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Raleighbum 11-08-2004 12:19 PM

You own/carry a Gun?
 
That thread where the psycho asssaulted the car got me curious:

How many of you Tilted people own or carry a GUN for emergencies like that?

The inspiring thread was this:
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=75161

FailedEagle 11-08-2004 12:37 PM

I have two guns . . . (perhaps this should be under the Weapon thread?) I .22 caliber rifle and one 12 gauge shotgun, both are used for recreation and hunting.

cj2112 11-08-2004 12:53 PM

I own a few firearms, and have a concealed weapons permit. I currently carry a Kel-Tec P11 9mm pistol with me almost everywhere I go. I don't go looking for trouble. I honestly hope I never have to draw it in defense of myself or my family. However I do shoot about 150 rounds of ammo a month, so that in the event I have to use my weapon, I am able to hit what I am shooting at and not hit any innocent bystanders who may be near my target. I also carry a cell phone to call for assistance, which I have done on a couple occasions when drawing my gun was not my best option.

...btw, yes had I been in that vehicle or even seen what was happening, I would have engaged that individual.

RAGEAngel9 11-08-2004 01:04 PM

This is my rifle. This is my gun.
This is for fighting. This is for fun.

So yes, I have a gun and I use it often.

It also tends to go off when I clean it. :thumbsup:

*edit* ug dammit
Sorry about the double post.

Raleighbum 11-08-2004 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FailedEagle
I have two guns . . . (perhaps this should be under the Weapon thread?) I .22 caliber rifle and one 12 gauge shotgun, both are used for recreation and hunting.

Posted here to get the REAL idea... Everyone at the Firearms-corner surely has a piece or ten...

Blackthorn 11-08-2004 01:48 PM

I own a variety of firearms but I never just carry them with me. They are unlocked and taken out for a purpose like going to the range or hunting, etc.

spindles 11-08-2004 01:50 PM

Well, our country does not allow firearms to be carried - safer for everyone concerned IMHO.

Lasereth 11-08-2004 01:55 PM

Where's the option "No, but I wish I did?"

-Lasereth

timalkin 11-08-2004 01:57 PM

Add me to the list of gun carriers. It goes everywhere I go. I also carry pepper spray and a cell phone for situations that demand a less lethal approach.

MSD 11-08-2004 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spindles
Well, our country does not allow firearms to be carried - safer for everyone concerned IMHO.

Safer until someone who doesn't think he needs to obey the law goes on a shooting spree.

I don't own or carry now, but both will be changing this spring or summer.

radioguy 11-08-2004 02:40 PM

i don't own one, but may in the future. i'm not a big fan of them. they're loud.

Rlyss 11-08-2004 04:37 PM

I'm not sure of the exact gun laws in Australia but I think that we need some pretty good reasons to have a gun licence, like we're farmers or something. They don't hand gun licences out like candy and unless you have a real good reason it's hard to get one.

So no, I don't have a gun (I have plenty of realistic toys from when I was a kid) and I wouldn't want a real gun in my house.

BigGov 11-08-2004 04:39 PM

I only have about 20 some various hunting guns. About 1/3 rifles and 2/3 shotguns.

Coppertop 11-08-2004 04:57 PM

No, no gun for me. Been to gun shows, own several books and have spent far too much of my life learning about them but never got around to owning one. Were I to carry one I would use it. And that would be bad. As it is the deadliest thing I wield is a mouse. But that only bruises egos.

Cobalt_60 11-08-2004 06:47 PM

Yes I own Colt 1991A stainless .45 caliber pistol. I do carry it on occasion in my truck in a holster with an extra magazine loaded with Federal Hydrashoks. I'm not registered to carry my hand gun concealed but next year when I save up for the class and the license fee I will be getting my license. Then I'll be looking into purchasing a pistol to carry all the time in my truck. I wonder if the local ranges accept credit cards for the CHL course? Maybe I should look into it this weekend. CHL stands for Conceald Handgun License in my neck of the woods. After watching that video I would want to shoot that guy myself. But when all is said and done I'd be found at fault of course.

Maveric 11-08-2004 06:50 PM

I'm from Texas.... nuff said.

-Mav

bullmoose 11-08-2004 06:56 PM

I always have a gun handy, in the house and car, and on rare occasion carry one. I have a responsibilty to protect myself and my family. Having known many victims of crime, I have resolved not to be one.

Lockjaw 11-08-2004 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth
Where's the option "No, but I wish I did?"

-Lasereth

Ditto. Don't have one yet but I plan on getting a couple when I get fiscally stablized enough to afford a house.
Probably would never actually carry on me even though concealed hand guns are legal in Texas. I figure if I'm ever in a position where I NEED a gun on me I likely screwed up in a major way and I likely deserve whatever is coming to me.

If I get anything it likely will be more from a historical standpoint like a lot of people collect old swords. I dearly want a 1911 Colt .45 handgun. An M1 Garrand, Mauser K98, M16, AR-15, and a Thompson sub machine gun. I REALLY want the Thompson I've always been almost in love with that gun. Guess I watched too many WW2 and Gangster movies as a kid.

spindles 11-08-2004 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrSelfDestruct
Safer until someone who doesn't think he needs to obey the law goes on a shooting spree.

I don't own or carry now, but both will be changing this spring or summer.

I'm not sure having passers-by deciding to "take out" such a shooter would actually help the situation.

It is not particularly easy to get a gun here - there are few reasons why you would get one legally because most people don't need one. Sure, there are criminals here who have them, but by and large violent crime is not really a problem.

Shirtninja 11-08-2004 07:46 PM

I own a few rifles/shotguns, but no pistols at the moment. I plan to change that someday when I get enough extra money and will probably get my CHL then.

Stompy 11-08-2004 07:55 PM

I wanna buy an Uzi... just because I can! (Especially now that it's legal to do so!)

StormBerlin 11-08-2004 07:57 PM

I don't own a gun yet, but as soon as I am 21 I'll be purchasing a handgun and my Concealed Carry Permit.

Boo 11-08-2004 08:00 PM

I carry when out in the bush, fishing or when ATVing. Da Bears are big up here.

If I had to carry one around town, I would move.

sailor 11-08-2004 09:13 PM

I own several. I dont carry (not old enough for a CCW in the first place, not sure Id carry even if I was).

JustDisGuy 11-08-2004 09:37 PM

I sold all my weapons when the gov't instituted their ridiculous firearms registry and accompanying bullshit laws. Because I work in a law enforcement branch of the federal government, I felt it would be hypocritical to not comply with the law, but I refused on moral grounds to do so, and so I was left with little choice.

Since that time, I've decided to shelve my morality in favour of home defense, and have begun acquiring weapons again in compliance with the ridiculous bullshit laws. Too many crazies, both domestic and foreign, not to be well armed. *EDIT - Although that doesn't mean I'm in favour of legal carry for Joe Citizen. The Yankees have pretty much proven the point that the more guns there are floating around, the more people get killed. /EDIT

I hope the only thing I ever have to point my rifle at has four legs.

turbofish 11-09-2004 02:58 AM

I'm from Sweden. Guns are highly regulated. Getting one isn't a picnic and the Swedish Police fire less than 10 bullets every year. Every shooting (by the police) is investigated.

On the subject of owning a gun, for example 9mm, you need to be a member of a shooting club. You start with the smallest bullets and need alot of experiance and shooting test to move upp to a bigger bullet. Getting a permit to own a 9mm gun takes a lot of time. Carrying on you? Forget about it!

Personally I would be scared shitless of getting in a fierce discussion in the US. Either they can sue your or they can pull a concieled gun! :crazy:

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDisGuy
I sold all my weapons when the gov't instituted their ridiculous firearms registry and accompanying bullshit laws.

I'm interested in knowing how it's a bullshit law... Doesn't this *help* law enforcement?

jwoody 11-09-2004 03:07 AM

Never had one. Never wanted one. Don't know anybody who owns one.

ninety09 11-09-2004 03:38 AM

Don't have one, don't need one, don't want one.

RolandGilead 11-09-2004 05:35 AM

I am really glad that I live in a region where you don`t need any guns.
I tell my girlfriend though that she should have pepperspray with her when she goes out at night.

d*d 11-09-2004 05:41 AM

Don't have one, find it a little unsettling to see how many people feel the need to carry one - I live in acountry where it's not a common practice to carry one and I hope it stays that way, in fact I see no reason, except for the armed forces, to make them

avhg1 11-09-2004 06:10 AM

I used to have two shotguns for hunting, but I currently don't have any only because I have small children in the house and it's a risk I'm not willing to take with my kids. Once they are older, I will probably buy a handgun for practice at the range.

animosity 11-09-2004 11:41 AM

I do not own a gun for the saftey of others. I have a problem with rage. If I owned, or had access to a firearm many people would be burried in my back yard right now.

I have no problem with guns though. One day I would like to get a nice hunting rifle. I really want some fresh deer meat.

rockogre 11-09-2004 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maveric
I'm from Texas.... nuff said.

-Mav


Same for Western Oklahoma. I don't carry one around with me but I usually have more than one knife on me. It's a strange world out there.

timalkin 11-09-2004 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stompy
I wanna buy an Uzi... just because I can! (Especially now that it's legal to do so!)

Do you care to explain this comment? Or are you just trolling?

ARTelevision 11-09-2004 01:15 PM

Living on isolated acreage here in the country, I see my guns as simply an important part of life.

Lebell 11-09-2004 01:32 PM

Yes and Yes.

kel 11-09-2004 01:47 PM

I own a few firearms.
My state barely allows me the right to keep them much less bear them (openly or concealed).
Fucking hippies think I don't have the right to defend myself.

kel 11-09-2004 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timalkin
Do you care to explain this comment? Or are you just trolling?

What's to explain? They are legal, always have been, and he can do it if he wants. semi-auto Uzi's are cheap and fun to shoot, the larger size of an Uzi helps tame the recoil quite a bit. Makes a better pistol than an SMG IMO. Now the full-auto Uzi =) ...

spindles 11-09-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARTelevision
Living on isolated acreage here in the country, I see my guns as simply an important part of life.

Just curious - Is it wildlife of the two legged or four legged variety that you need this for?

NosVette 11-09-2004 02:14 PM

I do not own a gun, nor do I intend on ever doing so. I instead carry two things with me at all times. A four-inch bladed folding knife and a butane lighter. If I shot someone I would get shot within a week. Now you cut someone's achilles tendon and set em on fire, people tend to avoid trying getting back at ya. If someone pulls a gun on me and doesn't kill/cripple me with thier first shot they won't live to see another day, AND they would die VERY painfully, Joan of Arc style.

JustDisGuy 11-09-2004 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbofish
I'm interested in knowing how it's a bullshit law... Doesn't this *help* law enforcement?

It's a bullshit law because the government is forcing law abiding citizens to register their ownership of "long guns" or rifles. For the most part around here if you have a rifle, it's to go get some food. We've had to register hand guns and be members of shooting clubs and get transport permits to take our hand guns to the range for decades already. We've also had to go through a process of police checks and government issued identification requirements for the procurement of firearms for decades. The only thing new about all of this is that now the government will know where all the firearms are that people are willing to admit they have.

While the registration of firearms will tell the police (if they can search the registry, and if they do) whether there might be firearms in the residence of a law abiding citizen, police officers are not normally being called to attend the homes of law abiding citizens - instead they tend to be dealing with criminals. Criminals of course are not registering their firearms. In fact, many many formerly law abiding citizens are also not registering their firearms, and thus being forced into the role of criminal by the state. They are not willing to part with their security in the interest of conforming to what they also see as a bullshit law.

The only thing this law does for Canada is provide a few people with government jobs, and provide a list for the zealots who eventually get elected that they can reference when they come to disarm the public. Oh, there is one other thing - the law provides for the search of any place (residence, business or otherwise) where the police suspect there may be firearms, without a warrant.

And that is why it's a bullshit law.

ARTelevision 11-09-2004 08:06 PM

spindles, guns tame the wild beast and stop it in its tracks - the number of legs is unimportant.

spindles 11-09-2004 08:20 PM

I think it is a terrible thing that society in some parts of the world end up like this.

I feel (at least where I live) that the chance of anyone breaking into my house is quite low, and that the need for me to defend myself/my family just not require much more than a golf club/baseball bat (both which I do have handy). During daytime, my house is wide open (it lets the cats come and go as they please), and we don't even lock the doors until we are ready to go to bed.

Further, I have never felt threatened on my way home (regardless of what wee hour of the evening/morning it is).

Maybe I'm naive, but I just don't understand the American fascination with being able to take the law into your own hands. Our lack of sizable dangerous animals (bears, wolves etc.) means that away from the city I also do not really fear for my safety.

I wonder whether the right to bear arms that Americans have (and don't seem to want to relinquish) is actually counter productive to feeling safe.

whocarz 11-09-2004 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stompy
I wanna buy an Uzi... just because I can! (Especially now that it's legal to do so!)

Careful... you're letting your ignorance show! (You could buy an Uzi legally before the AWB sunset!)

Anyway, I own two Norinco made rifles, an SKS and a MAK-90. The MAK-90 has been heavily modified, and the only way you can tell it is one is by the stamp on the side.

spindles, I use to be in a predominately Australian SOF2 clan, and one of the guys had a gang of six thugs break into his house. He managed to kill one and fend off the others with a katana style sword. Just goes to show you that you are never 100% safe, no matter where you live or what laws are on the books.

jwoody 11-10-2004 03:52 AM

I have a question. In America, are guns / gunshops advertised on TV and radio?

Lockjaw 11-10-2004 04:29 AM

Usually no. I mean you might see an occasional hunting supply store advertisement in the paper and the cable tv shows that focus on hunting and shooting have their share of specialized advertisements but as a whole it's not something greatly advertised.

In response to Spindles. I don't think the guns are the problem as far as feeling safe. We have a crime problem pure and simple and that wouldn't go away if we just did away with the guns. Also considering in America the dollar rules and if you have the money you can get it, guns wouldn't go away at least as far as the criminal element is concerned. I don't think the average American feels any more unsafe in their homes or walking down the street at night than the average Aussie or Brit. However I think the average person in America that WOULD pack a gun would be willing to just bend over and take getting shafted by a crook. Honestly if I was a criminal I wouldn't be a bit afraid of a guy with a bat, or a club even if I DIDN'T have a gun.

DelayedReaction 11-10-2004 05:05 AM

Although I can't own a firearm on campus, when I graduate and move off I intend to get a shotgun for home defense and a handgun for target practice. Eventually I would like to move to a state where I could get a concealed carry license.

For me it's a question of preparation. I'm 6'10" and not a likely target of robbery or rape, and the chances of a break-in are slim. But spending the time and effort to learn to properly use firearms is still beneficial. First of all, firing guns is fun. Personally that's enough of a reason for me, particulalry since I'm a law abiding citizen who hasn't shown any reason why I shouldn't be allowed to own a gun. Secondly, putting the time and effort into properly training yourself ensures that, on the off chance that there IS a situation that requires you to use your weapon, you have the skills and background knowledge necessary to come out alive and with your family intact.

benny2305 11-10-2004 05:34 AM

In Germany it's not allowed to carry guns. Only people who have to carry one because of their job, like policemen or bodyguards, have the right to (with a special permission).

Private people can only receive this permission with a lot of good reasons!

So, I don't carry a gun. I don't even own one, but I would like to.

cj22009 11-10-2004 05:57 AM

I have guns but don't carry one on me all the time. I do have a consealed weapons permit I only carry it when im going some were there is a chance of getting muged or attacked.

Dizzet 11-10-2004 05:59 AM

Damn here in denmark its most unlikly that you can own a gun...

jwoody 11-10-2004 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj22009
I have guns but don't carry one on me all the time. I do have a consealed weapons permit I only carry it when im going some were there is a chance of getting muged or attacked.

Where would that be then?

Wherever I'm going, being mugged or attacked doesn't even cross my mind as I leave the house, so the thought of 'should-I-take-my-gun' is completely alien to me.

kel 11-10-2004 07:18 AM

To those who think violent crime isn't a problem in your country? Are you quite sure? Do you actually know that for a fact? Have you ever checked?

Try it, maybe you'll be surprised. Go see how your government thinks it's violent crime rate compares to other countries. You might be surprised what a little research will dig up.

cj22009 11-10-2004 07:23 AM

That would be in down town Atlanta jwoody I don't carry it all the time when I go down there. My work requires me to go to bad neighbors hoods I don't feel comfortable in.

splck 11-10-2004 07:29 AM

I own several that get used for hunting and plinking.

I've never felt a need to carry one around with me for my personal protection and quite happy about that. It's too bad some people live with enough fear in their lives that they feel they need to be armed while out and about. I feel sorry for them that they can't/don't feel safe in their own comunities.

Eight 11-10-2004 07:37 AM

Do I have a gun? Nope, it is illegal over here to carries guns (well you can with various different licenses but to get them its a pain).

Would I carry one if I could. To right!

jwoody 11-10-2004 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj22009
That would be in down town Atlanta jwoody I don't carry it all the time when I go down there. My work requires me to go to bad neighbors hoods I don't feel comfortable in.


My job requires that I go inside some of the worst homes in the worst neighbourhoods in North-East England. I've never been threatened once though (mainly because I'm usually giving the tennants something for nothing).

The odds of me facing a gun are too insignificant to be of concern, I'd imagine the opposite would be true if I was doing my job in downtown Atlanta.

cj22009 11-10-2004 08:55 AM

Yea I can see your point there J but when I have to go into those neighbor hoods im usually disconnecting some ones phone and people don't like to have there phones turned off.

rockogre 11-10-2004 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARTelevision
spindles, guns tame the wild beast and stop it in its tracks - the number of legs is unimportant.

I also live on an isolated acerage and it is the two legged variety that we worry about. Racoons and Possums rarely get drunk and want to party in my yard at 3 A.M. Never had a Possum threaten me on my own front porch but I have had it done to me by people.

Last time we needed the authorities it took over 45 minutes for a deputy to show up. (Not his fault, just a lot of distance and few deputies).

Just my $0.02

Bill O'Rights 11-10-2004 11:57 AM

Yes, I have guns. Although, all but my Remington .270 hunting rifle are used for historical purposes. I am a Civil War re-enactor, and a history buff in general. I own reproduction models of an 1853 Enfield .577 Rifle, an 1855 Sprigfield .58 Rifle, an 1853 Sharps .54 Carbine, and an 1860 Colt .44 Army Revolver.

gcbrowni 11-10-2004 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rlyss
I'm not sure of the exact gun laws in Australia but I think that we need some pretty good reasons to have a gun licence, like we're farmers or something.

And there, my friends, if the fundamental difference between the US and most other countries. In the US, the goverment has to have a good reason to deny you something. IE: Your rights are not granted to you by the goverment in te US, the givenment denies specific rights as it needs to.

Criminals don't apply for concealed firearm permits, honest people do. Study after study shows that only a miniscule number of CCW permit holders ever have their permits revoked.

gcbrowni 11-10-2004 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwoody
I have a question. In America, are guns / gunshops advertised on TV and radio?

Gunshops frequently advertise on Tv and radio. I'm not sure I've ever heard an ad for a specific firearm on Tv/Radio, except for a firearm related how.

ARTelevision 11-10-2004 05:02 PM

Not in this county, region, or state.
I have never seen a gun shop advertise on tv or radio.
I have never seen or heard an ad for one on national media either.

Cobalt_60 11-10-2004 05:51 PM

I've only seen tv commercials for outdoors sportings stores which sell firearms. I do recieve flyers in the mail from a local outdoor sporting store with their own out door range advertising firearms, pistol and rifle. But only because I purchased a pistol from them. Whoa, wait scratch that part about the commercials. I have seen a commercial for a store dealing in nothing but firearms. It was for Collectors Firearms. I've seen the commercial once or twice. I've even passed by the place a few times, just haven't stepped inside. I would love to but just don't have the cash to splurge. I'm sure if local firearm vendors had the cash they would have local commercials.

http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/

ziadel 11-10-2004 07:19 PM

yes I carry a gun with me. And if that crackhead or whatever started bashing on my car like that, and I was trapped the same way that car was trapped, I wouldn't hesitate to put a bullet in his chest.


life sucks and some people just can't deal with it and will go after anyone who appears to have a life that sucks less :shrug:

I love a few people way too much to let something happen to them, so I carry and am willing to defend myself and most likely anyone else in need of assistance.



its better to be judged by 12 than carried by six ;)

stingc 11-10-2004 09:38 PM

I used to own an air rifle for target shooting, but I've never owned, and do not plan on owning a real gun.

I've lived my whole life in the US, and have never felt unsafe. This thread is starting to make me feel a little uneasy though. I didn't realize so many people carry guns around in this country.

ziadel 11-10-2004 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stingc
I used to own an air rifle for target shooting, but I've never owned, and do not plan on owning a real gun.

I've lived my whole life in the US, and have never felt unsafe. This thread is starting to make me feel a little uneasy though. I didn't realize so many people carry guns around in this country.




why does it make you feel uneasy? If I were you it would make me feel better. You live in a country where you are lucky enough to be able to own a firearm, you choose not to exercise that right, thats fine, just be glad theres enough of us who do exercise that right to blow away the dude who is mugging you :p



seriously tho, why are you so surprised, violence is in our blood, if it wasn't we'd still be subject to the king...


exercise your rights man :)


http://www.gunsmagazine.com/buygun/BuyGunTffn.jpg

billege 11-11-2004 01:42 AM

12 ga, bolt action, Marlin shotgun. It kills deer.
When it's not killing deer, it's locked up.

.38 S&W Revolver. My grandpa carried it when he owned his own security company in Grosse Pointe, MI, all those years ago. It's roughly 40 years old.

When it's not locked away, with it's ammuntion locked seperatly away, it kills paper targets, bottles of water, ballistic geletin, and the occasional cookie or rotting piece of fruit.

I also have a C02 powered pellet rifle w/scope, and a C02 pellet revolver that looks like a .357, more or less.

basmoq 11-11-2004 04:43 AM

I cary a military tanto knive for defense, along with a 32ACP KelTec p32 as a backup or in case they have a gun as well. I wouldn't leave home without either one of them, seeing as how I've had to use the knive to scare off would be attackers before (never use a gun for this, it's over-kill and they may sue you).

basmoq 11-11-2004 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARTelevision
Not in this county, region, or state.
I have never seen a gun shop advertise on tv or radio.
I have never seen or heard an ad for one on national media either.

I have a Gander Mountain and Dicks Sporting Goods here in Fort Wayne, IN that both have had radio ads out talking about hunting season and the guns they offer.

Ultima84 11-12-2004 06:29 AM

Nope... no guns for me. They are banned in Australia :)

BlueBongo 11-12-2004 07:08 AM

Growing up in a family of gun toting alcoholics I had many experiences with them growing up and when I can spend the extra money will get a 9mm to carry around with me for self defense. When I was younger and visiting my family out in the desert and up in the country I carried a gun with me for multiple reasons though it only came in handy a couple times. I don't think there is anything wrong with carrying them around... though I think that there should be new measures that require people to take safety courses before purchasing guns. But that's just my opinion.

bookerV 11-12-2004 08:27 AM

Wow after reading this I am so glad that I live in Canada. Guns are quite rare around here. I don't know anyone that has one, nor anyone that has ever needed one. Like someone said above, if I ever lived somewhere where I felt I NEEDED a gun to walk around, I would move...

tropple 11-12-2004 09:22 AM

hehhe... Knives. What a waste of time.

Don't bring a knife to a hand maser fight.

Just kidding ;-)

fatbob 11-12-2004 12:35 PM

nope don't carry a gun and in this country it is illegal as well as unnecessary. thank fuck.


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