Canadians :D
 

Alright, I was just reading the thread about how people percieve Americans and this made me curious. I'm from Canada, and I'd really be interested in knowing how people from various countries see Canadians.

Reading through the post about Americans I noticed several people referred to Canadians as Americans as well. I have to admit that this slightly upset me, as I feel we Canadians have a distinct culture of our own.

Do other people see Canadians as Americans? or do you see us as our own people? or just throw in anything you wanna say :D

I see Canadians as totally seperate people..I joke sometimes and call Canada America Jr. but it's all in jest.

I have only met one Canadian really ... so haven't made up much of an opinino on the matter but I don't think of them as "United States of America ns" ;)

i'm Canadian and altho i agree that we're getting americanized (with all the american stores opening up here and american tv) i still think that we have a distinct culture of our own

and btw, we do not live in igloos or have polar bears instead of cars.

and o yes, we have a summer season. Quite hot actually too

Honestly, we know Canada is a beautiful place with a socialist government that seems to be working. In joking, we see Canada as Americas attic or full of people who say eh and aboot.

Most of us see canadians as easy going people...Never do crime or anything, etc...

I have a canadian friend that gets very offensive when someone refers to them as americans or american like. On the outside they don't seem that different but when you look at the actual people there are some major differences. I think too it depends on which part of Canada they are from. A French-Canadian is most likely pretty different from say someone from Alberta.

I kenw a French-Canadian, he was a cool guy. That was the first Canadian I spoke with on a MSGER list. Then i met about 3-4 in or around Alberta area. Yeah they are americanizING, but they're still Canadians. We just like to make fun of 'em, why? not a single clue. But most Canadians realize that its just a dumb joke, and that no harm was intended. Heck one of my Canadian friends calls Canada, Little America ;)

Don't worry, You're not American, if you were then how else could we say, BLAME CANADA!!! hehehe.... thats how you know ;)

Quebec is pretty distinct in culture...they get all the money for it from the feds, meanwhile the west is suckered out of everything [only way to get fed support now is to win the winter olympics bid] Don't get me wrong I adore Quebec [currently fluent in french], but as a British Columbian, I find the fed gov't attitude really just awful, they make it so Ontario is basically a replica of America and think Quebec has enough culture for all the rest of the country. Meanwhile, the west is isolated and the maritimes' population is dwindlig down to nil. I'm not blaming Quebec, I'm blaming the feds, just because they live in central Canada doesn't mean all the money should stay there. [begin plug] Vancouver is a great place with tons of talented artists, a spectacular environment, it's got the healthiest ppl in all of Canada...it attracts a lot of tourism...[end plug] and it would attract more if there was more money for it. So...quit hoggin' the $$$

Well, I've never met a Canadian, nor been to the country. Yet somehow, I have a love for the place, as if going there would solve all my problems. :p Can't explain it, at all. I guess you just exude goodness. :D

I'm Canadian. I see Canadians as a mixed bag of everything. The area I live in has a lot of '60s draft dodgers who you would not ever think of as Americans. We have loud mouthed rednecks & soft spoken rednecks, we have loud mouthed budgies (new aged hippies) and soft spoken budgies. When I go down to the states I notice the biggest difference is the American in your face patriotic attitude and the "It's my right to do what ever the hell I want, I'm an American." attitude. I'm not saying that all Americans are like that but the ones that are standout so boldly that they make up for the majority of the "normal" people.

I think perceptions of Canadians are region-specific. Growing up in the Southern United States, I regarded Canadians as not much different than rich Yankees passing through in big Buicks on their way to Florida. We could always count on Canadians to stop at the "alligator farms." In fact, someone once said that there wouldn't have been any reptile farms in the South if it hadn't been for Canadians.

I welcome this thread, and I hope you don't have any paper-thin-skinned Canadians responding indignantly the way a few redneck seppos responded to mine.

Vancouver rocks.. the best city in Canada as far as I'm concerned

That's awesome :D
Seriously, that just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
heheheh...

Yeah, Vancouver is pretty sweet, i lived there for a while.... GReat skiiing ;). But my home is on the east coast and i love it here too.

keep up the responses, I'm lovin it :)

Ive spent alot of time in Canada,(B.C.,Ontario, and Quebec), IMHO the countryside is beautiful, the cities are cleaner, and on average the people are friendlier. The only times I ever had a problem up there I started it. I dont want to start trouble in here so I wont mention politics.

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.

With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!

From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.



a friend once told me that(now there's no offence here whatsoever)

canada is bigger and we are on top.

I AM A CANADIAN

ROFL oh man I never heard that one before
Stay proud flyman :D

I've lived for a long time in Vancouver, and the city is great. I'd love to visit the east coast sometime, I hear it's one of the most beautiful places on earth.

proud as proud can be....

CANADA RULES

I'm a Canadian who has lived in the States since age six. My family has a summer home on a lake about 100 miles north of Toronto, and my entire extended family lives in Ontario, so I still have pretty close ties to Canada. I spent all my summers up there with my extended family. My cousins used to call me a *yankee,* which I always resented.

At one point in my adulthood, I got sick of not being able to vote in the American elections and I obtained the paperwork needed to apply for US citizenship. I was humming along, filling things out, when I got to the part where I had to *renounce* Canada ( in case the US & Canada ever went to war against each other). I couldn't do it. I would have felt like a complete traitor.

Interesting sidenote for a Canadian obtaining American citizenship. Canada still recognizes you as a Canadian, i.e. allows you to have duel citizenship, but the US does _not_ recognize you as a Canadian. I find that pretty funky.

I always find visiting Ontario, intriguing though. Canadians _are_ different. They are absolutely more polite and not in-your-face patriotic. I think American tourists sometimes come off as rude & loud, and not just in Canada. I can't figure out why you guys do that- guess it's just more acceptable here.

I love both countries- my husband & kids are Americans- and I think of myself as a Canadian/American.

ok well.. I am canadian... and i call it little america.. I really dont see the differences in the two countries... yes the americans go to war more, but thats all ive seen.. there is violence here too, something in the news localy is double murder suspect kills himself, last year my school had 3 bomb threats (we didnt even leave the building... bullshit i say!!) and false fire alarms for about two weeks straight.. there was a big gang fight by my school last month, between white people and east indians.. so yeah... its very peacful you know.. they only used the soft kinds of chains with big steel hooks on the end... our dollars worth less, but going up, and we are above the us... i dont know about american government agencies but canadian ones are lazy and are all assholes

oh, we spend a couple grand on toilet seats!!! :D

Never been to Canada myself, but my Grandmother married a Canadian after her first husband died.

He once told me.."If you live a good life and do well by others you might get to go to Canada....else you'll have to settle for Heaven."

Canada seems to be the quiet neighbor of the world.

I am like onodrim. For what ever reason I kind of see Canada as a Utopia. Maybe because we never hear anything really bad abt Canada.

I'm a Canadian but I don't think that way,patriotically speaking. I have spent alot of time in the states and love it down there,especially in New England. They have got to have the friendliest people in the world and the best lobster. Of course we Canadians have much better beer.

I used to think Canada was our ally and our friend. Now I think they are becoming more and more self interested and less interested in the common good. It disapoints me.

As far as actual folks from Canada, I like 'em. Every one I have met has been a pretty good egg.

Living in central New York as I do, I know what ALL central New Yorkers know; CANADIANS ARE TRYING TO TAKE THE UNITED STATES OVER!!
They send us the horrible winter weather we suffer through 8 months out of the year; they come across the border and act all friendly-like, but WE KNOW!! They want to enslave us; force us to consume maple syrup at every meal, worship beavers and watch nothing but hockey on tv. Oh, yeah and wear nothing but flannel shirts nd end evey sentance with "eh?", even if we're NOT asking a question!
DARN YOU CANADIANS!! DARN YOU TO HECK!!!!

That's funny bullgoose.

I'm sitting in my office right now, having had maple syrup on my french toast for breakkie, looking at my red flannel shirt hangin' on the hook, and lookin' forward to the start of the Stanley Cup finals. Am I Canadian eh ?

I think Canadians and Americans have some similarities, but we have many differences. You won't find much flag waving, in your face patriotism, but don't let that think we are not proud of our country and for what it stands for. I really like the fact that we are recognized around the world as a peaceful, caring, welcoming society with all the freedom to do what we want and when we want to do it. Every country has its warts, and we certainly have ours, but overall I can't think of a place I'd rather call home.
Thanks Mom and Dad for immigrating here!:)


Imagine that... a country exercising it's sovereignty. Last time I checked we were a free and independent country, able to do what we like for any reason we want. (Much like your country does). It makes me happy.

I feel the same way towards your folks :)

The french speaking canadians seem to be culturally separated from both americans and other canadians, but otherwise an average canadian seems pretty much like an american in my eyes. A bit less patriotic perhaps and a bit less agressive.

The climate and nature (in souther part of Canada) are some what similar in Finland & Canada so I think finns feel more connected to canadians then americans.

I know this is your opinion Mondak, but I feel I have to comment.

It sounds as if your comment is based on Canada's desire to avoid engagement in the Iraq invasion.
This in no way reflects Canada's lack of interest in the *common good,* just lack of agreement with the US.

Canada is the biggest importer of US goods and vice-versa. We need each other.

IMO, the US could not ask for a better neighbor than Canada.

I thought you Americans already worshipped beavers.:D

And I'd rather watch an exciting, fast-paced hockey game than boring old baseball.

Canadians do have thier own distinct culture neilz0r. The thing about America is that it has almost every culture is mixed in it from around the world. I live in Michigan so I see canadians every now and then since they are our neighbors, but when I do and they are down here I consider them American because they have to abide by the same rules while down here. And they might not even just be visiting they could be living here theres no true way to tell. A person doesn't just change because he moved and is American all of a sudden, he just gets certain freedoms and laws that he didn't have where he used to live.

I am in on the Sovereignty argument. I like it when countries think for themselves. We have great neighbors to the North and I can't think of too many border nations that have a better relationship. I just kinda think that the decision making process was flawed by emotion, but then again most of them are.

/ flamebait/ I have to admit that every once in a while I wonder if the continent would be better off if we had fufilled the Manifest Destiny. / flamebait/

If we Canadians ever expressed our true feelings in re: SOME Americans, there wouldn't just be flames, there'd be an inferno!

But we are too polite for that. :p

All I can say to that is I'm very glad it wasn't fufilled:D

You know, as I was typing that, I just KNEW someone would have to comment; Yes, it's true, the patriotic American male DOES worship the beaver, but NOT beavers that are smeared with maple syrup!! (whipped cream IS acceptable, though). As far as baseball vs. hockey , it's obvious that the Canadian mentality is incapable of understanding the subtlties of baseball (like the designated hitter rule); if I ever figure them out, I will be sure to post them, eh? And how come it's always CANADIAN bacon? I propose that true Americans only eat NORTH AMERICAN bacon.

You _do_ eat North American bacon. One cannot get real Canadian bacon in the States, it's some kind of weird ham-like product instead.

And in re: American sports: You play football funny.

I'd say you hit the nail right on the head :D
first of all, the maritimes has better lobster, don't fool yourself hehehhe
And yes, Canadian men are much hotter ;)

Wait a minute; you're telling me that bacon comes from PIGS?!?!? I thought it GREW; on a PLANT, and you're saying it comes from cute little PIGGIES?!?! Oh, my God, have you Canadians no SHAME??? What do you do with the rest of the pig, make footballs so you can play your perverted CANADIAN version of FOOTBALL?!?!?! You people are worst than AUSTRALIANS; at least Australian rules football has lots of blood an mayhem.

Yup, and our balls are bigger !

Hey, I'm not a lumberjack, or a fur trader....
I don't live in an igloo or eat blubber, or own a dogsled....
and I don't know Jimmy, Sally or Suzy from Canada,
although I'm certain they're really really nice.

I have a Prime Minister, not a president.
I speak English and French, not American.
And I pronounce it 'about', not 'a boot'.

I can proudly sew my country's flag on my backpack.
I believe in peace keeping, not policing,
diversity, not assimilation,
and that the beaver is a truly proud and noble animal.
A toque is a hat, a chesterfield is a couch,
and it is pronounced 'zed' not 'zee', 'zed' !!!!

Canada is the second largest landmass!
The first nation of hockey!
and the best part of North America

My name is Daval!!
And I am Canadian!!!

The US invaded Canada in the war of 1812... We kicked your sorry asses out... then we went down to Washington and burned the house your president lived in... They painted it White to hide the scorch marks... :p

The most glorious moment in Canadian history, burning down the white house hheheheh
1812 was our time to shine baby :D

Hey Melun Jinn, d'ya think he heard about the battle of New Orleans, or the Treaty of Ghent?

hey my dad is a newfie and a lot of my aunts, uncles, ect.. still live up there. I don't think they are idiots just very honest. They are will to tell you things that a normal tackful person would lie about. For an example with no malace attached my cousin told my aunt that she looked fat in her red dress. All my cousins just nodded (it was funny from my point of view). See you or I would have said no you look great or hmmm that dress doesn't work for you. A Newfie will just tell you exactly what they think no holding back.

The rest of that quote is "If this were prison, you'd be our bitch!"

Yes us Canadian guys can do our thing and the duct tape,..well that just an issue. But yeah,..the "maple syrup"....

I've only ever been to Canada a handful of times, I recieved less than stellar treatment up around Toronto from the 10-15 people I directly conversed with. Some guy did sit down and talk to me for like 10 mintues at Niagra though, nice guy, I think he worked with security there.

We stopped with the whole war thing and concentrated on kicking EVERYONE's ass at hockey :D

A lot of insight in this discussion, eh?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Yeah, ya burned down the white house, but how could we stay mad at you up there, so cute the way you think you're a real country and all. Real countries have nukes. :D

As one of the Kids In The Hall said "What's a Canadian? It's like an American but without the gun".

Speaking of Canadian comedians, ever notice how a disproportionate amount (Canada has a 1 to 10 ratio of people to the States) are highly successful? Like that fellow, Jim what's- his-name with the big movie this weekend?

OH HELL YEAH

thank you very much for that Daval

just had to quote it so it could be read again

I AM CANADIAN

that is freakin' hilarious vermin......ROTFLMAO

thanx eh!!!!

*goes to buy gun*

*and invest in nukes*:D

ewww. thats so bad.

Damn...our secret is out!
Seriously, as a very proud Canadian, I think that while there certainly are subtle differences between Canadian and Americans we are basically the same. I have a lot of family living in the USA and don't view them any differently I do my family living here.
While we aren't as openly patriotic as Americans we are proud of our gorgeous country. I like the fact that people view us as non-threatening and friendly. I mean really - how threatening can we be with our one or two helicopters that keep crashing and when the majority of our naval fleet is in a mall!
:p

i love canada and canadians. i think it's better than the u.s., where i live... all the same i love to make fun of canadians. love love love it.

Yes we lost in New Orleans but that was just a battle... we spanked you here and there you spanked us...

As for the Treaty of Ghent... as far as I see it we won. The US invaded our lands and we pushed them back. There was no ground won or lost. Sounds to me like the aggressors (ie the USA) got pushed back. The boarder held.

As for whose ass have we kicked lately? No need to kick ass. No one has invaded us since.

...and Canada has no desire to become an imperialist nation.

A Canada discussion wouldn't be the same without me... go us.

And yes I do actually make maple syrup, the very best...

Canada is awesome. I'm proud to be Canadian. I have no problem with americans, they have the same ability to be nice, and the same ability to be a jerk as anyone. I must say however, how Canadians are known to Americans as toque wearing people who say 'eh' and Americans are known to Canadians as people with an exaggerated Texan accent. I can't help but post this article by Rick Mercer of 22 minutes.

On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to the United States of America. We haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, I am truly sorry. I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. He is a moron but, it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the people of America. After all it's not like you actually elected him.



I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defence I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours.



I'm sorry we burnt down your White House during the war of 1812. I notice you've rebuilt it! It's very nice.



I'm sorry about your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer but, we feel your pain.



I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you want to have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.



And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this.



We've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.





BTW, have any of you americans seen 22 minutes?

Heh-heh. Good one. I like that.

AoN! Good to see you mate! Where you been? I've missed your humourous posts in defense of our great country.

Canadians are English lite.

And what would that make Americans- English extra lite?

Hmmmm....I dunno, the last time I forced myself to stand on my lyin' bathroom scale, it would appear that I, at least, am American Extra-Stout.

Ok - I am not saying I don't believe you. I am just saying that I cannot verify this factoid and I need your help. I found Sone information that pointed to the fact that our Material for the WWII bombs came from Oak Ridge, TN but that most of the material for the bombs made in the 50s and 60s came from Canada.



The Americans, however, still had little technical respect for the work that had been done in Canada, and felt that the U.S. graphite reactors could produce the plutonium for a bomb sooner than the Canadian heavy-water process. It was decided to continue the Canadian work, however, because of its post-war industrial and military plutonium potential. Research was done on plutonium extraction from irradiated natural uranium and reactor construction. The "dust had scarcely settled over Hiroshima and Nagasaki" [24] when the first reactor outside the U.S. -- the Zero Energy Experimental Pile (ZEEP) at the new Chalk River, Ontario laboratory -- was "fired up" in 1945, and work was begun on the National Research X-perimental (NRX) reactor.

"[T]hroughout the 1950s Canada was a major supplier of weapons-grade plutonium -- the essential, deadly element in atomic bombs -- to both the British and U.S. military programmes... Official estimates of the AECB are that about $10-million a year of plutonium was being exported to the United States by 1957. The sale of uranium to the United States was also bringing in about $300-million a year." [30]



I am intrigued by this and would like to learn more Jaelin. Thanks for the help.

One more thing about this whole "We burned down the White House" thing. You may as well have been the Vichey French in the War of 1812. Just because you were British Stooges and you did not have the balls to fight for your own independance, doesn't mean that you are somehow heroic for burning down the White House. Crown Colony my ass. You were the Queen's bitch and you did what you were told. If anything, it is pathetic that your children had to die to fight for the Crown's interests and you just took it.

When the Crown told you to march, you should have thrown some perverbial tea in Hudson Bay. Heck, maybe you would have gotten some help from your soon to be pals down south.

I am inclined to defend *Canadians,* when you point out how ball-free you believe us to be, but when I think about how many hundreds of thousands of your own women, children & men you killed in the Civil War, and what perverted sense of rightiousness had brother killing brother, I think, nah. One does not want to look too closely at American history, you're liable to unearth some pretty rancid stuff.

Well I have known quite a few Canadians in my time and for the most part I think they are more laid back then most of americans...and usually have a pretty good adittude about things. Everyone has there assholes..but over all...nice laid back people.....

oomm

I am not commenting on the glass house in which I live and I don't want this out of context here. I have seen too many Canadian Hockey players to think that Canadians have no balls. I am simply putting this whole White House thing that the previous posters have been clinging to into perspective.

heheheh, that was pretty funny about the hockey players
and about the burning of the white house, we're all just joking around
i think it's just a rather amusing tidbit of history :D

Canadians are Americans. People who live in Canada are a part of America. People who live in the United States are Americans. The United States is a part of America. Mexicans are Americans. Event those few who are still in Mexico. Mexico is a part of America. If it makes you feel better you can throw a North in with America!

The you have Hondurans and Ecuadorians and Brazilians who are also Americans - You can throw in a Central or a South if it makes you feel better. We are all Americans from Cape Columbia, Nunavut, to the Straits of Magellan - We who live in the United States have rather bastardized the name American to apply only to those of us who live in the 50 states - this is incorrect - guess than makes us United Statesians or something like that!

I'm an american and I have a girlfriend that lives in Niagara Falls. From my 5+ trips to canada I have loved every single one. I simply love the country and the atmosphere.

Plus you all are forgetting something that canada has that the US does not .. TIM HORTONS.

Ummm, that was the British.

Anyway, nice Canadian lovefest you all have going here. I won't post my opinion due to the fact that I WILL get edited and bitch-slapped by a moderator.

True enough! But I think it's a losing battle. We'll let you keep calling yourself *American.* After all, you are pretty damn proud of it. :D

FromTheFallingRock:
Plus you all are forgetting something that canada has that the US does not .. TIM HORTONS.

And in case anyone is wondering, Tim Horton was a Canadian hockey player who started the donut franchise, Tim Horton's.
On the topic of yummy, super-fattening foods, there is one reason that I'm glad I no longer live in Canada. BUTTER TARTS. Can't get them in the US, and when I'm in Canada I am compelled to gorge myself on them. They are, simply put, a taste of heaven.

Mondak: No hard feelings. I responded to your comment in the early stages of my awakening today and I'm afraid I was a tad snippy. Sometimes I feel like I've spent my whole life defending my country of birth, but my knee most definitely jerked this a.m.

This has been a great thread with a strong undercurrent of good-natured humor. I'll try to stay with the good-natured aspect of it. ;)

I didn't even notice. I think you had a good point! If anything, I think I am the one pushing buttons a little too much around this thread. As you said though - I think most of it is good natured.

Now all have have to do is find out more about that Plutonium...

I do not say aboot.

I have never understood that one.

But i do say rooooof, unlike my american friends who say Ruff.

Sorry, that one grates like fingernails on a chalk board.

I've never hear a Canadian say aboot... I have heard us say aboat...

As for the White House burning... Mondak... geez lighten up. It is our way of poking fun at the US...

And yes, technically it was British regulars that were involved in the war of 1812. However, there were also a large number of Upper and Lower Canadians in the form of Militia and a great number of Native Americans that were involved in that fracas.

The whole Vichy French thing is a little off base. Upper Canada was full of people who didn't want to seperate as the US did. It was not an occupied territory in the same sense as France was in WW2.

As for not having the balls to seperate from the UK... well. We are seperate. In true Canadian fashion we did it through negotiation. Sure it took longer but we didn't have to kill to get it.

As a Canadian I am extremely proud of that heritage.

GOOD!! Now that everybody has kissed and made up, let's get back to the important stuff....like the habit of residents of the 51st state (unofficial) worshiping beavers after smearing them with maple syrup; that's just plain SICK; every good American KNOWS that beavers should only be covered with whipped ceam (and sprinkles) to be PROPERLY worshiped. Keep it up and we'll kick you out of the union.

hockey, the greatest sport ever.

I love Canada's military history. We kicked ass in WW1.
We did everything to hold the line. When the German's used mustard gas, the British retreated, but the Canadians held the trenches. They pissed on their hankies, and breathed through them. The ammonia counteracted the mustard gas.
Canadians developed a reputation during this war. When the German's learned there were Canadians on the other side of the trenches, they knew they were in for a long, hard fight. The Brit's used the Canadians as their shock troopers.
I don't know, but I'm proud of that :)

Actually, there is Tim Hortons in Michigan. Not sure about other states though.

lol most people dont see canada as anything :p but seriously, i havent been there, but would like to visit. i see Canada as much more liberal than america for laws and stuff. although is should be part of USA, but thats ok

Canada has one of the greatest histories that nobody knows about.

I adore Canada and Canadians. I grew up about 40 miles from the Canadian border in the US, and watched Canadian TV nonstop, listened to Canadian radio, etc, etc.

I got to spend a week in Vancouver for spring break and I've never had so much fun in my life. We had a great time and everywhere we went we met awesome people. You can't go wrong with a country that makes Molson, watches hockey, and has everything maple-flavored under the sun.

If I had my way, I'd go to UBC and do my grad work there, but I don't think it's going to happen :( The best I can hope for is to go to Western Washington University in Bellingham...still within spitting distance of Vancouver, the best city in North America! :)

As for their disagreements with the US, they are an independent nation and they have the right to disagree. I personally say more power to them. It takes a lot of guts to stand up the the US. YAY FOR CANADA! :)

http://members.aol.com/jimhail/war1812.html

"In 1810 a new Congress was elected. In the new Congress there was a group known as War Hawks. They wanted to go to war with England and invade Canada. On June 18, 1812, President James Madison declared war on England even though the United States was not ready for war. There were many battles on land and at sea. Neither England or America were winning the war.

In March 1814 England defeated France. Then the British were able to put all their attention to their war with America. The British fought harder now and there were many battles on United States ground.

The War of 1812 was fought from June 1812 to the spring of 1815. A peace treaty was signed in Ghent on December 24, 1814. No one really won this war. The United States was not able to invade Canada and the British did not take control of Baltimore and New Orleans. Historians say that the War of 1812 confirmed America's independence from England and gave the settlers a reason to be proud of being Americans."

Hmmmm..
coulda been the United States of North America.... then we could win at the only Olympic sport we haven't... curling. :D

I'm a canadian living in the Uk now.. someone tonight actually asked me 'Are you american' when i said 'actually canadian' there was a real quick 'OOOH soory bout that!'

I have one guy that comes into my pub over here that always tries to wind me up about being american

'Plus you all are forgetting something that canada has that the US does not .. TIM HORTONS.'

AMEN to that. Oh how I miss Timmy Ho's .. As soon as i get off the plane thats the first thing that i ALWAYS have to do in canada!

I see Canadians as Americans because Canada is part of America but I dont't see them as US Americans :)

1/2 of the ICU in the hospital where I work are canadians. We employ close to 100 to 150 canadian nurses. I have yet to see a big cultural difference between our two countries. With the exception of the Quebecers you wouldn't know most of them come from another country.........eh?

Everyone that I have ever met from Canadia is pretty awesome. I used to talk to Canadians everyday for a previous job. I've been to Ottawa, and the people there are all great! Overall, any city in Canada treat you better, and are more friendly than most U.S. cities. If you talk to anyone from Canada, you'll understand. Of course, the best looking strippers come from Canada as well!

Re: Canadians :D
 

Queue up "Blame Canada" from the South Park movie.

Uh, you are Americans. Specifically, North Americans. What's the problem? I've got a Canadian in my line of view right now. He's very polite:

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boy do i have alot to say about this one! :lol:

i was born and raised in the US, but i married a canadian. she moved here begrudgingly but not 'cause its the states, but 'cause she had to leave her family and friends behind. i was completely ignorant of the hostile feelings that so many people have towards americans until we met. it makes me feel stupid alot of times to say i'm american. i see how ameriocentric everything is in our society and see just how ignorant we are of others cultures and events outside our borders.

the counter to that is that alot of culture, economy, and science does originate here so it kinda makes sense that so many other countries are more educated about us than we are of them. i flinch when i say that cause it does sound like a flag-waving in-your-face patriotic thing to say, but i'll tell you that i am the last one to thing our country is the greatest. i see our faults but i also see the faults of any country.

my wife was so disgusted by our privatized health care system... until her mother became very sick and every time she went to the hospital, they ran a test and discharged her without actually caring for her. they finally figured out what the problem was after 4 trips to the hospital but said they wouldnt do anything about it until it got worse. worse?!?! she had been taken to the hospital in an abulance 4 times!! what's worse? her being dead? at the same time, my wife had a problem with her pregnancy and when i told her to call and make an appointment she was floored when they made time for her that day. dont get me wrong.. its only cause i have a job and pay a good amount every week for my policy that we have insurance, but i still think thats a better alternative.

as far as how i view canandians? they're no different than us and we're not different than them. i have spent alot of time up there and met alot of different people and the only difference i see is what flag they stand for.

i saw quite a few comments about how fiercely patriotic americans are compared to canadians and laughed. count how many times in this thread a canadian has made a patriotic statement like 'canada rocks' or 'i am canadian'. i was very suprised how the maple leaf was plastered over so many different logos and so many signs. i saw their flag waving in more places than i saw down here.. until 9/11 that is.

anyway.. i get so sick of everyone seperating themselves pointing out our differences as a means to think themselves better. i think Cynthetiq's (sorry about the misspelling there buddy) sig says it best.. no matter what race, color, nationality, religion you are, you're an asshole or you're not and visa versa. you're either a rightious dude/dudette or you're not. (i love that line from ferris :p)

i apologize for the rambling.

My wife and I spent our Honeymoon in Winnipeg, MB. I remember, as we crossed the border, seeing a posted speed limit of 100. Cool, thinks I, as I propel the Jeep toward ever increasing speeds. Then I noticed the *KPH* readings on my speedometer and considered myself a dumbass. Doh!

We were hungry as we rolled into Winnipeg, so we stopped at a McDonald's. Americans...pay heed here. Imagine a neatly made Big Mac (not all smushed up and oozing ick down the sides) eaten in a <b>*clean*</b> restaurant. That was the nicest McDonald's I have ever seen, before or since.

We were treated very well, by all with whom we came into contact. We found the Canadians to be nice, pleasant and very polite. Winnipeg is a beautiful, clean city, inhabited by a prideful citizenry.

I would have to say that our only negative experience came when we dined at a Chinese buffet restaurant (Foody Goody), that came highly recomended by an antique store owner, with whom we had come into contact earlier that day. We soon found ourselves wondering what exactly it was that we had done to piss her off so, as that had to be the *worst* Chinese buffet we have ever eaten. Ugh.

Overall, we had a *very* pleasant experience, and we do plan on making a return trip one day. Don't think we'll go to Foody Goody though...

Chinese food varies a lot by region, even in the USA.