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sixate 05-17-2003 06:15 PM

Teen who fed cat to gator could face five years in prison
 
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Teen who fed cat for gator could face five years in prison


A teenage boy who fed a neighbor’s pet cat to an alligator Thursday told investigators he just wanted to see what the gator would do, Cape Coral police reported.

Andrew J. Castor, 14, of 1432 S.E. 24th Ave. was arrested on charges of felony cruelty to animals, feeding a gator and the theft of the cat.

The state attorney's office hadn't decided what charges to pursue Friday or whether Castor would be tried as an adult, said spokeswoman Chere Avery.

According to police, Castor stole the 12-year-old cat from a chair in the neighbor’s front yard Thursday afternoon, slipped it into his bookbag and took it to a canal on the 1000 block of Southeast 23rd Ave.

He admitted kicking the cat in the stomach and head, and then throwing it into the canal to feed a gator, police said.

Castor’s father said his son deeply regretted his actions.

“The boy’s never been in trouble in his life,” said Patrick Castor, 38. “And yes, he does feel bad about it. He’s been crying over it ever since last night.”

The cat’s owners said Andrew Castor led them to the canal, where they saw the dead cat still in the gator’s mouth.

“It had him by the tail,” said Cari Taich, 16, of 1511 S.E. 24th Avenue. “I started crying. I couldn’t breathe.”

Castor initially told police another boy threw the cat to the alligator, but later admitted he acted alone, police reported. Castor was also charged with giving a false statement to police.

Taich got the black-and-white cat, named Homeboy, when she was 5 years old, and she used to sleep with him every night.

Taich’s mother, Aurea Maldonado, said she still couldn’t believe the cat was dead.

“Twelve years he’s been with me,” said Maldonado, 48. “He was like family. He was like my son.”

The cruelty to animals charge is a third-degree felony, since it involves a cruel death or an excessive infliction of unnecessary pain or suffering.

If tried as an adult, Castor could get a maximum sentence of five years in jail and/or a $10,000 fine.

Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission had no immediate plans to remove the gator, according to spokesman Gary Morse.

Castor was taken to Lee County’s juvenile detention center. His status there wasn’t available Thursday afternoon, since he’s a juvenile and protected by state privacy laws.

Police spokesman Angelo Bitsis said he wasn’t aware of a similar case in Cape Coral in at least the last eight years.

Castor had never been arrested before for a felony in Cape Coral, Bitsis said. Misdemeanor arrest records are confidential because of Castor’s age.



Sorry, but I laughed when I read this.
The kid is dumb, but jail time over a cat is even more retarded than the kid.
The cats owner needs to grow up.

Glory's Sun 05-17-2003 06:18 PM

The cat was 12 years old.. wouldn't have lived much longer anyway. All kids, especially me, do stupid things. I can't see trying him as an adult. He did break the law but let's face it, he's 14 and it was a cat not a human.

gov135 05-17-2003 06:20 PM

Uhhh...
Killing animals for fun by yourself - I'm pretty sure this is really high on the "future severe mental problems" scale.

The woman is probably overeacting - but the kid won't go away for five years. But he should get alot of community service and some serious counciling.

juanvaldes 05-17-2003 06:20 PM

He's 14. He did a stupid childish thing. Above all else he should NOT be tried as a adult.

Slap him around, let him learn from this.

yeah, I laughed as well. :D

WhoaitsZ 05-17-2003 06:39 PM

no laughter here, but if he's 14, I can't see him being tried as an adult.

community service for a year.

elaphe 05-17-2003 07:26 PM

Gotta disagree with everyone. I'm not going to suggest that the cat's life is equal to a human life, but the laws are in place to prevent and hopefully discourage "a cruel death or an excessive infliction of unnecessary pain or suffering."

Being punched/kicked in the head and stomach and then fed to a gator is about as excessive and unnecessary as it gets. If some punk teenage kid did that to my cats, I'd teach the shit-turd meaning of excessive and unnecessary pain and suffering.

He's 14. He should know right from wrong. Let him pay.

Memalvada 05-17-2003 07:39 PM

ALL THAT FOR A CAT?!?!?!?!?!?

The kid should be congratulated for feeding a member of an endangered species :D

But seriously though, I think that the cat's owners are over reacting. I know a lot of kids who are cruel to animals. Here are some stories I've heard (and they are true):

- A cousin of mine almost fried a parrot in the microwave... He said the parrot was cold, and he was trying to warm it up :rolleyes:
- This kid I know used to kick his dog in the nuts whenever he saw it. OUCH!
- One of my friends used to tie a string to a chick's neck, and whirl it around in the air.
- Another of my friends once flushed a chick down the toilet.
- Yet another friend tied a chick to a helium-filled ballon and let it go.

Hmmm... come to think about it, I got some pretty sick friends :D

They just didnt know right from wrong back then...

*Nikki* 05-17-2003 07:40 PM

At 14 right from wrong has been established.

I feel sorry for this kid, he already has got a bad start in life.

Let him learn from his actions and then maybe when he is 24 he won't be running around sliting people's throats for attention.

gibber71 05-17-2003 07:47 PM

Fry the little fuck. Let's make an example of him so that others who do stupid things will think before they act. Think that's harsh. I don't.Besides, when he gets out of prison he'll have a university degree and probably a job lined up and will contribute to society. Hmmm.... not a bad way to get a free education.

Marburg 05-17-2003 08:23 PM

Well, considering the limits of the legal punishment, I can't think of very many things worse that can be done to a cat so shouldn't he get the maximum punishment or at least close to it.
Hmmm... I can see why an animal's life would be worth as much as a human's, but I also can't see why it wouldn't be.

seretogis 05-17-2003 09:16 PM

I'm shocked by the replies so far. This isn't "boys-will-be-boys" innocent child behavior. He beat someone's cat and then fed it to an alligator. That is deranged -- not normal. Though I don't think he should be in prison for five years for it, he should be in a psych ward until he's 18, then have mandatory counseling until he's 21.

First it's someone's cat, then it will be someone's child, and I would rather not be the person to explain to the child's parents that he had a history of disturbing behavior.

redravin40 05-17-2003 09:39 PM

There is a pattern that is clearly established from interviews with sociopaths in prison.
It includes the 'experimenting' of killing pets.
There is much more involved in this then just the killing of a cat.
He knew how much the cat meant to the neighbor.
It was a way of testing the reactions of the cat owner as much as the thrill of killing.
Trying him as adult might be a bad way to go since he would be hanging out with some of the very people he emulates.
The suggestion of a psych ward and intensive therapy might work.
If it doesn't a very close eye needs to kept on this kid.

tecnine 05-17-2003 10:10 PM

Yeah, I agree that close evaluation should be in order, but if this is a first offense then I'd let the kid off with a very stern warning, community service, and probation, not lock him up for five years.

Who knows? Maybe this could actually be a positive event in the kid's life

rs8001 05-17-2003 10:58 PM

Christ! Now am pissed off twice over. First some little shit kills somebodies pet. Second people think its funny. I suppose some people don't understand how much some people love and cherish their pets.

BTW, it isn't uncommon for cats to live to be 20.

impirius7 05-17-2003 11:33 PM

yeah im with you rs. i found nothing about this funny, only a horribly stupid kid who i think should be fed to an alligator. WHAT THE FUCK DID HE THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN HE PUT MEAT IN THE MOUTH OF A CARNIVORE?! america is fucked, we don't know how to raise kids. then you laugh about it! there is nothing funny here! i almost felt sorry for the kid when he was crying, but not sorry enough. fry him.

Phaenx 05-18-2003 12:25 AM

That wasn't very nice of him. To be honest I don't care what happens to this kid, If it were my cat I'm sure I'd like to see this bitch locked up for 5 years, my cat is worth more then a strangers future, even though he's a dumbass that runs between my feet when I'm walking to the bathroom late at night.

Glory's Sun 05-18-2003 04:15 AM

I don't see why the kid should be tried as an adult and locked up for 5 years. I do see why he should be watched and possibly kept in an institution for a couple years. Some of you are saying "fry him" or "I don't care what happens to the kid". The second is the biggest problem in my eyes. Obviously he hasn't been cared for alot in his life or this wouldn't have happened. When a person says fry him does that really solve anything? You kill a human for killing ONE cat. IMO, an animals life is NOT equal to a human life. I have pets and I love them deeply and I understand that it's hard to replace them. I would be terribly upset if something happened to my pets like this. I would however realize that the child needs help and sending him to prison is not the answer. If I had to choose between the life of a person whom I loved deeply or my pets that I love deeply I would choose the person. Send the kid to get some help and try to improve his life.. don't make it even worse.

krwlz 05-18-2003 06:28 AM

i can see the cruelty to animals thing, and im sure it was tough for the owner, but i must admit, i too laughed....prolly another one of those kids who cant tell the differance between reality and make belive...he prolly thought it would be funny as hell, and didnt think about anything other then the humor aspect

splck 05-18-2003 07:04 AM

This kind of behavior is disturbed to say the least. Chalking it up as 'kids will be kids' is burying your head in the sand and will not help this guy in the long run. redravin40 is correct about why some kids experiment with killing animals and why this shit should be taken seriously.
Lets see who's laughing in ten or twenty years after he's gone around and killed a bunch of women.

Ashton 05-18-2003 08:02 AM

Feed the kid to a toothless Lion.... watch kid piss himself while kitty gums him to death....

bullgoose 05-18-2003 08:19 AM

Sorry, I've got a 16 year old dog laying next to my chair right now. God help the little shit that tries to do ANYTHING to him; let's put it this way, the kid won't have to worry about being a father!

SiN 05-18-2003 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by seretogis
I'm shocked by the replies so far. This isn't "boys-will-be-boys" innocent child behavior. He beat someone's cat and then fed it to an alligator. That is deranged -- not normal. ...
First it's someone's cat, then it will be someone's child, and I would rather not be the person to explain to the child's parents that he had a history of disturbing behavior.

Yep. i agree 100%.

also agree with redravin40's post.

i don't understand how some of you find this all just 'amusing'.

Melwas 05-18-2003 09:27 AM

Don't need to worry about crocodiles and alligators over here in blighty :)

Even the roughest of people don't beat the living crap out of animals, its more human to kill humans, or animals for food but to kill someone's pet out of curiosity. :/

CSflim 05-18-2003 09:47 AM

If you even THINK of coming anywhere near my precious pussy cat, he will be feeding on your genitals for breakfast. Stay well away!

As for the whole, boys will be boys argument, I have to say that I managed to get through my childhood without feeding anyone's pet to an aligator.

And as for, "it was only a cat", some people can get very attached to their pets,especially children, and people who live alone.

Somenosuke 05-18-2003 10:50 AM

I've got to agree with the people who think this is not cool, and not in the least bit amusing. I'm sure it's hard to understand the cat's owner's reaction to the kid doing this, maybe because some of y'all don't have pets.

I don't want to go into a sob story moment here, but well, what the hell.

I got to watch someone run over my cat on purpose when I was 7 years old, right in front of my house. I wasn't laughing. A few months later, someone killed my other cat, again, on purpose. I wasn't laughing then, either. Those cats meant a lot to me, and it's alright if you guys think that cats are stupid animals that don't feel anything, but there are some of us who think differently.

I'd like to see how you'd feel if you watched YOUR cat in the middle of the street crying in pain because her entire midsection's been crushed. Yeah. Laugh at that. I'll bet the assholes that killed my cats did.
:rolleyes:

World's King 05-18-2003 11:24 AM

I fucking hate cats.

bullgoose 05-18-2003 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by World's King
I fucking hate cats.
'S OK; they probably don't care for you either.:D

william 05-18-2003 11:35 AM

A disturbing about this story - the child is facing a felony offense. Kids will be kids, yada, yada, yada. So he knows how precious cats are from all of the precious time he is obviously spending w/his parents. Another thing - in SoFla the rules are very different. He may or may not face a judge.

denim 05-18-2003 01:21 PM

Re: Teen who fed cat to gator could face five years in prison
 
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Originally posted by sixate
The cats owner needs to grow up.
You've never had a long-term pet, huh?

denim 05-18-2003 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by juanvaldes
He's 14. He did a stupid childish thing. Above all else he should NOT be tried as a adult.

Slap him around, let him learn from this.

Agreed, but I would give him a month or whatever in juvie hall. Give him an idea of what real abuse is, and get him serious counseling. Animal abuse is a known precursor to adulthood ... issues.

denim 05-18-2003 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by tecnine
Yeah, I agree that close evaluation should be in order, but if this is a first offense then I'd let the kid off with a very stern warning, community service, and probation, not lock him up for five years.
Sure, just slap him on the wrist and set him free. Until he does it to your kid on his 18th b-day, then fry him. And he's in Florida, so they would.

merkerguitars 05-19-2003 11:16 AM

It's not like he forced the gator to eat the cat :confused: its sort of a natural thing. Sure a little bit of punishment....wtf jailtime? not like he multilated it personally.

Bill O'Rights 05-19-2003 11:50 AM

I really don't know what disturbs me more...that this budding little sociopath did what he did, or the fact that so many of you actually find it humerous. And yes, by the way, at 14 he most certainly does know right from wrong.

ironman 05-19-2003 11:55 AM

Lest face it, the kid obviously knew what he was doing, but 5 years in jail?... that´s simply stupid

Atropos4 05-19-2003 01:08 PM

Everyone knows how much I love cats.
I read this and I'm telling you that if some punk kid did that to one of my cats I'd want to feed HIM to the gator.



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Originally posted by redravin40
There is a pattern that is clearly established from interviews with sociopaths in prison.
It includes the 'experimenting' of killing pets.
There is much more involved in this then just the killing of a cat.
He knew how much the cat meant to the neighbor.
It was a way of testing the reactions of the cat owner as much as the thrill of killing.
Trying him as adult might be a bad way to go since he would be hanging out with some of the very people he emulates.
The suggestion of a psych ward and intensive therapy might work.
If it doesn't a very close eye needs to kept on this kid.

I totally agree with RedRavin40 on this. Hopefully the kid gets the help he needs.

Serpent 05-19-2003 01:50 PM

edit, ok i was rong i read the statement from other then what i heard.. anyway the kid needs medical help and probably should get some community service for his actions.

norty123 05-19-2003 02:40 PM

i'm not a huge cat fan -- although, i woudlnt' want to see a gator eat one.. or would I...

food for thought.

brandon11983 05-19-2003 03:52 PM

That is disturbing. The cat never did anything to deserve that. I agree with Atropos4, feed the little fuck to the gator. Then yank him out... and give him something to think about next time.

Eviltree 05-19-2003 04:14 PM

well, thats different to say the least

sixate 05-19-2003 05:24 PM

I'm laughing my ass off right now. People think I'm an asshole because I laughed that a kid threw a cat at a gator. Some people want to throw the kid at a gator and somehow that's OK. HAHAHAHA! People are more important than animals. End of discussion. Jesus Christ, give the damn kid a break. Like we all didn't do stupid shit when we were kids.

spectre 05-19-2003 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
I'm laughing my ass off right now. People think I'm an asshole because I laughed that a kid threw a cat at a gator. Some people want to throw the kid at a gator and somehow that's OK. HAHAHAHA! People are more important than animals. End of discussion. Jesus Christ, give the damn kid a break. Like we all didn't do stupid shit when we were kids.
Not if the kid turns out to be a serial killer. To my knowledge, every serial killer started out by viciously torturing and killing animals for pleasure. The kid needs some serious help before he becomes more fucked up than he already is.

Frosstbyte 05-19-2003 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by spectre
Not if the kid turns out to be a serial killer. To my knowledge, every serial killer started out by viciously torturing and killing animals for pleasure. The kid needs some serious help before he becomes more fucked up than he already is.
Someone who tortures animals does not always become a serial killer. However, if you do torture animals, you have a high chance of qualifying for conduct disorder, a childhood mental disorder that is required for diagnosing antisocial personality disorder later in life, the mental disorder that is commonly linked to serial killers. Most people who have conduct disorder do not go on to have antisocial personality disorder. Most people who have antisocial personality disorder do not go on to be serial killers.

Yes, he may have tortured/killed an animal. Assuming the report is true and he showed true remorse for his actions, it's very likely that it's an isolated incident and that he doesn't really have the severe psychological disturbances generally associated with people who go on to become serial killers.

That being said, I think a much more effective way of dealing with the situation than sending him to jail is, on the off chance that he's a good actor, to have him go through some sort of therapy to diagnose him and treat him if necessary. When someone does something like this, it's a red flag, certainly, but it doesn't mean he's guaranteed to be a derranged psychopath.

spectre 05-19-2003 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Frosstbyte
Someone who tortures animals does not always become a serial killer. However, if you do torture animals, you have a high chance of qualifying for conduct disorder, a childhood mental disorder that is required for diagnosing antisocial personality disorder later in life, the mental disorder that is commonly linked to serial killers. Most people who have conduct disorder do not go on to have antisocial personality disorder. Most people who have antisocial personality disorder do not go on to be serial killers.
I never said every person that tortures animals turns out to be a serial killer, I said that every serial killer had, at some point, tortured an animal. It's not guaranteed that he will become a serial killer, but if his actions continue to follow this pattern, the possibility still exists.

sixate 05-19-2003 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by spectre
I never said every person that tortures animals turns out to be a serial killer, I said that every serial killer had, at some point, tortured an animal. It's not guaranteed that he will become a serial killer, but if his actions continue to follow this pattern, the possibility still exists.
So if the kid has a possibility to become a serial killer then what about the people who feel he should be fed to the gator? They could be the next coming of Hitler. :D ;)

spectre 05-19-2003 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
So if the kid has a possibility to become a serial killer then what about the people who feel he should be fed to the gator? They could be the next coming of Hitler. :D ;)
Cute, real cute. :p

sixate 05-19-2003 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by spectre
Cute, real cute. :p
I thought you'd like that. I can't pass up an opportunity to be a smartass. http://www.boomspeed.com/sixate/wiggle.gif

seretogis 05-19-2003 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
I'm laughing my ass off right now. People think I'm an asshole because I laughed that a kid threw a cat at a gator. Some people want to throw the kid at a gator and somehow that's OK. HAHAHAHA! People are more important than animals. End of discussion. Jesus Christ, give the damn kid a break. Like we all didn't do stupid shit when we were kids.
First, grow up. I can't understand how anyone could laugh about something like this, but whatever, maybe it's a defense mechanism of yours to bypass any sort of moral judgement, or maybe you're just trying to shock people and impress mommy and daddy.

Secondly, I wouldn't say that "people are more important than animals" in anything more than a "we're higher in the foodchain" sense. The cat was property of and a companion of someone. That person was wronged when the cat was killed, not just the cat. If you have had a pet for several years you'd know exactly what I'm talking about.

As for "giv[ing] the kid a break", uh.. what? People get plenty of breaks with the justice system, there's no need to be lenient on someone that tortures and kills animals for fun. The claim that the kid showed remorse is something to be hopeful of, but he may have just faked tears in order to manipulate his parents -- it's not uncommon.

sixate 05-19-2003 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by seretogis
First, grow up.
I'm already 6'8". How much more do you want me to grow? :D

I know I'm 100% alone on this cause I hate animals. They stink, chew everything, piss/shit on stuff, get fur all over everything that they don't chew/shit/piss on. Without going into detail let's just say that if this kid gets 5 years in jail then I should have been locked up as a kid and not been let out yet. I've NEVER started a fight or thought of killing a person. You're right about people getting a break from the justice system. If OJ can stay out of jail then this fucking kid should too.

Vincentt 05-19-2003 09:27 PM

First, it was just a cat!

"People who kill pets are more likely to become psycho killers" – not a real quote

“Well damnit, people who have guns are more likely to shoot people, then those who don't have guns.”

“Huh?”

By this logic we should put people in jail for doing something that some killers have in common?

Maybe there is a feed-cat-to-gator gene we can target and start tossing the babies right into jail right out of their mothers.

Or just exaggerate a lot.

… Stray dogs, stray cats…. Hungry people… you do the math.

MSD 05-19-2003 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by sixate Without going into detail let's just say that if this kid gets 5 years in jail then I should have been locked up as a kid and not been let out yet. I've NEVER started a fight or thought of killing a person. [/B]
I'm not going to pass judgement on the actions that you're implying, but from what I've heard from you over time, I think it's safe to say that you have (and probably had) a lot more mental cacpacity and restraint than most kids who torture animals.

If a significant number of kids who do this kind of stuff go on to develop more serious problems, then the kid should at least be be checked out and have his head examined.

seretogis 05-19-2003 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by sixate
I'm already 6'8". How much more do you want me to grow? :D

I know I'm 100% alone on this cause I hate animals. They stink, chew everything, piss/shit on stuff, get fur all over everything that they don't chew/shit/piss on. Without going into detail let's just say that if this kid gets 5 years in jail then I should have been locked up as a kid and not been let out yet. I've NEVER started a fight or thought of killing a person. You're right about people getting a break from the justice system. If OJ can stay out of jail then this fucking kid should too.

I think that it says a lot about you that you couldn't even make it past the first three words of my post.

seretogis 05-19-2003 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by Vincentt
First, it was just a cat!
As long as it wasn't your cat, who cares, right? As long as it's not your civil liberties, who cares? As long as it's not your girlfriend's unborn child, who cares? Can I guess your political party affiliation?


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Originally posted by Vincentt
"People who kill pets are more likely to become psycho killers" – not a real quote

“Well damnit, people who have guns are more likely to shoot people, then those who don't have guns.”

Nice try, but that is an incredibly broken analogy. Having a gun in your posession does not alter your personality and make you aim it at someone and pull the trigger. Lawful gun-owners are not significantly more prone to commit violent crimes involving a gun. Torturing and killing animals is a stepping-stone to committing similar crimes against humans. Maybe you will feel differently if this kid (or sixate for that matter, he seems a little too proud of what he suggests he's done to animals :rolleyes: ) gets out of control and plays feed-the-gator with your baby boy, or your wife, or your mother.

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Originally posted by Vincentt
By this logic we should put people in jail for doing something that some killers have in common?
The 14-year-old in this case is not the victim, so don't treat him as one.

denim 05-20-2003 05:24 AM

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Originally posted by norty123
food for thought.
Now you want to feed a cat to your brain??

Vincentt 05-21-2003 12:29 PM

The analogy was ment to be broken.

The boy fed a cat to a gator, he didn't feed a baby to a gator.

If you are saying that a cat is equal to a baby, then there is really is no reason to continue a conversation.

Having a gun DOES make you more likely to shoot someone, then not having a gun, its sort of a prerequisite.

A lot of people kill animals, and not all of them are killers. YOU just don't hear about them because... why would you? It isn't until after they catch a killer that they like to look back and go why, why, and where there any signs?

KWSN 05-21-2003 08:38 PM

I'm trying right now to feel about as much sympathy as I can, but honestly... I need more background on the cat. I also need more background on the cat's owners and what they did with the cat. Why? There's this noisy fucking dog who's been running around my street lately. The owners have had it its whole life, it's 5 years old, and yet it NEVER stays in its own yard, attacks random people, takes dumps in MY yard, etc. The owners, when anyone complains just apologize, but it happens again and again. I am listening right now to the dog barking and clawing at my door. I, quite frankly, would be rather pleased if this dog met an untimely demise. Of course, the owners would get up in arms if someone killed it. But the thing is this: THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AS CONSCIOUS ABOUT IT WHEN IT WAS ALIVE AS WHEN IT WAS DEAD. If their dog does all the crap it does, they obviously don't care about it all that much. If the dog was killed and they got pissed, what are they getting pissed over? Oh no, now we can't be kept up late at night by the sounds of barking and clawing across the street. Honestly, that baffles me.

What I'm getting at is, if that cat was anthing like that, I think that if I were in the kid's position, I might have done it myself (ok, maybe not... but I would have at least not been mad at the kid). If the cat was a nice cat that kept to itself, that the owner loved, and never gave anyone any reason to be mad, I think the kid should get an assload of community service and fines. But if that cat's like that dog across the street, fuck it. The cat, and the owner, got what they were asking for.

krwlz 05-21-2003 08:45 PM

You people are to uptight sometimes, it was a fucking cat!! The kid said he was sorry!! End of story...while I can't say I would have done it, I can see where the idea would form....

In the end, no one was hurt (humans) so we ought to just let it go...we do not arrest people who let their cats run all over and that cat gets eaten....

Besides, if the cat couldn't get away from a gator, it probably wasn't worth much anyway :) kidding!

seretogis 05-21-2003 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by krwlz
You people are to uptight sometimes, it was a fucking cat!! The kid said he was sorry!! End of story...while I can't say I would have done it, I can see where the idea would form....

In the end, no one was hurt (humans) so we ought to just let it go...we do not arrest people who let their cats run all over and that cat gets eaten....

Besides, if the cat couldn't get away from a gator, it probably wasn't worth much anyway :) kidding!

If you have a pet, let me come over and beat and then kill it in front of you. You won't mind, right?

seretogis 05-21-2003 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by Vincentt
The analogy was ment to be broken.

The boy fed a cat to a gator, he didn't feed a baby to a gator.

If you are saying that a cat is equal to a baby, then there is really is no reason to continue a conversation.

Having a gun DOES make you more likely to shoot someone, then not having a gun, its sort of a prerequisite.

A lot of people kill animals, and not all of them are killers. YOU just don't hear about them because... why would you? It isn't until after they catch a killer that they like to look back and go why, why, and where there any signs?

First, to many people a pet is part of the family as much as a child. So, to have someone beat and murder it is like having a member of your family beaten and then murdered. It's common for people to have feelings for an animal that they've lived with for 12 years -- to not would be odd, or indicative of other problems. If you can't understand that very basic concept, then there is really no reason to continue a conversation.

Having a gun does not make you significantly more likely to kill someone. Having a murderous mindset does. Comparing having a gun to something as awful as beating and then killing a defenseless animal astounds me. I have a gun, knife, hatchet, and claw hammer but I have absolutely no desire to beat and kill my dog. It takes someone very twisted to do so, and it is definitely a warning sign that should be acknowledged.

Pyrate 05-22-2003 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by SiN
i don't understand how some of you find this all just 'amusing'.
I guess it's just part of being 'tilted'...

:p

Vincentt 05-22-2003 09:31 PM

If you don't have a gun, you can not shoot anyone with a gun.

To many people there car is like there baby, can I have them thrown in jail when someone smashes into it?

Does an inanimate object not count?
Does a non-sentient being count as a sentient one?

5 years in prison is more then some people get for rape…

I doubt 100% that this case goes anywhere, the media loves to post these stories. Good way to give illusions that the legal system is broken.


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