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G_Whiz 05-23-2003 03:25 PM

Annika Sorenstam efforts
 
I'm curious about how everyone is reacting to all the news about Annika Sorenstam this week.

Now that she has officially missed the cut in the tournament, what are you reactions to the coverage about her playing in the Colonial Golf Tournament?

I have to admit that I am a golf nut, so I have been following this story for several months. I was hoping that she would do better, but she did show that she could compete with the guys. And she showed a lot of class in the way she handled herself.

I did think that the media overcovered this story. Because of all the media coverage of at the Masters, I suspect they saw this as the next BIG DEAL.

Frankly, the PGA Tour is not a men's tour. It is a tour of the best golfers. There is no question that Annika is the best golfer on the ladies tour, and this was a chance to show that she could compete against the men on their terms. I think she did.

Any comments?

HamiC 05-23-2003 03:40 PM

I think she did a heck of a job. She was classy, dignified, and yes, despite missing the cut, played very well. I hope to see her in future events.

j00d3df00 05-23-2003 03:50 PM

Watching the PGA Tour or the NBA or MLB or NFL is about watching the greatest competition available. Putting in a woman, clearly for the sake of having a woman in some token slot is insulting to the woman, and cheapens competition.

This whole thing, no matter how much BS media coverage and politically correct rhetoric around it, was really really bad. Annika was heralded as one of the 5 greatest women golfer's ever. Now we're going to spend the next three weeks listening to apologists go on about how this was supposedly good for women and the sport of golf. ::rollseyes::

That said, she's such a cutie. I would love to make out w/ her.

The_Dude 05-23-2003 04:23 PM

great that she did this, and i'm all for integration of the sexes.

but i just dont think a woman can compete at a level of men in the area of sports. that's why they need their own league.

HamiC 05-23-2003 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by j00d3df00
Watching the PGA Tour or the NBA or MLB or NFL is about watching the greatest competition available. Putting in a woman, clearly for the sake of having a woman in some token slot is insulting to the woman, and cheapens competition.


Despite missing the cut, she outright beat 10% of the field. The field consists of some of the greatest players in the world.

Hundreds of thousands of people play golf. A very small percentage play it competitively. A ridiculously small percentage can play at the PGA level. She can......and did. It doesn't matter what sex she is.

Don't watch if you don't want to.....that is certainly your right......but she deserves credit for playing at a level I -- and most golfers -- will never attain.

Glory's Sun 05-23-2003 04:56 PM

I don't see why she should play in the PGA when they have the LPGA. I mean I can understand wanting to test her skills and all but if she wants to do that I'd say she should enter into a real tournament and we'll really see what happens. I think she did well considering the pressure that was on her.

Liquor Dealer 05-23-2003 04:56 PM

I think it was great - I wish she hadn't f strung the string of bogies but I'm sure she regrets it much more. I would really hate to be one of the 8 she beat! I hope before its done someone rubs Singh's damned nose in it. For someone wanting to make noises about a minority he's a total damned hypocrite in what he did and said about her.

0rangejuice 05-23-2003 05:04 PM

She didn't do as well as I expected her to do. I thought it got waaay too much publicity, as much publicity she was getting I figured she was going to be competition to the top golfers on the PGA tour (I don't follow the LPGA, so I had never seen her play). She did alright, but I didn't think she did that well.

gov135 05-23-2003 05:05 PM

She is an unbelievably gifted athlete.

That said, she selected the tournament she felt she could do the best at (i.e. short and straight), she only beat 11 guys you never heard of, and she struggled throughout her last round. In other words, she'd look awfully silly teeing off at Firestone with the men.

I was interested as well, I commend her for grace under pressure, but I think that's the best result she could put up all year. She is the best, unquestionablly, female golfer. She needs to continue to excel there.

WhoaitsZ 05-23-2003 05:11 PM

wtf is annika sorenstam was my initial response. she the one who pestured the fuck out of the guys only club?

if so... i care less. i disagree with her.

Balaniki 05-23-2003 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by guccilvr
I don't see why she should play in the PGA when they have the LPGA. I mean I can understand wanting to test her skills and all but if she wants to do that I'd say she should enter into a real tournament and we'll really see what happens.
Between the years 1995 ands 2003 Annika won FORTY THREE "real" tournaments in the LPGA.

Maybe she got tired of playing against (and beating) people not as good as her? Maybe she wanted a BIGGER challange???

Glory's Sun 05-23-2003 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Balaniki
Between the years 1995 ands 2003 Annika won FORTY THREE "real" tournaments in the LPGA.

Maybe she got tired of playing against (and beating) people not as good as her? Maybe she wanted a BIGGER challange???

I understand that..but if I were her I'd stay where the money's at.. :cool: I want to see her in a tourney with Tiger, Phil, Ernie and the rest of em.. that will be a BIGGER challenge don't ya think??

ratbastid 05-23-2003 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhoaitsZ
wtf is annika sorenstam was my initial response. she the one who pestured the fuck out of the guys only club?

if so... i care less. i disagree with her.

You're thinking of Martha Burke. And that was old news three weeks ago.

Golf is a fast game, man! Gotta keep up! ;)

Mondak 05-23-2003 06:04 PM

I think that the PGA should be the best players in the world. It is crapola that Bank of America got her in, but if she made the cut, then I want the best players in the world in the finals. That includes women and everyone else.

I think it would mean more if she had played her way in is all.

Oh yeah and as far as the LPGA is concerned - no one really cares what happens there so the argument that men should be allowed to play in it is BS. The level of talent there is WAY less. Let the women have a league to compete against their peers. No men needed.

Phaenx 05-23-2003 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Dude
great that she did this, and i'm all for integration of the sexes.

but i just dont think a woman can compete at a level of men in the area of sports. that's why they need their own league.

Yes, especially in sports that highlight the upper body strength area. No way you're going to hit a ball like a man will. I won't let anyone tell me a woman can do any physical action a man can, because it simply isn't true. Don't get me wrong, I think women are great, but facts are facts.

gibber71 05-23-2003 06:23 PM

Well,it's nice they let her play..Of course there will be people that will say this wasn't a test and so on,...and that if she wasn't under the gun she would have done better and so on,...but so what. I say let her play the entire year and then see how well she does. If she does great,..then she will open the door to more women and change the world of golf all together. If she fucks up,..end of discussion,..

ninety09 05-23-2003 06:32 PM

I don't think she should've been there.
They would never invite a guy to play in the LPGA, would they?

gibber71 05-23-2003 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gibber71
Well,it's nice they let her play..Of course there will be people that will say this wasn't a test and so on,...and that if she wasn't under the gun she would have done better and so on,...but so what. I say let her play the entire year and then see how well she does. If she does great,..then she will open the door to more women and change the world of golf all together. If she fucks up,..end of discussion,..
But then again to be fair...maybe if the PGA let's in women to compete,,...then the LPGA will let the best amateur men without tour cards play. I say what's good for the goose,...

rogue49 05-23-2003 06:57 PM

I loved it.
She did great considering the pressure on her.
She still kicked many of the other competitors asses.

All the more power to her.

WhoaitsZ 05-23-2003 07:01 PM

ummmmmmmmmmm

okay

apparantly there an unseen shield covering my eyes. i can't figure out who she is.

i think i must have banged my head without knowing

or my brain is leaking out

who is she?

Leander 05-23-2003 07:22 PM

Its been a long time since I really followed a round of golf on tv, and it has been longer since I cared about every shot a golfer played. She challenged herself and the course today, and congratulations to her. It was all about her testing herself. I am just glad she got the chance.

sixate 05-23-2003 08:02 PM

I'm glad she didn't make the cut. Keep you ass on the LPGA tour where you belong!

Do I think women can compete with men at lame sports like golf, tennis, and dishes? Hell yeah. Those sports have nothing to do with being strong and having superior strength and quickness. I don't want to see coed sports. I can't stand watching women play any sports. It bores me and almost everyone else to death. Just look at the WNBA.... I don't know anyone with a dick that watches that crap. Women are not even close to being as athletic, aggressive, and strong as guys.

One last thing. Golfers are not superior athletes. Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Lewis are superior athletes. I'm not saying golf is easy, but there's little athletic ability involved.

G_Whiz 05-23-2003 08:06 PM

OK, now recognize that she's the first woman to try to compete on against the PGA pros in 58 years. She has dominated the LPGA and she took the challenge.

She had the media all over her. She had bigger galleries following her than show up at most LPGA events. And, she still managed to play well.

Now, think about this. There is a 13 year old girl who has been invited to play several LPGA events. This girl's last name is Wie and she already can drive the ball over 300 yards. She placed in the top 10 in an LPGA event in Hawaii this year. Anyone still think that women won't be able to compete against PGA pros?

I think Annika can now. But the future will bring more women who will not feel that they are restricted because she showed the way and they will be even better.

ND_Ranger 05-23-2003 11:00 PM

She competed and beat out ten percent of the field. I'd put money on that 10% all having bad days. Personally, I don't see that anything has changed. She didn't even make the cut. That means she wasn't even in like the top 50%. If you aren't in the top 50%, you are not competing.

Phaenx 05-23-2003 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sixate
One last thing. Golfers are not superior athletes. Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, and Ray Lewis are superior athletes. I'm not saying golf is easy, but there's little athletic ability involved.
Eh, I wouldn't call them athletes either, but I would say golf takes an asston of dexterity and finesse. It's a very hard craft to master, but doesn't take anywhere near the physical prowess football, wrestling, baskettball, etc requires.

ratbastid 05-24-2003 05:18 AM

The thing that bugs me about this is the way people have assumed that Annika is making a political statement about it all. She's not! She just wants to compete at the next level, because she's a born competitor and that's what she does.

This whole thing started as a joke, a reporter asked her if she'd play a PGA event if invited, and she said sure. So the organizers at the Colonial saw publicity and dollar signs, and made an invitation, and true to her word, she accepted.... There's nothing political or feminist about it.

I think she's awesome, I wish I swung a club the way she does, and I'm proud of her for putting on the showing that she did. It's just regrettable about that string of bogeys late yesterday... Oh well.

Hey, and she was an AMAZING sport about the whole thing. In the press cluster-fuck (usually it's a press conference, but not in this case) after her 18th, she said, "I've climbed as high as I can, and it was worth every step. I don't regret anything about coming here. If a lady is good enough to get an invite or she qualifies, she should have every right to come here. I didn't want it to end. I tested myself from start to finish. That's why I was here."

In your FACE, Vijay!!!


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