Heath Ledger found dead in NYC at age 28 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Dammitall · 01-22-2008, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The New York Times

Actor Heath Ledger Is Found Dead

By Sewell Chan

The actor Heath Ledger was found dead this afternoon in an apartment building at 421 Broome Street in SoHo, according to the New York City police. Mr. Ledger was 28.

At 3:31 p.m., a masseuse arrived at Apartment 5A in the building for an appointment with Mr. Ledger, the police said. The masseuse was let in to the home by a housekeeper, who then knocked on the door of Mr. Ledger’s bedroom. When no one answered, the housekeeper and the masseuse opened the bedroom and found Mr. Ledger unconscious. They shook him, but he did not respond. They immediately called the authorities. The police said they did not suspect foul play and said they found pills near body.

Mr. Ledger, a native of Perth, Australia, won acclaim for his role as a co-star in “Brokeback Mountain”, a 2005 film. The film, based on a short story by Annie Proulx about two cowboys who fall in love, won critical acclaim. Reviewing the film in The New York Times, the critic Stephen Holden wrote, “Mr. Ledger magically and mysteriously disappears beneath the skin of his lean, sinewy character. It is a great screen performance, as good as the best of Marlon Brando and Sean Penn.”

Calls by The New York Times to Mara Buxbaum, a publicist for Mr. Ledger, and Steve Alexander, the actor’s agent, were not immediately returned this afternoon.

Thomas J. Lueck contributed reporting.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...is-found-dead/

snowy · 01-22-2008, 02:03 PM

Yeah, I just caught this on CNN. Quite a surprise. My mom will be disappointed.

Arc101 · 01-22-2008, 02:10 PM

He was a good actor, and I'm sure would have made many good movies and brought enjoyment to many more people. I am sorry to hear about this, and really hope it was not drugs which caused his death.

Dammitall · 01-22-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Arc101

He was a good actor, and I'm sure would have made many good movies and brought enjoyment to many more people. I am sorry to hear about this, and really hope it was not drugs which caused his death.

I have a feeling he was just at the beginning of a really fantastic run. It's a great loss to Hollywood.

Willravel · 01-22-2008, 02:18 PM

Oh my god. Totally unexpected.

spindles · 01-22-2008, 02:20 PM

yep - gobsmacked here.

allaboutmusic · 01-22-2008, 02:29 PM

I didn't see that one coming. I remember enjoying the movies I saw with him in them. RIP.

Tully Mars · 01-22-2008, 02:34 PM

Ditto all that. Completely blindsided by the news.

MexicanOnABike · 01-22-2008, 02:36 PM

too bad. now they'll have to find someone else to do the joker in the following batman movies.

Willravel · 01-22-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MexicanOnABike

too bad. now they'll have to find someone else to do the joker in the following batman movies.

If I were Noalan, I'd write in a magnificent and honorable exit for the character as a tribute to Leger.

Plan9 · 01-22-2008, 02:47 PM

That mountain really did break his back.

*rimshot*

abaya · 01-22-2008, 03:03 PM

We just saw him as one of the Bob Dylan characters in I'M NOT THERE, last week... feels really eery. Shocked and disappointed here... he was definitely going somewhere with his career. If it was drug-related, though... then that's just such a stupid waste.

YaWhateva · 01-22-2008, 03:04 PM

I feel so bad, he was one of my favorite young actors. Such a horrible waste of talent.

blktour · 01-22-2008, 03:09 PM

HOLY Left field! RIP.

Halx · 01-22-2008, 03:11 PM

I just need to know that he's done filming Dark Knight and I'll be OK.

Frosstbyte · 01-22-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

If I were Noalan, I'd write in a magnificent and honorable exit for the character as a tribute to Leger.

I don't see any reason for Nolan to spend any time making a magnificent tribute to an actor who had literally everything going for him and tossed it away on a high. Particularly because it leaves him in the possibly gross situation of having to cast someone else and re-film an entire movie or rewrite the ending or any number of other crazy and inconvenient changes. I really hope he'd already finished filming his scenes for "The Dark Knight".

Important safety tip: Drugs can kill you. And if you're too stupid to not use them either in moderation or not at all, the only regret I'll have is that you didn't get to make more movies to entertain me.

Don't get me wrong, I thought Ledger was a great actor with a promising future. He's in some of my favorite movies and I love his dynamic on screen, but I'm not going to spend any time being upset by his death, because he had complete control over it and chose (either deliberately or through negligence) to kill himself. I didn't see this coming and I think it's a tragic loss to the entertainment community, but I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for him. Maybe I'm just a callous ass. I'm ok with that.

Lasereth · 01-22-2008, 03:33 PM

Pretty messed up. I hope The Dark Knight was done filming his scenes.

Whenever I thought of him I thought of him being one of the next great actors of my generation. I guess we'll never see that now. His career was about to explode.

Typical drug overdose scenario. Can't believe someone as fortunate as him would waste a life away like that. No amount of pain, misery, or depression is worth taking your own life.

Hain · 01-22-2008, 03:35 PM

His face seems wrong in this picture [not a picture of him as the Joker].

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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte

I don't see any reason for Nolan to spend any time making a magnificent tribute to an actor who had literally everything going for him and tossed it away on a high.

I sure does look like an overdose... but hey! We live in a crazy world. They are investigating it as an overdose but we never know until enough of those men in the white coats cut him up and figure out what went wrong piece by piece.

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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte

Particularly because it leaves him in the possibly gross situation of having to cast someone else and re-film an entire movie or rewrite the ending or any number of other crazy and inconvenient changes.

I bring The Crow with Brandon Lee to everyone's attention at this time. That still turned out great- one of my favorite movies of all time.

ngdawg · 01-22-2008, 03:46 PM

Total shock....what a waste of a young talent...

YaWhateva · 01-22-2008, 03:47 PM

The Dark Knight has been finished filming for awhile now, it's in post production so nothing has to be re-filmed. For the 3rd movie things will have to be changed around but The Dark Knight will not be effected by this. A great actor gave his life away. Is it possible that he may have gotten too drawn into his role for his new film The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus? I know he takes his roles in film extremely seriously, like his portrayal of The Joker where spent a lot of time alone in a hotel room in order to write and read about the Joker and get his character perfect. I know thats a weird conspiracy-type theory but I thought I would throw it out there.

KellyC · 01-22-2008, 03:48 PM

http://omg.yahoo.com/heath-ledger-fo...e-28/news/5898

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NEW YORK - Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday at a downtown Manhattan apartment, naked in bed with sleeping pills nearby, police said. The Australian-born actor was 28. It wasn't immediately clear if Ledger had committed suicide.

He had an appointment for a massage at a residence in the tony neighborhood of SoHo, NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said. A housekeeper who went to let him know the massage therapist had arrived found him dead at 3:26 p.m.

A large crowd of paparazzi and gawkers gathered outside the building on an upscale block. Ledger's body was still inside, and several police officers guarded the door.

The medical examiner's office planned an autopsy Wednesday, spokeswoman Ellen Borakove said.

While not a marquee movie star, Ledger was a respected, award-winning actor who chose his roles carefully rather than cashing in on his heartthrob looks. He was nominated for an Oscar for his performance as a gay cowboy in "Brokeback Mountain," where he met Michelle Williams, who played his wife in the film. The two had a daughter, Matilda, and lived together in Brooklyn until they split up last year.

Ledger most recently appeared in "I'm Not There," in which he played one of the many incarnations of Bob Dylan ƒƒ‚‚ as did Cate Blanchett, whose performance in that film earned an Oscar nomination Tuesday for best supporting actress.

Ledger had finished filming his role as the Joker this year in "The Dark Knight," a sequel to 2005's "Batman Begins."

He's had starring roles in "A Knight's Tale" and "The Patriot," and played the suicidal son of Billy Bob Thornton in "Monster's Ball." He also played a heroin addict in the 2006 Australian film "Candy."

Before settling down with Williams, Ledger had relationships with actresses Heather Graham and Naomi Watts. He met Watts while working on "The Lords of Dogtown," a fictionalized version of a cult classic skateboarding documentary, in 2004.

Ledger was born in 1979 in Perth, in western Australia, to a mining engineer and a French teacher, and got his first acting role playing Peter Pan at age 10 at a local theater company. He began acting in independent films as a 16-year-old in Sydney and played a cyclist hoping to land a spot on an Olympic team in a 1996 television show, "Seat."

After several independent films, Ledger moved to Los Angeles at age 19 and co-starred opposite Julia Stiles in "10 Things I Hate About You," a teen comedy reworking of "The Taming of the Shrew."

Offers for other teen flicks soon came his way, but Ledger turned them down, preferring to remain idle than sign on for projects he didn't like.

"It wasn't a hard decision for me," Ledger told the Associated Press in 2001. "It was hard for everyone else around me to understand. Agents were like, 'You're crazy,' my parents were like, 'Come on, you have to eat.'"

His movie career caught on anyway, culminating with his Academy Award nomination opposite Jake Gyllenhaal in "Brokeback."

"Dark Knight" director Christopher Nolan said earlier this month that Ledger's performance as the Joker would be wildly different than Jack Nicholson's memorable turn in 1989's "Batman."

"It was a very great challenge for Heath," Nolan said. "He's extremely original, extremely frightening, tremendously edgy. A very young character, a very anarchic presence that taps into a lot of our basic fears and panic."

RIP guy.

Jinn · 01-22-2008, 03:49 PM

looks like you got beat by one minute

spiderman · 01-22-2008, 03:51 PM

Wow! This is pretty surprising, although I had noticed Heath getting a little skinny lately. That said, I think there may be some 'gun jumping' going on. No one has said anything for sure on how he died, right?

Shauk · 01-22-2008, 03:51 PM

pwnt

i'm 28, thats all I have in common with this "event"

otherwise, don't care. I'm heartless.

KellyC · 01-22-2008, 03:51 PM

Doy!

Umm...thread close/merge, please?

ngdawg · 01-22-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spiderman

Wow! This is pretty surprising, although I had noticed Heath getting a little skinny lately. That said, I think there may be some 'gun jumping' going on. No one has said anything for sure on how he died, right?

According to the newswire I just read, a bottle of sleeping pills was found nearby his bed where he was found, but they will have to do an autopsy to find out if it was an overdose by accident, suicide or something else.

YaWhateva · 01-22-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spiderman

Wow! This is pretty surprising, although I had noticed Heath getting a little skinny lately. That said, I think there may be some 'gun jumping' going on. No one has said anything for sure on how he died, right?

CNN is saying that they found what appear to be sleeping pills all around him.

I saw a report of there being a 911 call at around 2:30 about a man going into cardiac arrest in the apartment building or hotel he was in, but no response was made until after he was found dead by his housekeeper. I don't know how reputable it is though.

PonyPotato · 01-22-2008, 04:08 PM

Shocking, yes, but I must say that I have little sympathy in this situation. As the sister of a drug addict, I am hardened to drug use.. he made a choice, and it was a bad one. Too bad he won't make any more films.

ShaniFaye · 01-22-2008, 04:14 PM

Its interesting they are saying it was OTC sleeping pills

I wasnt really a fan of his but this is indeed sad news on many fronts

mixedmedia · 01-22-2008, 04:18 PM

Thread has been merged.

This is a bummer.

PonyPotato · 01-22-2008, 04:34 PM

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...wRsbroU0BclsXA

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Originally Posted by AFP

The New York Times said Ledger was discovered by the housekeeper and a masseuse who arrived in the afternoon for an appointment.

They knocked on the door, but "when no one answered, the housekeeper and the masseuse opened the bedroom and found Mr. Ledger naked and unconscious on a bed. They shook him, but he did not respond," the Times said.

Both the New York Times and TMZ quoted officials as saying pills were found near the body, but gave no further details.

According to the newspaper, the apartment was inhabited by actor Mary-Kate Olsen.

This is the only article I've been able to find so far that touts the apartment as belonging to Mary Kate after I saw it being rumored on another forum.

She's at Sundance, I think.

Grasshopper Green · 01-22-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosstbyte

Don't get me wrong, I thought Ledger was a great actor with a promising future. He's in some of my favorite movies and I love his dynamic on screen, but I'm not going to spend any time being upset by his death, because he had complete control over it and chose (either deliberately or through negligence) to kill himself. I didn't see this coming and I think it's a tragic loss to the entertainment community, but I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for him. Maybe I'm just a callous ass. I'm ok with that.

Chalk me up as another callous ass. IMO, he was a pretty damn good actor and had a bright future and threw it all away...not to mention leaving his daughter fatherless. From what I've read, there were sleeping pills nearby, which would suggest suicide to me (unless people have started taking them for kicks). Perhaps I'm jumping the gun since there won't be a definitive answer until the autopsy, but I'm not feeling sympathy for him either.

mixedmedia · 01-22-2008, 05:17 PM

uh, I don't know, guys, I don't have any trouble mustering up some sympathy for people who kill themselves...all it takes is realizing that we are not all looking at the world through the same set of eyes.

Jove · 01-22-2008, 05:27 PM

This is all very unfortunate, since most of his films were pretty good.

Willravel · 01-22-2008, 05:31 PM

Are we really going to mock the dead in this thread?

thespian86 · 01-22-2008, 05:32 PM

wow. can't believe it.

PonyPotato · 01-22-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by willravel

Are we really going to mock the dead in this thread?

*points up* Crompsin started it.

jewels · 01-22-2008, 05:39 PM

Unbelievable. Totally unexpected, especially one so young and talented.

How sad.

World's King · 01-22-2008, 05:48 PM

Heath Ledger...

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Actor Heath Ledger is found dead

3 hours ago

NEW YORK (AFP) — Australian-born actor Heath Ledger, 28, the co-star of the Oscar-winning movie "Brokeback Mountain," was found dead in a New York residence on Tuesday, police said.

"Heath Ledger was found dead at 3:26 pm this afternoon," a police spokesperson said, saying he was found in an apartment in the posh district of Soho. "We don't know the cause of the death."

The entertainment website TMZ said Heath was discovered "face down on the floor" adding that "law enforcement sources ... believe it was not a crime."

The New York Times said Ledger was discovered by the housekeeper and a masseuse who arrived in the afternoon for an appointment.

They knocked on the door, but "when no one answered, the housekeeper and the masseuse opened the bedroom and found Mr. Ledger naked and unconscious on a bed. They shook him, but he did not respond," the Times said.

Both the New York Times and TMZ quoted officials as saying pills were found near the body, but gave no further details.

According to the newspaper, the apartment was inhabited by actor Mary-Kate Olsen.

Ledger, who was nominated for a best actor Oscar for his portrayal of a gay cowboy in the 2005 film "Brokeback Mountain," had separated from his former fiancee Michelle Williams in September. The pair, who met on the set of the Ang Lee-directed drama, have a two-year-old daughter, Matilda.

Lee had hailed Ledger's performance as a "miracle" of acting, reminiscent of a young Marlon Brando.

Ledger lost the Oscar for best actor in 2006 to Phillip Seymour Hoffman for his portrayal of author Truman Capote in "Capote," but "Brokeback Mountain" won three Academy Awards, including for best director.

The flaxen-haired heartthrob first came to prominence by acting as a homosexual athlete in little-known Australian soap opera "Sweat" in 1996. He played a gay cyclist in the teen soap, set at the Western Australian Institute of Sport that portrayed the lives of Olympic hopefuls.

The creator and writer of the series, John Rapsey, said it was clear even then that Ledger, then a 16-year-old sports champion and high school dropout, possessed an unusual talent.

"He himself had absolutely no problem playing the role. He handled all of that with great aplomb," Rapsey told AFP.

"What was noticeable about him was he was concentrated, very quiet, and you could see that he was really observant of other people."

Ledger, who has never attended acting school and who left his home state of Western Australia for Sydney as a teenager, credited his instincts with his success.

"The one thing that's got me to where I'm sitting is my instincts, you know, and I'm impatient. I didn't want to wait for years to work. I wanted to just get out there and do it," he said in an interview with an Australian television program in 2001.

At 19, Ledger left Sydney for Hollywood, where his standout talent was spotted by Mel Gibson when auditioning 500 actors for the role of his son in "The Patriot." The casting was Ledger's first big-time break and led to his leading role in "A Knight's Tale."

Gibson has described Ledger as possessing "the unknown factor" that "sort of lights up the screen".

Ledger continued his steady impact on Hollywood, with a small role in "Monster's Ball" (2001), followed by the lead in the lightweight "The Four Feathers" (2002), Australian drama "Ned Kelly" (2003) and "The Brothers Grimm" (2005).

At 26, the Australian was the youngest nominee for the best male actor category and the outside chance to take the statue away from fellow contenders Hoffman, David Strathairn, Joaquin Phoenix and Terrence Howard.

This month, Ledger had been working on his latest movie, "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus," directed by Terry Gilliam, which was due to be released next year. He also portrayed The Joker in a Batman movie called "Dark Knight" to be released later this year.

PonyPotato · 01-22-2008, 05:51 PM

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01-22-2008, 02:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
snowy Kick Ass Kunoichi Location: Oregon	Yeah, I just caught this on CNN. Quite a surprise. My mom will be disappointed. __________________ If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau

01-22-2008, 02:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
spindles Mine is an evil laugh Location: Sydney, Australia	yep - gobsmacked here. __________________ who hid my keyboard's PANIC button?

01-22-2008, 02:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Ditto all that. Completely blindsided by the news. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

01-22-2008, 02:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
MexicanOnABike Location: up north	too bad. now they'll have to find someone else to do the joker in the following batman movies. __________________ - Movie Reviews - Ratings-

01-22-2008, 02:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	That mountain really did break his back. *rimshot* __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

01-22-2008, 02:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Arc101 Addict Location: Nottingham, England	He was a good actor, and I'm sure would have made many good movies and brought enjoyment to many more people. I am sorry to hear about this, and really hope it was not drugs which caused his death.

01-22-2008, 02:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Oh my god. Totally unexpected.

01-22-2008, 02:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
allaboutmusic Aurally Fixated	I didn't see that one coming. I remember enjoying the movies I saw with him in them. RIP.

01-22-2008, 03:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
abaya Location: Iceland	We just saw him as one of the Bob Dylan characters in I'M NOT THERE, last week... feels really eery. Shocked and disappointed here... he was definitely going somewhere with his career. If it was drug-related, though... then that's just such a stupid waste. __________________ And think not you can direct the course of Love; for Love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course. --Khalil Gibran

01-22-2008, 03:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	I feel so bad, he was one of my favorite young actors. Such a horrible waste of talent. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

01-22-2008, 03:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
blktour Psycho Location: Anchorage, AK	HOLY Left field! RIP.

01-22-2008, 03:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	I just need to know that he's done filming Dark Knight and I'll be OK. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

01-22-2008, 03:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Pretty messed up. I hope The Dark Knight was done filming his scenes. Whenever I thought of him I thought of him being one of the next great actors of my generation. I guess we'll never see that now. His career was about to explode. Typical drug overdose scenario. Can't believe someone as fortunate as him would waste a life away like that. No amount of pain, misery, or depression is worth taking your own life.

01-22-2008, 03:46 PM	#19 (permalink)
ngdawg peekaboo Location: on the back, bitch	Total shock....what a waste of a young talent...

01-22-2008, 03:47 PM	#20 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	The Dark Knight has been finished filming for awhile now, it's in post production so nothing has to be re-filmed. For the 3rd movie things will have to be changed around but The Dark Knight will not be effected by this. A great actor gave his life away. Is it possible that he may have gotten too drawn into his role for his new film The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus? I know he takes his roles in film extremely seriously, like his portrayal of The Joker where spent a lot of time alone in a hotel room in order to write and read about the Joker and get his character perfect. I know thats a weird conspiracy-type theory but I thought I would throw it out there. __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!" Last edited by YaWhateva; 01-22-2008 at 03:57 PM..

01-22-2008, 03:49 PM	#22 (permalink)
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01-22-2008, 03:51 PM	#23 (permalink)
spiderman Rebourne - God, I love life, so, thanks! Location: Up your nose with a rubber hose	Wow! This is pretty surprising, although I had noticed Heath getting a little skinny lately. That said, I think there may be some 'gun jumping' going on. No one has said anything for sure on how he died, right? __________________ Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

01-22-2008, 03:51 PM	#24 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	pwnt i'm 28, thats all I have in common with this "event" otherwise, don't care. I'm heartless.

01-22-2008, 03:51 PM	#25 (permalink)
KellyC Comment or else!! Location: Home sweet home	Doy! Umm...thread close/merge, please? __________________ Him: Ok, I have to ask, what do you believe? Me: Shit happens.

01-22-2008, 04:08 PM	#28 (permalink)
PonyPotato Soaring Location: Ohio!	Shocking, yes, but I must say that I have little sympathy in this situation. As the sister of a drug addict, I am hardened to drug use.. he made a choice, and it was a bad one. Too bad he won't make any more films. __________________ "Without passion man is a mere latent force and possibility, like the flint which awaits the shock of the iron before it can give forth its spark." — Henri-Frédéric Amiel

01-22-2008, 04:14 PM	#29 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	Its interesting they are saying it was OTC sleeping pills I wasnt really a fan of his but this is indeed sad news on many fronts __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

01-22-2008, 04:18 PM	#30 (permalink)
mixedmedia has all her shots. Location: Florida	Thread has been merged. This is a bummer. __________________ Most people go through life dreading they'll have a traumatic experience. Freaks were born with their trauma. They've already passed their test in life. They're aristocrats. - Diane Arbus PESSIMISM, n. A philosophy forced upon the convictions of the observer by the disheartening prevalence of the optimist with his scarecrow hope and his unsightly smile. - Ambrose Bierce

01-22-2008, 05:17 PM	#33 (permalink)
mixedmedia has all her shots. Location: Florida	uh, I don't know, guys, I don't have any trouble mustering up some sympathy for people who kill themselves...all it takes is realizing that we are not all looking at the world through the same set of eyes. __________________ Most people go through life dreading they'll have a traumatic experience. Freaks were born with their trauma. They've already passed their test in life. They're aristocrats. - Diane Arbus PESSIMISM, n. A philosophy forced upon the convictions of the observer by the disheartening prevalence of the optimist with his scarecrow hope and his unsightly smile. - Ambrose Bierce

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Jove Groovy Hipster Nerd Location: Michigan	This is all very unfortunate, since most of his films were pretty good. Last edited by Jove; 01-23-2008 at 03:26 AM..

01-22-2008, 05:31 PM	#35 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	Are we really going to mock the dead in this thread?

01-22-2008, 05:32 PM	#36 (permalink)
thespian86 change is hard. Location: the green room.	wow. can't believe it. __________________ EX: Whats new? ME: I officially love coffee more then you now. EX: uh... ME: So, not much.

01-22-2008, 05:39 PM	#38 (permalink)
jewels Eponymous Location: Central Central Florida	Unbelievable. Totally unexpected, especially one so young and talented. How sad. __________________ We are always more anxious to be distinguished for a talent which we do not possess, than to be praised for the fifteen which we do possess. Mark Twain

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PonyPotato Soaring Location: Ohio!	This post can be deleted. __________________ "Without passion man is a mere latent force and possibility, like the flint which awaits the shock of the iron before it can give forth its spark." — Henri-Frédéric Amiel Last edited by PonyPotato; 01-22-2008 at 07:13 PM.. Reason: thread merge