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Strange Famous 12-15-2004 02:39 PM

If this is true, is it a new low?
 
I cant actually believe this could either be made, or allowed to be made... but its reported:


"FOX is turning a grown adopted child's search for her father into a reality/game show called "Who's Your Daddy."

On the Jan. 3, 90-minute special, the woman will face eight men — one is her father, and the fakes' goal is to trick her into thinking they are.

If, after three elimination rounds, she picks out her real father, she wins $100,000. If she picks the wrong one, the fake daddy gets the big-bucks prize. — Post TV Staff"


http://nypost.com/entertainment/32744.htm

Samalie 12-15-2004 02:45 PM

As an adoptee myself, this is beyond low. Fucking Fox should ahve their license revoked for bullshit like this.

What's next out of them? "Who Wants To Marry My Pigheaded Transgendered Adoptive Brother In Law?"

Of course, what else do you expect from Fox?

Ripsaw 12-15-2004 02:53 PM

Adults making adult decisions. Her business, her choice. Don't watch.

A network capitalizing on that fact that millions WILL watch.

Welcome to America.

Coppertop 12-15-2004 02:55 PM

Yeah, Fox gets my respect. :rolleyes:

Coppertop 12-15-2004 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripsaw
Adults making adult decisions. Her business, her choice. Don't watch.

A network capitalizing on that fact that millions WILL watch.

Welcome to America.

Because you can doesn't always mean you should.

FngKestrel 12-15-2004 02:58 PM

That's right up there with their "When Animals Attack" specials.

I'm waiting for the "When Animals Attack Who's Your Daddy"

Seriously, on my TV, the first thing I did was delete about 85% of the channels so I wouldn't get inundated with this crap.

Cadwiz 12-15-2004 02:58 PM

I don't have much to say about this other than, if it is true, I will be exercising my right to not watch.

blitz.fenix 12-15-2004 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadwiz
I don't have much to say about this other than, if it is true, I will be exercising my right to not watch.

Yup, best way to protest, usually up here in Canada, Fox's shows aren't at all popular and they aren't shown after the initial season. Good riddance.

Jimellow 12-15-2004 03:03 PM

Does she still get re-united with her father regardless?

If she doesn't pick her real dad and thus loses the opportunity at $100 grand, does she then become pissed at him for not "doing better in proving himself," and thus doesn't want to be with him after all?

Throw money into any situation and it will get shitty, fast.

vox_rox 12-15-2004 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ripsaw
Adults making adult decisions. Her business, her choice. Don't watch.

A network capitalizing on that fact that millions WILL watch.

Welcome to America.

Two things:

First - The "don't watch" thing is a great way of saying "shut the fuck up Fox" although if they get enough sponsors for the show, they may not care what you say. Money talks.

Secondly, you're right millions will watch, and what a repulsive reality that it. My gawd, a truly sad commentary on the state of American, and for that matter North American culture.

Oh well, I'm still waiting for the reality show "watch a television executive eat his own arm," but I'm not holding my breath for that one. Dare to dream...

Peace,

Pierre

JumpinJesus 12-15-2004 03:26 PM

While I'm sure this is probably a hoax, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to be real.

ICER 12-15-2004 03:28 PM

I agree it's low but as the saying goes "if you appeal to the lowest common dominator, you will always have success" just look at Jerry Springer

My form of protest is just not to watch it. And discourage anyone else from doing so. Of course if you really want to kick them where it hurts. Protest to the sponsors by pickets and banning. Because in the end. It's all about the money.

World's King 12-15-2004 03:28 PM

I'm gonna have my own reality show.


"The Guy That Lives In His Mom's Basement That Has No Friends."

It's gonna be great. You can watch me masturbate for and hour then I vote an empty can of Dr.Peper off my desk.

sadistikdreams 12-15-2004 03:33 PM

OKAY!
This is wrong.

Since I know alot of you are currently residing in the USA, you can do something about it.

While sharing your opinions on a forum like this is good, it doesn't do shit.

What you ought to do is call up FOX and complain. Most people would rather just sit and bitch then call up the station. Alot of people think it wouldn't work. Nobody is calling up the stations and complaining about these reality shows. That why they've gotten this low.

So, my challege to you:
If you don't like this show idea, boycott it, and call FOX. Voice a complaint.

Cadwiz 12-15-2004 03:33 PM

I thought you had an alliance with the Dr.Pepper can. What did it ever do to you?

Cadwiz 12-15-2004 03:37 PM

I think from previous discussion on the topic of complaining to the networks, it take s relatively few complaints to change the content of what they are airing. Which is good if you want to get something off the air. It is also bad if something you want to see might offend a few people.

Jimellow 12-15-2004 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadwiz
I think from previous discussion on the topic of complaining to the networks, it take s relatively few complaints to change the content of what they are airing. Which is good if you want to get something off the air. It is also bad if something you want to see might offend a few people.

Good point.

*Nikki* 12-15-2004 03:49 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that this is not really that bad??

Lebell 12-15-2004 03:58 PM

Nikki,

No, you aren't the only one.

Tasteless, maybe, but bad?

No one is forced to participate, no one is forced to watch.

Rdr4evr 12-15-2004 04:14 PM

Just when you think reality TV cannot stoop any lower, FOX proves us wrong once again.

It seems every channel I flip through has some sort of "reality" show that is just so incredibly asinine that it is beyond comprehension people actually view it. As if enough people are not stupid enough, they watch these shows religiously and become even more stupid (if that is possible).

But like some of you say, no one is forcing you to watch. It would be better to turn off the TV anyway and involve yourself in something more worthwhile.

Coppertop 12-15-2004 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdr4evr
But like some of you say, no one is forcing you to watch. It would be better to turn off the TV anyway and involve yourself in something more worthwhile.

Unfortunately this isn't going to happen anytime soon. Of all the addictions people bemoan, you seldom hear television among them. Quite telling I think. Unless and until people demand quality programming (why do you think it's called that, hmm?) this kind of shite will be aired. I hate the fact that my girl has gotten me to fall off the wagon and back onto the couch. Bleah.

Grasshopper Green 12-15-2004 07:07 PM

This is a first class example of why I don't watch television.

Ustwo 12-15-2004 07:58 PM

People felt the same way about who wants to marry a millionare.

Then it became main stream.

AquaFox 12-15-2004 08:25 PM

if this does go on air, i think it's complaint letter time, anyone with me?

Avail 12-15-2004 08:29 PM

If you haven't noticed, TV has been filled with the reality show craze. Amazing Race is on their like 8th season, Survivor has more seasons than I have fingers and toes (cough exaggeration cough). The worst so far has been The Swan. It gives a message that shows even if you look better, you're still not good enough.

Fremen 12-15-2004 10:08 PM

I just saw a promo on Fox an hour or so ago about this show, so it's going to happen.
:|

OFKU0 12-15-2004 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
People felt the same way about who wants to marry a millionare.

Then it became main stream.

Just like 100 Huntley Street, Ernest Aingley, Jerry Falwell and Jim Baker. And look where we are now!

guthmund 12-15-2004 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samalie
"Who Wants To Marry My Pigheaded Transgendered Adoptive Brother In Law?"

Of course, what else do you expect from Fox?

I don't watch a lot of television these days and especially not "reality" tv, but I have to say....I'd tune in for that. ;)

The odds on finding a 'pigheaded transgendered adoptive brother in law' would be astronomical I'd bet. Maybe a reality show before the reality show like the open casting part of American Idol to find the 'pigheaded transgendered adoptive brother in law.' Come on, that would be fan-tab-ulous.

Just having a bit of fun.

On a serious note, you seem to single out Fox for programming like this. NBC has a plethora of disgusting "marry off" the nearest relative shows, not to mention Fear Factor, where we get to watch every combination of "average" joe square off to show their prowess at eating monkey testicles. CBS fares little better. They don't seem to have as many shows like this, but they kicked off this 'reality' craze with Survivor, which has to be, hands down, the most over-hyped show....ever.

Now Fox may have some of the stupidest (yes, I said it. stupidest) ideas for these shows, but all the networks are guilty of pushing this shit. Don't like it, don't watch it. I wouldn't hold my breath for the networks to stop pushing this crap. We love to delight in other's misery. Television gives us the medium to participate in the schadenfreudian (is that even a word?) experiment on a grand scale.

12-15-2004 11:36 PM

I have gotten rid of my television and cable service. It is shit for the mind. You, need to do more then simply not watch. Not watching is still becoming complacent to the way of life perpetuated by television. It is a controlling factor that teachs us how to interact with people, what to ask, how to speak, what to think and how to feel. In subtle ways the information that you absorb from TV works it's way into your lifestyle.

Ishmal 12-15-2004 11:46 PM

only in America...




no offence to any Americans here!

Nisses 12-16-2004 01:21 AM

tasteless, from title to concept

Dostoevsky 12-16-2004 04:45 AM

I don't know, it sounds like a pretty catchy show to me. You can criticize Fox all you want, but bottom line, they have to program shows that produce ratings.

If you want to place blame, doesn't it have to go on the viewers who support shows like this. Fox is just giving the people what they want, sensationalism, can you blame them for it? I really can't. After all, it's just business.

Macheath 12-16-2004 06:28 AM

Hasn't Maury Povich been doing something like this for a while now? :crazy:

lurkette 12-16-2004 07:27 AM

This is pretty bad, but I don't know if it's a new low. I thought the one where 6 couples competed to adopt a baby was pretty bad. And "The Swan" is pretty awful. Frankly, when you're scraping the bottom of the bucket it's all pretty disgusting.

Cynthetiq 12-16-2004 08:03 AM

I'm currently working on some script technology that all the reality shows are using and I'm learing lots about the reality world.

First and foremost, yes this is real. It was in the trade magazines long ago.

Second, there's lots to be said for reality programming from a production standpoint.

It's easy to produce and doesn't require lots of overhead costs.

As far as them not replaying them after the first season in Canada, they don't really play them here either. They may get a summer rerun but that's very rare (only saw that with the Paris Hilton Simple Life show)

It doesn't take many millions to make a show a hit. Since the advent of cable tv, the demographics have become very fragmented and for a cable show to be a #1 hit it just has to get about 1 million viewers. Pittance compared to the broadcasts of the years gone by where 10 million people watched The Jeffersons.

water_boy1999 12-16-2004 11:42 AM

I don't watch TV for just these reasons. Ok, I do watch a little, but it is mostly sports and educational programming. An occasional movie or two.

I thought that "The Biggest Loser" was one of the most senseless and insulting reality programs. When will it stop?

aurigus 12-16-2004 11:50 AM

I saw a teaser for this show, so I know it is real (unless Fox is pulling a big one).

I think this is less harmless than shows like "The Swan"

tooth 12-16-2004 12:25 PM

I actually screamed obscenities at my television last night when I saw the ad for this show. Freaks.

Cynthetiq 12-16-2004 12:27 PM

this is no different than the daytime talk show subjects... it just happens to be molded into a different format.

laconic1 12-16-2004 03:18 PM

I actually laughed when I saw the promo for this. Of course I'm just a sick bastard who is easily amused.

Dezeba 12-16-2004 04:51 PM

I have a question for all those who think it's "a new low." What is your position on porn? I bring this up because to me, it is the same underlined issue.
These reality shows really upset people. They say that the participents are being degraded and the netwoks are capitalizing on them and their emotions and how disgusting this is. People have been saying for years how disgusting and digrating porn is, but it is a huge money making industry and not a hot topic for conversation. It's been years since I heard anyone talk about how outraged they are by porn.

bparker805 12-16-2004 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadwiz
I thought you had an alliance with the Dr.Pepper can. What did it ever do to you?

Am I the only one that found this statement to be absolutely brilliant? :thumbsup:

Psycho Dad 12-16-2004 04:58 PM

By all means everyone should complain. And they shouldn't stop here. We should complain about the music we don't care for on the radio. Let's protest against the books that are published we don't agree with. Let's raise a ruckus over magazines that other people enjoy. By golly... if we don't fucking care for it it has to go!

As someone pointed out, if you don't like it, don't watch. the television netwoks are not going to do any better job making everyone happy than our politicians are. Worse shit than a tasteless television concept slapped the world in the face with its dick today. This ain't that bad in comparison.

roderickpsu 12-16-2004 06:19 PM

I hear that shit is real. As long as they know what they are getting into, hopefully it doesn't fuck with their emotions too much.

cyrnel 12-16-2004 07:01 PM

Hit the switch.

http://www.whitedot.org/welikeit.html

anleja 12-16-2004 08:01 PM

Shouldn't television have elevated itself from this habit of playing this kind of insulting crap by now? Imagine in 500 years, when archeologists find the tapes of our television shows buried in the rubble of our modern society. They will say "no wonder their culture took a sudden drop beginning the 20th century... this Television contraption turned people into callous morons!"

I agree with a couple posters... not as bad as The Swan. Yay, now you're TRULY beautiful! You win! Now you can enjoy the great life which was always out of your reach in the past... (brought to you by Proctor & Gamble)

rfra3645 12-18-2004 06:38 AM

this whole thing cant be any worse than that poor girl who fucked up her whole familly by faking the marragie to the fat slobby bastard.

i heard they still dint talk like they used too....

sounds typical fox to me..

connyosis 12-18-2004 05:43 PM

Is this going to be bad TV? Probably.
Should we care? No. No one is forcing the people in this show to be in it. It's of their own free will they chose to join. It's of your own free will you choose to watch it or not. No need to get all upset about this, there are far worse things around the world to be upset about.

LIMilf 12-19-2004 07:23 AM

When I first heard about this show, I thought it was a fucking joke, but I can not believe its real. It wouldnt be that bad if the lady was just gonna be reunited with her father, but she has to guess? And to top it off, other people are going to try to act like they are her father just to fool he and win money? Horrible.

Avail 12-19-2004 02:35 PM

It's affirmed, I just saw a commercial for the show on Fox while watching some NFL football. Humanity has reached a new low.

Faygo 12-19-2004 03:53 PM

I hate television. I only surf the net now at least I control what crap I view.

biznatch 12-19-2004 07:20 PM

See, I wouldn't mind any of this if American TV wasn't setting standards for the rest of the world.
In France, they started airing these copies of "Joe Millionaire" re-named "Greg le Millionaire" with diff actors, same storyline and same bullshit.
I don't mind Starbucks poppin' up in Paris; Macdonald's saddens me a bit, though..
I wish the world would only receive what's positive about the US, and not this load of crap polluting our TV.

Psycho Dad 12-19-2004 07:38 PM

I hardly doubt that US television is setting any standard for international TV. These shows are ripped off of others shows all over the globe.

FngKestrel 12-20-2004 12:01 AM

But people everywhere love Baywatch!

MacGuyver 12-20-2004 11:45 PM

FOX is a terrible network. The only worthwile show on FOX is 24, without a doubt. Because it is all fictional. I hate reality TV. I dont want to see some douchebag pretend he's a millionare and fool everybody. I dont want to see how much weight the fat people can lose ONLY because they are being driven by money (they should want to lose it just for the sake of losing their weight, not because of bribes and a tv show). And I dont want to see a bunch of people 'stranded' on an island for awhile with no supplies and no technology, well except the cameras and crews filming them... go figure. You want to see REAL reality tv? Get a camera to follow me to work so America can watch me make your double cheeseburgers for minimum wage for 8 hours a night.

Mephisto2 12-21-2004 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacGuyver
You want to see REAL reality tv? Get a camera to follow me to work so America can watch me make your double cheeseburgers for minimum wage for 8 hours a night.

I like this sentiment.


Mr Mephisto

Psycho Dad 12-21-2004 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacGuyver
Get a camera to follow me to work so America can watch me make your double cheeseburgers for minimum wage for 8 hours a night.

I think America is more ready for full frontal nudity on TV than that.

biznatch 12-21-2004 08:30 AM

Fox sucks major ass. Even people from other countries know how bad a network it is.

Cervantes 12-21-2004 10:46 AM

"Who's Your Daddy." ... Hmmm sound's like a bad porno to me..

Jokes aside, Reality shows sucks in general but this is even worse. Exploiting someone this way.. man truly a new low.

gr8-4pla 12-21-2004 12:48 PM

they ran out of ideas and they're just putting on anything they can to "try" and get ratings...damn i hate reality shows

The Prophet 12-22-2004 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AquaFox
if this does go on air, i think it's complaint letter time, anyone with me?


FOX Broadcasting Co.
P.O. Box 900
Beverly Hills, CA 90213

I am.

Shpoop 12-22-2004 05:29 AM

i think its bad, but i dont think it is as bad as "The Swan"

makeovers for everyone, then a beauty paegant...that made me sick

The Prophet 12-22-2004 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by connyosis
Is this going to be bad TV? Probably.
Should we care? No. No one is forcing the people in this show to be in it. It's of their own free will they chose to join. It's of your own free will you choose to watch it or not. No need to get all upset about this, there are far worse things around the world to be upset about.

Tell us what is worse. And then prove that this shit is not all tied together. If you think this kind of shit doesn't matter you are wrong. People are just plain fucking stupid sometimes, and instead of trying to evolve, we just become more complaisant.

It effects every level of our society and everyone in it.

sashime76 12-22-2004 05:45 AM

The ONLY reality show I watch is watching my two boys at play. Fox sports is great but none of the reality shows gets my vote.

biznatch 12-22-2004 12:18 PM

The invention of reality shows itself is an aberration. Why don't people live their own lives instead looking at the fucked up misery of those tools on the TV?
its sad, but many peoples lives are lived through those of others.

1010011010 12-22-2004 01:16 PM

The best form of protest is to watch.

Then write letters to the sponsors explaining how you saw their commercials during Show X, how you can't believe they would endorse Show X, and how you have lost faith in their Brand due to its association with Show X.

Edit: You could also consider complaining to the FCC.

Coppertop 12-22-2004 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1010011010
The best form of protest is to watch.

Then write letters to the sponsors explaining how you saw their commercials during Show X, how you can't believe they would endorse Show X, and how you have lost faith in their Brand due to its association with Show X.

Ooh, that's a good one. But instead of all of us having to watch that tripe, perhaps someone could take one for the team - watch it, then post what the commercials were. Maximum bang for the buck I should think.

thecoldone33 12-22-2004 02:56 PM

I hope that this stupid idea will turn away all future shows that could do somthing like this and hopefully get rid of all these stupid shows that have already invaded my Television. Especially on fox.

Psycho Dad 12-22-2004 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Prophet
Tell us what is worse.

Somewhere today a child had a school lunch and it was the only nutritious meal he will get today. Somewhere a child didn't even get the school lunch. Somewhere an insecure asshole gave his wife/girlfriend two black eyes and she has no idea what to do to get out of that situation. An old person somewhere is sitting in a cold dark room tonight due to not being able to afford to heat their home adequately. Someone may very well die from exposure tonight because they don’t even have a home at all.

I realize you were likely making some comment on the decline of our society, but bad television is hardly the root cause of it. And if we think we can blame TV for what is truly bad in the world, we are never going to solve any of our problems.

Ustwo 12-22-2004 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppertop
Ooh, that's a good one. But instead of all of us having to watch that tripe, perhaps someone could take one for the team - watch it, then post what the commercials were. Maximum bang for the buck I should think.

You would write to complain about a show, that you yourself did not watch, just because you assume its going to be bad?

Pretty closed minded don't ya think?

Coppertop 12-22-2004 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo
You would write to complain about a show, that you yourself did not watch, just because you assume its going to be bad?

Pretty closed minded don't ya think?

Assume? You bet your ass. Fox doesn't exactly have a good track record regarding these shows. The very concept of this show is wrong. I fail to see how any implementation of the show's premise is going to be good.

I wouldn't have to get bent over a table and raped by Fox to know I wouldn't like it. Yes, I can assume it's going to suck. Guess I'm just close minded.

MacGuyver 12-22-2004 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1010011010
The best form of protest is to watch.

Then write letters to the sponsors explaining how you saw their commercials during Show X, how you can't believe they would endorse Show X, and how you have lost faith in their Brand due to its association with Show X.

Edit: You could also consider complaining to the FCC.

Still gets them ratings though.

Coppertop 12-22-2004 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacGuyver
Still gets them ratings though.

Only if said person is part of a Nielsen family, as they're called.

pattycakes 12-22-2004 06:52 PM

as much as you hate the idea i bet you watch one episode or part of one ;)

omega2K4 12-22-2004 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
this is no different than the daytime talk show subjects... it just happens to be molded into a different format.

Ditto. You see the same shit on Jerry Springer/Ricki Lake/Maury Povich/etc.


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