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Roger Ebert: Why I hate 3-D
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Ebert is batting .500 for me recently. This article is so dead on perfectly how I feel about 3d that it could basically have been ripped out of my head. I won't discuss his blighted abomination of an editorial regarding video games here, but it's odd to me that the same person wrote both, but I digress.
My negative feelings about avatar are in no small part because as soon as it came out this side effect was easy to foresee. 3d is a gimmick and a bad one at that. The number of non 3d films forced to become 3d reflect that fact and the sooner this shit goes away the happier I will be. I'm glad someone with the degree of clout in the film industry that ebert has was willing to say this so bluntly. Maybe someone will listen. |
I think Roger Ebert is an old coot who's quickly losing any relevance he might've once had.
I don't know whether 3D is going to catch on, but I have no problem with technological innovations.Go back 70 years and I bet you'd find some folks saying the exact same things about talkies. Boy were they a dumb fad! |
Fuck yeah, tell it like it is Ebert.
My son is 7. He doesn't like 3D. We went to see How to Train your Dragon, and he asked specifically to go to a 2D theater. We'll be doing the same for Toy Story 3. I REALLY hope that 3D television doesn't catch on. |
That article was spot on. They are ruining many movies with "fake 3d". However some do look fantastic, as he has pointed out.
Overall I think it is a fad and I really hope that it dies off before they start ruining all new movies. The theatre in the South of Calgary only plays 3d versions of the movies that are released with it. After getting stuck watching just how horrible Clash of the Titans was in 3d (wanted to see it in 2d, but that choice was not even offered) the number of movies that I see in the theatre will be greatly reduced. |
I agree with him in principle but if it's applied judiciously and correctly, I'm all for it.
In Avatar there was one quick shot where the camera tilted up to the sky before cutting to the next scene. In that moment, glimpsing the expanse of clouds, stars and moon (or two?) I truly had a sense of depth and reality and was fully immersed inside the projected world. Outright rejection of that potential would just be silly. |
I think 3d has a place, I just don't think it's as big of a market share as the marketers are hoping which could unfortunately kill the technology simply because they overestimated it's appeal. These aren't just Roger Ebert's opinions. They are factual, except for #8. I think a serious drama could be filmed in 3D. Hell, I think a serious drama NEEDS to be filmed in 3D without any gimmicky "pop off the screen" effects that EVERY 3d film, including Avatar has utilized to show off the tech.
The big problem it's facing is that it's not just a flavor item for people that love it can enjoy while everyone else can casually ignore. 3d is a technology that almost everyone wants but can't enjoy because it's annoying as hell due to gimmicky 3d, poor technology, stupid glasses or because it makes them physically ill. If Avatar was a medication, it would have been pulled off the market because it made so many people sick. I'm not talking about eye strain which is obviously a sign that your eyes are seeing something unhealthy. I'm talking about pure on vomit inducing sickness. This is after seeing 1 movie. Imagine the people that didn't get sick the first time but will the 2nd or 3rd time. If it's anything like Simulator sickness, it'll happen and every time it happens, it's at least 1 customer lost. If it's a father of 2 that gets sick, count it as 3 customers lost. Quote:
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For the record I agree with Ebert to a large degree. I can see the value of 3D with such films as Avatar and the plethora of computer-animated films they're producing. But in terms of your standard drama, comedy, and even a lot of action films, I really don't see the appeal. |
I'm not saying anything of the sort. What I will be prepared to say is that modern 3D is in it's infancy, and making blanket statements regarding what it will/won't or can/can't do is, to borrow a term, fucktarded.
What strikes me as particularly bizarre is that he acknowledges in his very own essay that Avatar's 3D was well done, as well as noting that films where it wasn't as well done (Alice, Clash of the Titans) weren't originally intended to be 3D in the first place. It's hard to imagine your average modern drama being shot in 3D, sure. But it's hard to imagine a film like Fritz Lang's Metropolis, or any of Chaplin's comedies, with a soundtrack. That was more my point in bringing up that innovation; judging a technology by the works that predate it is a bit foolish, because they by definition are unable to demonstrate the impact the technology is capable of. For the record, I suspect 3D Titanic is going to be utter shit, but then I thought the 2 dimensional version was crap anyway. |
The studios' current drive for 3D is nothing more than a cash grab. Yes, there are creatives out there, like James Cameron and a few others, that want to use it to expand their craft and art. But, by and large (mostly large), this is about charging a premium on the ticket price.
Will it go somewhere and develop into something better than it is now? Perhaps. It will likely take a lot of new tech and a lot of (literal) head-aches for patrons. At present, I agree with Ebert. The tech isn't adding anything substantial to film. It is a gimmick not much greater, though certainly more expensive than the vibrating seats they had when the film Earthquake came out (you could really feel what the characters were feeling!). |
I agree 100% with Ebert. The thing that he doesn't mention though, is that a lot of these movies employ first-person shots, purely to facilitate either the "pop of the screen" effect, or to enhance the perspective. Now, when I watch 2D versions of 3D movies, I find myself running into those shots often, and its frustrating as hell, because the shot very often could have been better from a different angle. In my mind it just amounts to poor cinematography. The 2D Avatar suffers less from this - probably because Cameron is a skilled 3D director.
On another note, Clash of the titans was already a piss poor movie, made even worse by its attempt at 3D. . |
I think 3D can coexist with 2D. I don't really need ebert to tell me otherwise.
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A more serious question though: With the advent of 3D tv, how long before we see 3D pornos, and see cum spraying at our faces?
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3D is a misnomer anyways, I swear to god people don't even know what 3D means.
Until I can stand in the middle of the living room, and see something from the center with full 360 degree immersion, it is NOT 3D I'm talking star trek holodecks. Then we're talking. This shit is a overhyped mislabeled fad. |
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The first greatest was watching How the West Was Won on 3-strip Cinerama - a short-lived and extremely expensive widescreen process requiring a triple camera, three projectors and a huge curved screen - at a widescreen festival a few years ago. This is a film that I wouldn't even bother trying to watch on a television: the whole point of it is spectacle and it would look very sad and puny on a small screen. The fact that, looked at objectively as a film, it is a pretty pedestrian and derivative Western, is irrelevant. Re the cinema, spectacle is all-important. The cinema is and always was inherently spectacular. Ebert is right because 3D doesn't really make a film more spectacular. To keep people in the cinemas and out of their homes the industry needs to look at what truly does make people gasp in amazement. Since reading about it just now I really really really want and need to see a MaxiVision film. Something shot like this on a large high-def format like IMAX (65mm or 70mm vs the standard 35mm), projected at 48 fps onto a huge screen cannot be anything but spectacular. Samsara is due for release this year. It's a non-narrative film and hardly anyone will see it but if my facts are straight it's only the second feature-length film to be shot entirely on Imax-size film. The first, Samsara's prequel Baraka (by the same director, Ron Fricke, who DPed the wonderous Koyaanisqatsi) is apparently a favourite of Roger Ebert, who said of its Blu-Ray release : "the finest video disc I have ever viewed or ever imagined." |
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Translation: I'm old and don't want to adapt.
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P.S. I'm not kidding - check out wikipedia. 3D is 120 years old! |
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Past iterations have little to do with current technology or availability. |
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Polarized 3D projection combined with digital filming, projection and editing techniques is light years ahead of what was available 120, or even 60 years ago. I would go so far as to say that these technologies are instrumental to an optimum 3D experience, which is why we're seeing another resurgence.
Mr. Ebert's argument seems to be that because past great films were not made in 3D future films shouldn't be either. This is akin, to me, to arguing that because some of the great animated films of the past were produced by hand, CGI is a useless gimmick. The part of the article that strikes me as particularly bizarre is that he acknowledges that great directors like Scorcese and Herzog are likely to use it well, and that Cameron did a good job on Avatar; he's praising the technology here even as he tells us how useless it is. The whole thing, once you parse out the 'I hate 3D' vibe, amounts to shitty films are shitty. Thank you, Rog, I never would've realized. I also find it odd that he presents something like Maxivision as an alternative to 3D cinema, as if 3D and higher framerates are somehow incompatible. As an aside, I watched How To Train Your Dragon in 3D, and can't imagine what it's like without the technology. No doubt I'll catch it in 2 dimensions eventually, and I have a feeling that it'll seem lacking in comparison. This was a film done from the ground up in 3D by a highly regarded animation studio; in other words, 3D done right. So there. |
Okay, so a 3-D option is fine for kids movies, animation, action, adventure, thrillers, horrors, certain documentaries, and other fun-fun sort of films.
But when it comes to drama, I could see it as a distraction and it being unnecessary, adding nothing as Ebert claims. Of course, I myself see film as a kind of derivative of storytelling already. I don't see why we should make it worse. Then again, I'd like to add that if the 3-D experience can be made more seamless (say, as realistic holographic images not requiring glasses), then I can see it being more acceptable in general. It would make film more akin to seeing a stage play in terms of "3-Dness." There's nothing wrong with the third dimension in my view; it just shouldn't be an unnecessary distraction. |
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