Jerkoff shoves you for no good reason. Do You Fight?
 

I was coming out of a restaurant with my girlfriend this weekend and had the night ruined for no real reason by this moron. And what's worse I didn't feel like I was in a position to do anything about it.

This is what happened. If anyone lives in San Diego you know that the Gaslamp quarter gets packed with people in the summer on the weekends. It can be a pain in the ass, but sometimes fun to go to.

So my girlfriend and I were coming out of this place called Ole Madrid (good Spanish restaurant) which turns into a night club in the basement late night. So the sidewalk is filled with people waiting to get in and people just trying to get by. My girlfriend merges into the line of people passing by and I try to follow her except this guy, heretofore know as the jerkoff, cuts me off. I don't think much of it everyone is just trying to make it past the crowd here. But the guy slows down, practically creating a traffic jam and backs into me. He then reaches back and grabs this woman who was behind me and says,

"Come on honey we were rudely cutoff."

Now I'm getting annoyed. There's no line just a mass of moving people. And he's acting like everyone should just move out of the way and stop for him. But at this point I'm just thinking what can you do.

We finally break past the long line to get into the club and the sidewalk opens up so I rush up to my girlfriend who thought she had lost me in the crowd. As we're walking I'm in the middle of explaining what happened when someone shoves me from behind and then grabs my shoulder and pulls me back.

It's, of course, the fucking jerkoff. He rushes in front of me shakes his finger at me and yells,

"You don't ever fucking walk in front of my wife!"

At this point I'm in shock, and more than a little in embarrassed at the fact that everyone on the sidewalk is staring at me. The jerkoff quickly turn and walks away followed by his much older, and probably more than a little embarrased herself, wife.

The shock wears off and my blood starts to boil. I mean I must have been bright red. I haven't been in such a state of rage for quite some time. Now my girlfriend's pleading with me not to do anything and all I'm thinking is how I can get the guy on the ground as quickly as possible so I can start stomping on his head.

But the truth is I knew I wasn't going to do anything. If I had picked a fight with the guy the cops would have probably come (they patrol Gaslamp pretty heavily with all the tourists around and they can be dicks because of dealing with the crowds every weekend), charged me with something, and sent me to jail for the night. And what if I had to hightail it? Did I really expect my girlfriend to run along with me in heels? Obviously I was sober if I was thinking this rationally.

But I can't help but wish I had done something. The guy basically pushed me around when I wasn't looking or expecting it and yelled at me for no reason and got away with it. Of course he does have to live with being a dickhead.

It pretty much ruined my weekend. But I do feel better writing about it and seeing how ridiculous the whole situation was.

I could imagine tripping him as he walked away, but that wouldn't have done much good. He's obviously a fucking insane cockwad. That's my clinical observation.

I would probably been grinning in his face the whole time.

You did the right thing - fighing with him would have only put you on his level.

Fighting is Ok, if your safety or your girlfriend's safety is threatened and you don't have much of a choice... Sounds like you did have a choice and you made the right one...

Good for you...

In certain situations, I would have done something but that guy really doesn't sound like someone you'd want to be messing with. Yes, he's an asshole and he yelled at you. So what? Did he physically hurt you? Did he put you in a horrible position? Nothing he said was that bad(by bad I mean offensive. He was being rude and annoying but he was also unreasonable and I've learned that you can't fight with someone that unreasonable). I can guarentee you most of the people that stopped and stared at you were thinking "wtf...that guy who's yelling has a stick up his ass". So...it doesn't seem like a good reason to fight imo. You probably had a much better night with your girlfriend than you would have if you were bloody and bruised up (and possibly arrested) for fighting an asshole who you'll never see again.

I would have turned and walked away. If he had tried to keep it up, I would have turned on my heels and slugged him.

He's a jackass, so treat him like one by ignoring him if you can.

I had an incident once that made me so mad, just like you.

We were eating breakfast at shoney's one saturday morning..now I am a very courteous person, I think, whenever I walk in front of someone within say 3-4 feet, like at the grocery store I always say excuse me when I go by....

we had finished eating and were walking up to pay there was a couple prob 10 feet away that I passed in front of and the male person decided to get right up behind me and say...somebody needs to teach the white trash thing around here how to say excuse me when they walk in front of someone.

Now...I really hadnt paid them too much attention in the beginning because they were so far away...so I turned around and asked the "gentleman" if he was talking about me. He said "yeah I am bitch, you fucking apologize to my woman" well I got fired up and told him that when he apologized for using that language in front of my 8 year old child I would consider it. So he lets out with this stream of obscenities while moving closer to my daughter and looking right at her.

Needless to say I got pissed....I told the "woman" that she had my deepest sympathies and that I was sorry that she had to share the same air space with such an uncouth person....

By this time the manager, who some some one I kinda sorta knew because we'd eaten there every saturday for years, had come up and asked them both to leave the resturant immeditalely and to vacate the premises.

He very nicely told us that next saturday our breakfast would be free and then asked a policeman that was eating there at the time to escort us out to our car.

I fumed about that for a week!!!

I would have asked that policeman to take down the guy's info and have him charged with assault (as I believe that does count).

After he finished eating, of course :)

I commend you for yer patience and keepin yer cool. I'm no macho man myself but I don't know if I coulda done that. I had a similar situation happen to me at Hooters inside the resturant....I was looking at a shirt standing next to (close but not on her) a woman with a man and he pushed me and said "Watch it". I was very pissed. It didn't stop there they sat us at the table next to us and he was giving me ugly looks the whole night....he was apparently blowing smoke over at my friends too cause thats what they said. I also did nothing but for different reasons. He was an old white man and I'm a young mexican boy....best believe if I had done anything he woulda gotten his meal for free and I woulda been taken away in a cop car and banned from Hooters to boot.

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Sorry....I had to do it.

Asta!!

Sounds like he had some major inferiority issues. You've made all the right choices and came to all the right conclusions.

Your reward is walking away unscathed, save for a bruised ego.
His punishment is walking away with his oversize ego intact. Like you said, no matter what he'll do, he'll always be an insecure dickhead.

i would have made some smart ass comment about him compensating for his small penis, and turned and walked off. You were wise to just let it go.

Your girl should be proud of you for having the dignity to let that man walk away and keeping a cool head inspite of the insult. Probably most everyone watching were thinking that guy was a dickhead and admiring you for not falling into his trap. Kudos

You made the right the decision. I belive that people like this need to be taught their behavoir is unacceptable. It was his ego and insecurity of his own self that caused him to be such a dork. It is just fine to have those feelings but trying to dump on other people is out of the question. The situation rarely arrises for me since I wheigh in at 210 and 6'7". People tend to rethink their attitudes around me but if I were in your shoes (impossible with my US 17's) but I would have tried to escelate the situation.

Way to go, don't cater to jackasses like that trying to impress their women. I fail to see how starting a fight could ever impress a woman, or if it did, why she would ever be worth staying with.

Exactly, who wants to be with a women who would be proud of such acts. People like this jackass should have the living shit beat out of them, but not by you, you dont need to lower yourself to his level, let some other loser take care of it :), after all, what goes around comes around.

If it were me I would probably want to bash his head against the wall till I saw brain matter leak out, but I would not actually do that. I would be thinking about it for quite a while though, and probably would be pissed off for months to come, even though I shouldnt be.

As for the person who said they're daughter was cussed at directly, the person who did the cussing should have his arms and legs amputated, tied to a skateboard and be pushed down a hill. A child should NEVER have to listen to or be subjected to that sort of behavior by some careless, rude, trashy fool.

You did the right thing. However, if I were in your situation, I know exactly how I would react. If some fuck puts his hands on me, I'm gonna get violent. I don't care how big or small, old or young he is. I will react. But, like I said, you handled the situation good.

Un-fucking-real. If I was in your shoes, I would have attacked this piece of shit with intent to kill. What kind of scum threatens a child? If there is one thing in this world I will, without hesitation, kill and/or die for, it's my family. You make a move towards someone I love, you WILL have to deal with me. And when I get mad, I am not pleasent to deal with.

If some guy did that to me, I would probably smile at him while he was yelling, then when he finished up his tirade, I would hock a big, fat ball of spit on his face. Then proceed to get my ass stomped into the concrete.

The title of this thread made me think of something that happened to me a few weeks ago. I was at a Modest Mouse concert, and was already getting pretty pissed at the stupid kids moshing in front of me (Come on...its Modest Mouse, not Slayer...), but was ignoring it. Then this other guy right next to me, whom I will also call Jerkoff, starts pushing everyone in the vacinity of usaround, trying to start a pit. While he did that, he managed to jump on my broken big toe 5 times, which made me pretty mad. I told him to knock that shit off, but he just kept doing it. The next time he slammed into me, I gave him a little extra "boost" when he was rebounding off of me. He landed a ways away, ass down on the floor, and was too shocked to do anything about it. If he stood up and started something, I would have probably done what you did, because I wasnt ABOUT to get kicked out of the concert on the 3rd song.

Holy shit, If I had a young child and someone did that to me, I would have went apeshit on them. They'd be lucky if they were alive after that. That is unfuckingreal what that asshole did.

Dude! That's my word! :lol:

Ha! I forgot about that. Nice. New picture, too.




I appreciate everyone's feedback. I feel better about not retaliating now.

If I were reading this thread I'd probably reply that I would have kicked the shit out of him if it were me.

But, honestly, being in the situation was entirely different than what I would have thought. It happened pretty quickly and since I wasn't in any kind of mood to argue with anyone, not to mention fight, it took me a minute to fully react to it. I would have had to follow him up the street if I had wanted to pick a fight with him. Then I'd look like the instigator. Just a bad situation all around. But that's why we have imaginations I guess. So we can imagine stomping on some asshole's face. Over and over again.

Oh trust me I was ready to go off on him....my little 5'2 self had riled up, fingernails were out, the hair on my head all fuzzed up (is that a good enuff illusion to a pissed off cat?)

Had the manager not walked up when he did I'd have been all over him like white on rice....so its probably best because my daughter didnt need to see that anymore than she needed to hear the cussing lol

Grin. Just keep grinning while he talks and occasionally smooch a couple of kisses in the air toward him. Then wink.

Trust me, it won't be misconstrued as gay, and if it enrages him into doing something further, then the cops will be dragging his ass away.

My experience with this is that it's a modern way of communicating, "Go ahead. Make my day."

He wasn't right in the head, that's for sure. The best thing to do in that situation is just blow him off and enjoy the rest of your date.

I'm definitely in the category of "huge motherfucker," so I usually don't have to worry about people acting like that. If that ever happens, I'd like to think I would have to wits to smile and ask for their name. I would then pick up my phone, punch some numbers, and look them in the eye when I say...

"Yeah, San Francisco PD? Good. I would like to press charges for assault on an -Insert Asshole Name Here-. Physical description is as follows..."

In actuality I would probably smolder a lot, yell a bit, and then go home and listen to Rammstein for awhile.

I am far from what one would call an instigator, but if someone pushed me from behind.... I would have come around swinging. BAM! Right in the face.

walk away..... live to see another day.

excuse yourself to the restroom. hope he follows. kick his fucking teeth in behind closed doors. leave him for dead. wash up. locate your SO and continue happily with your night.

people like that need to get taught a lesson eventually, and i dont mind that most of you will let him get away with this kind of behavior. just know that somewhere someone like him is getting his from someone like me.

Yeah, yeah, you did the right thing, of course you did...but that doesn't always make it any easier. I had a situation like this happen a month or so ago. The guy was easily three times my size, but that didn't stop me from going up to him (after he walked away) to ask him what his problem was. Luckily someone smarter than me convinced me to just walk away. I would have been pummeled. But man, was I pissed. I can't stand when someone is disrespectful, no matter who or how big they are.


One time, this guy drove into the middle of an intersection in the city, and I gave him a dirty look for nearly running over my feet. He yelled after me and called me a "motherfucker." So I just smiled, looked at him and said, "I'm sorry, what? I can't hear you." He repeated himself. I did it again, and he just started screaming and honking his horn. Most of the people around me started laughing at how much he was freaking out.

Some people have issues. Best not to play into them, but sometimes you just can't help fucking with them a little bit.

Of course, I did all of this from a distance. :D

Well to answer your question, no I won’t fight; I am for the most part a pacifist. But, if some one would to push a close friend, ill come down on them with everything I’ve got. I don’t really care what people do or say to me, but as soon as they bring a friend into it, my blood boils.

You use the term "jerkoff" as an insult. You have never seen the person in question masturbate. It implies that everyone who masturbates, or "jerks off" is somehow a belligerent, insensitive macho man. I can attest to the fact that even normal people, male and female, engage in the act of self-pleasure, and would be offended at the use of the term "jerkoff" in such a derogatory manner.

This is just one of those situtations where you undoubtedly did the right thing, but it's hard not to look back on it and think of all the things you could have done to get this guy back. But you can't change any of it now, and I agree that you made the right choice. It was very big of you not to stoop to his level.

in that case, I would say you need to lighten up and accept the fact that "jerkoff" has become synonymous with "jerk." Otherwise you're gonna spend your whole life getting offended.

I would have laughed at him and then walked away. If he continued to pursue the issue I would have corrected him ... in whichever way it took to get my point across.

If I was alone I prolly woulda swung on him. Ppl don't look for a left hand. ;)


If I was with my gf or kid I would do my best to remove us from the situation-as "the man" I have the responsibility to protect those I love and starting or getting into a fight isn't a good idea for their safety in the off chance I lose and the asshole goes after them. Now if he's dumb enough to threaten them or start shit while we're leaving he gets punched in the throat straight off. I haven't swung on someone in almost 15 years and don't consider myself a badass but I don't put up with anyone threatening my family for any reason.

if a man lays his hands on me in anger, we're brawlin. simple as that. its not a matter of me lowering myself to his standards or anything along those lines...

I've always wanted to get in a good fight with a random asshole... and either win or lose, I think they are both something that I need to experience. Ive been in two fights in my life but both lasted about 3 seconds and 2 hits (me hitting him, and him hitting the ground.)

I've always wanted to get in a good fight with a random asshole... and either win or lose, I think they are both something that I need to experience. Ive been in two fights in my life but both lasted about 3 seconds and 2 hits (me hitting him, and him hitting the ground.) So, obviously, I would throw an immediate punch.

No offense, but this is the oddest (and funniest) reply to a post I've ever read.

Like Shakran said, the insult is just a catchall. When I say it I mean jerk or asshole.

I think we can agree that we all jerk off, but when I call someone a "jerkoff" masturbating is usually the farthest thing from my mind.

This is a real stupid outlook. You shouldn't hope to get into a fight. You can very well end up dead or disfigured. I have a couple chipped teeth, my jaw is slightly misaligned and I have a couple dents in my head because of random fights. Don't look for trouble, but don't back down if it finds you, that's my stance on it. Because believe me, you look for trouble, there are plenty of people that will indulge you, and these people will undoubtedly have more experiance than you, and you will probably be losing. Losing isn't fun, the other person basically has your life in their hands. But that's just my conclusions I've drawn from my experiances.

I would have done the same as you did not unless he would have pushed me again the it would have been on but most people dont push me im kinda a big fella.

good point there. <<takes a note for future reference>>

this will come in handy

Let it go the guy is a "Fuckin Jag-off" fighting would have probably resulted in two things, One bodily injury no matter how good you whipped his ass or took a ass whipping it hurts in the morning. Two JAIL, Jail sucks. Probably got his ass whipped any way when he got home by his wife for makeing a sceen in public like that! If she let it go then thats two more assholes in the world!

Years ago, me and a friend where walking up the local high street, running some errands etc. My buddy needed to use the ATM, and one of the local teenage "we hang out here gang" members decided to use my buddy as a leaning pole.

My friend was trying to get his money out of the atm, while telling this idiot to disapear, but wasnt having any sucess. The teen was getting more and more rowdy, and smashed a bottle of wine he was drinking from on the wall and lunged for my buddy.

With one quick pop, my friend knocked him to the floor, and then turned to one of the idiots groupies, who attempted to take a lunge at my friend, and proceded to knock him to lay next to the first guy.

There was a ROAR of cheers and clapping from people shopping and coming out of buildings, because these youths have really become a nasty problem in that town.

It was like a scene from a movie. I was real proud of my friend for standing up. He was getting thanked all day too.

I would've stood there and smiled.

The bigger the crisis, the calmer I get.

In my fantasy world I would have said "allow me to apologize" and then turned to his wife and said "madam, I am truely sorry that you had to be embarassed in public like this by your raging asshole of a husband." Then he would have taken a swing at me, I would have caught his fist with my left hand, then knocked him out with a right cross to the jaw, and gone back to the line to the applause of the crowd.

In reality I probably would have done exactly what you did, stood there dumbfounded and 20 minutes later gotten really pissed off and spent the rest of the night thinking of witty comebacks that I should have used.

i would provoke him till he took the 1st swing, then his knock his block off (then again, it would have been my 1st fistfight)

'slong it aint a woman jerkoff

my first instinct would be, elbow to the teeth.

then calmly walk away :)

you're a better man than me, seriously, good job at not escalating it!

I'd only fight in that situation if he was:

a) insulting my girlfriend, or anything where you need to stand up for whats right

b) threatening my personal safety with his actions...

I don't think trying to show off for his wife is threatening enough to fight... but thats just me

i think you made the right choice

Look at it this way: if you would have fought, you would have probably kicked his ass and injured him. Injuring people brings about legal consequences, so it was a good thing that you let this piece of garbage go about his miserable existence.

I probably would have reacted the same way you did. It amazes me that people walk around just ready to fight. The way this guy reacted would have startled me too, and I would have trouble making a decision. I hope if it ever comes down to it, I won't hesitate.

Yup. Nothing pisses them off more to know they can't get to you, and it's very personally satisfying. If you were gonna fight, it would have happened already.

He'd have kissed the floor so fast his children would be born with rug burn. No one threatens a child on my watch- and I hate kids.

Dude. Jerkoff IS an insult. I'm not sure where you're from (geographically) or how you were brought up, but "jerkoff" IS an insult, and has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with self-gratification. It's the same as jackass, jackoff, jerkface, fuckwad, fucktard, asshat, etc.

Well for me there are only two options. Do nothing, or kill em. I always go for the former rather than the latter.

I am a big fan of witty retorts. Something along the line of " Oh, I thought that was your mom, aren't you out past your curfew, young man?" Then when you are assaulted you can really make it stick. It is hard to make a shove stick when there are not any physical symptoms. I am about 50/50 with the witty comebacks, though. Sometimes I can think of them, and sometimes I just stand there and take it. They do not work so well if they do not have the appropriate wit. Yelling "Ungh......Stupidhead!!!" just does not have the right effect. They just think you are slow. (Trust me.) Keep a couple ready just in case. Try "you know what they say about people with small hands, right?" or "Isn't tonight group night?" or something that applys to people in a general sense.

Good luck next time.

If at all possible, turn around and walk off. Keep in mind that nobody is so tough, or mean, that somewhere there isn't someone tougher, and meaner...just laying for him.

here's one for you, a recent event near my hometown. two assholes roadraging and cutting eachother off on the freeway. they come to the light on the freeway offramp. asshole number 1 gets out of his car, and starts yelling at asshole number 2 and kicking his tires and whatnot. Asshole number 2 gets out of his car and STABS asshole number 1, asshole number 1 pulls out his gun and shoots asshole number 2. neither are dead, both are in the hospital, and have alot of explaining to do.