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ShaniFaye 08-30-2009 07:51 AM

Survivor Samoa
 
Premiers Sept 17th

Meet the cast
Survivor: Watch Episodes and Video and Join the Ultimate Fan Community - CBS.com

Ashley Trainer (22)
Hometown: Maple Grove, Minn.
Occupation: Spa Sales

Ben Browning (28)
Hometown: Los Angeles, Calif.
Occupation: Mixologist

Betsy Bolan (48)
Hometown: Campton, N.H.
Occupation: Police Officer

Brett Clouser (23)
Hometown: Los Angeles, Calif.
Occupation: T-Shirt Designer

Dave Ball (38)
Hometown: Los Angeles, Calif
Occupation: Fitness Instructor

Elizabeth Kim (33)
Hometown: New York, N.Y.
Occupation: Attorney

Erik Cardona (28)
Hometown: Ontario, Calif
Occupation: Bartender

Jaison Robinson (28)
Hometown: Chicago, Ill.
Occupation: Law Student

John Fincher (25)
Hometown: Los Angeles, Calif.
Occupation: Rocket Scientist (Im sure the jokes will be abounding)

Kelly Sharbaugh (25)
Hometown: Los Angeles, Calif.
Occupation: Hairstylist

Laura Morett (39)
Hometown: Salem, Ore.
Occupation: Office Manager

Marisa Calihan (26)
Hometown: Cincinnati, Ohio
Occupation: Student

Mick Trimming (33)
Hometown: Los Angeles, Calif.
Occupation: Doctor

Mike Borassi (62)
Hometown: Marina del Rey, Calif
Occupation: Personal Chef

Monica Padilla (25)
Hometown: San Diego, Calif.
Occupation: Law Student

Natalie White (26)
Hometown: Van Buren, Ark.
Occupation: Pharmaceutical Sales

Russell Hantz (36)
Hometown: Dayton, Texas
Occupation: Oil Company Owner

Russell Swan (42)
Hometown: Glenside, Pa.
Occupation: Attorney

Shannon Waters (45)
Hometown: Renton, Wash.
Occupation: Sales

Yasmin Giles (33)
Hometown: Los Angeles, Calif.
Occupation: Hairstylist


Someeye candy this season in Kelly and Natalie, but I think Marisa is really cute

Fremen 08-30-2009 10:34 AM

Looks good. Can't wait. Need my fix. Thanks, Shani. :thumbsup:

Has anyone here ever known any of the cast in past episodes before they were on Survivor, besides the semi-celebrities planted?

Lasereth 08-30-2009 11:12 AM

Let's do it!!!!!!!!!!!!

ShaniFaye 09-17-2009 09:47 AM

Just a bump up, tonite is the premier!!!

kutulu 09-17-2009 01:13 PM

The producers got some nice eye candy this season!

I'm really excited about the new shows starting tonight. In addition to this there is Bones, The Office, Community, and Always Sunny In Philadelphia.

Lasereth 09-17-2009 06:34 PM

Well I already know who I'm pulling for (Russell).

Derwood 09-17-2009 07:58 PM

Russell is doing what I always hoped someone would do, which is to lie about absolutely everything all the time and see how far it gets you.

Unfortunately, the early collateral damage was an awfully cute hippy chick who I would have liked to stick around a while longer

warrrreagl 09-17-2009 08:23 PM

Don't forget my special Survivor Drinking Game - you have to take a drink everytime someone says "chopping block" or "day one."

Grancey 09-17-2009 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fremen (Post 2696101)
Has anyone here ever known any of the cast in past episodes before they were on Survivor, besides the semi-celebrities planted?

One of the contestants from the most recent Survivor lives and works in my hometown.

Lasereth 09-18-2009 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warrrreagl (Post 2705140)
Don't forget my special Survivor Drinking Game - you have to take a drink everytime someone says "chopping block" or "day one."

Do you want me to call the ambulance now or later?

Fremen 09-18-2009 04:47 AM

Epic first episode! Russell is evil! :thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grancey (Post 2705144)
One of the contestants from the most recent Survivor lives and works in my hometown.

Have you met him/her?

Leto 09-18-2009 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kutulu (Post 2704955)
The producers got some nice eye candy this season!

I'm really excited about the new shows starting tonight. In addition to this there is Bones, The Office, Community, and Always Sunny In Philadelphia.

and... they get rid of the prettiest eye candy on the first night. :grumpy:

Derwood 09-18-2009 06:43 AM

Just read Probst's first blog entry. He loves Evil Russell. Interestingly, the comments afterward are full of people saying they won't watch the show if it focuses on Russell every week. He already seems to be polarizing viewers

Lasereth 09-18-2009 07:44 AM

Oh my god how can people hate him. He's freaking hilarious. The Katrina/dog story had me in tears. Plus when he put the sock in the fire and dumped the water out...and then he goes around camp saying Marissa is next, and there ya go, she's gone. A+++ would watch again

Daval 09-18-2009 08:41 AM

its gonna be interesting for sure. But if that motherf**ker gets rid of all the eye candy I'll be pissed.

Derwood 09-18-2009 09:02 AM

He will.....or else he'll try. I don't understand it, though....why make fake alliances with all these hot girls if you're just going to vote them out? Wouldn't it be smarter to rally the women around him to get rid of the strong guys?

Either way, I don't think he'll last. The female cop is already onto him, and he's going to lose his temper or someone will catch him sabotaging the camp and the whole tribe will turn on him.

kutulu 09-18-2009 09:31 AM

I absolutely hate Russel but I want to see how long he can last. I could feel better about him if he wasn't such a total asshole. It isn't cool to fuck with the water supply like that.

Leto 09-18-2009 10:15 AM

I'm with you guys. I like Russel, he doesn't need the money, but will play the game as a game. Good on him. But I sure hope he doesn't get rid of all those women first... the game would get awfully boring with just dudes.

Lasereth 09-18-2009 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kutulu (Post 2705335)
It isn't cool to fuck with the water supply like that.

I think it's actually absolutely great that he did. Now they actually have to Survive on Survivor instead of being given everything they need like usual. Plus, we're watching the show to be entertained, and watching people struggle through a water shortage IS entertaining. Way more than watching people argue for 20 minutes over who they should vote for.

Leto 09-18-2009 12:17 PM

it's about time the game was played like a game.

mrklixx 09-18-2009 04:18 PM

IMO, the sock thing should have got him booted off the show. The water thing, no big deal, they can get more water. Being a dick, no big deal, because eventually these people will have to vote for him if he expects to win. But theft and destruction of private property should fall under the same rules that would get him booted if he assaulted someone. And before anyone says "it was just socks", they could have been given to the guy by his dying grandma as a "good luck" gift, who knows. And "playing a game" does not give someone free reign to commit criminal acts.

Also, I haven't been able to find any proof that he owns anything. Every single search merely sites the survivor bio as an "oil company owner". Not a single mention of him in a business journal or trade publication. You would think that a "multi-millionaire" would have some information available. I'm thinking that the other "castaways" aren't the only ones he's lying to.

warrrreagl 09-18-2009 09:19 PM

Russell will appeal to the junior high, faceplant-video crowd who enjoy and thrive off anarchy for the fuck of it. At some point he will probably talk one of the other Survivors into eating a raw hot pepper, and CBS will show the screaming contestant's reaction in super slo-mo, and it will go viral on YouTube.

Fremen 09-18-2009 10:03 PM

Ashley was on to Russell, like the cop lady is.

ShaniFaye 10-01-2009 08:48 AM

Ok, say what you want about Russell...he found the freaking idol with NO clues, thats pretty impressive

I was not at all impressed with Yasmin's little speech last week, and I was sad to see Betsy go :(

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Coach has a blog going for this season

Blogs - Survivor - CBS.com

Cynthetiq 10-01-2009 08:50 AM

not really part of this discussion, but apparently a friend of mine was crew on this over the summer, I believe he was a cameraman. he's been filling me in on what happened from the tsunami that hit the other day.

ShaniFaye 10-01-2009 09:00 AM

Yes, I was reading about the fact some of the crew was still there because Season 20 is being filmed there too

Lasereth 10-02-2009 04:55 AM

Last night's episode was great. I can't believe there's no discussion of getting rid of Russel H.

I really like Jaison and I'm glad Ben got the boot. That tribal council last night was intense.

Cimarron29414 10-02-2009 05:20 AM

Russell is starting to have to compromise. It will be interesting to see if he can get back to controlling every element of his tribe.

Derwood 10-02-2009 05:56 AM

Russell's biggest problem right now is that he's potentially fucked come merge time (though he'll likely turn his back on his own tribe without thought if it keeps him with the numbers)

Lasereth 10-24-2009 11:36 AM

Last episode was really good. Man I thought Russell was screwed. His eyes were open but man he was out.

Good season so far.

Lasereth 11-13-2009 05:01 AM

WOWWWWWWWWW what an episode last night. Good god.

Grancey 11-13-2009 09:27 AM

This last episode is how to play the game. It was one of the top Survivor episodes, ever.

kutulu 11-20-2009 08:52 AM

This is turning out to be one of the best survivor seasons ever. Russel might screw it up but right now that 4 man team could go all the way.

Fremen 11-20-2009 04:38 PM

Great past couple of episodes!

Could there possibly be some validity to Russell's assertion that the rest of them are stupid and he's going to win?
That's three immunities in a row!

Lasereth 11-20-2009 04:54 PM

This season is fucking awesome. Russell is FTW.

Redjake 11-20-2009 05:10 PM

This is my first season of watching the show. Russell makes this show immensely entertaining. I haven't looked forward to a show as much as this in a long time!

I didn't realize this show was so much about strategy.

ShaniFaye 12-01-2009 07:23 AM

I've been avoiding the thread cause I havent been watching...with Dave gone I recorded them and didnt want to watch them twice, so I just got caught up last nite.

Best.Season.Ever

If Russell doesnt win Im going to be crushed. The look on all their faces at the tribal where Kelly was voted out was AWESOME

Daval 12-01-2009 07:35 AM

I agree with you. I'd like to see him win AND win fan favourite. If he does not win at least one of those two it will be an injustice.

kutulu 12-01-2009 08:08 AM

I'd like to see him win but I think his luck will run out soon. It's funny, I couldn't stand him at first but week after week he keeps impressing me. Win or lose, he's already proven himself to be one of the best Survivor players ever.

telekinetic 12-01-2009 09:40 AM

I think we need to keep an eye on Natalie. I think she has a lot more connections behind the scenes than they are showing, as she was able to get everyone to vote Erik, and hasn't seriously been on the chopping block when Russell was available. I feel like Russell really will take her to the final 2 if he is able, at which point it's a tossup. Russell isn't so short sited to have not been securing votes, but I doubt he's got much support other than the "Good job player, play on" kind, which isn't always enough to win the vote. I think Natalie can probably focus more on the social aspect then the strategy aspect, and have more votes lined up, especially among the girls.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaniFaye (Post 2710959)
Yes, I was reading about the fact some of the crew was still there because Season 20 is being filmed there too

If you've liked this season, I have a big spoiler about next season:

Spoiler: Season 20 is an all-star season, Villains vs Heroes, and Russell H is on Season 20 as well, and supposedly gets a lot of screen time there as well. They are done with filming which means Russ had the advantage of noone he is playing with having seen any of his episodes, whereas he has watched all of theirs

ShaniFaye 12-01-2009 09:44 AM

ooooo where did you get that info? Awesome!

telekinetic 12-01-2009 10:01 AM

Survivor has a more active spoiler and speculation community than any other reality show. There is already not only a cast list but a confirmed boot order list posted for Season 20 on several prominent spoiler sites! I don't know anything else spoilery about this season, though, other than obvious stuff like who the next few boots probably are:

For now, Spoiler: Mr rocket scientist john is designated as the next boot.

There is some speculation as to how the heck we are going to drop the numbers we need to drop by the Finale on the 20th. There are only 3 more episodes before the Finale, and we have to drop 4 people to get down to a final 5, unless they are going to try a Final 6 going into the last episode, and then do 3 challenges and tribal councils to get down to Final 3.

My speculation about Natalie is just that, speculation based on their edits, but I do think she has a shot at winning.

ShaniFaye 12-01-2009 10:07 AM

Yeah....its been awhile since I visited any of the community sites....Im doing it now though!!

The thing I hate though, I think if the "most popular" person actually wins, the money should go to the 2nd most popular

telekinetic 12-03-2009 10:23 PM

Dang...Shambo is gonna be PISSED!!!

Lasereth 12-04-2009 05:54 AM

Yeah Russell may have just screwed himself over. I understand his decision, and I definitely think that John caught him totally off guard and basically forced him into admitted he had the idol, but not telling Shambo what was going on was a baaad move.

Leto 12-04-2009 05:58 AM

I need shambo to leave. She bugs me. Glad to see the expression on her face at the vote.

kutulu 12-04-2009 07:48 AM

They just need to cut ties with Shambo soon. Foa Foa needs to be sure that no Galu make it to the finals (Shambo excluded).

Derwood 12-04-2009 07:50 AM

It was risky, but Russell needed to reassert control. It sends a message to Shambo that she is NOT in charge. I think her "swing vote" power was going to her head

Lasereth 12-04-2009 08:12 AM

Well he could still have asserted his power and told her about it. But blindsiding him without saying anything to her may cause trust issues. Russell says his best alliance is Natalie but I'm not so sure. Shambo goes with him most of the time.

Ananas 12-05-2009 04:26 PM

Shambo has dodged a full clip this series (1st episode, the two men getting injured resulting in no tribal council meetings, the merging of tribes just in the nick of time; everyone temporarily forgot about Shambo playing Chicken Whisperer; riding Russell's votes against her enemies, etc.) Otherwise, she's clueless.

Natalie would easily win final against Russell because most of her former tribe is sitting on the jury, as of now. Some of his tribe members will be joining soon, but Russell will have to be part of voting them out- and that won't be pretty- so he stands to lose some of those potential votes, too.

He's made this series watchable and enjoyable.:thumbsup:

Derwood 12-12-2009 08:12 AM

I've said it before, I'll say it again.....one of the best seasons ever

telekinetic 12-12-2009 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ananas (Post 2736580)
Natalie would easily win final against Russell because most of her former tribe is sitting on the jury, as of now. Some of his tribe members will be joining soon, but Russell will have to be part of voting them out- and that won't be pretty- so he stands to lose some of those potential votes, too.

Natalie and Russell were both Foa Foa, are you thinking of Monica?

Speaking of, I like how they managed to make a fairly tense action-packed drama-filled episode, the results of which were kicking off Dave and Monica exactly like I thought they were going to do when it was obvious Foa Foa had the numbers. Whole lot of drama for nothing...oh well, it was exciting, and I'm glad they didn't string it out over two episodes, this no-brainer was the perfect two-fer.

Ananas 12-12-2009 06:20 PM

^ D'oh. Right you are.

Lasereth 12-18-2009 06:12 AM

Good god how is Russell still in the game.

If they don't get rid of Brett he'll win the whole thing after doing nothing the entire season. They need to win immunity next time or Foa Foa is done for.

Redjake 12-18-2009 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth (Post 2740570)
Good god how is Russell still in the game.

If they don't get rid of Brett he'll win the whole thing after doing nothing the entire season. They need to win immunity next time or Foa Foa is done for.

Yes, Brett has this in the bag if they don't get rid of him immediately.

Fremen 12-18-2009 08:53 PM

I agree, it'd suck to have the pretty boy win at the last minute.

That said, damn, I was kinda getting used to Shamwow and her mop.
Oh well, now the race is heated, and we'll see what Russell's really made of.

Btw, he had brass ones in not playing the idol last night.

Redjake 12-20-2009 07:15 PM

wow they are fucked..........Brett just won 1st immunity in finale.

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hahahahahahaha holy shit. Russell won the second immunity. Bye bye Brett.

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Russell's opening statement was the best. I really hope they don't give the money to the other two. He is simply the best player there, hands down. "may the best man win" = truth.

Russell deserves this 100%.

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Natalie won. I'm literally not watching this show anymore. This show is stupid. This is my first season of Survivor and is now my last.

Any show where the best person in the entire game loses doesn't capture my viewing.

Lasereth 12-20-2009 08:04 PM

Yeah that was pretty stupid.

I think that what happens in the game and what they show on TV is two different things though. They show Russell being a power player, and he was, but I also think they edited the show to make viewers believe that the other players respected him, when they didn't. He never had a chance at winning because he screwed over everybody in the game basically and didn't hide it. Russell was pretty much the only player that made the show interesting this season and they capitalized on it, making him seem like an unstoppable force when in reality the other players never thought anything of him as they were voted off. It kills me to see Erik cheering whenever Russell fucked over people, but when it comes down to the vote, he didn't vote for him.

He still deserved the win 100% though. At least Jeff even said that he should have won ha ha ha ha ha. Natalie winning is as bad as Parvati winning.

Ananas 12-20-2009 08:34 PM

:thumbsdown: Robbery, pure and simple.

I wish there was something that could be done about the jury system on the show because this one sucked as much as the series would have without Russell.

Lasereth 12-20-2009 08:43 PM

I'm actually not that upset about him losing because at least he made it to the end with his strategy. Some seasons, none of the people who made it to the end did anything in the whole damn show. It's really awesome that the Foa Foa 4 did what they did. Also I would have raged way harder if Brett made it to the end because he would have won.

kutulu 12-20-2009 10:35 PM

That's just how the game goes. You can't worry about the final outcome, just how they got there. Yes it was a huge dose of bitter jury syndrome but winning the jury is the ultimate goal. Galu was the biggest bunch of chumps out there, how can you really expect those babies to vote for the guy that exposed their stupidity?

Fremen 12-21-2009 03:15 AM

I'm glad Russell was awarded the $100,000 popular vote, but he really screwed himself at the end out of the million. He was bragging too much.

'Course, that's Russell, no holds-barred.

--

Anybody know when the Villains -vs- Heroes is? I missed the date.

Daval 12-21-2009 05:29 AM

February 11th. Hopefully Russell does better in that Season. He got robbed this time :(

mrklixx 12-21-2009 08:18 AM

I think that Russell, using his Russell-like ways, found out beforehand who the winner was, because he seemed pissed off even before they announced the winner, and he didn't seem the least bit surprised.

Also, did anybody else think that Erik seemed like he was totally drunk on the final tribal council?

Lasereth 12-21-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrklixx (Post 2741664)
I think that Russell, using his Russell-like ways, found out beforehand who the winner was, because he seemed pissed off even before they announced the winner, and he didn't seem the least bit surprised.

Oh yeah he definitely knew.

Lasereth 12-21-2009 11:36 AM

Good god the internet is a raging hate machine today over Russell losing. CBS will have to do something to calm the tide (like when they gave Rupert $1,000,000 just because people loved him). I don't know what they can do but man people are seriously raging.

Derwood 01-06-2010 08:46 AM

I have nothing to back this up, but I think Russell was doubly pissed because he probably didn't last long in Villains vs. Heroes. He looked to be in bad shape at the finale, most likely because he just got back from the V vs. H taping. Like Amanda, he had to play the 2nd season before finding out if he won the first one. Unlike Amanda, I don't think he made it to the end both times.

Again, pure speculation. Can't wait to see it unfold next month.

mrklixx 01-06-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derwood (Post 2745704)
I have nothing to back this up, but I think Russell was doubly pissed because he probably didn't last long in Villains vs. Heroes. He looked to be in bad shape at the finale, most likely because he just got back from the V vs. H taping. Like Amanda, he had to play the 2nd season before finding out if he won the first one. Unlike Amanda, I don't think he made it to the end both times.

I had the exact same speculation upon watching the finale. I'm betting that Russel in a group of like-minded connivers will not last very long at all.

telekinetic 01-06-2010 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derwood (Post 2745704)
I have nothing to back this up, but I think Russell was doubly pissed because he probably didn't last long in Villains vs. Heroes. He looked to be in bad shape at the finale, most likely because he just got back from the V vs. H taping. Like Amanda, he had to play the 2nd season before finding out if he won the first one. Unlike Amanda, I don't think he made it to the end both times.

Again, pure speculation. Can't wait to see it unfold next month.

I'm going to take a different interpretation. If he was in bad shape, he probably went the distance in VvsH, or he'd be all relaxed from chilling in Ponderosa, if he even made it THAT far.

Also, I think he's bent out of shape, because he thought his technique would win season 19, and therefore he probably played season 20 the same way. Noone on Season 20 knows what a player he is, whereas he could theoretically have watched all of their seasons, and know their 'tricks'. I bet he makes it to the top 3 in season 20 also, and is mostly pissed because he is just now finding out that his 'fuck everyone, they'll vote for me out of respect for my gameplay' strategy is not a winning one, after two iterations of it.

Derwood 01-06-2010 03:27 PM

that too is a good theory (kind of like how Amanda's "mastermind the moves but take none of the credit" theory blew up in her face twice)


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