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Astrocloud 04-06-2004 02:13 PM

Welcome to Liberty University... welcome to Hell!
 
Okay TFPers, Here are the rules to Liberty University. This is the conduct code for a REAL University. Not only is devil worship and listening to unapproved music forbidden but so is attending dances and "anything more than hand holding". In fact if you miss convocation whilst going to school -that's the equivalent to "borrowing" something without permission.

And you thought Your School was hell.



Student Affairs

Reprimands and Consequences

1 Reprimand

* Curfew violation (1 additional reprimand for each half-hour late until 2:00 a.m.)

4 Reprimands + Written Warning

* Allowing unauthorized overnight visitor in residence room
* Absence from required meeting
* Disturbance/non-participation during Convocation
* Dress/hair code violation: male or female
* Failure to respond to an official call slip within 48 hours
* Horseplay (plus financial restitution)
* Improper personal contact (anything beyond hand-holding)
* Improper sign out
* Missing Convocation
* Music code violation
* Outside residence hall after curfew
* Residence hall disturbance/noise violation
* Unauthorized borrowing (plus financial restitution)

6 Reprimands + $35 Fine

* Attendance at a dance
* Direct disobedience/disrespect
* Disassembly or removal of residence hall furniture
* Entering entryway of opposite sex on campus or allowing the same
* Gambling
* Improper social behavior
* Possession and/or use of tobacco
* Unauthorized room change

12 Reprimands + $70 Fine

(less previously paid fines)


* Attendance at, possession or viewing of, an "R," "NC-17" or "X"-rated movie
* Deception
* Entering the residence hallway of the opposite sex or allowing the same
* Entering the space above ceiling tiles
* Malicious horseplay/behavior (plus financial restitution)
* Obscene, profane or abusive language or behavior
* Out of residence hall overnight or substantial portion of the night without permission (after 2:00 a.m.)
* Participation in an unauthorized petition or demonstration
* Possession and/or viewing of pornography
* Possession of a school key without authorization
* Safety/security violation
* Students of the opposite sex visiting alone at an off-campus residence

18 Reprimands + $100 Fine

(regardless of previously paid fines) + 18 hours Disciplinary Community Service + 50% Scholarship Reduction


* Association with those consuming alcohol
* Commission of a misdemeanor
* Entering a residence hall apartment or quad of the opposite sex or allowing the same
* Entering bedroom of the opposite sex on/off campus or allowing the same
* Failure to properly identify oneself
* Falsification of information on an official document
* Lying to a dean during an official investigation
* Racial harassment
* Sexual harassment (i.e., unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors or other conduct or comments of a sexual nature)
* Sexual misconduct and/or any state of undress
* Threat to do bodily harm
* Vandalism (plus financial restitution)

30 Reprimands + $150 Fine

(regardless of previously paid fines) + 30 hours Disciplinary Community Service + possible Administrative Withdrawal and/or possible 100% Scholarship Reduction. NOTE: For each accumulation of six (6) or more reprimands after 30, an additional $150 fine will be assessed.


* Abortion
* Academic dishonesty
* Assault/sexual assault (minimum two (2) semesters out)
* Commission/conviction of any felony
* Failure of three (3) Christian/Community Services without reconciliation
* Illegal drugs-association/possession, use/distribution (minimum two semesters out)
* Immorality
* Involvement with witchcraft, séances or other satanic or demonic activity
* Life-threatening behavior or language to others or oneself (immediate removal/exclusion from campus and a minimum of two semesters out)
* Non-participation/disruption/non-compliance (possible removal/exclusion from campus)
* Possession or consumption of alcoholic beverages
* Refusal to submit to an Alco-Sensor test and/or drug test
* Spending the night with a person of the opposite sex
* Stealing or possession of stolen property (plus financial restitution; minimum two semesters out)
* Two or more individuals of the opposite sex together in motel room
* Unauthorized possession/use of weapons

http://www.liberty.edu/StudentAffair...x.cfm?PID=1378

noahfor 04-06-2004 02:18 PM

Ha, yea I saw the same thing on another message board, boysetsfire. Sounds fun.

User Name 04-06-2004 02:25 PM

The only people who go there are probably fundamentalist Christians, so they're ready to abide by the rules. So what's the big deal?

Sparhawk 04-06-2004 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by User Name
The only people who go there are probably fundamentalist Christians, so they're ready to abide by the rules. So what's the big deal?
I think it's more the irony of calling themselves Liberty University. As opposed to Old Stickinthemud College.

mingusfingers 04-06-2004 02:38 PM

I'm with user name. You still choose to go there, not mandatory. Unless parents are a factor.

VitaminH 04-06-2004 02:43 PM

I've heard of some other colleges like that round chicago in the burbs. I've got a friend who goes to one very much like that and when she was telling me about the rules there I about hit the floor, because it was NOTHING like my experience here at good old <generic state funded school>.

CinnamonGirl 04-06-2004 02:44 PM

Entering the space above the ceiling tiles?? :lol:

I also found it rather amusing that "entering a residence hall of the opposite sex" carries the same punishment as falsifying documents...

World's King 04-06-2004 02:45 PM

I like how abortion and drinking alcohol are the same level. That's like saying eating a cheeseburger and homocide are on the same level.

BuddyHawks 04-06-2004 03:27 PM

rated R movies, gezz

Skettios 04-06-2004 03:32 PM

My cousin went to Bethel University for awhile. Seems like the rules are very similar.

I don't know why anyone would want to put themselves through that kind of existence, but I would be willing to bet they get pretty good grades.

Aletheia 04-06-2004 03:57 PM

I don't see what the big deal is. A private college has a right to make rules for their school, no matter how stupid others might see them as (unless those rules are illegal). If people choose to go there, then they should know what rules they are expected to follow.

JStrider 04-06-2004 04:08 PM

posted that in a different thread a while back...

geez i cant understand how someone could actually want to go there... but whatever.... i dont have to so its all good

Destrox 04-06-2004 04:22 PM

What a shit hole.

Tempboy 04-06-2004 04:32 PM

Bahahah fundies!

Pragma 04-06-2004 04:40 PM

I would love to go to that university for the sole purpose of breaking as many rules as possible and making the lives of the administrators a living hell. :D

Halx 04-06-2004 04:50 PM

That's exactly what I was thinking Pragma. Think of all the sexually repressed chicks you'd attract.

Spartak 04-06-2004 05:17 PM

Intersting, the rules say nothing about homosexuality, and since entering a hall of the same sex is not forbidden, it creates a rather interesting situation.

Halx 04-06-2004 05:19 PM

Yeah I showed this to a friend and she said that they seemed to actually be promoting homosexuality

bernadette 04-06-2004 05:21 PM

Quote:

* Obscene, profane or abusive language or behavior
hell... i'd be fuckin kicked outta there so fast after less than half of a one mutha fuckin day...

*finds #&$% bar of soap*
*tosses #&$% bar of soap @ closed minded institution*

Cynthetiq 04-06-2004 05:23 PM

Interesting the closed mindedness some people who have posted on this thread as such.

For people who claim that people should be tolerant of other's sexuality and choices, one isn't so tolerant of the opposite end of the spectrum.

IMHO those of who have spoken out as such are equal to those BDSM folks claim that people aren't accepting of their lifestyle only to look down on vanilla sex people themselves.

sailor 04-06-2004 05:32 PM

Yeah, those rules suck. No, I couldnt handle them.

But at the same time, its a personal choice to go there. If you are going to do so, you are going to have to accept those rules. And from the looks of it, the people going there wouldnt have any problem with those rules.

Kaos 04-06-2004 06:14 PM

Jeez...Basic Training sounds like a pleasure cruise compared to that school.

I wouldn't last an hour in that school and I would be owing thousands of $$$ in fines.

Lebell 04-06-2004 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spartak
Intersting, the rules say nothing about homosexuality, and since entering a hall of the same sex is not forbidden, it creates a rather interesting situation.

They have the catch-all "Immorality", which I am sure covers any and all things that aren't specifically mentioned but discouraged nonetheless.


I also noted the irony of the name, "Liberty University".

Liberty to do what, give up your Liberty by attending?

iccky 04-06-2004 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mingusfingers
I'm with user name. You still choose to go there, not mandatory. Unless parents are a factor.
I imagine parents are often a factor.

Nefir 04-06-2004 07:41 PM

Heh, well, apparently there's a niche market that is keeping them in business - after all, if there was nobody to attend, they would cease to exist.

You are all making this seem so negative. Think of it in a positive light - isn't it great that all those potentially dangerous bible-thumping fundamentalist nut-jobs are safely locked away in Liberty University, instead of walking the streets denouncing our sinful and decadent lifestyles?

Aah, good old Libery University - keeping society free from religious fanatics... at least until they graduate.

qtpye4u84 04-06-2004 07:49 PM

LOl thats why you live off school grounds. But it seems to me that this school is this way because its like a church school or a religious school.
Haha If i went to that school I would get kicked out I work night shift, I work at a casino and I gamble for fun like maybe once every 2 months when my mom goes to the casino to see me she will wait untill i get of then give me money to play with her so its not my money I play with or lose lol.

djtestudo 04-06-2004 07:52 PM

I would like to say two things.

It is a choice for whomever decides to attend that school, and if they believe that the list of rules is acceptable, then I respect their choice.

I would never, ever, ever, ever go there myself. Makes me want to set up a large screen just off-campus facing the residence halls, hook up the most powerful speakers I can find, and play A Clockwork Orange ALL NIGHT LONG. :D

My cousin went to a Baptist college in Past-the-middle-of-nowhere, Missouri, a couple years ago, and they had similar rules. She voluntarally left after about a year and a half.

MSD 04-06-2004 07:53 PM

It's run by Jerry Falwell. Any questions?

Quote:

Originally posted by iccky
I imagine parents are often a factor.
I'd imagine they're the only factor.

Yakk 04-06-2004 08:03 PM

The purpose of the rules is probably to discourage people who wouldn't want to follow the rules from attending.

Those who would like such an environment will be heartened by the rules, they can avoid the temptation that would exist at other institutes of higher learning.

And, they get an education.

So, really, places like this are a good thing.

It still doesn't mean I won't make fun of them. =)

Quote:

The Cinnamon Cheet typed:
Entering the space above the ceiling tiles??
Heh, classic source of prankage.

In most institutional buildings, the walls don't pass the ceiling tiles. So, you can slip up above them, and get into adjacent offices, in order to pull off pranks.

This rule was probably added to discourage such pranks, or even pre-exploration to attempt such pranks. =)

StormBerlin 04-07-2004 07:37 AM

Holy bejeesus. $150 fine for getting an abortion? Still better than having to raise a kid I can't support...
So yeah, that sounds like a fun school :)

Averett 04-07-2004 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by User Name
The only people who go there are probably fundamentalist Christians, so they're ready to abide by the rules. So what's the big deal?
Not true... A good friend from college went there. For 2 weeks. He got a basketball scholorship from there, and since his family couldn't afford to put him through school he decided that he should go there and make the best of it. Needless to say he chose to split after two weeks and go to college in his hometown. Of course he's now in debt up to his ears....

mattevil 04-07-2004 08:28 AM

what else would you expect from a college in a town in the south called Lynchburg and is run by jerry falwell? I live in salem not too far away from there and most of the people i know that come from there are just ...strange(i'm putting it nicely).
I really have a grudge against Fallwell.
I actually had a friend who had lost a leg recently and was actually publically mocked by Falwell and his cohorts at another table for her misfortune, the kicker was they had been praying the last 4 or so sundays in his church for her.

guthmund 04-07-2004 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cynthetiq
Interesting the closed mindedness some people who have posted on this thread as such.

For people who claim that people should be tolerant of other's sexuality and choices, one isn't so tolerant of the opposite end of the spectrum.

I think that it was sad that it took so long for that to be pointed out.

It's only ironic depending on your perception of what "liberty" means. It's ironic for me, because my perception of "liberty" isn't contained in those rules, but for others maybe these rules allow them to be themselves without the pressure of fitting in or apologizing for choosing not to drink, have sex, et cetera....

Actually there are quite a few good ones there. I don't like it, but smarmy jokes only hurt my argument in the long run.

flamingdog 04-07-2004 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by StormBerlin
Holy bejeesus. $150 fine for getting an abortion? Still better than having to raise a kid I can't support...
So yeah, that sounds like a fun school :)

Of course you're forgetting the fine you'd pick up for getting pregnant in the first place.

BTW, I think discussions on this board would get real boring real quick if we all just said 'hey, well that might be good for you, but it doesn't work for me'.

SabrinaFair 04-07-2004 10:21 AM

Jesus Christ...(no pun intended)
I'm glad I'm going to a public university...I dare my school to tell me I can't have a drink or go dancing. I hate when institutions of learning act in loco parentis.

Tirian 04-07-2004 01:21 PM

It's just like any other organization....they can set their rules, you can choose to join or not....

examples.

Yacht Club - http://www.dlyc.com/rules.html
Tennis Club - http://www.iiasa.ac.at/~marek/tennis/Docs/rules_e.html
Golf - http://www.goldcreek.com/golfrules.htm

Same thing imho. Choice is up to the consumer.

moonstrucksoul 04-07-2004 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sparhawk
I think it's more the irony of calling themselves Liberty University. As opposed to Old Stickinthemud College.
that's not irony, that's freedom. they are at liberty to call themselves whatever they want :)

mattevil 04-07-2004 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by moonstrucksoul
that's not irony, that's freedom. they are at liberty to call themselves whatever they want :)
Couldn't you get the BBB after them for false advertising though? Sorta like painless dentistry i guess(painless was the doctors name)

orphen 04-07-2004 05:48 PM

that's horrible. i always believed that the fundemental notion of education is based on the respect for knowledge thusly a respect for ideas. and as a platotist, in epistomology at least, the development of ideas require the freedom to experience things such as the opposite sex either physically or at a emotional level. By restricting these freedoms, i think the college is also restricting their students' ability to learn.

moonstrucksoul 04-07-2004 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mattevil
Couldn't you get the BBB after them for false advertising though? Sorta like painless dentistry i guess(painless was the doctors name)
shit, give me a lungful of nitrous and some vicodin, and oh yeah, it's painless.:)

djtestudo 04-07-2004 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by orphen
that's horrible. i always believed that the fundemental notion of education is based on the respect for knowledge thusly a respect for ideas. and as a platotist, in epistomology at least, the development of ideas require the freedom to experience things such as the opposite sex either physically or at a emotional level. By restricting these freedoms, i think the college is also restricting their students' ability to learn.
That could be true, but many people do believe that those things are more distractions then an essential part of learning. I know several guys that went to all-boys Catholic high school, and I'm sure all of them would say that they were less distracted at that time then they are now. Whether that is true or not depends on the person.

orphen 04-07-2004 07:28 PM

yes, that's a high school though. thing is, depends what you are learning. ok, memorize all the trig identity.. give a 5 year old enough time he/she could do it. i mean, what do you do in college? write a book reports in the sense of summary because you don't understand how the male characters feel in his struggle deciding between physical and emotional relationship? i am under the assumption this is an liberal arts university, and if it is, for you to understand liberal arts, you need to experience life wheather it's "morally correct" or not. To write about tragidy you need to experience it, you write about lows and highs, you have to experience it. To explain emotions of human interactions, you might need to meet a girl and find out how it feels to have a broken heart. these are just some examples (pretty bad ones actually.. but o' well) If you ever read Charles Dicken's Hard Time, you can see how emotional restriction on people can be devastating to their develpment to a full person and intellectually. of course that's an extreme example, but the intention of Dicken's novel was to display the danger of quantatitve ultitarianism or strict Kantian education, which in a sense are reflected by some of the rules there.


that's my 2 cents~ if you like living by strict moral standards and not experience both logical and emotional or perhaps, physical and spiritual, facets of life, fine~ go and attend this college which supposely promote "liberty"...

MSD 04-08-2004 06:45 AM

It isn't a Liberal Arts school, it's a private university run by Christian fundamentalists.

CinnamonGirl 04-08-2004 08:35 AM

I have a few friends who attend the Cincinnati Bible College...I tried to find an online handbook, with no success. I wonder if it's as strict? While the friends that go there are very religious (obviosuly), they're also a little...hmmm...I was going to say wild, but that doesn't really fit. Let's just say "less tame" than the Liberty rules would imply.

Definitely going to ask to see the handbook when I get home.

ariekitten 04-08-2004 09:27 AM

GD i can't imagine anyone who'd be crazy enough to voluntarily go to that school! but that statement is sounding a little prejudiced of me i guess. whatever floats their boat, but please leave me out of it!
:p
i'm glad my parents didn't try to send me to some overly religious school....i'd prolly be expelled for bad conduct if so.

Astrocloud 04-08-2004 08:20 PM

Supposedly the editor of landover baptist ( a baptist parody site) was kicked out of Liberty University.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/


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