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TexanAvenger 01-10-2005 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Unlike computer software or a movie DVD where you only buy a license to play or view it, you are actually buying the car. It's yours and yours alone. The manufacturer, insurance company, and especially the government have zero right or authority to force a 'black box' addition to your vehicle. Now, its POSSIBLE that your insurance company could make this a pre-requisite in order to provide you with cheaper insurance but it certainly shouldn't be mandatory

How do you figure that the government can't force you to have stuff in your car? They force seatbelts, don't they? My question would be as to whether or not they would, not if they could.

pinoychink790 01-10-2005 07:13 PM

If every car in the future had black boxes like that. It would be a little weird. I wouldn't want people to be recording my driving habits. That's kind of personal, and I don't think they will be able to keep track of all those thousands of people who drive. But then again, we never know what will happen in the future....

MSD 01-10-2005 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Unlike computer software or a movie DVD where you only buy a license to play or view it, you are actually buying the car. It's yours and yours alone. The manufacturer, insurance company, and especially the government have zero right or authority to force a 'black box' addition to your vehicle. Now, its POSSIBLE that your insurance company could make this a pre-requisite in order to provide you with cheaper insurance but it certainly shouldn't be mandatory

The manufacturer can put whatever they want on their vehicles. It's your choice to buy it. Insurance companies can choose to do business solely with customers who own black box cars, but they won't because it isn't the most profitable thing to do. The government has no right to mandate it, but they eventually will because we let them.

dksuddeth 01-11-2005 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TexanAvenger
How do you figure that the government can't force you to have stuff in your car? They force seatbelts, don't they? My question would be as to whether or not they would, not if they could.

I'll rephrase, the government shouldn't be able to force you to have things in your car. Seatbelts were forced by insurance companies to minimize their losses due to accidents or lawsuits. They used the relevant safety data to convince the public.

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Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
The manufacturer can put whatever they want on their vehicles. It's your choice to buy it. Insurance companies can choose to do business solely with customers who own black box cars, but they won't because it isn't the most profitable thing to do. The government has no right to mandate it, but they eventually will because we let them.

this is how I should have worded it, staying away from the word 'forced'. thanks.

troit 01-12-2005 08:02 AM

Not sure if I agree with the use of these - never been a fan of big brother, even if it is for our own good. ;)


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