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Man arrested after rescuing swimmer
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i think this is bloody stupid... he saved a guys life only to spend the night in jail for it. |
Clearly we don't have the whole story but on the surface the most they should have done (considering he just saved the guy) was give him a stern talking to...
Jail seems a little out of line. |
The world is just senstive these days. When a 10 years old girl jaywalks, she'll be arrested. This is just another case of it.
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i can kinda see where they are coming from...
if the Newman guy had ended up not being a strong enough swimmer to save the other guy then the police would have had to rescue 2 people instead of just one... but i dont think they shoulda arrested the guy... |
He made them look bad I guess - some uniform types are like that. And when they feel dissed, well, most anything can be found to be against some law. And the law was probably written by a committee.
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He endangered his life to save another. It's the most selfless act anyone can do. He saved the guy's life. Going to jail for it is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of happening to someone.
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fuck i'm glad I dont live in the USA when i read shit like this!!! wow.... i would SUE the police station for putting me in jail for saving someone....
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I heard something on the radio about this incident. There is a lot of debate about swimming in that area of the San Marcos river. The current is strong and there's a weak dam nearby. The guy who was arrested was an activist in favor of allowing swimming in that area. So, the police knew the guy. I'll see if I can find a source.
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It's the same as if a fire breaks out and some guy starts running in and endangers firefighters lives because he is trying to be a hero. Now if noone is there helping, and he chooses to do something, then cool. But it sounds like he took it upon himself to interfere, and while the deed was noble it could seriously have had negative repercussions. |
Yeah But.......
I believe the police when telling him to stop, where considering the likelihood that instead of saving 1 person they would soon be facing the situation of saving both men, thus endangering the life’s of the real emergency crews twice as much. Jail time, a little harsh but its all based on this guys attitude, assholes who break the law (no matter how insignificant) don’t catch breaks from the police. I would love to hear the 'whole' story here.
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I agree with joecool et al. It's great that he saved the guy, but what if he hadn't? Then the rescue team would have an even tricker situation to handle, trying to save two lives, endangering the safety of the *rescue team* even more. Besides that, there the issue that the guy ignored police orders--orders that were there for two reasons: 1. to ensure that other people's safety are not compromised, and 2. to ensure that the police are able to do their job. You say, what's the big deal if one person crosses a police line? Well then, what's the big deal if one spectator walks into the basketball court, out of the way of players, during the Big Game? It's the same thing.
Not that it matters, but I'm an EMT, and his arrest makes perfect sense to me. |
I live in San Marcos, two mnutes drive from this area of the river.
People drown or almost drown at that site frequently. There's a waterfall. People jump into it and get sucked under. In the summer, people have to be rescued at that spot more times than I know. It's very dangerous there. I swim just below the falls every weekend. I was there when this incident occurred. The fire rescue squad knows exactly what must be done to rescue swimmers at that place. They don't need some nucklehead getting in the way, and perhaps drowning himself. Trained rescuers can't go in the water while someone else is there who might pose a threat to them. It happens all the time that a panicked swimmer will drown someone who is trying to save him. The guy who saved the drowning man is no hero. This time he got lucky. He could've caused something worse to have happened. |
I just found out that since April the rescue squad has been called to the falls 7 times. Six times they came away with a warm body. One time they recovered a corpse.
In other news, the "hero" of this story has published a letter in the San Marcos Daily Record. He makes a good case for his actions, and he doesn't seem like he's on an ego trip. I'm beginning to think this one depends on which side of the river you were standing on. Or if you happened to be in the water... |
I personally think that the cops are the ones with the ego's here. If they tell you that 2 and 2 is 3 then you are supposed to smile and nod and agree whole heartedly.
Saving the guys life seemed obvious to the guy doing the saving -but the cops undoubtedly wanted to tell him what was possible and what wasn't. "Oh you don't agree that 2 and 2 is 3? -Well then, you are under arrest." From the San Marcos Record http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/conte...ront/photo.jpg Here is the only quote I could find on the defendent's letter to the editor: Quote:
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The bottom line is always the same: Police officers are not your friends.
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I was handling a traffic accident one day, directing traffic, and a guy didn't like the way I was handling it, so he took it upon himself and started to direct traffic himself. He almost caused a serious accident. I'm sure that his intentions were good, but he ended up creating more problems. If this guy had been told several times not to get in the way, and he ended up drowning, we'd all be calling him a dumbass. Do the ends justify the means? |
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/me steps off soapbox. |
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I HAVE been "protected and served" many times. Some of the homicide detectives went above and beyond the call of duty to protect us. They were not our "friends" in terms of a personal relationship. Jalora, please explain your meaning when you claim that "police officers are not your friends." :hmm: |
It may be different if you're a minority. I live in LA and unfortunately, cops aren't your "freind" here. It's a city where you call 9-11 and either get a busy signal, no answer, or voice-mail. It's a city where the cops are severely understaffed. For some reason, LA is a "unfriendly" place. I've had to call the cops many, many times. Mostly, they don't show up. (Our store was held up by gub oint - the cops took two hours to come). The next time we were robbed, I had the white girl in our store call the cops and tell them the robber wsa black and last seen headed for Beverly Hills. The cops arrived in less than 5 minutes.
So it depend on your experience whether or not cops are perceived to be your "friend" or not. |
The charges were dropped against the rescuer yesterday. The cops say they were correct in arresting him but in light of the circumstances they have dropped the charges.
I've flipped and flopped on this one, but in light of an eye witness account published in this morning's local paper, I think the university police botched this one good. In any case, charges have been dropped. End of case. |
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