Survivor 14: Fiji

[ShaniFaye]

ok the new season is getting ready to start and the survivors have been posted!!

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor14/

this is the first season with 19 million dollar chasers starting out

It premiers Feb 8th

We have 10 guys and 9 girls, ranging in age from 23 to 55, with 3 contestants being over 50 and 10 of them under the age of 30

If I remember right from the 13 finale, there will be 2 hidden immunity idols on exile and the camps will be very different.

[warrrreagl]

I'm excited about the new season and dismayed that they kept the hidden immunity idol schtick. The season is usually over in episode 3 when Bob Lucky Damn Ass finds the idol and throws Outwit-Outlast_Outplay right out the window.

[Ace_O_Spades]

Can we please have something new?

Like...

"This season on Survivor! ANTARCTICA!!! .... three people die... THIS SPRING!"

then cancel the show because it's getting tired.

[Derwood]

2 seasons of the hidden idol and it was never actually played in tribal council either season.

The number is 19 because one contestant dropped out the day before shooting started and they had no backup plan

[warrrreagl]

Aww, I was hoping it was "19" because The Gunslinger was going to be involved somehow. Roland, Eddie, Susannah, and Jake are the leaders of four separate tribes each trying to Outwit, Outlast, and Outplay the Crimson King. Ka has spoken.

I, for one, LOVE the show, and I don't feel compelled to jump on the obligatory reality-show-bash-wagon just yet. Thanks for the thread, Shani, and I pick the Southerner to win. Do you think maybe possibly they're hoping for a California winner this time (10 out the 19 from that one state)?

But you know I have to admit, CBS did do an open casting-call at our local mall for this season and only about a dozen people actually showed up. There were goofs who drove here for hours to get a good spot in line and I think there were seven people in line when it started.

[Miss Mango]

Im such a Survivor junkie. Im excited- whats the usual start number? It was 16 last season...

[Derwood]

it has been anywhere from 16 to 20. It was 20 last year (4 tribes of 5)

[micah67]

Tivo is awesome for Survivor. We refrain from watching any episodes until the last week then: SURVIVOR MARATHON!

It's pretty easy to avoid absorbing the ongoing knowledge of who went when as there is no reference - the names don't mean anything until you start watching (and I never remember).

[*Nikki*]

Oh I can't wait!!

[Mister Coaster]

***Bump***

Starts tonight, I'll be watching.

[ShaniFaye]

hell yeah!!!!! me too

[Daval]

woohoo. let the games begin!

[dirtyrascal7]

The "info" blurb on DirecTV says that they start out as one big tribe... that will be interesting! Hopefully they keep it that way for longer than just the first day... I thought last season they were too quick to merge the tribes from their different ethnic groups.

[ShaniFaye]

Can I just say I think it totally sucks that the person that was responsible for getting the "good" camp built, doesnt get to live in it <insert angry face>

[dirtyrascal7]

I'm pretty disappointed that they fell back into the standard two-tribe format so quickly. They keep throwing new twists into the game to try and keep things interesting, but they never let them play out long enough. I think it would make for a much more interesting season if they were one big tribe from start to finish... or at least let the two tribes live together at one camp.

And Shani, that thought crossed my mind, too... she automatically went to the "bad" camp no matter which team won, which to me is far worse than getting stuck on exile island for a couple days.

[Mister Coaster]

Well, due to the one girl dropping out literally minutes before the start of the game, I'm sure the producers had to scramble to figure out a new way to divide the tribes. Because I'd bet this was not their original plan.

Even though they were only one large tribe for 2 days, that's 2 days longer than ever before, I'm sure there was some networking going on that they didn't show on camera. Should be a good season.

[Daval]

I think that would be interesting as well, one big massive tribe, individual immunity the entire time.

In regards to the rich camp / poor camp - I hope from now on whoever wins reward gets to move into that camp and its not like this for the season.

interesting twist on the immunity as well, having it at the camp.

Rocky and Dreamz both annoyed the hell out of me and I hope they both go ASAP.

[*Nikki*]

Yeah that whole Rocky thing was pretty played out by the end of the hour

[Derwood]

i would bet money that the "resort" camp will always be for the winning tribe. No way they just permanently keep it this way.

Anyone wonder why Mark Burnett did this "winning camp/losing camp" thing on both Survivor AND The Aprentice this year?

[warrrreagl]

Originally Posted by Mister Coaster

Well, due to the one girl dropping out literally minutes before the start of the game, I'm sure the producers had to scramble to figure out a new way to divide the tribes.

So what's the story on the dropout?

[mrklixx]

Originally Posted by warrrreagl

So what's the story on the dropout?

Here's some info:

http://tinyurl.com/ysc4de

Too bad, she was a hottie too.

[Mister Coaster]

Alright someone please, for the love of Buddah's Belly, tell me how 8 people who have signed up for freakin' SURVIVOR didn't bother to learn how to make fire without a flint before getting to the island. It blows my mind.

Other than that frustrating point, not much happening in last night's episode. Although with Dreamz separated from Rocky, he seems like a cool guy with a unique prespective, having been homeless and all.

[warrrreagl]

Originally Posted by Mister Coaster

Alright someone please, for the love of Buddah's Belly, tell me how 8 people who have signed up for freakin' SURVIVOR didn't bother to learn how to make fire without a flint before getting to the island. It blows my mind.

What fun would that be? I think CBS only allows the inept and infirm to make it as finalists. If you prove to them that you are a great wilderness survivor, they say, "NEXT!"

For six years, Grancey and I have been wondering if anybody would ever be smart enough to use their glasses, and they ALMOST figured that out last night.

CBS can't take your glasses away from you, so it would be the perfect setup. Unless they give you a questionnaire - "Circle all the things it's possible to make fire from" - and if you circle "glasses" then you're out.

[ShaniFaye]

They tried to use a magnifying glass in Africa

[Mister Coaster]

warrrreagl, I guess that has to be the answer. Mrs. Coaster and I are always shouting at the TV at this point in the season about the lack of firemaking ability of the contestants.

Then there's last season's challenge at the end of the game to make fire WITH a flint, and the 2 girls couldn't do it in an hour. And the loser couldn't even do it WITH MATCHES!!! ARRRRRRGH!

[Fremen]

This is why I love you guys.
I shout and curse at the same things as you do.

Nobody ever burned paper or ants with glasses, or mag-glasses, as kids on that show???

Jeeze!

[Daval]

why the hell would you give up immunity when you are in the lead and losing a member ties you? pure stupidity, my god, I was stunned with that decision.

[Troublebot]

Yeah, I was pulling my hair out on this one too, but I think, in the long run, keeping the food, shelter and good nights sleep will keep them winning.

Rocky is working my last nerve. I agree with Earl, don't like the bed your in? Fix it.

[*Nikki*]

I would have kept the nice shelter and stuff over immunity also. That kinda thing pays off in the long run.

[Gilda]

Originally Posted by Derwood

2 seasons of the hidden idol and it was never actually played in tribal council either season.

It did, however play an important role last season, just by being in the hands of the right person, and that person revealing it at just the right time.

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The shelter vs. immunity thing was the classic question of short term benefit vs. long term benefit. People very often choose short term benefit even when they know there are long term consequences that will eventually outweigh those short term ones. Here, it really wasn't so clear that the long term consequences do this because there's a secondary effect of keeping the good camp--more food, better rest, more comfort may leave them in better condition to win challenges.

[Daval]

i understand the short vs. long term benefits idea, but, they had a substantial lead and lost two people in two days, I think they were silly allowing the other team to come up even.

[Mister Coaster]

I like Rocky, he is passionate, vocal and fun to watch, reminds me of Shane from a few seasons ago. However, the things that make him fun to watch on TV are going to get him voted off.

Now the teams may be even in numbers, but the one team still has the decided advantage.

[warrrreagl]

Is everybody clear on the hidden immunity idol rules? They have to play it BEFORE the votes are read, correct?

Weird.

[Gilda]

Originally Posted by warrrreagl

Is everybody clear on the hidden immunity idol rules? They have to play it BEFORE the votes are read, correct?

Weird.

Not so much. It increases the chance that it'll be played and creates more drama by forcing the person who has it to be active in using it rather than passive. If it gets played, and the person playing it isn't being voted out, it's been wasted. If the person with the most votes gets blindsided, and hasn't played it, you get even more drama.

[warrrreagl]

I don't think I've ever hated a season of Survivor more than this one. Blecchh! I'm tired of watching the same tribe dominate and DUH - can't imagine why they're so good, can you? I hope whoever came up with the luxury-poverty twist has been fired and NEVER comes back to Survivor. Stupid, stupid idea. That alone has almost driven me to quit watching.

Grancey announced halfway through the show that they'd better mix up the tribes or merge early or SOMETHING - and the previews seem to suggest they will. I think it's too late. What happens after the merge? Well, several folks will enter individual immunity challenges after having been well-fed and well-rested for two weeks and several of them will compete in near-starvation conditions. Gee - I can't imagine how THAT'S gonna turn out...

I also think they expected somebody to find the hidden immunity idol by now because they've repeated the same clue three weeks in a row now.

I'd be ROYALLY pissed if I was on that show and had been voted off. This is the first time I can recall where the show's writers were responsible for people getting voted off instead of themselves. From the moment Sylvia stepped onto the island she was doomed through no fault of her own, and she seemed like she would have been a great player.

[Daval]

I was expecting them to switch camps every few days or so, but that hasnt happened either.

[Locke7]

I've always wondered if during the actual 39 days Survivor is being taped, are the producers actively making decisions on what kinds of challenges are happening. I kind of figured they were to keep things interesting. Last night though, that reward challenge was a joke. Lets put people one on one, and one team has been eating/sleeping well, oh and they all outweigh the other team. I've watched every episode of Survivor since the first season, and I've never thought a challenge was SO one sided. This is easily my least favorite season so far. I thought it was Survivor, not Survivor vs. all inclusive paradise resort.

[Derwood]

the have/have not thing isn't working. it's clearly a huge benefit for the one tribe.

Funny thing about this season: I think the challenges are really cool and we've seen some very unique ones. On the other hand, I haven't given two shits about a single person who has been voted off yet. I can't say I really like any of them

[ShaniFaye]

There isnt one person on this season that Im rooting for yet....Im disappointed in this one big time

[Derwood]

you all probably know this, but no new episode this week, and the next new one will be a week from wednesday (due to the NCAA Basketball Tourney). They gave an awful lot away in the preview too