boxoffice splash than see it do good over the long haul i think.

Here's an excerpt from Tarantinos' interview in the November issue of Playboy:

Like Atomsk said, it seems it wasn't QT's idea at all. :hmm:

I won't go see them in the theater, but I'm still going to enjoy them when they come to DVD.
My question is: Should they be released as DVDs together as a boxed set, or as stand-alones?

im definately glad to see a new Quentin Tarantino movie

i looked forward to his past releases and own most of them on dvd. i hope im not disappointed

There has never been a more elegant actress than Uma Thurman in "Dangerous Liasons". Ugghnamumph.

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?story=5063

Kill Bill DVD Details
Tarantino lays out his multi-release plans
02/10/2003

Looking forward to Kill Bill? Well, you should be looking forward to the DVD as well, according to Quentin Tarantino, who Empire Online saw today when he cruised in to London in advance of tonight's premiere, you may need a separate shelf just to hold his vision for Kill Bill's home release.

"I'm thinking about it big time already," he said. "I can't imagine a better movie when it comes to great DVD stuff. I'm gonna really play fair as far as the DVD's concerned, you know? We'll come up with separate DVDs for Volume 1 and Volume 2 and I'll do special stuff for each of those. Then we'll come up with a real big version with them both together but I won't repeat the special stuff I put on Volume 1 and Volume 2. I'll do something whole other from that. I might even do some other little movie thing just to go on that special double feature version."

As to what exactly this 'other little movie thing' might be, Tarantino's not telling but the director makes no apologies for his plans to release as many versions as possible. "I'm all about being a collector man. You know? Come out with all the different junk you can."

Same here. He's great.

OMFG!!!! It was incredible...just got back from the red carpet premiere... never been to one before.

I'm not going to spoil the story...but it was very much a fun movie to watch. Lots of genres slammed together.

As I went last night with Cynthetiq...I'll put in my quick two cents without spoiling anything.

The movie is definitely his homage to kung-fu flicks and as such, there are parts that seemed to be a little cheesy to me. However, the movie never really takes itself that seriously, so it's all in good fun.

The movie was definitely in the traditional Tarantino style - nonlinear (but never unclear), a little choppy, great music, more blood than I ever imagined I'd see, and quite entertaining. I'm glad they cut it into two pieces - it was just the right length and ended at a good point.

The fight scenes are fantastic. The final fight sequences (occurring at The House Of Blue Leaves) are really impressive. Uma Thurman does a great job.

I can't wait until Friday.

Febuary, the second part is out in feb.

I was temepted to start a new thread now that the movie is out, BUT....

Mondak says:

"Go see Kill Bill!"

Don't read anything about the movie. Go in fresh with no proconceived notions and then return and read stuff. I had a great time skipping the afternoon of work and seeing a matinee.

Oh yeah - can anyone tell me what the red dots were that kept appearing. Don't worry - that is not a spoiler. Just kinda weird.

I just saw it earlier today. It was cool. :thumbsup:

I saw it earlier today as well, not too bad.

Very good, now if only it were a complete film. When that happens it will be great.

i just saw kill bill and i must say that it was the most fabulous movie i have ever seen!! it was so beautiful and the gore! my lord what a lovely movie!! i want to see it again and again!

i just came back from the movie as well. i enjoyed how he mixed different techniques into the story line (aka lucy liu's childhood).

the soundtrack was great too! i couldnt believe RZA from Wu-Tang did it!!

Waitwaitwait wait.... There was a story?!?! Did we see the same movie? I don't remember there being a story, just a chick with a sword killing people. I seriously do not understand people. You rant and rave about how story and plot and all that is what makes a movie, and then Kill Bill comes out with nothing but blood and gore, and you rant and rave about how good it is... ugh... I'm going to go beat my head up against the wall.

The trailers make you want to see it. If you into that type of movie or tarintino. Maybe not as accesible as his other movies we will see.
Going to see this next week when released over here.

Very good movie. However Tarantino does something with the Anime` scenes that made me physically uncomfortable...Gosh, I felt like i was that dude in "clockwork orange"

It IS disturbing...something about going from hyperviolence right into comic fantasy...you switch gears ALOT when you view this movie. Maybe thats why it seems like such a ride.

I thought it was awkward and did not flow smoothly at all. Editing was bizzare and off-putting. The fight scenes were the best I've ever seen, though, and worth seeing again. Uma is a badass.

Not on par with Quentin's other work, and missing the witty banter that usually flows like water from his characters. I will have to see it again, with a different mind-set, as right now I just feel wierd about it. A very strange film. I want to like it, but don't really know how I feel about it.

Daryll Hannah should not be in this movie.

i liked it a whole bunch.

Being a huge Quentin fan, my wife and I saw Kill Bill yesterday and we both were quite impressed. Lots of good action sequences, the story itself is very amazing. Also the japanese-anime that he through into the movie was very cool and unexpected. If you are Quentin fan, I recommend it.

Peace.

V.

You know your right the story wasnt really that impressive. In fact it was pretty basic so far.
It was the cinematography that blew me away. It was just presented in such a beautiful (albeit gory) way that I was just sitting in awe at how good Tarantino can make a movie look.

Remember,
"Revenge is a dish best served cold."
--Old Klingon Proverb :)

Ok, time for yet another Kill Bill review. I loved it. Never before have I seen a movie that was black and white/ color/ and animation. Must say, black and white along with animation brought in an extra something and were used well. The camera shots are excellent. Not sure why people say they wouldn't go to the movies to see the movie. People, its Quentin Tarentino. Beyond that, it's a great movie. Go to your theatre and get a ticket. Go see it.

Just got back from Kill Bill.

This movie's got crazy style. It's also hilarious sometimes.

I liked it more than Reservoir Dogs or Jackie Brown. I wondered if Tarantino could still make something fresh and cool -- he did.

I saw it a few hours ago. Blew me away.

The plot is not terribly complex and it doesn't need to be. It's simple and quirky and better than most of the trite Hollywoods comes out with anyway. That being said, the Genre-blending was excellent. I love seeing something with 2 or more genres squished together to create something Orginal and yet classic at the same time. The humor was in all the right places at all the right moments. I've always liked Uma Thurman and this just shot her higher on my list.

The only disapointment I have is Lucy Lui's performance, I think my hopes were simply too high. She didn't do BAD, It just expecting her to be mind-blowingly awesome.

And is it wrong to want to be Momo's Sex Slave?

I saw it and I don't have an opinion on it yet for a couple of reasons:

1) Though it did have a vague feeling to end, there was a big enough cliffhanger where I feel I can't judge the first half unless I see the second half.

2) I got to the theatre late and had to sit in one of the front rows. I was minorly concerned about the pain in my neck and didn't let me concentrate on it be art rather than moving pictures. Therefore, I couldn't judge whatever artistic qualities therein.

3) I'm a slow Tarantino learner. I have to see his movies a couple of times to let myself get the whole picture. I hated Pulp Fiction until about two years ago when it finally clicked.

Visually, though, it's worth the 8 or so bones you've gotta pay to see it. It's fast and colorful. There's a certain amount of very superfical excitement to it, as well. A lot of good stuff is lying under the surface, but it's eye candy just the same.

Two cents.

There's a book called Exercises in Style. Written by a french poet, he relates the story of a man on a bus who accuses his neighbor of jostling him. He does it 99 times, a different style for every chapter - extended metaphors, odes, haiku, passive.

I see Kill Bill as kind of a filmmaker's Exercises in Style - he's crammed so much into it. The story is interesting, if not particularly outstanding, and the dialogue is below par for Tarantino, but the light and the timing and the music and the glorious, glorious fighting more than make up for it.

What I liked best was the feeling throughout the movie that everyone involved with its production was having a shitload of fun.

First going to say that this movie absolutely ROCKED THE FUCKIN' HOUSE DOWN so that I can next point out the problems I had with the (half) movie:

1) So much build-up and back story for O-ren, and the last fight, which was supposed to be a climax for the House of Blue Leaves chapter... was kind of a let-down. I just figured it would be more elaborate, or breathtaking.

2) The last-minute split is so obvious it hurts. Barely any bride backstory? Michael Madsen in the film for almost 30 seconds? Feh. QT's style doesn't really work with a half-flick.

3) Glaringly bad acting/dialogue delivery: in the kitchen between Veronica Green/The Bride (sounded like angry robots), most between O-ren and the Bride.

4) Again, O-ren deserved a more elaborate death :P.

Somewhat nominal issues. Definitely one of the best action movies out there.. Vol 2 may make it the best, esp when it's released in its unchopped form.

Excellent action flic! The music was awesome! Anime very cool! Story.... revenge, simple as that. The fight scene in the House Of Blue Leaves is what the Matrix Reloaded should have been!!!

I just saw this Movie ... it is outstanding... As for the concerns about blood... Nah.. Have you ever seen monty python shows where they lose an arm and fake blood is pumped out....

Almost all of the "blood" in this movie had the audience laughing out loud. They were cracking right up. because it's fake enough to be very very funny.

I am in love with Uma Thurmon..... WOW

Skippy

I loved the flick.

Somewhere, I read a review that stated that cutting it into two movies actually helps keep the gore to a nice level. At 160 minutes, it stayed flashy and a little unreal, at three full hours I think it would have been too much.

This movie kicked so much fucking ass.

It was everything that I wanted out of it and much much more. The blending of styles is great. The Eastern and Western styles blended together beautifully. It wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't do all that well in America, but the box office #'s really don't mean much to me. Its a movie I could enjoy watching again and again. I think they divided it up perfectly and I'm glad now that they decided on two parts. Great stuff. There's something for every movie geek in a movie like this. Its great to have Quentin back again.

I thought that the plot was minimal, the acting was terrible, the dialouge was awful and the music was distracting. If anyone likes this movie for anything other than the fighting, they are delusional.

I second, third, fourth everyone here. Fabulous movie, and it was everything I expected - as far as directing. The gore however, I didnt expect. I went in with expectations of gore, but I had no idea what I was about to experience. The gratitious use of gore was fabulous, and certainly made myself and everyone else I was with laugh. Definetly worth seeing if you havent already!

You guys will be able to get it on DVD before it gets here....

Well, I just got back from seeing it, and I was astounded. The story was around the complexity level that I was expecting, although I was astounded at the amount of back story given to many of the characters, I simply wasn't expecting it.

The use of blood and gore in the movie, oh so reminescent of 80's slasher flicks, felt more to me like Tarinto had realized that we have become desensetized to death and violence on screen, and that he needed a visual exclamation mark.

I was also impressed with the quick and brutal deaths found throughout the film, and although I'll always love Inigo Montoya, and the heroic kinds of fights that his personified in the Princess Bride, that's usualy the only kinds of death you see in american movies that aren't about war, so a nice refresher there.

Well, I don't think I can say anything else, and continue to deny the urge to go over most scenes in detail. It's enough that I'd highly recommend it to anyone who likes Tarintino films, enjoyed the old spaggetti westerns, or just has a hankering for a huge dose of cinematic style.

Now that is a disturbing avatar.

best. movie. ever,

I enjoyed the heck out of it. I like the homage to Bruce Lee's Game of Death movie at the end of Kill Bill.

I watched a workprint version of the film and was wondering if they bleep out her name when others say it(i think only Vivica and Lucy say it) or does Quentin only leave us with Black Mamba and "The Bride"

Btw if u enjoyed the anime make sure you watch KITE and Mezzo Forte as it is very similar in style

Her name is bleeped out only once. From then on, she's only referred to as Black Mamba or The Bride.

Bleeped twice from vivica, once from lucy, and once around a scene with buck, iirc. Beyond that, it's mostly black mamba.

First off, the movie was great. Everything about it was great.

Her name is bleeped out to keep on par with older kung-fu flicks. The main character/warrior's name is always kept secret until the final "showdown" when he/she exacts revenge. Then again, he may never reveal her name, like the mystery to what was inside the briefcase in Pulp Fiction.

Tarantino made one hell of a film, and if you didn't enjoy it... there's no reason to bash it. It's just obviously not your kind of film.

Thx guys, just seems a little odd, as the "bleep" is really loud and doesnt fit in, maybe a mute woulda been better

I loved it. It gave me goozebumps. It was amazing. Simple me may it be. But I loved it. Will go see it again

My personal theory is that her real name is Fucky McShitPiss.

wow!
this film blew me away!!

best film i´ve seen in a damn long time.

but the movie theatre was just lucky i didn´t have a samuri sword on me, because i was just SO frustrated by the whole 2 vol thing!!!

hot damn, thats a great flick!!

I watched it again last night on the Teletube and have a question:

Wouldn't "Black Mamba" have questions as to where her child is as soon as she wakes up from the comma? She thinks the child is dead, but what about the huge scar on her chest (I'm assuming she has one from when the baby was removed)?

Anyone understand what I'm saying?

Rookie mistake there. This is the kind of question that movies like this avoid, because they don't really matter. If however you need some rationale, I propose one of the following.

1. She's probably covered with scars, and if the baby had died, they would of had to remove it through surgery.

2. Do you really think she's anything approaching what would be called 'sanity'?

3. I doubt it's a question that after reaching your initial conclusions about, you'd be eager to dwell on. Just like any normal woman, I'd say.

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oh GOD! David Carradine has a NICE ASS!

if splitting it up is a plan to get more money out of the viewers, part of me says its a good idea, not for the community but for the whole idea of making more money off the movie n stuff, and part of me says no its not a good idea, if your going to take one movie and split it into three, they shoulda done a better job with Kill Bill, granted it was an ok flick, but i really think i could go without seeing the second one. unlike lord of the rings, where before you saw it you knew there was 3 parts to it, and alking out of the theater your saying "oh man i definetly have to see part 2 now" know what i mean?

yea, i dont know what im tlakin about anymore, my fingers have minds of there own sometimes, ramblin ramblin on and on and on

1. Good point. But if the baby had survived, they would have also removed it through surgery.

2. Maybe. But she seems to be able to think clearly.

3. Ummm, no! It's her kid. She looked like she was well into her pregnancy when she was almost killed, so it would seem that she would have developed a bond with her child in that time. If no one actually told her it was dead, why would she assume it? And why wouldn't she question any of her victims about it... especially "Buck who likes to Fuck?" He did work at the hostpital after all.

And I don't <i>need</i> any rationale, but I do think Tarantino should have offered some.

I want to know how a crippled women killed to men in a hospital and got away. And how she got money for plane tickets, a passport, and then carried her sword right next to her on a plane. To me that was just sloppy. Did she travel Air Bushido?

I'm sure Quentin thought of that, but prolly didnt give a shit as explaining all that crap would make the movie drag along. She used to be a 'Deadly Viper Assassin' so im sure some douchebag trucker and Buck wouldnt be a problem for some badass lady like herself :D

About the tickets, who said she needed money for that? She is a crazy assassin. And on the plane, there were more people with swords by their seats. I dont think it takes anything away from the awesomeness of the film.

Definately an awesome movie. So far one of my favorites of the year ranking up there with Pirates of the Carribean. I'm sure that might change though with the release of the final Star Wars installment or Lord of the Rings.

Hmm, I think you missed the very stylized, camp tone of the movie. I mean the organization The Bride was a part of is called the DiVAS. That aside, I didn't like the movie as much as I thought I would. The dialogue seemed stale, which is disappointing because that's in Tarantino's wheelhouse. The action, which is the movie, was good but didn't particularly jump out at me as being amazing. Paying homage to Asian action film is nice but it's not something we haven't seen before. If you're into absurd violence I suggest checking out something like "The Story of Ricky" (remember the exploding head from the Daily Show?). Tarantino was perfect with his music selection though. The music of most movies seems to be an afterthought but it really does make a difference when it is chosen carefully.

Episode III doesn't come out this year (unfortunately), it comes out in May 2005 (sadly).