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Old 10-01-2004, 06:27 AM   #41 (permalink)
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The wife and I are both registered, and neither one of us will tell the other one whom we're voting for. I keep telling her that I'm voting for Ralph Nader, but I'll probably do a write-in vote for Ringo. Wasn't Richard Starkey the president's name in Kevin Costner's "The Postman?"
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Old 10-01-2004, 08:38 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Several guys just walked past my office.. chanting "Choose or Lose" and asking everyone in the offices if they are registered to vote. One guy in a Bush mask and another in a Kerry mask. One guy carrying a banner saying Choose Or Lose, and playing some patriotic music.

The deadline for registering to vote is nearing.
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Old 10-02-2004, 11:20 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I have several friends that told me last night they haven't registred to vote but want to(I registered back in march). Are there any places I could take them today to get them registred? Who's going to be open on a saturday that could register them (We're in Illinois,SIU to be exact).
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Old 10-02-2004, 04:43 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Old 10-07-2004, 07:19 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Registered last year, waiting to recieve my absantee ballot in the mail. Those who can vote but don't, shouldn't be able to complain about officials that they could have voted against.
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Old 10-07-2004, 07:55 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'm registered. This will be my first time voting for actual political offices. I voted back in the spring for some school bond, but I was BARELY (a few weeks) too young to vote for the last presidential election.
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Old 10-07-2004, 08:22 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Here in KY, when you get or renew your driver's license you're automatically registered. A brilliant idea.
Motor Voter -- one useful outcome of the Clinton years

Yes. I will definitely vote on November 2, 2004.
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Old 10-07-2004, 06:16 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Motor Voter -- one useful outcome of the Clinton years

Yes. I will definitely vote on November 2, 2004.
I'm probably in the minority here, but I actually think motor voter is a <I>bad</I> idea. I think it should be <I>more</I> difficult to register, not easier. When everyone is registered you end up with more people who have no clue voting, and that's bad. I'm not advocating one candidate or another here, I'm just saying there's more to being politically active than pushing a button. You need to read up, understand the issues, and THEN vote.

A friend of mine once said "it would be great if issues just scrolled across your TV and you voted with your remote control." That was the scariest thing I had ever heard at the time.

Get educated. THEN go vote.
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Old 10-07-2004, 06:20 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Old 10-07-2004, 11:20 PM   #50 (permalink)
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registered even though my vote barley counts in texas.
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Old 10-08-2004, 12:13 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Would be, but I don't have to. North Dakota is, I believe, the only state in the union where you don't have to register to vote. Show up with a Driver's liscense (proof of age) and you can vote.
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Old 10-08-2004, 12:31 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Well I've been complaining about the government scince I was 15, this is my first time to change the numbers myself. I'll be voting every election until the day I die.
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Old 10-08-2004, 01:20 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I've been registered to vote for years but I just got my brother and mother to register today, horray!!
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Old 10-08-2004, 09:00 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Old 10-09-2004, 01:55 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I'm probably in the minority here, but I actually think motor voter is a <I>bad</I> idea. I think it should be <I>more</I> difficult to register, not easier. When everyone is registered you end up with more people who have no clue voting, and that's bad. I'm not advocating one candidate or another here, I'm just saying there's more to being politically active than pushing a button. You need to read up, understand the issues, and THEN vote.

A friend of mine once said "it would be great if issues just scrolled across your TV and you voted with your remote control." That was the scariest thing I had ever heard at the time.

Get educated. THEN go vote.
Amen to that.

Oh yeah, and I'm registered to vote. Did so on the second to last day in true SecretMethod70 fashion
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Old 10-09-2004, 07:03 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Absentee ballotter here.. just once in my life I'd love to be able to use a voting booth -- one of these days.. But yah. I'm registered... (You don't register, you can't vote, you can't vote, you have no right at all to complain about anything regarding the government)
So if you aren't a United States citizen, you have no right co complain?
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Old 10-09-2004, 07:07 AM   #57 (permalink)
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So if you aren't a United States citizen, you have no right co complain?
Since you are not participating in the process, and until you've chosen to educate yourself about the US Government, you have no right at all to bitch about the government,

There's constructive complaining, where you've taken the time to educate yourself on the process, and there's just bandwagon bitching where you just spew forth whatever the bigger mouth on the media tells you to bitch about.
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Old 10-09-2004, 07:37 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Acctually I can bitch, and not vote, becouse of a prcedural error my right to vote has been taken from me, and will cost about 300 dollors to get back, all becouse the State of Va declaried me incompatent, becouse I marked the wrong box on the form.

Untill I pay the re instament fee no right to vote.
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Old 10-09-2004, 07:46 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Since you are not participating in the process, and until you've chosen to educate yourself about the US Government, you have no right at all to bitch about the government,

There's constructive complaining, where you've taken the time to educate yourself on the process, and there's just bandwagon bitching where you just spew forth whatever the bigger mouth on the media tells you to bitch about.
From what I gather:
When you can vote, but are not aware, you cannot complain.
When you cannot vote, but are aware, you cannot complain.
When you can vote and are aware, you can complain.

Is that right?
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Old 10-09-2004, 09:55 AM   #60 (permalink)
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I have real problems with the "you can't complain" mantra. If it were not for third party candidates, I may have decided to not vote in this election since neither of the two major candidates really represent me. Well, what if Badnarik didn't make it onto the ballot in my state? Am I supposed to put my voice behind someone I don't agree with just so I have the "right to complain?" But then, what if that person wins - this person I didn't want to vote for in the first place but did anyway since I was not given an option to vote for anyone I liked but wanted to have the right to complain? If he wins, then I can't complain because I voted for him. But I wouldn't have voted for him - or at all for the matter - if not for the fact that I had to vote in order to complain.

Sorry, I don't buy it. If you don't like either candidate and there are no other options, or no other options that you're aware of at least, then don't vote, and you have every right to complain. Saying otherwise just forces people to half-heartedly put their support behind one of the two major candidates, enforcing the duopoloy they have on government.

I seriously wonder if there is this concept in other democracies. I really doubt it to be honest. This idea that voting for SOMETHING in a democracy is more important than voting for what you believe in is *extremely* detrimental to democracy IMO. I will not vote for Bush "just so I can complain" when I dislike Bush's policies. I will not vote for Kerry "just so I can complain" when I dislike Kerry's policies. If no one else is on the ballot in my state, or I am not aware of the other candidates (thanks to the two major parties control of the media), then what do you expect me to do? If I vote for Bush and he wins, since I'm supposed to vote first and respect my ideals later apparently, then I "can't complain" about his foreign policy. If I vote for Kerry and he wins, despite that he does not match my ideals either, then I "can't complain" about his economic policy (not that Bush's is better mind you ). So, tell me, what is someone who is unable to vote for or unaware of the third party candidates supposed to do when they disagree with both major candidates?

Badnarik and Cobb (let alone any of the other third party candidates) have gotten almost no media attention. Badnarik and Cobb were arrested yesterday for protesting not being allowed into the debates, yet it wasn't on the news anywhere (besides some obscure locations on the internet) that two PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES were arrested for civil disobedience. The only stations that the major third party candidates have been on are PBS and C-Span, and only sparingly. If I'm a person working 50 hours a week with a family, or a student at school full time who also works part time on top of it, how am I supposed to know about these third party candidates when they're basically not on TV, not in the newspapers, and not anywhere else but the internet since that's the only place they can freely express their message? What if I'm not internet savvy and, like many people, just use it to check my e-mail and use google? What then? How am I supposed to educate myself beyond the two major candidates whom I don't agree with while at the same time doing all my schoolwork, working at my job, or what have you. Oh, and finally, what if I'm like most people and since people have told me over and over that a vote for a third party is a wasted vote I don't even consider it?

Where are we now, society has told me if I vote 3rd party it's a waste, and that's if they're even on the ballot in my state, and I disagree with both major candidates. But society has also told me that not voting makes me not able to complain, so I guess I'm supposed to go vote for one of the two major candidates whom I disagree with, just so I can complain.....but only if that person loses.....even though I didn't want them to win.

Are you confused yet? Good. Because it doesn't make sense. At all.

If you don't like your options, don't vote. And complain all you want. And don't tell me that you can just hand in an empty ballot. Tell that to the uneducated masses (uneducated regarding voting and politics at least) who are never told that by the two parties since they want their vote. People have no idea that handing in an empty ballot is an option. And, frankly, lack of voter turnout is a bigger message to the two parties than empty ballots it seems.
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Old 10-09-2004, 11:30 AM   #61 (permalink)
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I'm not sure....I sent in my application (for Ca.) but haven't recieved any information back. Meanwhile, my boyfriend who has been back-packing through Europe for the past 5 weeks has received a lot of information on ballot measures/voting throught the mail...who knows!
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Old 10-09-2004, 08:21 PM   #62 (permalink)
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i registered and i'm excited, this will be my first time to vote
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Old 10-09-2004, 08:55 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Old 10-09-2004, 09:46 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Registered!
Voting by absentee ballot this year. I hope it backs back in time, and it actually gets counted.
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:47 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I have to work on election day, so I need to go vote absentee soon.
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Old 10-11-2004, 04:41 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Finally got my registration card this weekend. I was a bit worried after having just moved and re-registering. But is showed up with time to spare.

Being that I am in FL, every vote counts - that is if we can figure out how to do it right.
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Old 10-11-2004, 05:53 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Gotta vote this week since I'll be gone on 2 Nov.

If you're going to be out of town on 2 Nov, make sure you get your absentee ballot!
If you even thing you **might** be out of town, get your absentee ballot!

Something else to remember...in a lot of states there are laws on the books that require employers to give employees so much time to go to the polls so they can vote.
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Old 10-11-2004, 11:57 AM   #68 (permalink)
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If you don't like your options, don't vote. And complain all you want. And don't tell me that you can just hand in an empty ballot. Tell that to the uneducated masses (uneducated regarding voting and politics at least) who are never told that by the two parties since they want their vote. People have no idea that handing in an empty ballot is an option. And, frankly, lack of voter turnout is a bigger message to the two parties than empty ballots it seems.
It is for this reason that I now support the idea of a "None Of The Above" option in the US election process. Enough of these votes should send the parties back to find new candidates. The reality is that we don't get good choices for political office in this country any longer but it likely won't change because the two major parties will not really allow it to change. We no longer vote for the best candidate here in the US. Rather, we vote for what we view to be the lesser of two evils. Which one will screw things up the least.

Oh yeah, I'm registered too.
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Old 10-11-2004, 12:02 PM   #69 (permalink)
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I registered about 5 years ago and I have not voted once. I have either been to lazy to go down the street to vote or I am working and I can't take the time off to go because I need the money. Slacker, I know but hey, the people I would have voted for have won anyways.
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Old 10-11-2004, 09:41 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Old 10-12-2004, 02:44 AM   #71 (permalink)
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