Florida Teacher Accused Of Sex With 14-Year-Old Boy
 

http://www.local10.com/news/3457211/detail.html

What a stupid kid. If I was 14 year old and had sex with my 23 year old hot teacher(I'm not saying the teacher in the article is hot), why would I tell my mom? :crazy:

http://thesmokinggun.com/graphics/ar...8042teach1.jpg

I dunno... I'd play with her for 15 minutes on the bouncy bouncy mat.

http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html

Would you have the same attitude if it were a male teacher and a female student?

If i were the student i would have nominated her for the teacher of the year award.

i bet the kid is full of shit. i dont see a 23 yr old married woman wanting to sex up a 14 yr old boy... but i suppose i could be wrong.

Exactly. It's sick either way.

Depends if I'm a horny teenage girl and the male teacher was a handsome hunk.

I dont know.. sounds cooked up to me. More likely the kid is just trying to look good to the big kids

Well, obviously if true, it's wrong. But for that to actually happen to the kid?

It's the stuff porno is made of.

Society is fucked up.

It's oh so cool for a 14 year old boy to have sex with his hot 23 year old teacher, but if a 14 year old girl has sex with her hot 23 year old teacher well.... That guy is a sick pervert.

The boy maybe cool, but there's something definitely wrong with the woman wanting to give a hummer to a child. that's gotta be somewhat perverted

Not aruing with you...I can't, because...you're right.
But...that's the way it's viewed. I don't pretend to understand it, except as more of the "double standard". I'll contemplate it, while I forego the obligatory "Woot!! Go kid!".

If it was true that is one stupid kid. When I was 13 my study hall teacher was 25 and married she let me feel her up. I never told my mom or anyone else didn't want to ruin a good thing. But my luck I think she got scared and nothing ever happend again. I still see this lady around town and she always turns RED in the face when I speak. She is married to a very rich ugly dick. Just think she could have had me a great looking broke dick HaHa

News this morning said she was in the backseat of a car playing with the 14 yr old, while a 15 yr old friend drove around. Yikes. Hard to believe she is that stupid. Given that she is very attractive, the media is going to have a field day with this one. Perhaps should turn to the Long Island Lolita for some advice....

lucky kid!

and being the father of 2 girls, if it were the other way around I'd be mad as hell. now if I had a son, and he got a hummer from that teacher, I'd probably give him a beer.

society is fucked up, but that's the way it is.

Meh. She shouldn't have done it, but it's not that big of a deal to me. Was the husband really that bad in bed that a 14 y/o would be better?

I'll admit that society has a double standard about this topic, and, I think both are ultimately wrong.

However, i'm sure there are few men among us who never looked at a teacher at some point during their education with a lecherous twinkle in their eye.

Does she deserved to be punished?

Probably.

Does kid deserve a reprimand? That's up for you to decide. If he were my kid, I probably wouldn't be too happy with him.

But as a youth, I cannot honestly claim moral righteousness and condemn him for actions and decisions that I, if put in the same situation, might also make.

(On a sidenote, i wonder what happened to that teacher a few years back who got herself pregnant with the 12-year old kid?)

I read the police report on this link and holy cow there was a lot more going on there than just a couple of hummers!! She's an attractive enough woman but whooooahl...what the FUCK was she thinking?

http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/0628042teach1.html

How is this any different from a male pedophile?


Holy crap, the sex in the car happened right down the road from my Grandparents place. Crazy!

She is a hottie but what a stupid biatch.

Yikes! We have a messed up society if we praise a 14 year old boy for having sex with hot teacher, yet condemn the act if it was a 14 year old girl. I recently posted a thread about a friend of mine who is now on the run for a very similar act just a few weeks ago. Previous to this event, I probably would have given kudos to the boy, but after this recent act of my friend, I have changed my views on the subject.

Thing is, when I was a kid, I had several hot teachers that I wanted to fuck. It is every young boy's dream to get in the pants of their hot teacher. What do you think wet dreams are made of? We always joked with our friends about wanting to do such and such with them, but never had the opportunity. So, on one hand, I see where some of your praise of the boy comes from.....you are living vicariously through him as you would have liked to be that kid many moons ago. Unfortunately, because of my own personal experience, I no longer feel the need to live vicariously through a kid.......

So it's wrong if it's consensual?

Another side note - her sister was killed recently.
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From what I understand, these are just allegations made against her, but if they're true she very well could have been going through some sort of emotional reaction to her sister's death. I'm not saying it would justify her actions, but it is an interesting side note...albeit it was two years ago, but still - if nothing else, bad time for that family.

I remember being 14 and thinking that something like this would be the coolest thing that could ever happen to me. That's why people say go boy! Because we all know that 90% of 14 year old boys would be happy if any girl would have sex with them. I remember coping a feel on a teacher when I was 12. On the other hand if it was a girl, we know that generally 14 year old girls are not as compelled to have sex with anyone. Even when 14 year old girls have sex with 14 year old boys there is probably a certain amount of persuasion/cohersion being applied by the boy. That's why everyone feels like a girl is being taken advantage of. I really don't feel like that's a double standard. I know that if that teacher had come up to me when I was 14 that I would have shagged her rotten. And I'd still be happy about it to this day. I can't imagine to many women having that same outlook. Generally adolesecent boys and girls think of sex differently. Some of that difference is societies influence but a lot of it is hormonal.

Now as for the adult's involvement, I don't think it matters if it's a man or a woman they have problems. I do think that psychological treatment is a better alternative to jail for this women because I really doubt that much harm was done to the boy. She had no authority over him (she wasn't his teacher), she made no promises or threats, she just asked him if he wanted to have sex. I really don't think the boy is much of a victim here. He probably would have continued the relationship as long as he could. Remember he didn't tell his mom, they just got caught. If they had commited any other crime together (consenually with the same amount of cohersion) the boy would not be looked upon as a victim.

She wasnt by chance the sex ed teacher was she?

The article said that she taught reading.

14 year olds need reading teachers?

I think the accusation sounds a bit incredible, considering the teacher. My feeling is that this student has a vendetta.

Yup.

1) It's illegal. I'm pretty sure the age of concent in Florida isn't 14.
2) She's in a position of authority
3) It's just fucking wrong.

She's not his teacher. I don't know what grade she teaches. When I was in 6th grade (12 years old) we still had a reading class (it was just English class but it was called Reading).

The police report states that the officers had the kid call up the teacher (while they listened in) and tell her that he was worried about their lack of condom use. The teacher admitted to having sex with him and told him not to worry about condoms. The police also had the kid arrange another meeting with the teacher and they arrested her at that meeting. So it really sounds like she did it.

Having wished I could ahve experienced something similar when I was that age, I gotta say that I wouldn't have told a soul!

If making sweet love to your middle-school teacher is wrong, I don't wanna be right...

Kind of like the Pamela Smart case except the boy she seduced told his mother rather than killing her husband

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notoriou...s/family/smart

Right or wrong, looking at her I would have had sex with her at fourteen and never looked back! She on the other hand must have some sort of as yet unexplained instability to be sexually attracted to a fourteen year old boy. The "forbidden" aspect I can see turning one on as a concept but I'm not sure I see how a boy's body could be that physically attractive to her. I'm sure we'll hear a lot more about it in the news and an eventual poorly made television movie.
As for the double standard aspect, I agree it isn't right but I think I might have a handle on where it comes from as pertains to this situation. Reality or not, young girls around the age of 14 are still seen as naive, still innocent, perhaps easily coerced or manipulated and physically less able to defend themselves. Boys of 14 however are seen as being immature yet guided by hormones that drive them sexually. They are also seen as being able to defend themselves and being physically stronger than girls or even an older woman. Therefore it is perceived that any girl with an older man is being taken advantage of and any boy with an older woman is just following instinct and taking advantage of the situation. The rational being that as a young "man" he could stop the situation at any time through his physical strength while the young girl might not. Not saying its right, but the double standard is there.

According to the CNN.com article, both kids were able to describe the teacher's physical markings, such as birthmarks. Doesn't sound good for the adult, nope.

How much of a loser 23yr old blonde girl do you have to be that you can't get laid unless you take advantage of a 14yr old?

It's not like she's ugly or anything... I'd hit it I was drunk in a bar.

so are you trying to say that it should be considered cool for the 14 year old girl and 23 year old teacher situation, too? :p

It was his personal opinion, based on his sex being male and the techer being female. Let's not be too eager to pounce on his odd comment.

I hope the truth comes out, whatever it is... the sad thing is, you never really live an accusation down. People go through hell over stuff like this.

stupid bitch... shes married and everything

that being said if i were 14 and she were my teacher id definetly hit that.

Word to that! That kid is lucky :D

http://www.mjmorningshow.com/timages...agazineMJ1.jpg


More Photos of Debra Lafave

There are even a couple of her wedding photos, but I had to draw the line there. It would too much in poor taste to do so. But if you’re crafty enough, google might help you find them.

Detention never had so many kids lining up . . . .

Man, where was she when I was a 14yr old (actually she was 5) . . . . but you get the idea

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now im wondering if the kids found pictures of her (similiar to the first one that was linked by Cicero) that could show birth marks in different areas that would usually be covered up at school?
I too must say that its sick because of the age gap but in the same situation i would of went in and kept it to myself, it would be one hell of an ego boost.

Because pedophilia involves children. Children that have no interest in sex because, by definition, they haven't entered puberty yet. They are therefore being forced or tricked somehow into doing things that are unnatural to them.

This case has none of those characteristics. A 14 year old is not a child in any sense but the legal one. He could very easily look 16-18, which would put him in a reasonable range for a young woman to be physically attracted to him. Further, 14 year old boys want sex. They probably want it more then than at any other time in their lives. This was in no sense a forced act.

He also will not regret his actions later. Well maybe now that she's in jail over it, but he would've been fine otherwise.

So it was consentual, and he probably looked essentially adult. For a fuckbuddy type relationship, that's really all you need.

Its easy to see why the "double standard" everyone is talking about exists. Look at the responses on this thread, or equivalent threads on any other board. Men and women seem to have very different views on this. Its remarkable how uniformly divided they are.

Has anyone entertained the idea that this whole story is made up?

I have. I sincerely doubt it. I think maybe the kid is making it up, or his dad wanted some of her and got denied, and this is his payback.

I'd bet money this is bullshit.

Sure, I have thought it to be a farce too. I have heard far stranger stories though so it isn't hard to believe either.

A few points:

1. Children don't have the legal ability to consent. Otherwise the same thing could happen with a 5 year old if he was sufficiently duped.

2. The whole double standard thing.

3. He went to the police...how the hell can you say he wasn't disturbed by this, or even call him stupid, if he went to the police? That's almost like saying that a female rape victim deserved it because she was wearing slutty clothes...you're second guessing the victim and that makes me sad.

whole situation smacks of weird.

Just married attractive young woman.
14yr old boy
15yr kid driving a car while sex is happening in the back seat.
double standard for women and men as pedophiles.

I can't say that its cool for the boy or not. I can't say it would be cool for anyone unless that situation was mine.
I can say that if he told his Mom which is a big deal He was obviously upset about it.

I just saw this on the news, she is quite a looker...
I find it hard to believe how a woman attractive such as she would do something like this...so, I remain skeptical, wouldn't surprise me if this was made up.

She has stated she did it because she "liked the danger"

I see no reason not to believe it.

I also see no reason not to be appalled by it...

...other than blatantly sexist ones.

Just go back to the mjmorningshow homepage for other pics. In the freshman yearbook photos I recognize 3 kids. She graduated from my university... and some of the sex happened less than 10 min from my house. That's funny I didn't know they updated the page. Makes and Models is a magazine that my friends dad is the editor of as well. 23 is way too young to be married. This is perfect proof of it. Anyways when you see her pictures you know that she looks like a stripper/porn star... or just someone that really likes sex. This ordeal doesn't surprise me. I have had hot subs, but in Tampa a teacher like this is not the norm.

It is great to see what is becoming of my hometown. I mean Superbowl Champs then NHL Champs then sex with teachers.

Here's more stuff about it - wedding pics, police reports, etc..

http://www.schnittshow.com/main.html

Thanks for the link stompy. I am still clueless as to why she would do this. The guy she married seems like a good looking guy. All I want to know is WHY?????

She's extremely cute. That doesn't make her smart though.

Everyone knows she should have gone to the high school to pick up guys.

as for the reason - it is not mysterious as reported in many places already. she is alleged to have stated many times that it turned her on to do something dangerous and illegal.

He didn't "go to the police". Read the police report....

That's right He didn't go to the police and he didn't tell his mom. The mom of the friend who drove them around overheard them talking about it. She told his mom. When his mom confronted him he tried to lie, but was caught. His mom then called the police.

Also the police setup a phone conversation between the teacher and the kid. The police heard her admit that they were having sex. I don't see how the kid could have made up the story unless the police report is fake.

It's all in the police report. Read it at thesmokinggun.com.

I am now wondering if in the near future we will here that she has posed for one of the Men's magazines to pay her legal fees.
She is a very attractive young lady and i would imagine one of the publisher's would really jump on this.
I know that some states have laws to prevent criminal's from profiting from their crime's ( Movie deals and Book deals). If they photo's were taken before her conviction, they might be able to print them.
However, by posing, she might hurt her legal case, you know, implying she is "That type" of woman.
One thing you can probably count on is, she won't be getting any more teaching offer's, even if she is aquitted. Not many school districts would want that publicity. Guilty in the press!!

Ditto - hell if she don't have any diseases - it's all good.
How many kids can say "I schtupped the teacher"?

http://www.foxnews.com/photo_essay/p...debra_bike.jpg

Wow! I would hate to see teachers prey on their students but man if I was 14 and hooked up with that.:crazy:

It looks like her face was photoshopped on. The skin tones don't match at all.

Either that or she really needs to find a new foundation :lol:

BAD photoshop

Sorry, but im confused as to what you're going on about.

YIm getting the impression from what you've said that you're thinking something along the lines of: "if this was a young girl and an old guy there would be outrage! but because it's a young guy and a old girl it's acceptable! what a fucked up society!!"...yet, it's not acceptable. Look at all the media, and all the charges brought on the women by the police. Clearly, there is a massive outrage over this incident.

Unless, you're pissed off because a bunch of jokers on the internet are saying it would be cool to do that as a 14 year old...in which case, you need to take what you read on the internet less seriously...

You can't change what individual thoughts think; some people think that killing people is cool, others think that having sex with young children is cool. That will never change no matter what you do.

However, saying that "society" accepts older women having sex with young boys just because a few people are saying it's cool is..rediculous. The very fact that there is huge media, community, police, whatever, outroar over this event SHOWS that this is no longer acceptable in our society.

I agree pretty much what you said except for this part. I realize that the TFP isn't exactly the best cross-section of society. I mean, it's got forums specifically for porn, of course guys are going to say "I'd hit it."

But I still think that most people don't think this is nearly as bad as a 23 year old male teacher having sex with a 14 year old female student. But hey, I could be wrong. It's been known to happen a time or two :)

Ok, I agree that it isn't seen as being as bad. I was confused and thought you were saying that it is seen as being acceptable.

I'm oddly aroused by this situation.

I find it hard to consider a 14 year old a child. Certainly not an adult, but definitely not a child.

I just don't get it. I don't care if he did look 16-18...14 yrs old shouldn't be attractive to a 23 yr old woman. One news report I heard stated she liked it because it was bad or wrong or some shit...come on.

Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaagg made a double post...read below.

I just heard about this on CBS's Early Show and was shocked to find a five-month old thread on Ms. Lafave. As a member of the male gender I'm obligated to say "I'd hit it regardless of my age and carry a smile on my face." OK, glad I got that out of my system. Go to www.cbs.com and their Early Show section and they may still have the video up. http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earl...arlyShow.shtml

The smoking gun has a new feature about her on the site. It looks like they released the police file on the case. Pretty weird.

IDK to me a 14 year old boy knows whats going on enough to go along with what happened.

To say it is morally wrong is ethnocentric.
However, it is illegal, and she should be punished as such.

Better watch out or somebody might tag you for serving alcohol to minors... :rolleyes:

But seriously, all the guys on here that're rooting the kid on, stop. Averett seems to be one of the more sensible people on here in pointing out that it's no different than if it were a male teacher and a female student. What's more, there's the legality issue (though I find that to be the lesser of the issues here).

Honestly, I think the kid's making it all up. Maybe she wasn't his teacher, but a friend's? I've known kids to attack teachers by making things up before and, while people can be pretty screwed up, I find it hard to believe that she was attracted to a 14 year old. Not because of how she looks, but because of the immaturity of the average 14 year old. Imagine you're in her position. Is a pimply, whiny, kid the kind of thing you desire? The whole story just doesn't cut it with me, doesn't add up quite right.

IMHO, boys and girls are different. A young boy having sex with an older lady is probably not going to effect him nearly as much as a young girl with an older man. We are just wired differently, no matter what the law says. Come on guys, think back. Do you really think it would have harmed you to nail one of your sexy teachers? Girls seem to take matters of love and sex much more seriously than boys at that age.

Yeah society is sexist. Women are still seen as lower than men.
What is good enough for a 14 year old boy isn't seen that way for a girl the same age. But people still think of girls as weaker and it's a shame.

I don't think her position is any more sensible than someone who says that this is acceptable behavior. especially if that person thinks if the gender roles were reversed, that situation would be acceptable, too.
As I do.

Where does the outrage stem from other than the fact that those outraged accept the laws as determined. I think these age categories are outmoded and irrational. I'd also note that the reason for the outrage differential between boys/girls is not due to females being "weaker" sex, but maybe people think that. Even if it were, it should be noted that a 14 year old girl is more mature than a 14 year old boy. But if either one can understand the difference between right and wrong, between sexuality and not being a sexual being, then all power to the two human beings deciding what they want to do with their lives outside the webs of control society feels the need to constrain their human sexuality.


I ask myself this: if a 14 year old boy or girl can decide to pick up a gun and kill someone, resulting in being charged as an adult and sent to prison

and if that same adolescent can decide to aid in committing a "crime" by saying--don't worry, I won't tell if we do this or that

then that same adolescent is demonstrating the same mental capacity of determining between right and wrong for himself just as the 14 year old can be determined to be of adult reasoning capacity in the offense of murder.


if an adolescents can be determined to reason like an adult when committing murder or assault, then they can be determined to reason like an adult when it comes to sex.

What I think is "fucked up" is people wedded to traditional views on behavior or laws without critically assessing the foundation they rest upon.

Thats a good point. A teacher has sex with a 14 year old girl and you'd call the teacher a paedophile, and if it was your daughter you'd be ready to kill the guy. A 14 year old boy, and most people's natural reaction is "lucky bastard"

Double standard... I guess, but I cant deny my own reaction is similar. If I had had the chance at 14 I would have, and I wouldnt expect anyone to call me a victim.

Where have all these sex-having teachers been when I was in school? :confused:

Ok this is purely from a male perspective but I don't consider this a double standard. Yes I come down on an older guy for having sexual relations with a young female...I also don't think what the teacher in this case did was right and I'm not defending her. BUT considering I know what it's like to be a horn dog 14 year old...if I had a hot teacher that wanted to do that with me at that age...you couldn't have stopped me short of killing me. So I guess for this not to be a double standard..."If I was a 14 year old girl that had a chance to hump my teacher I would.". But for me to say that I'd have to be a female and I'm not so I can't say that because I've never had that experience. But I HAVE had the experience of wishing I had the ability to put the spurs to the teacher.
So in short...adult should have known better. Kid is going to be a kid and most of us guys had we had the opportunity at that age would have done the same. The end.

I think the double standard is all about men viewing sex as conquest.

I would like to say I was didnt, but if this was a story about a 14 year old girl, I would feel protective to her and hostile to the adult. With the roles reversed, I cant help thinking the boy has done what most boys his age would love to do - to me the teacher almost seems the victim. The boy got what he wanted, then needs to go snitch on her? I guess it is hypocritical, but I dunno.

Did anyone here the audio of the phone call between them? His voice was all garbled, but she sounded like a little kid. Reminded me of some of those girls you hear on love line...

Either way, I wish I had teachers who looked like that when I was in middle school. :p

I've hit girls that have looked worse then her. If I was that 13 year old I would of kept my mouth SHUT. You are getting free sex, free stuff, from a better then average woman. This is what all 13 year old guys dreamed of.

Oh to be back in school.

so would i. Id also have Van Halen "Hot for Teacher" blaring in the background!

Bragging maybe? "Hey mom! Guess who I F%*&ed today!"

and hot for teacher is the best song.... EVER.

Lucky little bastard!

If he was a stud sure why not. Lucky her!

What 13 year old boy, that was getting some, has ever, in the history of mankind, kept his mouth shut?
Especially in this case. She's not to bad on the eyes, guys. She's caused, I should imagine, more than her fair share of adolescent erections. You think for one second that this kid's not gonna tell every one that he knows; "Hey, guess what. Y'know Mrs. LaFave? Yeah...uh-huh...well, I'm taggin' her. Yeah, no shit."
Now, whether or not this is what he should have done is another story.

Man, what a retard. He gets free head from his hot teacher, and goes and tells. Is this not every 14 year old boy's fantasy???

"Hey, teacher, I've got my pencil! Wanna give me something to write on???"

Eighteen is not a universal age of consent. Not even in the US.

why didnt i have teachers like her?

That's the way it is? Yeah, why bother to engage with or defeat the contradictions at the heart of your being? Why bother to grow, or change? Why bother to rationalise? Just beat up the supply teacher guy who's raped your daughter, meanwhile reward your son with a beer for fucking his maths teacher...

To me, that just looks like you're not thinking about the things you do.

Aside: I'm sorry, I can't slap this kid on the back and say well done. It's just fucking creepy. I don't care what anyone says, you're not ready to just hop in the sack with anyone at the age of fucking 14. All he's picking up here is a totally negative image of women and sexuality at an extremely early age. Maybe next week he'll tag one of his classmates and knock her up. What then?

And the teacher has got a fucking screw loose.

Dude, I'm almost thirty and 14 was kinda late among all the people I know. So, what early 90's? Yeah, if he was anything like any of the kids my wife deals with or the ones I know through older siblings, he could have had more sexual experience than a lot of adults I know.

Maybe most importantly, this might open up some insight for those with daughters on this board if you are worried about that sort of thing.

She is a sex offender and needs/will be punished. Her husband, I think, has already divorced her. The audio tapes have been realeased. She is talking to the boy about going to Ocala, Florida and the "next time" The boy and police set her up and had their phone conversation taped.
It's very wrong. She is a sick women.....

Be interested to know in what capacity your wife deals with these kids.

I'm not questioning that 14-year-olds and kids even younger are engaging in sexual activity. I'm sure I could go out to a random school here and grab a kid 10 years my junior who's had more pussy than me. Heh, maybe I'm just jealous.

What I am saying is that just because it goes on doesn't make it right. While you have to take into account that different kids mature at different rates, I don't believe it's right for a 14-year-old child to be behaving as if they are sexually mature. In my opinion, it's a dangerous patter of behaviour, a dangerous precedent if you will, for a child of that age to be getting into.

Obviously it can lead to pregnancy, STDs, and all the rest of it, but it's also about emotional and mental wellbeing. Kids are simply not mature enough to deal with what they are doing. Sex is a weapon in the wrong hands, it needs to be handled carefully. Humans, in my opinion, are cursed with complicating emotions that can make sport fucking extremely damaging. Adults have the capability to separate and deal with it, we can look at sex, and say, yeah, it's just sex. Kids? They don't know shit.

It's down to good parenting to ensure that your children are not off fucking at the age of 14, because they simply are not stable enough to deal with it. In my opinion, it can foreshadow serious emotional adequacy problems in later life (this coming from a guy whose ex lost her cherry at 12 and continued her promiscuity throughout her teens - yeah, it wasn't fun)

And I know it was the same during my teens. I didn't have sex until I was 21, and I had very little experience of any kind before that, for varying reasons. Do I think it damaged me? Sometimes I feel a twinge of regret, but on the whole, I think my sexual outlook is a lot healthier now for having abstained.