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lurkette 07-18-2004 06:51 AM

Sexual preference
 
So ratbastid bet me that like 90% of of women are at least bi-curious. I think this is just his (and every other man's) fantasy. But I told him I'd post a poll just to see. Not that we're a terribly representative sample around here, but here goes...

la petite moi 07-18-2004 07:01 AM

I'm not to fond of labels since love has no gender, but as my boyfriend said: If you used to look at both guys and girls when you were single, but you have done stuff with guys and not with girls, then you're bi-curious.

maleficent 07-18-2004 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lurkette
So ratbastid bet me that like 90% of of women are at least bi-curious. I think this is just his (and every other man's) fantasy.
He's delusional... :D

You're really not even going to get a realistic sampling as TFP is hardly representative of the real world. Maybe 90 percent of the TFP falls into his delusion. :)

(I'm firming in the Strictly Dickly category -- women? Not in a bazillion years)

Redgirl 07-18-2004 08:20 AM

I'm definitely bisexual. I passed the bi-curious stage years ago!

I think women are more beautiful to look at and touch, but I love dick too much to give up men. Plus there are a bunch of other things I love about being around a big strong guy, like feeling protected and safe, that I just don't feel with women.

So women fall in a strictly sexual category for me. Not a relationship I would seriously enter.

onodrim 07-18-2004 09:23 AM

Bi-curious here. In fact I spent most of Friday night making out with girls, good times. :)

I feel a lot like Redgirl, I am definently attracted to women on a physical level, but I doubt that I could ever have a serious relationship with one. But hey, never say never. :)

xxSquirtxx 07-18-2004 10:22 AM

I could not vote. My curiosity was taken care of - twice, but I don't consider myself bisexual. I am straight.

:)

Rubyee 07-18-2004 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by maleficent
He's delusional... :D

You're really not even going to get a realistic sampling as TFP is hardly representative of the real world. Maybe 90 percent of the TFP falls into his delusion. :)

(I'm firming in the Strictly Dickly category -- women? Not in a bazillion years)

Oh come on baby, you are telling me that I don't make you horny? Not just a little? A teensy bit? Oh well, then. I will just return the naked pictures of myself that I was going to send to you.

I am of the school of belief that goes something like this: "Don't knock it until you've tried it."

I would love to try, and then make my decision.

Sugar&Spice 07-18-2004 11:33 AM

I chose bi-curious. I don't ever want to make out with girls, but I guess a small part of me wonders about it. I don't think I could ever bring myself to do it. I know girls who have experimented with other girls and liked it a lot. As for me, I'll stick to the boys.

maleficent 07-18-2004 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rubyee
Oh come on baby, you are telling me that I don't make you horny? Not just a little? A teensy bit? Oh well, then. I will just return the naked pictures of myself that I was going to send to you.


I'm old. I'm a stick in the mud. I'm a prude. Women do absolutely nothing for me, except maybe, ooh pretty, but woudl I want to fuck it? No thank you.

xxSquirtxx 07-18-2004 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rubyee
I am of the school of belief that goes something like this: "Don't knock it until you've tried it."

I would love to try, and then make my decision.

You should try it...soon!!! It's an awesome experience. But, I am married now, so that is just one reason I "abstain." :)

SixEdxMia 07-18-2004 12:45 PM

Strictly Peetster. :)

lurkette 07-18-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rubyee
I would love to try, and then make my decision.
Honey, don't taunt me like that ;)

RainbowBright 07-18-2004 03:56 PM

I put straight cuz I only want to be with a man in real life. But I guess I should have put bi-curious cuz I do fantasize about women and think they are beautiful.

pinkie 07-18-2004 04:24 PM

I'm definitely bisexual, but I'm just with one man now.

twotimesadingo 07-18-2004 06:43 PM

It happens
 
just want to apologize, actually. i am quite male, and thought that i was in the Tilted Sexuality forum, and thus voted. but, now that i scroll up to the top, i realize i am not, and have definitely broken the rules of this area. again, apologies all around.

/flustered

honest mistake......adequately submissive in his kneeling apology to our beautiful ladies

Rubyee 07-18-2004 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lurkette
Honey, don't taunt me like that ;)
Where do you live again?

jRuntlets 07-18-2004 08:13 PM

Definately straight. Why? I have no desire to play with parts like mine. Women are pretty but I've never gotten along with them.

Trisk 07-18-2004 11:38 PM

bi-curious.
I've only dated and had serious crushes on men...but I do admire the female body and I would definately experiment with women sexually if they wanted me to. However, I think that sexual flings are as far as I would go with a woman. I've never had romantic feelings for a woman and I doubt I'm going to start getting them any time soon.

Ella 07-19-2004 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by onodrim
I am definintly attracted to women on a physical level, but I doubt that I could ever have a serious relationship with one. But hey, never say never. :)
Same. I've had several lickety split fun times, and man, were they fun! I still love the female form, and am aroused by it, but the dick's where it's at for me right now.

Nancy 07-19-2004 05:50 AM

Re: Sexual preference
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lurkette
So ratbastid bet me that like 90% of of women are at least bi-curious.
I agree with Ratbastid on this one. I have never met a woman who hasn't fantasized about being with another women so that would make them bi-curious.

I myself am very bi-curious but I haven't had the chance to actually have sex with one yet...

maleficent 07-19-2004 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nancy
I agree with Ratbastid on this one. I have never met a woman who hasn't fantasized about being with another women so that would make them bi-curious.

Hey, I'm Maleficent, damn glad to meet you.

You now can say you have met one...
:D

lurkette 07-19-2004 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rubyee
Where do you live again?
:lol: Durham, NC. And I think you're absolutely adorable.

Rubyee 07-19-2004 06:55 AM

So, if I am ever in NC, I have a date!

lurkette 07-19-2004 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rubyee
So, if I am ever in NC, I have a date!
You can count on it :icare:

*Nikki* 07-19-2004 04:09 PM

This thread is turning into a good place to get a date!:)

Ella 07-19-2004 10:25 PM

I think you're all out of my reach, dammit!

thubpt 07-20-2004 12:15 PM

I choose bi-curious. I wish I could say I was bi-sexual, but . . . . I just haven't had the chance yet :( Lot's of lovely ladies in this world, though!

fallenangel 07-20-2004 12:58 PM

I'm bi-curious. Always wondered about that about myself. I agree with Redgirl and Ono, it's more a sexual thing, I mean there are some women i'm physically attracted to, and some men as well. No be all and end all by any stretch. However, i don't think i'd ever want a relationship beyond sexual with another woman.


I just love sexual things too much to restrict myself to one gender. I'll try anything once... or twice *wink*

Rubyee 07-20-2004 05:39 PM

Maybe instead of planning get togethers, we should plan a bi-curious orgy. We can all get together and play!

shannon 07-20-2004 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rubyee
Maybe instead of planning get togethers, we should plan a bi-curious orgy. We can all get together and play!
that is a fantastic idea. meet in canada?

Hash_Browns 07-20-2004 07:53 PM

I voted Bi-curious. I have had experiences with women, but not a blown out sexual experience, just played around a bit...

I would love to actually get comfy enough with another girlfriend of mine to be able to explore a little more. Not for a relationship...but it would have to be someone I knew and could trust...

guinnessgurl 07-21-2004 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by Hash_Browns


I would love to actually get comfy enough with another girlfriend of mine to be able to explore a little more. Not for a relationship...but it would have to be someone I knew and could trust...

I found that, and the experience was amazing. I definitely put myself down as bi-curious (although I should say the majority of my curiosity has been taken care of). I've been harboring a desire to want to do it again.....any takers?

lurkette 07-21-2004 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rubyee
Maybe instead of planning get togethers, we should plan a bi-curious orgy. We can all get together and play!
I like the way you think!!

Quote:

Originally posted by guinnessgurlI found that, and the experience was amazing. I definitely put myself down as bi-curious (although I should say the majority of my curiosity has been taken care of). I've been harboring a desire to want to do it again.....any takers?
You are all a bunch of teases!!!! :p Plus you're (god I'm old) about 12 years younger than I am.

Xapphire 07-21-2004 08:04 AM

voted bi curious because while I've been between a woman's legs, it was too short for me to know if I really enjoyed it as we had an audience, I want one on one time with a girl which is something my husband and I are still haggling over *laughs* He wouldn't mind it after the first few times (assuming we found that unicorn, the single female to be our girlfriend) if he was there for the first few, while I wouldn't mind him being there after the first few times, but let me find out if it's for me or not first without having to worry about someone watching me *laughs*
~Xap

fallenangel 07-21-2004 09:30 AM

guinnessgurl - sign me up! lol



Lurkette - You're never too old, lol

Rubyee - genius!

lurkette 07-21-2004 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rubyee
Maybe instead of planning get togethers, we should plan a bi-curious orgy. We can all get together and play!
I'm SO there! But one rule: just like the LL, no boys allowed.

Nyah ratbastid ;) :p

Redgirl 07-21-2004 07:39 PM

Xapphire that is exactly the argument my husband and I have! I want the alone time with the girl and he doesn't like that idea. Good luck haggling with yours, I'm not getting anywhere with mine! Drop me a line when you figure out the perfect argument.

Oh, and count me in for the girly orgy! :D Doesn't even one of you hot ladies live in Oklahoma?!

Helloooo?

*crickets chirping*

guinnessgurl 07-21-2004 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fallenangel
guinnessgurl - sign me up! lol


we'll talk details, lol

lady 07-22-2004 12:34 AM

Straight chicka here... Girls turn me on in porn, but not in real life.

Sorry ratbastid ;)

Xapphire 07-22-2004 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Redgirl
Doesn't even one of you hot ladies live in Oklahoma?!
We were just there this weekend for my husband's family reunion (Choctaw Nation) does that count? *laughs* It only takes us an hour to cross the Red River since we live north of Dallas :)

Jaid understands the reasons I want it, he just wants to be there for my first few times, which I can understand wanting to share that with me, but it makes it harder for me, it's a big circle. Blah *wrinkles her nose*

~Xap

em1014 07-22-2004 09:44 AM

I voted bi-curious.

It's interesting to see where each of you gals draw the line between being bi-curious and bi. I voted bi-curious because I have been with a couple of girls, all one-nighters, but could never see having a monogamous relationship with a girl (I love my bf way too much). However, I would love to find a fairly consistant female third party.

Tinker 07-22-2004 02:20 PM

What redgirl said :)

ShaniFaye 07-22-2004 02:31 PM

I crossed the line from bi curious to bisexual when I was 32. I admit I love sex with women, its TOTALLY differnt from with guys (and NO I dont mean cause they dont have a dick lol)

Lurkette...dave and I arent that far away from you...ahhh the torture of knowing you're in NC everytime we go up there and we havent met!!!

Eclipse26 07-25-2004 07:31 PM

Definitely bi-curious. I've had a few minor encounters with women, but nothing that serious. I do find women beautiful to look at and touch...so I'm sure I'll explore it futher now that I'm single.

And Lurkette - you've only got a month on me. :)

Rubyee 07-26-2004 04:08 AM

I called myself curious because I have never tried anything. I have nothing to base my assumptions on.

And I agree, I could never have a real relationship with a woman.

To be honest, I will probably never try anything, either. I am too content in my relationship to worry about it.

lurkette 07-26-2004 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by ShaniFaye
Lurkette...dave and I arent that far away from you...ahhh the torture of knowing you're in NC everytime we go up there and we havent met!!!
Well come on over, folks! We'd love to meet you.

Eclipse: the 30s rule, don't they? :)

Rubyee - tease :p You still have a date if you want it ;)

I could definitely see having a relationship with a woman. I'm content with my marriage, and absolutely committed to ratbastid, but I would SO have another female partner if it ever worked out.

sexymama 07-27-2004 02:24 PM

I voted straight because in my younger days I had the opportunity to join a couple of girl friends, and didn't as I was not attracted to them. Then I realized that just this morning I was fantasizing about a woman partner. So, I guess I'm really bi-curious -- yet very happy with Lebell!

lurkette 07-28-2004 05:20 AM

Hey, welcome back sexymama! How was the honeymoon?

Redgirl 07-28-2004 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xapphire
We were just there this weekend for my husband's family reunion (Choctaw Nation) does that count? *laughs* It only takes us an hour to cross the Red River since we live north of Dallas :)

~Xap

W00t! Dallas is close enough! Next time you're up this way lemme know. And my SO, Primal, is Choctaw, too! What a coinkydink.

See, my man wants to be there ALL the time and eventually would like to participate. Not sure if that part will ever work out.

sillygirl 07-28-2004 08:50 AM

I <3 dick

Once, at a party, very very drunk, a friend and I were convinced to make out, so we did. Turned into a crazy night (that's all she and I did though). It's not really for me. She was my best friend, been that way for years. It won't happen again, methinks. Not interested in women. Like Maleficent, I can say a woman is beautiful, I can say she's hot. But I am in no way interested.

shannon 07-28-2004 12:19 PM

is it weird that there is a catagory bi curious...? i mean i am attracted to women, but i said bi curious cause i've never tested it out kinda thing. but i wouldn't have said hetero-curious when i was first attracted to boy but hadn't done stuff with them....just a thought.

raeanna74 07-29-2004 04:29 AM

I would have to say between bi-curious and bi-sexual. I love playing with girls. It's a totally different experience from being with a guy. Thing is I tend to be more shy around girls to begin with. I guess I'm afraid they'll not be into it as much as I am so unless I know the girl I won't "approach" her unless her hubby encourages it or she makes a move.

Cedar 07-29-2004 05:15 PM

I think I always knew...scratch that, I know nothing. But I do know I have fun kissing women as well as men. And maybe doing a little more. When I was younger and first started watching adult movies, I enjoyed watching women as well as men, and still do. Women are soft and smell nice and have boobs...no wonder boys like us! I don't know if I qualify as bi-curious necessarily, because I've had both hetero and homosexual experience, but let's say I'm definitely interested in pursuing both.

Labels. Feh.

StickODynomite 07-31-2004 09:13 PM

I know im straight because I've tried things w/ women and it doesn't turn me on in the least. Well, I'm glad i know for sure. :)

Eowyn_Vala 08-04-2004 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trisk
bi-curious.
I've only dated and had serious crushes on men...but I do admire the female body and I would definately experiment with women sexually if they wanted me to. However, I think that sexual flings are as far as I would go with a woman. I've never had romantic feelings for a woman and I doubt I'm going to start getting them any time soon.


i'd have to agree with trisk and sugar&spice, I may have thought about it and it may turn me on in porn, but I am happy with my guy and I don't need anything else to satisfy me! I have never experimented with a girl and I don't actually think I ever could, sure I might wonder or make comments but that is about as far as it goes for me.

qtpye4u84 08-07-2004 11:13 PM

I'm definitely bisexual, I see hot chicks every where I go. I like the curves that us women have. We are not as flat as guys are. I check girls out all the time I wanna do stuff with girls and I want to have a relationship with one but I also love my boy friend(I am allowed to date girls)
I don't hit on them or anything, I will tell them they have cute clothes or some thing.

Blonddie 08-08-2004 02:46 PM

I too wonder where the line is drawn...I have had experiences with other women and have enjoyed myself, however, I don't go looking for it. I love my husband (ALL of him ;) ), and won't want a relationship with a woman. So what does that make me?

DEI37 08-08-2004 06:16 PM

I'm gonna go with "fun," Blonddie. :D

raeanna74 08-08-2004 06:19 PM

Oops I'm sorry there. Hubby's computer is set to automatically log in as him. Forgot about that.

You are definately fun Blondie. Nothing else matters in my book. ;)

Blonddie 08-08-2004 07:19 PM

I think I will use that one...when people say "what are you??"

"Fun"

TY

divagrrrl 08-10-2004 08:00 PM

I could never have romantic feelings for a woman. I have kissed a woman beofre, and played with breasts, but that is as much as I could do, and I could only do it when extremely inebriated. I could never actually have sex with a woman, or fall in love with one. I like men. No, I LOVE men. :D

Somenosuke 08-12-2004 02:54 PM

I voted "definitely bisexual." :)

KimBauer 08-22-2004 05:34 AM

Bi-curious I guess, I'm open to most things.

cali 08-22-2004 09:11 PM

:icare: I voted bi-curious, although I haven't been with a woman...yet, I am looking forward to giving it a try. as far as relationship..no, just luv dickie way toooo much.
That and hubby and I have wanted for a while to try a 3some, so maybe it will happen b-4 we get to old..he's 38, I'm 36. :thumbsup:

anna1985 09-07-2004 04:06 PM

[B]Well I guess I would consider myself bi-curious,like some other people said I dont think I would like to be in a relationship with a girl cuz I love guys but I would love to try things with women and have for some time now but I havent had the chance yet! I hope I soon do! BUt you never know maybe someday I will find a girl I would want a relationship yet but im thinking thats not going to happen. I find girls very attractive and i dont like very much porn less its girl on girl and i love porn, lol! So any takers!?!?! My pic is in my profile, lol

Missy 09-09-2004 03:40 PM

I voted for Bi-sexual. Like others above, I enjoy being physical with other women but I would never enter a monogomous relationship with one. Purely friends with benefits! Does anyone else who has experience with other women find that they desire the touch of a man even more after a tryst with another woman?

pandafaye 09-14-2004 11:02 AM

I've only had the chance to dive in to the female form once, and on that occassion, she wasn't into it, so I can't say I've had any amazing girl on girl yet. That being said, I'm definately attracted to women, and in the future hope to explore that aspect of my sexuality. I'd be a little scared to, though. Maybe I should look for a good teacher...

inharmony 09-14-2004 05:41 PM

voted bi-curious, only because i've never tried or had the opportunity. not sure what i'd do if it presented itself....love guys too much i think :)

Batski 09-27-2004 03:30 AM

I have slept with people of both genders, if I find someone yummy, I find them yummy, male or female.

piano girl 09-27-2004 04:37 PM

women are beautiful and I like being with them, but I like the penis too much to actually have a relationship with a woman.

jenjen 10-08-2004 10:27 PM

I definitely find some women beautiful....I voted bi curious, but not sure that I would actually go through with it!

KinkyKiwi 10-08-2004 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redgirl
I'm definitely bisexual. I passed the bi-curious stage years ago!

I think women are more beautiful to look at and touch, but I love dick too much to give up men. Plus there are a bunch of other things I love about being around a big strong guy, like feeling protected and safe, that I just don't feel with women.

So women fall in a strictly sexual category for me. Not a relationship I would seriously enter.


Same here.........

jillian 10-30-2004 02:33 PM

i tend to not like labels as far as sexual preference goes... ive been with lots of girls and have been with lots of guys.. ive loved a few girls and loved a few guys.. when i meet someone wheter male or female if there is an attraction there is an attraction.. i dont like to put limits on myself.. i love pleasure in any form.. there is something soft and comforting about a beautiful womman and there is something safe and secure about a big strong man.. i love them both equally.. in a perfect world i would have a king sized bed with both who were both as comfortable with their sexuallity and sharing as i am.. but as of right now im single with a king sized bed

wannabenakid247 11-05-2004 09:27 AM

There needs to be more options. What about 90% lebian and 10% straight? I wouldnt say that was really bisexual as that suggests 50/50. What do ya think?

qtpye4u84 11-07-2004 09:35 PM

I like both. I cant get girls though. Sad!!!!!

sapphire 11-09-2004 02:27 PM

I voted bi-curious because I have only been with men but lately I have been thinking about experimenting with a woman or ffm situation...I just need the opportunity.

anti fishstick 11-10-2004 09:44 PM

i picked bi-curious only because i have little experience with women.

Ms.VanHelsing 11-16-2004 12:07 AM

[B] I have lots of male friends. They are really helpful if you need help moving. I cook them a great meal....and then I say "goodnight"
I am a mature woman....and when it comes to love and passion... nothing can surpass the rapture of two mature women together. Just my opinion of course :)

Squishor 11-16-2004 07:01 AM

I voted definitely bisexual although I'm generally much more attracted to men. I passed the "curious" stage a long time ago but still haven't had as much experience as I might have liked to. When I was trying, I had a really hard time hooking up with women for some reason. These days I haven't been trying but who knows what'll happen next. ;)

p.s. anna1985, I can't believe nobody has told you how cute you are!

Eweser 11-19-2004 08:10 PM

I think I'm in a minority here...lol. I don't find the female body nearly as fascinating or beautiful as the male body. I don't fantasize at all about women. Oh well! I'll stick with my hubby. He's fine by me. :lol:

yellowchef 11-19-2004 09:34 PM

Ive tried things with girls and it peaks my interest.. I want to try some more :)

I LOVE guys though.. maybe girls.;)

I just dont see a real reason to go around denying my urges..

KinkyKiwi 11-19-2004 09:42 PM

interesting thread..rubyee just had to say..your avatar is the cutest thing i've ever seen!!

snowy 11-21-2004 01:06 PM

I have managed to go four years without identifying myself as anything, which really angers people for some odd reason. I have enjoyed the company of both men and women, and I truly believe love overrides the societal construct of gender and the biological idea of sex. I don't think we fall in love with a penis or a vagina; we fall in love with a person.

Sexually, however, I find it easier to get with men where I live, and so I do so. But if an attractive woman were to fall in my lap, I wouldn't say no.

That said, I still won't classify myself.

pinkie 11-21-2004 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shannon
is it weird that there is a catagory bi curious...? i mean i am attracted to women, but i said bi curious cause i've never tested it out kinda thing. but i wouldn't have said hetero-curious when i was first attracted to boy but hadn't done stuff with them....just a thought.

Good point. On that note, I think I've always been bi... I mean, I had my first orgasm with a girl when I was around 9 or 10 years old! I was attracted to my girl cousin, and I liked to look at naked pictures of women, all around that same age. For a little kid, I was a perv... haha. :p

I had been masturbating for longer than that but that was my first "girl" encounter.

KinkyKiwi 11-28-2004 04:34 PM

hahaha i didnt even know what an orgasm WAS when i was that age...

lurkette 11-28-2004 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkie
Good point. On that note, I think I've always been bi... I mean, I had my first orgasm with a girl when I was around 9 or 10 years old! I was attracted to my girl cousin, and I liked to look at naked pictures of women, all around that same age. For a little kid, I was a perv... haha. :p

I had been masturbating for longer than that but that was my first "girl" encounter.

I had similar experiences - I had my first orgasm when I was about 5. I had my first girl encounter around 10 or so with a cousin who was gorgeous and er...experimental. The first time I KNEW I was bi was when I was about 14. I was watching "Moon Over Parador" (some stupid movie with Richard Dreyfus) and there was this scene toward the end where there's this big carnaval-type parade, and this woman in a showgirl kind of costume was walking down the street shaking her tits, and they were perfect, round, juicy tits, and I remember getting all wet and tingly and rewinding that little bit over and over and over and feeling horribly guilty. I may have to go watch that movie again just to see what got me so bothered :)

Ariel 12-12-2004 10:11 PM

I would have to say im bi-curious...just because i havnt had the chance to be with a girl yet. I have had a few make-out experiences with girls but nothing more then that.I would like to go father just to see if i like it as much as i think i would lol. ;)

zombie_sympathi 12-15-2004 02:13 PM

i have to agree with those who said things to the effect of sexuality being more fluid and less binary. i voted bisexual because i am attracted to both males and females [although females moreso... however, i am in a loving relationship with a guy now.] but i don't really identify as bisexual. i consider myself somewhere in between.

Janey 12-17-2004 02:10 PM

definitely bi, but safely ensconced in a marriage with a guy. I know I'm not gay, but i love tomasturbate a lot, and i find the sympatico with other women to be stress free, less of a political thing than with guys.

Sweetpea 12-27-2004 06:25 PM

I certainly consider myself bisexual. I think there is something very beautiful and erotic about woman, the way their breasts are so sensual and their curves are so erotic But I always feel an equal pull towards men, who also are erotic and sensual in their own way . . . it's the best of both worlds to be attracted to woman and men. :D

Although i have been married to a man for 3 years now, and my husband is my best friend and a great lover i still Fantasize about woman on a regular basis and he's cool with that. I think i could have had a committed relationship with a man or a woman . . . i don't think it would have mattered to me what gender i fell in love with. I could have just as easily fallen in love with a woman as i did with my husband, picking someone to share your life with isn't about gender to me at all, i think that committed and honest relationships are built on a soul connection, friendship and trust and mututal respect and i think both genders could offer than for me . . .

Sweetpea 12-27-2004 06:29 PM

:)
edited... because what i said then isn't how i feel now

Sweetpea 03-26-2006 03:40 PM

*bump*

I'm still bisexual ;)

And we have a lot of new ladies on tfp now who might want to offer their thoughts.

sweetpea

Supple Cow 03-26-2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetpea
:)
edited... because what i said then isn't how i feel now

Aww, that's a pity. It would be nicer to read about your evolution rather than see that you've censored yourself.

abaya 03-26-2006 04:20 PM

Yeah, what *did* you write, Sweetpea? No censoring needed with this crowd, we don't hold much against people as far as I can tell... :)

As for me, I don't even know if I posted here before, but I lean quite heavily towards the bi-curious side (if not right into the bisexual side at times). I haven't applied these feelings in real life, unless you count making out with my best friend when I was about 8... but that was only to feel what french-kissing felt like, not because I was horny. Mostly, I'd just like to make out with a girl intentionally, and feel what a woman's body would be like... (Breasts seem nice). I think I mentioned fantasizing about a girl with a strap-on awhile back... could be interesting.

Of course, these are mostly passing interests, since my hetero relationship w/ktspktsp is most important to me, and the bi-stuff is more of a curiousity (for now). If I wanted to act on it, we would talk about it first and I would never do anything without him feeling comfortable with it. :icare: Then again, maybe he'd like to do the filming... ;)

EDIT: Reading back over this thread, did that bi-curious experimenting orgy ever take place? Damn, it sounds like a LOT of us could use some of that to try things out in a safe place. I know I would go nuts on more than a few of you ladies in here, if that ever happened... :crazy:

Sweetpea 03-26-2006 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supple Cow
Aww, that's a pity. It would be nicer to read about your evolution rather than see that you've censored yourself.


I said something about how i thought the majority of women might be bi-curious. Which was an assumption and not a reflection of real life... and it isn't how i feel now.

And yes... i censored myself a bit. You can Spank me for it.

:)

sweetpea

Sweetpea 03-26-2006 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abaya
EDIT: Reading back over this thread, did that bi-curious experimenting orgy ever take place? Damn, it sounds like a LOT of us could use some of that to try things out in a safe place. I know I would go nuts on more than a few of you ladies in here, if that ever happened... :crazy:

Are you offering to experiment? :)

If that were to ever take place... I'm in.

:D

sweetpea

snowy 03-26-2006 06:49 PM

I'm still neither here nor there, though I am in a hetero relationship and plan on being in it for a long time to come. I've done enough to know I'm happy where I am.

Gilda 03-26-2006 08:49 PM

So I'm looking at the poll results after I voted and there are 19 votes for lesbian. So I'm thinking, where are the rest of you? Then again there are some 300 votes there, and I don't think I've seen a third of that total actually posting, so maybe it's just a lurking thing?

I identified as straight as a teen, but that was mostly due to pressure from my family and community to conform to expectations. My twin sister was openly bisexual, at least she was open with me, so that might be my natural inclination.

I've had more than one therapist say that men's and women's sexuality are much different in terms of orientation, that men's seems to be hardwired at birth with large clusters at the ends and a smaller number in the middle, while women seem to be more evenly spread along a continuum, with a lot more in the middle compared to men and the clusters on the end a lot smaller, again not in absolute terms but in comparison to men.

My therapist back in California explained as women's orientation being predominantly straight, with a much smaller number of truly homosexual women compared to men--a little less than half the incidence, around 5-6% for the guys, and between 2 and 3% for the ladies.

Also, the number of women who have indentified from early on as lesbian and have never expressed sexual desire for men or had sexual encounters with men is very, very small compared to the same factors in homosexual men. Most male homosexuals know they're homosexual very early on and that's pretty stable. Most lesbians have had sexual contact with men and many have in their past identified as straight either to others or themselves or both.

Anyway, his theory of female orientation was that most (without a specified number) women, or perhaps just a very large minority are naturally bisexual, with variant degrees of sexual attraction to men and women. This leaves more influence for nurture, and because we live in a heteronormative society, where there are overt and covert pressures to conform to the straight life, and because society is set up around the straight life, it's the easier choice. When more than one path is available, the easier one that leads to the same destination will be the one chosen most often. This may lead to many even identifying as straight despite having a residual attraction to women, and that does make logical sense. If you've never had sex with a woman, and don't intend to, calling yourself straight isn't the least bit deceptive.

On the other end, most women who identify as exclusively lesbian, such as me, have had sexual contact with males, with many having identified as straight earlier in their lives, often having been married to a man. Lesbians are far more likely to have had a male abuser, either physical or sexual, in their past than straight or bisexual women, and are much more likely to have been raped.

This, above, describes my sexual history quite accurately.

Then there are women who just aren't into guys. As Grace puts it, she's a lesbian because men smell funny and she finds the idea of sex with guys icky.

Thus, the theory goes, there are those who identify from the get go as straight, a very small number who identify initially as lesbian, and a large group of bisexuals in the middle who are pushed by environmental influences toward one end or the other. Note that this is not the same thing as choosing to be gay or bisexual, it's a theory of the possible causation, which still remains largely out of the persons individual control.

While men's sexuality seems to be hardwired, women's seems to be more of a case of predisposition that is then subject to environmental influence.

Oh, and, even though it was quite some time back, someone said she was 90% lesbian 10% straight, and asked if bisexual meant 50-50. The answer is no. Most bisexuals tend to be more attracted to one sex or the other, while retaining a lesser base attraction to the other sex. Kinsey rated sexuality on a scale of 0 to 6, with 0 and 1 being straight, 5 and 6 being homosexual, and 2-4 being bisexual. That 90/10 lesbian would likely put you at 5 on this scale: primarily homosexual and only incidentally heterosexual. That's where I am, by the way. Grace is a solid 6. Sissy is a 0, not the least bit interested in women except as friends.

Gilda

abaya 03-26-2006 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetpea
Are you offering to experiment? :) If that were to ever take place... I'm in.

Oh, I know you would be in. ;) But I think it will take me a bit longer to get the point where I can act on these things. Or at least to the point where this kind of action would be spontaneous and okay (e.g. at an experimenting party). :) I am a slow-mover unless I suddenly get the figurative balls to go crazy and jump in... which isn't about to happen around here, at least not with our group of friends.

Ktspktsp is very supportive of my exploring... hell, we just talked out a super hot FFM fantasy tonight over MSN/webcam, it was incredible! :crazy: He knows I have fantasized about this one girl in some of my courses, about her with a strap-on and all, and he helped me visualize how it might go (she's conservative Christian however, so no go in real life!)... which was just HOT. :) But it is a big step to go from that to real life, and I am not yet sure if I could handle it (or if he could, or us together).

So, if this group ever decide to do one of these experimenting parties, I might end up going. ;) But no guarantees just yet!

(Owl, does your comment mean you wouldn't come to play with us??)

snowy 03-27-2006 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abaya
(Owl, does your comment mean you wouldn't come to play with us??)

It would require some serious renegotiation about the bounds of our monogamy for me to do so. Don't think I won't fantasize about it, but it will never happen, and I am okay with that.


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